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SARU puts foot down

2012-06-07 14:15

Johannesburg - SARU has promulgated a new regulation to ensure that the contracting of promising schoolboy rugby players is done above board, according to a report on the SuperSport website.

From now on, if a union wishes to contract a schoolboy rugby player, it will first have to inform the boy's home union, being the union in which the schoolboy plays his rugby, with the proviso that the schoolboy is willing to negotiate with his home union.

The object is to give the home union a chance to offer the boy a competitive contract.

Unions are allowed to contract players only when they are over the age of 18 but they are allowed to offer academic bursaries to boys between the ages of 16 and 18.

SARU has also decided that recruiting of players at national rugby weeks, including Craven Week, are forbidden. No person, union or agent is allowed to make any offer to schoolboy players during the week of the tournament.

This clearly does not apply to the many other tournaments before the national weeks which have been fruitful recruiting ground for gathering young players, even those still at school and who are then transported to northern climes.

The southern unions have been especially fruitful for northern unions in search of black and coloured players.

SuperSport

Comments
  • vdwjasper - 2012-06-07 14:28

    Lol. "to northern climes..." Blouland moet mos sy staal invoer.

      vdwjasper - 2012-06-07 14:56

      Gou gaan opsoek: Daar is net 5 spelers van Saterdag se Bloubulspan wat in werklikheid van die ou "Transvaal" area (nie Noord Transvaal nie - die hele Tansvaal) afkomstig is: Spies, Flip, Werner Kruger, Chiliboy en Dean Greyling. Lyk my al die manne met die breins. As julle myn nie glo nie, soek op. En o-ja; Dean Greyling se eerste naam is Mcguyver (?!?). Die ander, nl. Juandre Kruger (Kaapstad), Dewald Potgieter (PE), CJ Stander (George), Francois Hougaard (Paarl), Morne Steyn (Kaapstad), Bjorn Basson (King Williams Town), Wynand Olivier (Welkom, maar julle kan hom maar kry), JJ Engelbracht (PE), Akona Ndungani (Umtata) en Zane Kirchner (George) is loep haal.

      Juan - 2012-06-07 15:15

      @Jaz. Please bring us stats like this out on the other teams. Not sure what the problem is here...this is professionalism. Look at American football, soccer, etc. You must remember that the local union will now know that the other unions are after the players, but wont necassary have the money to give a better offer.

      Nic - 2012-06-07 15:20

      Jaz leef nog in die 80's, nes sy span. Sal ons praat oor die WP se gekoopte staal, selfs van Kanada...

      James - 2012-06-07 15:25

      Oh? En die WP voer ook nie spelers in nie? Hulle voer die spelers al sommer van oorsee af in. Hiers 'n lys van julle spelers wat nie in die WP gebore is nie: (Speler, Plek van Geboorte, Skool/Club) Brok Harris (Roodepoort, Villagers) Tiaan Liebengberg (Kimberley, Grey College) Duane Vermeulen (Nelspruit) Peter Grant (Durban, Maritzburg) Bryan Habana (Johannesburg, King Edward) Deon Fourie (Pretoria, Pietersburg) Siya Kolisi (Eastern Cape, Grey High) Joe Pietersen (Vryheid, Grey College) Gerhard van den Heever (Bloemfontein, Affies) Jebb Sinclair (Canada)

      MaakdieBulle - 2012-06-07 15:35

      Hier is nog 2 gekoopte wp manne Gary van Aswegin Standerton High School Scarra Ntuben East London

      Stormkaap - 2012-06-07 15:35

      James, is enige van spelers wat jy noem ''schoolboys'' en o/18.. of kan jy nie lees nie

      James - 2012-06-07 15:39

      @Stormkaap - Ek praat met Jaz... Kan jy lees? Of maak jy net aspris 'n gat van jouself?

      MaakdieBulle - 2012-06-07 15:56

      @James,daar is 'n kortsluiting tussen sy brein en sy oë.

      Stirrer - 2012-06-07 15:57

      Waar bly die Bulle en Cheetahs spelers as hulle op Nuweland speel? By hulle ouers.

      vdwjasper - 2012-06-07 16:04

      Ja James in WP se beginspan Saterdag was 8 spelers WP manne: Aplon (Hawston), Juan d J (Paarl), Jean de Villiers (Paarl), Dewald Duvehage (Belville), Rynard Elstadt (Montagu), Eben Etzebeth (Kaapstad), Frans Malherbe (Somerset Wes) en Deon Carstens (Kaapstad). Drie ander darem uit die groter Kaapprovinsie (Liebenberg, Steenkamp en Kolisi) en slegs vier van buite die Kaap. (teenoor slegs 'n derde van die Bulle se span wat van die Transvaal af kom - meeste van hulle kom ook nog uit die Kaap.

      James - 2012-06-07 16:09

      @Jaz - Ek stry nie daaroor nie. Ek probeer maar net sê dat elke unie spelers "koop" en niemand is onskuldig nie. Alhoewel die Cheetahs die swaarste kry. Hulle het al BAIE top-spelers verloor as gevolg van die kopery.

      vdwjasper - 2012-06-07 16:15

      ...en as jy nou rerig wil gaan verder krap, kyk bietjie na Saterdag se reserwes. Vermaak, Wepener, Rayno Gerber, Wilhelm Steenkamp, Francois Venter..Waar kom hulle vandaan? Om nie eers te praat van Sadie, Jacques Potgieter en daai flankie van Middelburg in die Ooskaap (kan nooit sy naam onthou nie). Waar kom hulle vandaan? Eish.

      René - 2012-06-07 16:18

      Aah nonsense Jaz, all those players were conceived in Pretoria!!! Prove me wrong, please...

      René - 2012-06-07 16:20

      @James, don't forget Quinn Roux - Affies

      vdwjasper - 2012-06-07 16:27

      Quin wie? Conceived wat? Jy weet wat se hulle: "Oumense, vroumense, bloumense, kinners..." Loep brei daar 'n pienk dingetjie vir jou man vir Saterdag en los die rugby vir die manne.

      René - 2012-06-07 16:39

      Nee Jazzie, ou mense, 'DOM MENSE', en kinders - jy kan kies in watter kategorie jy val! Enigeen sal jou perfek pas, no probs!!

      vdwjasper - 2012-06-07 16:40

      Skuus, hoe kan ek nou die world beaters in v Aswegen, Brache en Groom vergeet... en Elstadt is van Montagu, annekant Robertson - wynland. Steenkamp van Williston - dorperland (alles wyd duskant die Oranje)

      René - 2012-06-07 16:40

      @Jazzie, Quinn Roux het vir jou spannetjie gespeel Saterdag - watse tipe supporter is jy dan?

      djeloff - 2012-06-07 19:27

      Asb, ons is lank al verby die fase van ou rugby waar mens speel waar jy groot geword het. Dis hierdie manne se brood en botter, hulle skuif van plekke net soos mense agter werk aan trek. Dis moderne rugby, raak gewoont daaraan.

      Dustin - 2012-06-08 09:46

      No one can point a finger at the Bulls Union for doing something every other union has done and still does. If you want to be the best union you try and get the best players no matter where they were born or went to school. That is the way sport today operates whether it is rugby, soccer or any their sport. Accept it and get over it. But if you still want to be angry then be angry at your so called home grown players who deserted you or even more to the point be angry at your own precious union who when they could have had the players wanted nothing to do with them.

  • Bootman - 2012-06-07 14:46

    Good call SARU. Hope this will put an end to the Human Trafficing the Bulls are guilty of.

      Bootman - 2012-06-07 15:42

      Raven the Blue Bulls Rugby Union is the paedophile of SA rugby. They lure little boys with all sorts of goodies, have their way with them and cast them out.

      Bootman - 2012-06-07 16:25

      Na Raven. I don't visit the Stormers website. I prefer a good laugh so I visit the Bulls website regularly.

      sean.brady.14224 - 2012-06-07 17:52

      Won't make a difference, once the players are 18 these rules don't apply. Besides which school did Habana go to again :D.

      Cliff - 2012-06-08 13:41

      Schalk may have been born in PE but he grew up in WP and started playing there like his old man !!!

  • ljmostert - 2012-06-07 14:58

    Yes, yes, yes!!!!! Blue Bulls must develop their own players of colour and stop plunder the boys from WP, bvoland and SWD! High time!!

      Juan - 2012-06-07 15:17

      Like Chilliboy?

      Juan - 2012-06-07 15:20

      Imagine how little players of colour WP/Stormers will have without the Boland/SWD/EP players? Imagine how little players of colour the Sharks will have without the Border & Free State players? Imagine how little players of colour the Cheetahs will have without the Griekwas players?

      marko.miladinovic.52 - 2012-06-08 09:46

      Yes yes yes, you idiot! High time you take off your blinkers.

  • bill.vanzyl - 2012-06-07 15:03

    Everybody is having a go at the Bulls. Check the Sharks list of contracted layers, and their academy.... And I am not a Bulls supporter!

  • Sonnyjakes - 2012-06-07 15:08

    Firstly sport has become business! Therefore every man has his price? You are all so provincial but these guys are actually just mercenaries? What about Sharks and all Bloem born players? John smit originally from Pta?

      Cliff - 2012-06-08 13:37

      Do you know where all the shark players sleep over wheb they play in Bloem , At their parents house !!!

  • Henk - 2012-06-07 15:08

    what a bunch of joker!!!! according to our lands constitution, it is my right to work for who and where ever I want to work. Thus, if I am in a mpumalanga school and the Sharks offer me a contract or I approach the Sharks or who ever, SARU and its pathetic rules can go to hell!! NO COURT WILL ALLOW OR ACCEPT THIS RULING OF SARU!!!! Rather they start looking after the smaller unions and enable these unions to offer proper contracts to young players and rather SARU see to it that unions such as the Pumas, Eastern Cape etc can host big matches and test and stop centralise everything around the big unions than wating time with jokes like this ruling by them. Then rugby in the country WILL develop and rugby in the country WILL get more competitive than what it is!

      ljmostert - 2012-06-07 15:31

      You completely missing the point - Unions must develop THEIR OWN PLAYERS OF COLOUR - dis tog obvious waaroor dit gaan! Dit gaan oor ontwikkeling van rugby en almal behoort akkoord te gaan daarmee - ons weet tog watter unies maak hulle skuldig hieraan!!

      Stormkaap - 2012-06-07 15:37

      Remeber Henk what minimum age is in terms of the law says about employment..

      Bootman - 2012-06-07 16:28

      Stormkaap the Bulls are nothing but a bunch of criminals. Child-labour and human trafficking. If you count Spies and Meisie..................then prostitution as well.

      sean.brady.14224 - 2012-06-07 17:55

      It doesn't say anywhere that Unions must develop their own players of colour. It says that until a player turns 18 a Union may only approach him through his home Union. So this ruling is ridiculous, these players are 18 before they finish school. @Henk You are absolutely correct. How can SARU stop a player from earning a living where ever they wish. If my son plays rugby and I want to move from Jo'burg to Durban he needs to ask Gauteng if he can play for the Sharks. This will never stand up in court! I think this may be a weak ploy to stop Unions poaching youngsters from the Kings?

  • ljmostert - 2012-06-07 15:37

    ljmostert?2012/06/07 03:31:46 PM\r\n\r\nYou completely missing the point - Unions must develop THEIR OWN PLAYERS OF COLOUR - dis tog obvious waaroor dit gaan! Dit gaan oor ontwikkeling van rugby en almal behoort akkoord te gaan daarmee - ons weet tog watter unies maak hulle skuldig hieraan!!

  • Litha Thando Yono Ka-Zola - 2012-06-07 15:43

    I don't see how this rule is going to help. As long as WP,Bulls,Sharks,FS are still getting 200% more than EP,Border,SWD from SARFU,this situation will not change.Tiger Mangweni,Ndungane Twins,Gcobani Bobo,Zolani Mofu are just a few that Border had to let go because they could not afford the money offered by the big boys. Some are just leaving because the don't see a future with their home unions,like Lwazi Mvomvo and Sibusiso Sithole,they packed up, left Border for the Sharks...so SARFU back to the drawing board,it is about who can afford to pay more!!

      René - 2012-06-07 16:24

      Exactly @Litha

  • Pieter - 2012-06-07 16:10

    Good move to give some protection to youngsters and even the playing field in favour of those unions with the smaller wallets. To all squabbling about who buys the most players and who comes from where.......this article pertains to schoolboys and not professional carreer players....read the article again is my suggestion.

      sean.brady.14224 - 2012-06-07 17:57

      Correct Pieter, but it still allows a school to lure players with scholarships - this is common among the big sports schools.

  • Chris - 2012-06-07 16:51

    another rule that can not be implemented

  • dawiej - 2012-06-07 17:46

    Hahahah, dit beteken dat die bulle oor n paar jaar in die c ligga gaan speel...... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

  • sean.brady.14224 - 2012-06-07 17:50

    This is not good news for Gauteng schoolboys. With the Kings being promised the Lions spot in Super Rugby there is nothing to keep the better players in the province. Why should SARU now all of a sudden be worried about their wellbeing? Doesn't make too much sense. Anyway most schoolboys are over 18 when they finish matric so these rules will not apply. I have heard that the big schools "recruit" players at the young age group tournaments. This is still allowed. As an example: A Grey College coach could recruit a 16 year old, and by offering a bursary could attract a Port Elizabeth kid to their school. Until this youngster turns 18 the Southern Kings may then not approach him before speaking to the Free State Union!!! :-) Nonsensical!

  • Jack - 2012-06-07 18:27

    This won't impact schoolboy rugby. All the major boys schools send out scouts to recruit players at primary school level. It's the schools and not the unions who need a leash put on them.

  • marko.miladinovic.52 - 2012-06-07 18:57

    firstley this new law won't work. School boy rugby is amatare and therefore the unions don't own the players. The schools do play under the provincial unions, but are not payed to do so. For instance Springs Boys High school is in the Valke area but play their rugby in the Lions regionbvand the Valke can not even prevent it. On club level Delmas and Balfour play their rugby in the Valke league yet fall under the Pumas same for Sasolburg are in the Griffons region. This will not work and the larger unions will all find loopholes like WP with Anton Van Zyl and Jaque Fourie and the Sharks with Willem Albers and Louis Ludik. And remember these were professionals with binding contracts with the Lions.

  • wanderering.wanderer - 2012-06-07 21:22

    Does it really matter where the child is developed? If you get a kid that lives in Parow and wants to study at Wits Law school ( best in the Southern Hemisphere ) and plays rugby why not give him a chance. Take Josh Strauss if he did not take the oppurtunity that was given to him by the Lions will he really have been playing for the Stormers? Its about taking and giving oppurtunities to talented kids.

      vdwjasper - 2012-06-08 08:32

      The only thing there by you guys that's best in the southern hemisphere is the tard count and crime stats... Nope, in the world.

      wanderering.wanderer - 2012-06-08 10:31

      Just as I thought you have no facts to put forward so in typical Coastal fashion we get insulting and personal. Atleast the players get exposure up north and do not have to wait for a game. Interesting fact is how many of the old Springbok players sons are directly drafted into the Stormers and WP teams, talk about nepotism.

  • daniel.malan3 - 2012-06-08 00:15

    Kom tog net oor dit lol. Gaan kyk Europese Sokker! Niemand daar kerm oor "transfers" en goed nie, alhoewel spanne soos die Sharks en Bulle kan maar meer van hul eie spelers ontwikkel, WP het vir Maties en Ikeys waar baie van hul spelers afkom, niemand mag 'n speler keer om na sy keuse van Universiteit te gaan nie. Oja, Tukkies het vir 2 Kaapse studente (Brache en Blommetjies) gelok met beurse...

  • Dustin - 2012-06-08 09:00

    @Jaz - jy is heeltemal reg sekere van hierdie spelers het van een provinsie gegaan na n ander, maar sommige soos bv. M Steyn wat in Bellville gebore was het op Bloemfontein skool gegaan of W Olivier is in Welkom gebore maar het op Pretoria skool gegaan. Ongelukkig is dit die tendens in moderne sport. Die een provinsie wat die meeste kla oor spelers wat ge-"poach" word is die Vrystaat maar hulle vergeet om te noem dat meeste van hulle top spelers wat van Grey af kom is in Graad9/10 ge-"poach" van ander skole af. Niemand kan bv n speler blameer wat in PE skool gegaan het en n kontrak aanvaar om by die Bulle of Sharks te gaan speel nie. Beter geleenthede ens.

  • matt.prinsloo.1 - 2012-06-08 09:43

    Goeie besluit deur SARU. Enigste unies wat n probleem hiermee sal he is die unies wat nie hul kant bring by ontwikkeling nie. Die groter unies het egter nog n voordeel oor die kleiner unies as dit by geld kom, so miskien moet SARU dit verder neem en n reel instel soos bv 40% van jou gekontrakteerder groep spelers moet van die plaaslike streek wees. Die 40% is net n voorbeeld... En met die verdeling van televisie en ander gelde moet SARU miskien verder gaan en elke unie n bedrag betaal wat MOET gebruik word vir die kontraktering van plaaslike jong spelers. Bv elkeen van die 14 unies kry X bedrag per jaar van SARU, waarvan R3miljoen per jaar MOET gaan vir kontraktering van plaaslike spelers onder 20jarige ouderdom. Die bedrae is net voorbeelde mense, maar so n idee behoort die speelvlak bietjie meer gelyk te maak.

      Pieter - 2012-06-08 13:53

      Al daai ekstra geld gaan net in Cheeky se sak beland, en dan gaan hy nogsteed verder moan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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