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White not surprised at Boks

2011-09-19 14:12

Cape Town - 2007 RWC winning coach, Jake White has aired his views on the Springboks win against Fiji in their latest step in their quest to be the first team to retain the Webb Ellis Cup.

The blog was posted on South African rugby blog website, RugbyXV in which White commends the Boks for a much improved performance than in their opening Pool D clash against Wales.

However, he pointed out that the result was hardly surprising seeing that the Fiji side the Boks played this time around were nowhere near to the team which gave them a big surprise and almost upset them in 2007.

 “It's not the 2007 Fijian side, they're ranked 15th in the world and nearly didn't go to the World Cup because of in-fighting and politics. Anyone who has watched Fiji in the Pacific Nations Cup would know they'd be weak, especially their first phases. That was emphasised when we pushed them off the ball, while they placed no pressure on us at the lineout,” White wrote before alluding that Fiji were not wholly focussed on the Bok match and were targeting the match against Samoa instead.

White dismissed suggestions that he may have opted to play a weakened side against Namibia, who he thinks is a sure victory no matter who wears the green and gold.

“Peter de Villiers has to do it the way he wants. He's said he'd play his strongest side throughout from the beginning of the home-leg of the Tri-Nations, so it will be interesting to see what he does. With two pool games left and the play-offs, Peter has to package it the best way he can. No matter who we play against Namibia, we'll beat them.”

Australia’s loss to Ireland has put the Wallabies in South Africa’s path to the final, should the Boks go on to top Pool D and the Wallabies qualify for the quarter-finals as the runners-up in Pool C, but White says this is what he expects from a tournament of this nature.

“Everyone says we're now playing Australia, but Saturday taught us you can't assume anything. New Zealand could go the other side if they lose to France, Fiji could beat Wales and we could lose to Samoa. Anything can happen. You must just play who's put in front of you that particular week, not worry about anything else.”

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Comments
  • SAFFA-CAT - 2011-09-19 14:16

    Whilst I agree with Jake that the win against Fiji should in NO way be 'overplayed', I do think Jakey is a little bitter at the comments made after the game by a few Fijian stalwarts when they said, this Bok team is better than the 2007 version......(Kind of makes Jakey feel a little insecure possibly...)

      Werner - 2011-09-19 14:21

      Wouldn't count on him feeling insecure. The man speaks wise words, but few bother listening. Which is ironic seeing that he led us to be 2007 champions.

      Travie - 2011-09-19 14:40

      I hear what people are saying about Fiji, although I don't agree. What more must they do to make the country happy?? beat them 200-0 or what?? the guys played well limited the knock ons, great running rugby. Fiji were weak on kicking pressure and we dominated on that aspect finish and klaar.. Well done

      Mrgreeky - 2011-09-19 14:59

      No doubt Gert Smal was getting a not too few "high fives" for the way his charges "Ireland forwards" dismantled the Wallaby's. I don't think a Bok pack has ever been as dominating. That to me was the outstanding performance of the weekend. Boks had a great game but I think "on par" if we had done anything less than a hatchet job on Fiji I would have been worried. On the Irish showing in that clash I think we must be thankful that we face the Aussies in the quarter final should our plans remain intact. Wales also showed that they not a one game wonder, I still think we did very well to pip that one.

      online2590 - 2011-09-19 15:12

      jake white is eddie jones sidekick. Do we really cae what he has to say. Lead brumbies to a good super 15 and maybe then you can talk jakey

      roboman1 - 2011-09-19 15:41

      I like Jakes perspective about not worrying about next week, play the now, the moment, whoever is in front of you this week, then if you still in the tournament next week, play whoever. To win the world cup we must play every team with our best. Go Bokke

      kwezi - 2011-09-19 15:49

      Joke White speaking wise words? The one moment he says: "the Fiji side the Boks played this time around were nowhere near to the team which gave them a big surprise and almost upset them in 2007". Then, virtually in the same breath he says: "Fiji could beat Wales". How "wise" is that?

      herb77@24.com - 2011-09-19 16:14

      What's going on? So many sensible comments and polite disagreement and debate ! How unusual for these News24 forums. ;-)

      Quinton Nel - 2011-09-19 17:13

      @kwezi...Are you daft? Read his paragraph again and then decide if he said they would, OR he’s real intention: imagine if they did!!

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-09-19 18:56

      @Werner "The man speaks wise words"?? Really now! I've never heard him say a word of sense whether he was coach or afterwards. He makes PDV sound like a scholar most of the time. And always so bitter. Hating is bad. Should try and coach another team to world cup glory, then I'll take him seriously.

      Scaramouche - 2011-09-19 19:39

      Werner, more like Eddie Jones won us the 2007 World Cup!

      Grey B - 2011-09-20 08:44

      Agree with you Saffa. Agree with Jake too, this Fiji side is by no means a measure stick. We will only fool ourselves if we compare our Boks with Fiji. Yes it was nice to watch rugby and we all loved the running tries, but you will not get away with that against top teams! Keep our eyes on the prize

      DieSkim - 2011-09-20 10:18

      @Saffa-cat, online2590; kwezi; Steve Wonderboy: Either you guys know nothing about rugby, or you're being purposefully obtuse. Eddie Jones was a consultant in our 2007 World Cup Campaign. Big deal. All sides use consultants in various capacities. He was not head coach, and he did not win us the cup. He wasn't involved when Jake won the U21 World Cup, nor when we beat the Kiwis 40-26 at Ellis Park in 2004 and won the Tri Nations. Jake has a long and successful career in rugby, and to deny that just because you dislike him is petty. He was much more articulate and considered and at least never openly condoned eye gouging or left us with gems like the black mechanic parable. We won 82.3% of our games in his final year as coach, and that includes the World Cup, Divvy has a 50% win rate this year so far. Also, at the time he took over the Springboks we were ranked lowly 6th in the world, by the time he left we were1st. Give credit where credit is due guys.

  • Ulrich - 2011-09-19 14:16

    Just before everyone jumps on the bandwagon. Notice in the second paragraph that he voiced his opinions on his website. He is talking the truth even if we do not want to hear it.

  • Sean.C - 2011-09-19 14:19

    Yes Yes well written Jake.Still the best coach we ever had .

      grod - 2011-09-19 14:31

      Except for Kitch Christie.

      sharkbait - 2011-09-19 14:41

      Nick Mallett was better than Jake... He taught Jake....

      Humpme Dumpm - 2011-09-19 14:44

      @Sean......mmmmm..............loo he had a vision and followed it, but he also had an outstanding bunch of guys.........timing is everything. I think Nick Mallett was awesome, yes he made a mistake with Teichmann and has admitted it, Jake surely made mistakes too........and lets not forget Mac....... What is evident is that the coaches that have been good, have been able to explain their plan / style and player requirement very clearly to a rugby following public. They havent mumbled like Carel DuPlessis, Andre Maakgraaf and Harry Viljoen. Div's problem is that he makes too many outlandish statements. "I'm gonna make then 40% better" is a classical example. I think he called Ruan Pienaar the "Tiger Woods of Rugby". Whilst we may not agree or like Deans and Henry, they say very little........they don't give you anything to work against them with!

      Paul - 2011-09-19 14:59

      But PDV has a better record than both White and Mallet !!! GO BOKKE GO !!!

      People Hater - 2011-09-19 15:16

      And Ian McIntosh.

      seri_us - 2011-09-19 15:38

      @Paul ??? coaches win ratio... Christie 100% Mallet 71% White 67% PDV 63%

      Kaapie - 2011-09-19 15:45

      Agree sharkie.. he was Nick's video boytjie

      roboman1 - 2011-09-19 16:59

      thank u serias for the facts

      steve - 2011-09-19 18:08

      Jake won when it mattered though - in the space of about a year the boks won the RWC, Tri-Nations and beat the Lions....for a bok team there is simply nothing more to win after that. And now 11 of Jake's starting 15 are still starting....not to take anything away from Mallet and Christie of course

      Claudeus - 2011-09-19 19:57

      Kitch Christie, is still no1, Jake and Pop-eyes Mallet took a leave or 2 from his coaching.

      Superfish - 2011-09-20 04:51

      @ Seri_us Interesting facts, insted of percentages how many games was each coach in charge for

      Orca - 2011-09-20 06:45

      @Maandonkie - then why do the "springboks" wear a protea on their jerseys?

      Chief Kok - 2011-09-20 08:05

      Div has a better winning record than White.

  • Johnny-BB - 2011-09-19 14:20

    Agree, ...Proteas beating Fiji not a big surprise... ..Fiji ranked 15th in the world... ....Proteas out in quarters or semis........ ............Go All Blacks...!!!!

      JustinD - 2011-09-19 14:25

      What's happening on the flats today?

      APPLEPIE - 2011-09-19 14:39

      Proteas?? This is rugby, not cricket!!

      MaanDonkie - 2011-09-19 14:40

      Johnny BB ( Baie Brannewyn) This is rugby you tjop......they are world renowned as THE SPRINGBOKS! You are refering to our national cricket side who is currently at a training camp....something you should consider.....they call it grade 1. PS Fiji does not have a cricket side!!

      Poloyatonki - 2011-09-19 14:42

      Johnny-BB.. What are u smoking Proteas... ????

      FJ2 - 2011-09-19 14:44

      Ja, and you predicted "Fiji by 20"! You're a real fountain of wisdom, aren't you. Too bad stupidity isn't painful.

      Johnny-BB - 2011-09-19 14:47

      ....AA-BEE-PDV-Proteas... .......Go All Blacks...!!

      Johnny-BB - 2011-09-19 14:53

      FJ2, ........I also predicted Bulls by 9... ...they won by 8..... ...not bad hey....?? ......he he he he..!!

      pants - 2011-09-19 14:56

      All Blacks to choke .....AAAAgain.

      Rump - 2011-09-19 15:08

      Yep, All blacks to choke again ;-)

      Ohmikehunt - 2011-09-19 15:11

      Here's something just for you @Johnny... don't you go sharing this now! :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xVbYQ9umt4&feature=share

      Rooi gevaar - 2011-09-19 15:38

      The name Springbok was first used for the South African national rugby team in 1906. That is 105 years ago and it is still being used. On top of that apartheid ended about 18 years ago. I hope you will be man enough to apologise to your fellow South Africans when the All Blacks choke, and the will. I think the rest of us, black and white are 100% percent behind the Springboks. Go Bokke!

      SushiBoy2 - 2011-09-19 17:09

      Are you on Whoonga or Nyaope? I am sure zol can't do this to you? PROTEAS? Really?

  • Inhlanzi - 2011-09-19 14:21

    Must be nice being Jake White, every time you opne your mouth Sport24 writes an article about what you said

      The Goose - 2011-09-19 14:40

      Same goes for P.divvy.What is your point?

      Inhlanzi - 2011-09-19 15:06

      P Divvy is the coach of the the Springboks, Jake White is the coach of the Brumbies and it's not Super 15 season

  • Elliot - 2011-09-19 14:24

    I sadi it before and i will say it again "JAKE KEEP YOUR NOSE OUT OF THE BOKS TEAM.YOU HAD YOUR CHANCES". No one needs your opinion.

      Mike - 2011-09-19 14:28

      I do

      SLaw - 2011-09-19 14:39

      Anyone that leads a team to world cup victory is someone with opinions that i'm interested in hearing. Elliot, if you don't care for his opinions, why waste your time reading the article and then posting a comment?

      Tyron - 2011-09-19 14:49

      Anyone can post a blog on their thoughts of the match, Jake was merely doing that. Why are you criticizing him, someone at News 24 thought what he had to say was interesting or at least worthwhile to write an article about. He was actually supportive of the Boks, and until we all win a world cup, then Jakes opinion will still be valued.

  • Marcus Daily - 2011-09-19 14:25

    Thanx Jake. moving along, any new signings for the Brumbies?

      kosie - 2011-09-19 15:23

      i'd like to see the brumbies next year

      Met Uysh! - 2011-09-19 15:29

      Brumbies can't do worse than this year.

  • Johnny-BB - 2011-09-19 14:25

    ...PDV + John Smit = bye-bye World cup.... ...weak-links in Proteas side... ......Go All Blacks...!!!

      Will99 - 2011-09-19 14:31

      You should probably go see a doctor before it get's worst!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-09-19 14:32

      @Will99 - it's already terminal in JohnnyBB's case.

      Shistirrer - 2011-09-19 14:47

      Hes' suffering from smallcox.

      Will99 - 2011-09-19 14:49

      Sigh! Then so sad!

      DeonL - 2011-09-19 14:51

      John Smit and Heinriech B should give the Bafana Bafana some kicking tips on how to score.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-09-19 15:01

      ROTFLMAO @Shistirrer :)

      Johnny-BB - 2011-09-19 15:30

      Shistirrer, ......who..?? .......PDV..???

      Shistirrer - 2011-09-19 16:10

      @Johnny-BrannaBrains: "it's already terminal in JohnnyBB's case"

      722 - 2011-09-19 20:59

      What Protea side?

      Observer - 2011-09-20 07:14

      Who is this @$$?? Go live there on the cold miserable islands you nut! They deserve you!

  • Jw Smalberger - 2011-09-19 14:28

    Bokke will beat aus, beat nzealand that WILL choke...and kick any northern H side in the final!!!!! Thanx for ur imput jake...we dont need it!!

  • Leighton - 2011-09-19 14:28

    Is this the same Fijian side that was talked up so much by the media and the Bok haters last week? We will beat Samoa by 20pts on 30 September - I wonder what all the haters will say after that...

  • Camiel Phillips - 2011-09-19 14:29

    Let Jake air his views to which he is entitled to.The Fijians played their part im making it a good game and allowing the Boks to demostrate that they too can move up a gear if need be.It also gave Pdev an oppertunity to see Frans Steyn and Lambie showing their mettle

  • Anneleen - 2011-09-19 14:29

    ...but the Bokke most certainly have a few surprises up their sleeves...go Bokke!!!!!

  • int1m1d4t0r - 2011-09-19 14:33

    Ahhh Jake... we don't care... you just bitter the limelight is not on you??

  • BlueRaven - 2011-09-19 14:33

    Jake White you sound jealous if you ask me. If PDV and his team wins this world cup it would mean that he has a way better record as coach than you. GO PDV! GO BOKKE!!!

  • MikeMack - 2011-09-19 14:36

    JAKE WHITE SHUT YOUR HOLE ALREADY! you always have to throw in your 2 cents worth, but guess what, NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU THINK. these guys are over there and doing it WITHOUT YOU OR YOUR OPINIONS.

      The Rock - 2011-09-19 15:03

      I care! I'd rather idiots like you shut up!

      MikeMack - 2011-09-19 15:07

      WOW, very well thought out and and interesting response @the rock... you should think about calling yourself the stone or pebble perhaps...

      Nino - 2011-09-19 16:53

      Speak for yourself batman...oh yes, what's with the attitude, did someone steel your lunch ? They are hardly doing without Jake"s opinions...he is ingrained in them...he is their foundation, that fact that he is not in the dressing room is the only difference, in my humble opinion.

      GTG - 2011-09-19 20:07

      Love him or hate him, what he has forgotten about rugby you still need to learn......MikeMack.....run along now and let the big boys play............

  • Andrew Griffiths - 2011-09-19 14:39

    France have a habit of dealing with the Kiwis when it counts. They'll probably give the group win to the All Blacks and beat them when it really counts. Will be great to see, again.

  • Keith - 2011-09-19 14:41

    White why do you have 20 differrent things to say,I think you are jealous of the best we have, go back and coach your own pathetic side and leave the boks alone!!

  • bokgat1 - 2011-09-19 14:47

    Notice it's all "we" now. A month ago, he had distanced himself as he accepted a new role in Canberra. Throw him an Aussie passport, they aren't that hard to get. Plus the Rand's not worth anything to leave behind in any event. No loss for the turncoat!

      sniperman - 2011-09-19 15:13

      Hey Bokgat, Aussie passports are nigh impossible to get if you are an upstanding citizen. #1 you need a criminal record (Why is the ANC still here?) #2 you have to shag a sheep as part of your rites of passage,

      mike881 - 2011-09-19 15:19

      Oh contraire, it is bloody difficult to get an Aussie passport, unless of course they "want" you!

      Kevin King - 2011-09-19 17:47

      @ Mike: They want ewe!

  • Tyron - 2011-09-19 14:47

    People, Jake is not asking to you read his thoughts!!!!! So stop acting like he is being evangelical about it!

  • sashy_sash - 2011-09-19 14:52

    White has, in my opinion, full right to comment on the Boks, seeing as though he HAS lead the boks to victory in 2007! So all you haters build a bridge! Even if he's no longer coach, it was once his team and he deserves a word! Please, like you could do better at coaching a national team!....

      MikeMack - 2011-09-19 15:00

      thats not the point here. Jake had his time, but instead of boosting a team and a bunch of players and management, he always has something bad to say. there are many young players in the team, and also many that never played under Jake. to lay claim that its his team because he once coached it is ridiculous! i have played national sport, i don't mock what has now become the team. he needs to get off his high horse and let them get on with it. be constructive not destructive and as a fellow South African shouldn't he be throwing his full support behind them the same way the rest of the nation is!

      Tyron - 2011-09-19 15:18

      @MikeMack Jake wasnt being destructive in what he was saying, was he? He was merely being analytic of the Boks position in the world cup. He has the same right to comment on the Boks as we all do, it is our privileged. We all have our opinions, and we are entitled to them - far be it for us to say that Jake has no right to his own opinion - irrespective of whether people want his opinion or not. His views might be interesting to some as he has much more of an "insiders" point of view than any of us would ever have. Go Bokke!

      MikeMack - 2011-09-19 15:43

      @Tyron, perhaps destructive was a little strong, but have you noticed all the "but's" in any article featuring comments by Jake? its always "oh great game, wasn't surprised BUT...." everyone is entitled to their own opinion, the problem i have is Jakes opinion always seems very self centered, and the other problem is that he has access to the media which means that he isn't just sitting with his own opinion, but upsetting a lot of people by publicly voicing it. i think he should keep his nose out of everything, until the world cup is over. will be pretty funny when he sits with egg on his face should the Bokke win wont it? if something goes wrong and management and players etc need to be blamed then by all means, let him say i told you so. dont knock the guys down before they fall. as a sportsman and having had the opportunity to compete internationally for many years i can honestly tell you that opinions of those that aren't there do matter to the players and thats where is can become destructive!

      RandomDude - 2011-09-19 16:04

      @Mike , I don't think he needs to be a cheerleader, they have enough supporters . More important is to call it as he sees it . Some of what he is saying is true but the important take away for me is that the SB are improving with almost every game and the back-line is starting to show some teeth on attack.

      Pierre - 2011-09-20 08:05

      @MikeMack: My exact sentiments. After 2007 WC Gert Small became the forwards coach of Ireland, and his contribution was made pretty clear last weekend with the Irish victory. I don’t’ see Gert Small in the news papers every other day.

  • just Jack - 2011-09-19 14:57

    Who cares what you think Jake...you look like you smell the fart that you are in that pic

      Tyron - 2011-09-19 14:58

      well done, comedy genius...

      BulvanBulle - 2011-09-19 15:17

      I'll give some B-players a run against Namibia. Players like JdV, JF, Schalk, Habana and Aplon. Rest the top dogs for the bigger games.

      InternetMan - 2011-09-19 15:21

      Hy ryk sy boolip man

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-09-19 15:24

      Hello Paul (Buvanbulle) I have a serious question for you about Canadian rugby? If you would answer it?

      BulvanBulle - 2011-09-19 15:30

      Of course I will Saffa

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-09-19 15:46

      Dankie Paul - I have been bloody impressed with the Canadians at the WC. Now I believe 80% of the players are amateur? As in practice 3 times a week after work type of amateur. My question: where is the professional rugga in Canada? The professional clubs/leagues etc. Or do the few professionals playing foe the national team all play overseas at clubs in Europe? Is there really that little interest in rugga there? No financial backing at all? Cos seriously.....I reckon Canada is the hidden powerhouse, not the USA or Russia as many allude to.

      BulvanBulle - 2011-09-20 04:08

      @SAFFA I agree, Canada is surprising everyone at the WC. And yes, Canada, i guess like Namibia mostly have amateurs playing. So either full-time or part time jobs with some rugby. As far as I know a few play club-rugby in Europe and could be considered professional rugby players, I'm not sure about the percentage but think it's less than 50%. Main problem here is rugby is not top-4 even in priority sport, Ice hockey is by far the most popular sport. Professional ice-hockey players here get 3-5million dollars per season! Then football, baseball LaCrosse and and... I guess it's like baseball in SA, there are a few good clubs in SA, especially CT, but will that ever be priority enough to compete at world-level? Probably never. Main rugby clubs here are Vancouver, Toronto, Calgary, Edmonton and a few in Quebec.

  • Kenneth - 2011-09-19 15:18

    Fiji play good rugby.They may be ranked 15th,but in the previous world cup,they beat Wales.The islanders can play good rugby-not always a bad team to face.Look at their sevens record.They know they can play well,but on the day,the boks did us proud and obviously it was our day.Be it any other day,the scores might have been closer.It all depends on the day.Personally speaking,i think Jakey is still pieved that his contract was never renewed after the last world cup.I can understand why as with our quota system crap,but life goes on and at present,Div is in charge.Lets give him and the team our full support and remain positive about winning the world cup for a third time.Jakey will just have to accept that what is happening now and 4 years ago is different and the boks are faced with new challenges every world cup.Rather he must support the team instead of playing down a really good performance from the boys regardless of the opposition.He will not gain any sympathy from people by bringing down our victories regardless of who we played.Fiji are a descent side-not the best,but good enough to play against.Namibia may be a much lower raning side,but if Jakey had any common sense,in a world cup,you never take for granted you will win-fact.Rather be safe than sorry.I think Jakey has got this one wrong im afraid.

  • Sly Bacon - 2011-09-19 15:25

    Cannot remember reading a constructive positive comment from our ex coach since the start of the tournament.......I admired what Jake did in 2007 but now any repect I had for him is gone............go BOKKE and prove him wrong.........still reckon Eddie Jones pulled the strings and Jake made like a puppet.....LOL

      int1m1d4t0r - 2011-09-19 15:49

      I absolutely agree... without Eddie we would not have won!

  • James121 - 2011-09-19 15:26

    Guys, why fault a guy for HIS opinion, which is just that. The fact that you dont like it is YOUR opinion. I disagree with him but that is MY opinion, rightly or wrongly.

  • TK - 2011-09-19 15:42

    I agree with Jake (for a change) - let's not get carried away and overrate the Boks now. For the first 25 minutes we looked ordinary, until our forwards got the better of Fiji. And they played into our hands by trying to atatyck with their forwards too much and only really starting to use their backline. By then their guys were tired and finished. If PDV chooses a near full-strength team against Namibia, he it dumb. There is no way he can continue to play the same pack and expect to beat Samoa, the Aussies, the All Blacks and then probably France is succession. And if we get over-confident, the Samoans will send us home - they gave Wales very hard time and it was their second match in 4 days! If Wales gets 10 points from the rest of their matches and Samoa gets 5 points from theirs against Fiji and beats us, we are out!

      int1m1d4t0r - 2011-09-19 15:57

      Ordinary for the first 25min? How about... we defended like Trojans.... the point that everyone is missing here is that Fiji (who run like NZ) could not score a try against our team, even tho they were countless times in the red zone... for that matter... it took a forward pass for Wales to score their try.... We will decimate Namibia with an easy 5 points. If we play Samoa with the right structures, like the way we played Fiji, we will dismantle them in much the same manner, no disrespect to the Island teams, but honestly, they may have a few big okes here and there and they may be able to run the ball.. but where it counts over the entire 80min, they just dont have enough. I really hope we do face Australia, and then Nz and then whatever team comes through... that way no one can discredit our World Cup win, also i would prefer nothing more to see SA send NZ packing out of the World Cup and show them to be the chokers they are !!! :)

  • Keith3663 - 2011-09-19 15:43

    Jake my man ... give Snorre credit where its due. Has Snorre messed up before, yes he has. Has he done some good. Yes he has. To say that this team was weaker than in 2007 is laughable. Maybe the Boks just out thought, out palyed and out muscled Fiji in 2011, something which you battled to get right in 2007. Your consistent negativity is giving me a cramp. Bow out on a high, do not become a whinge bag!

  • Nino - 2011-09-19 15:53

    Oops, slight correction...let's fix that and try again :-) Hey Elliot...do you watch rugby much ? Just checking coz news is news and when a former World cup winning Coach speaks, no matter from which country he is, people are interested and listen. The main difference being that if we should sneak this World Cup..., and make no mistake we are right in there with a great shot at it...it will be despite mR de Villiers and not because of him . Dr Rassie plus player power and Bok Spirit, in a nutshell, are what will do it. The only credit i can find it in me to give P Div is that he realised at some stage, and i try my best to say this with all; respect, albeit unconvincingly, that he doesn't have the foggiest idea about coaching...at this point he reverted to the Jake White blue-print , plus a good dose of Kitch's style...add on the co-opted talents like Rassie and our Stormers defensive brains, and that was the only smart moves he made. So in my books that makes him a decent manager...but he ‘aint no coach. Which brings to my point...when Jake speaks people listen because he is real old fashioned down to earth Professor of the game...and he knows his oats...if we win this, people will listen to P Div as well..but believe me it will be for a laugh and with many an ear coked just waiting for the next gaffe.

      chrisbc - 2011-09-19 21:55

      If JW is such a wonderful coach, why did it take him 4years to find another coaching position?

      Nino - 2011-09-20 09:34

      Jake was a very busy man for those 4 years, with the Book and the consulting company, and for sure he was not desperate for a job...i would guess he had a return to the Bok job in mind for at least the first 2 and a half years of Div's tenure, coz it sure looked for a long time like Div was gonna hang himself...then when it became clear the Bok job would never be his again he started reacting to offers and chose the one that appealed the most...so it was hardly about finding a job at all...he could pick and chose, it was all about career and his passion for the Springbok.

  • Lonewolfman - 2011-09-19 16:01

    Give Jake his dues he has earned it, but no matter who the put in front of us we are expected to beat them as we are world chapions and to bring it back home need to do just that beat everyone.

  • Chris - 2011-09-19 16:10

    This year's Boks will have a much tougher task than any of their predecessors if they have to play Australia in the quarter finals & New Zealand in a semi - finals. Only the 1995 Boks had a some tough hurdle to play defending champions (Australia) in the opening match @ Newlands. By winning both the aforementioned will make them the best Bokside ever. My opinion! May be wrong!

  • Mike - 2011-09-19 16:12

    what a bunch of d1m-w1ts supporting a very bitter former boks coach. you guys needs to growup and smell the coffee, PDV is the boks coach and no amount of crap from whitey is going to change any of that. what a loser

      Nino - 2011-09-19 17:09

      What the heck has whitey got to do with it ? As for loser...how's that mirror of yours my man...this is a forum for discussions and opinions, not petty blah blah blah and black/white axe grinding...we've grown up and moved on, did you miss that lesson ? .

  • IC1 - 2011-09-19 16:21

    Sour grapes Jake??

  • braaingbok - 2011-09-19 16:29

    I agree whith what White says about anything can happen. A team shouldn't have to worry about who they might be playing if they are aiming to be the world champions. If you want to be a world champion you should be able to beat anyone. Id much rather see South Africa win by playing tough games then see them go far based on unfortunate events in the pool games.

  • Owami - 2011-09-19 16:45

    South Africans are so difficult to please - including Jake White. Boks win and "no, the Fiji side was weak" - why can't you just give to the guys for playing to win! They won the game by a big margin - give it to them! We sound like parents who are just not capable of praising their own children. Somehow the neighbour's child is always better than their own. Whew!

      Dazbo - 2011-09-19 16:59

      Totally agree Owami....Well said. Jake, in my opinion, was a good coach and proved that by winning the WC in 2007. With regard to the Fiji game....there's no such thing as a weak Fijian team. They and the Samoans are big guys and their strength lies in smashing teams into the ground with their massive tackles etc. The Boks, however, turned the tables and totally "out-tackled" them.....it was a joy to watch !!! Go Bokke....

  • Ed - 2011-09-19 16:51

    what a twat he is...

  • Midfield Maestro - 2011-09-19 17:51

    He was a great coach but I'm sure Jake White has his fingers crossed for Boks to get kicked out of the tournament early. I'm sure he has even mastered the haka in hope for NZ to win but he tends to forget that this cup is bigger then him and his ego, its for all South Africans all those rugby mad wake up in the early hours of the morning just to satisfy our rugby addictions. Go the boks!!!

  • almosthuman - 2011-09-19 19:08

    Jake,Gert Smal and Alistair Coetzee took a crap team and made them world beaters,PDiv and his side-kicks,Muir and Gold are still benefiting from his work,what have the rest of you haters done,besides being legends in your own lunchtime ? Show some respect,the man is a winner....klaar.

      SirGibbs - 2011-09-19 20:35

      so according to your logic, pdivvy should've selected a whole new squad? dont be an idiot...

  • AgPseDaddy - 2011-09-19 19:12

    I fully agree it was Eddie Jones that won the WRC for the Springboks in 2007 and not Jake White!!!!

  • OzzieCPT - 2011-09-19 20:29

    Jake White - shut-up!

  • Thami Fraser - 2011-09-19 20:57

    I certainly detect some bitterness/malice in all Jake's comments on the Springboks at RWC 2011. Jake, at least this team is proudly South African, with a proudly South African coaching staff. No Eddie Jones to hold little Jake's hand in the coaching department. All genuinely Freshly Ground South Africans, because we Can. And if needs be, we will take on the Kangaroos and the Kiwis on our way to becoming the first nation to win RWC 3 times. By the way, thanks for winning 2007. But just get a little bit more supportive, stop sniping.

  • Mark - 2011-09-19 21:49

    Last week nothing was said about how good Wales were. This week it's about how bad Fiji were. WTF give credit where credit is due. And please no more "Jake coached more than half of the present squad" PDV and the team needs our support...

  • BradMan4RSA - 2011-09-19 21:50

    Easy for everyone to speak about history. Fact is nothing is the same with 2011 RWC, combination of players, coaches, even rules have changed. To PDV & the boys all the luck in the world. You gonna need it. We supported White when he was the coach, so support PDV and the current team. After all they are our ONLY team & coach in RWC 2011 ;-)

  • theunsvw - 2011-09-20 07:13

    Jake get over yopurself, if we needed your advice we would ask for it....!

  • Mysta - 2011-09-20 08:04

    I think that Jake White should shut up and focus on how he plans to get th brumbies back to winning ways. Yes he won the world cup but he was lucky as we managed to avoid both aus and nzl in that world cup. We are still playing the same old boring rugby we played in 2007. The only diff is that we had a playing flyhalf and not kick everything Morne Steyn. If the boks number 1 kicker was at fullback Butch would be the number 1 choice at flyhalf and we would have the same team effectively. So Jake White must just shut up.

  • MarkG73 - 2011-09-20 08:38

    To all you fools who have commented about how you want Jake White to shut up and how you don't need is opinions, think about it. If you really didn't need his opinions, why did you click on the link. You could have quite easily have shown your disdain to his opinions by not reading this article. And if no-one reads articles about Jake, they would stop writing about him, but looking at these responses and the "air" time news24's sponsors are getting, if I were them I would write 10 articles a day about Jake. So if you are not interested in Jakes opinion, then don't read the article. Leave it rather for those who want to hear his comments. Also think about how many people want to see your comments???? More than Jake Whites???? I don't think so!!!

  • Rajty - 2011-09-20 10:30

    Give me a break- does it sound like he is waiting for the Boks to fail- if we do he is forever the hero- if we don't what he achieved becomes second to PDiv- we can't have that- no white man can play second fiddle to a coloured with a moustache- for a guy that has nothing to do with Sa Rugby anymore he sure likes commenting....either come here and ply your trade or stay in Aus and focus on those little ponies....

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