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Giteau facing suspension

2010-04-27 12:05

Sydney - Brumbies playmaker Matt Giteau is facing suspension and a hefty fine for criticising referee Steve Walsh in the wake of his side's crucial Super 14 loss to the Waratahs.

The Brumbies are still fuming over a decision by Walsh to disallow a try in their 19-12 loss in Sydney at the weekend and are pushing for him to be stood down from this weekend's roster.

Walsh is also scheduled to take charge of the Brumbies' clash with the Reds in Canberra on Saturday which the Brumbies side must win if they are to have any hope of making the finals.

It is believed the Brumbies have appealed to SANZAR referees boss Lyndon Bray to drop Walsh for the match but an announcement will not be made until Wednesday at the earliest.

However, it is Giteau that could miss the next match after slamming Walsh's performance and suggesting there would be no point in turning up against the Reds if the referee was not stood down.

The Australian Rugby Union on Tuesday referred Giteau's comments to the SANZAR secretariat in New Zealand for determination on whether he may have breached the players' code of conduct.

If he has Giteau will likely face a judiciary hearing on Thursday.

There is a clause in players' contracts that they are not to publicly criticise a referee or touch judge's handling of a match.

Unlike the NRL, there are no prescribed punishments for breaches of the code of conduct, but there are examples of similar criticism of referees having been heavily punished in the past.

Former Reds coach Eddie Jones was fined $10 000 for criticising referee Matt Goddard after a loss to the Brumbies at Suncorp Stadium in 2007.

SANZAR has a zero tolerance policy in terms of criticism of referees and indicated at the time that Jones faced a hefty fine and/or a suspension from coaching.

"I don't know if we will turn up," Giteau said on Monday when asked about how the Brumbies would react if Walsh was not dropped for this weekend.

"What's the point?"

"Like everyone who knows rugby, that was a try," he went on to say when asked about a decision by Walsh to disallow a five-pointer to Brumbies fullback Adam Ashley-Cooper.

The Brumbies are unlikely to know whether Walsh will remain in charge of the crucial fixture until Wednesday at the earliest.

The time difference between South Africa and Australia means a phone hook-up between SANZAR officials to confirm referee appointments for this weekend was not due to take place until Tuesday evening (AEST).

Bray is likely to announce whether Walsh has been dropped on Wednesday, but it could be as late as Thursday before appointments are confirmed.

It is understood the Brumbies submitted a scathing post-match report of Walsh's performance at ANZ Stadium on Saturday night where they were unhappy with numerous areas, including the disallowed try.

Brumbies coach Andy Friend did not front the media on Tuesday after voicing his frustration earlier in the week.

"That's up to the selectors to give their view and we can only deal with what we see and I thought the first 30 minutes it wasn't a very even contest," he said on Monday.

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Comments
  • Emile - 2010-04-27 12:30

    Let's see what happens to the Aussie Golden Boy. If I recall correctly, nothing happened to him in last year's Perth Test when he almost took off some Springbok's head in a tackle. Not a sighting, nothing. My money is on no action again him or at best a soft slap on the fingers.

  • Michael Bowery - 2010-04-27 12:36

    Referees like players are not immune to temptation when the money is big enough. Don't worry about the tv replays look to who's doing the betting.

  • Gavin - 2010-04-27 12:36

    I was at this game in Perth, It was one way traffic to the brumbies during the first half, Second half the force were in the groove with there fans. thank god i was so far a way to watch my side the Lions mmmmmmmmmmm maybe next year is Julias Malima carries on ill have no option but to become a member of the force fan club

  • Graham - 2010-04-27 12:43

    Steve Walsh has been an absolute disgrace as a referee for some years now but when South African sides complained in the past we are told that we were bad losers particularly by Aussie supporters. Let us see now whether anything will be done because it is an Australian side which has complained.

  • sharkbait - 2010-04-27 12:59

    I'm sorry, but as much as I can't stand Giteau, in this instance he is correct. Walsh has never been a great ref. Why can't players criticize refs? The way a ref handles a game has a massive influence on the game, player’s careers etc. They should be put under the heaviest scrutiny available, and the players should be able to have their say. This boils down to the IRB not taking a more proactive role in disciplining poor refereeing. It was only a matter of time before the players reacted. The NZ, Aus and SA players association should stand behind him. After all... he is telling the truth.

  • if memory serves - 2010-04-27 13:09

    Isn't Matt Giteau the THUG who late tackeled a SA player a few years ago and got away with it scott free? Blatant elbow in the face, not even trying to go for the ball. I hope they fine him and ban him! Good ridance. They have alwys been biased and their refs have been biased and nowit perceived to be the other way around, they kick up a bick stink. Shame. I really feel sorry for them... NOT!!!!

  • if memory serves - 2010-04-27 13:14

    Isn't Matt Giteau the THUG who late tackeled a SA player a few years ago and got away with it scott free? Blatant elbow in the face, not even trying to go for the ball. I hope they fine him and ban him! Good ridance. They have alwys been biased and their refs have been biased and nowit perceived to be the other way around, they kick up a bick stink. Shame. I really feel sorry for them... NOT!!!!

  • Giteau out of line - 2010-04-27 13:23

    I can’t stand most of the referees but what Giteau did was unasked for and he should have known better before he made the comment. For years referees like Dickenson, Jonker, Roos, to mention a few irritates the living sh@t out of most of us. We can criticize them because firstly we don’t play the game and secondly nobody gives a sh@t what we think anyway! What about the call against the Crusaders when the Force player scored after a 3 metre forward pass (that pass was proofed to be 3 metres forward!) That might cost the Saders a semi-final spot and definitely shelved any chance of a home semi spot. Although Jonker’s calls didn’t have any influence on the outcome of the Lions/Bulls game it did help a lot with the Bulls points’ difference. It is absolutely bullsh@t that for example Kaplan referees a game between for example the Force and a SA team. The referee association is looking for k**!

  • chimsoro - 2010-04-27 13:42

    have been saying since mr dishonest Andre watson came on the scene that refs are susceptable to monetary influence, Ok making some mistakes now and again...they are 3 metres from the incident at the most and can see exactly what happened...but when some decisions are called these days lets not fool ourselves...they overlook infringemnets, give penaties in kickable places..the list goes on. forward passes that lead to tries and I can tell you the worst offenders are the BULLS...I have no doubt in my m,ind that they bribe the refs with what they get away with and the ref allows...Walsh allowed a knock on, forward pass to allow the bulls the S14 title after full time...and many infringements before that blatant oversight...so now the other teams are noticing his been taking the pretoria salute they are also chirping... viva an investigation into corrupt refs. or the game will eventually dies off through disinterest.

  • les - 2010-04-27 14:09

    It is unfortunate that referees have for a long time being the spoilers of rugby matches by awarding questionable decision. I don't know whether this is delibarate or not but it is very sad to see teams that have painstakingly prepared for games being short changed by "the man in the middle".

  • BALSAK(alias BBH) - 2010-04-27 14:30

    I disagree with Matt Giteau, Steve Wals is one of the BEST referees that I have seen over the years. I've seen GOOD referees come and gone over the last 35 years(steve strydom, freek burger, paddy o' brein, jonathan kaplan, colin hawk etc..etc) and Steve Walsh is UP there with the BEST referees that I have seen in my LIFE time !! Viva STEVE WALSH!!!

  • lobo - 2010-04-27 14:52

    @Gavin - The Brumbies played the Waratahs not the Force, and the game was in Sydney not Perth.

  • LK - 2010-04-27 14:55

    Maybe it is time the players have to take the refs on themselves. There have been far too many so-called 'unseen' incidents by the refs....let alone the side-lines. Matt was correct in what he said and I take my hat off to him! I wish I had taken written notes of the many errors made by the refs this season....it is unacceptable. They are being paid....and ultimately it comes out of our (spectators) pockets...and perhaps there should be a passage for us (the spectators) to channel our thoughts and complaints through for the 'powers that be' to hear. Surely the 'powers that be' are not blind to what is happening out there....do they not watch the games...albeit even on TV? Why is there not a fining system in place for the refs as there is for the players? This is a serious matter....and we should not let it go by as another bad decision by a ref. I watched the game on TV and couldn't believe what the ref did. Come on everyone....we have to somehow ensure these bad ref decisions are stopped....otherwise let it hurt them (the refs) where it hurts the most....their pockets!

  • Brian - 2010-04-27 15:13

    The aussies bleat like sheep ......real chops.(. sorry toyota ) and about time they got the sharp edge of the wedge from a ref instead of the SA teams. Giteau is a typical example of the bleating Aussie and they dare to critisize the poms for whinging !

  • chimsoro - 2010-04-27 15:16

    Balsak...you are obviously a Bulls supporter ne ??? of course he is great when he makes sure you win every game,,and you don't even know he is manipulating the game...sies on jou..

  • @ michael bowery - 2010-04-27 16:38

    Check this out Mike http://blogs.sport24.co.za/optipessimist/its-a-fix-or-is-it

  • Lion@Chimsoro - 2010-04-27 16:38

    O jy is n dom p0es. Jy en BBH hoort saam!! Jou cretin! Ek kry so lekker waneer d00se soos jy op jou eie ballas trap! whahahaha. Hoekom gaan jy nie n bietjie Loftus toe met jou grrot bek? Ek sal graag kyk hoe daai boepens oomies die k@k uit jou en jou tjommie skop. Jy weet wat n tjommie is ne?

  • BALSAK(alias BBH) - 2010-04-27 16:55

    @Chimsoro(4/27/2010-3:16 pm) I am a PROUD WP and STORMERS supporter!! When I've started to support WP rugby you were probably stil in SUB A??? My ander skuil naam is nie verniet Blou Bul Hater(BBH)!!!

  • Birdman - 2010-04-27 17:38

    I've been saying this for years! The standard of the refs' cheating is getting better & better as the years go by. After the poor reffing decisions at the start of this year's S14 has left the Sharks floundering in 10th spot. They're not even in contention this year - all of a sudden a top franchise becomes crap overnight? It's not the players, it's the refs and they get away with it all the time. Instead of the TV ref overturning decisions that are glaring to say the least - they let it go. So what's the point of having the technology when you don't use it? I've cancelled my Sharks season tickets (saved a fortune) and haven't watched any more games. What's the point - it's no contest. After Giteau's pronouncement, all refs will now be gunning for the Brumbies - they won't win another match! Besides, it was poor reffing that left Giteau on the field of play after "that high tackle". Yes he was at fault, but the ref even more so for not red carding him there and then. So you really can't blame him for the final outcome. Our game has been taken over by "officials" long ago and we think we are powerless to anything about it - I have, I'm staying away!

  • BLOUBUL - 2010-04-27 18:17

    walsh is still drunk

  • Robin Hood - 2010-04-27 20:19

    Surely Giteau realizes that the Reds and Tahs needed help from the likes of SW to ensure a semi final place for Aussie teams. Giteau should not rock the boat. Of course maybe he figures his own suspension will serve the same purpose - help the Reds get the points they need to finish above the Stormers. Don't you just hate it when a (Aussie) plan comes together.

  • @Michael Bowery - 2010-04-27 21:01

    Check out this link Mike http://blogs.sport24.co.za/optipessimist/its-a-fix-or-is-it

  • DOH! - 2010-04-28 00:51

    @ Chimsoro - Balsak is a bull hater, so what's your point? you idiot

  • Tommygun - 2010-04-28 01:36

    Balsak! I think you should have your eyes checked.

  • Anton - 2010-04-28 06:48

    I watched the game and SW was penalising the Brumbies for everything. It was 16 against 15 on Saturday and I feel for the Brumbies, as all you look for in consistancy from the ref.

  • Alweer - 2010-04-28 07:59

    Just a nother bad call we have seen this all season why now all of a sudden the big who haha They should take there match fees when making bad calls like that but on the other hand every body can make mistakes

  • Deon - 2010-04-28 08:27

    Refs should be assesed after every game. Look at Mark Lawrence the past weekend when Johan Muller was invloved in foul play twice. If he was wearing a Bulls or Stormer jersey he would have been sited and suspended for at least 2 weeks. How can the Sharks say Lawrence is unfair to them?

  • Emile - 2010-04-28 08:46

    Serves him right. Pathetic attitude to go at a Ref in public. Wonder what this little fag would have done if a Ref took some cheap low shots at him in public. I hope he receives a long suspension and massive fine. How the hell could he have thought that try was legal. I knew it was not a try the moment it happened. Maybe the Aussie players should start reading the rules are they are and not always trying to bend the rules.

  • Emile@ chimsoro - 2010-04-28 08:54

    Personally I think you are a bit mind-"less". Pathetic little you. Just go away....

  • Radie - 2010-04-28 09:18

    Giteau needs a " WARM KLAP!" Remember when he refused to hold the Mandela cup.....He thinks he is such an awesome player that rugby can't do without. I would like to twist his little neck off!

  • Emile@ Anton - 2010-04-28 09:32

    I agree, the ref blowed them for everything - because they did everything wrong! You can bend the rules only that far.

  • Vaste 6 - 2010-04-28 09:42

    @ Birdman: I agree with you and I watched the game. Gitaue is 100% right although he should have handled it better. I was amazed to see how many penalties was awarded in front of the posts, absolutely amazing. The Sharks is also way down on the log due to biast reffereing or should I say match fixing. If this practice doesn't stop, rugby will die a sudden death. I cannot waste my time watching fixed game after fixed game. It is also very suspect to see how many SA refs blew the Bulls games ?? I think the Bulls are good enough to make the semies without this kind of dispute. Hopefully this incident will put more presure on the issue.

  • King G - 2010-04-28 10:03

    Curiously enough, it was also against the Waratahs that the Sharks were robbed by the ref (Paul Marks) in week 4, and again the Waratahs squeaked over the line in Week 6 against the Force in Perth when the ref (Jaco Pyper) had a very questionable game. Even the Reds suffered an injury-time defeat to the Tah's. So what am i suggesting? Some kind of conspiracy about deep powder-blue pockets? Not really, but you have to admit that the success of the Sydney side so far in this years competition has been due to some ridiculously 'lucky' circumstances.

  • am - 2010-04-28 10:14

    goodness us saffricans can whine and moan. Talking of thugs, look no further than bakkies botha, of cr*p refs - watson, tappe, roos. Nuff said.

  • Oraclebob - 2010-04-28 10:16

    Curiously enough, it was also against the Waratahs that the Sharks were robbed by the ref (Paul Marks) in week 4, and again the Waratahs squeaked over the line in Week 6 against the Force in Perth when the ref (Jaco Pyper) had a very questionable game. Even the Reds suffered an injury-time defeat to the Tah's. So what am i suggesting? Some kind of conspiracy about deep powder-blue pockets? Not really, but you have to admit that the success of the Sydney side so far in this years competition has been due to some ridiculously 'lucky' circumstances.

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