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Sad end to a Springbok era

2011-10-09 14:59

Wellington - South Africa sent stalwarts of their 'golden generation' into retirement on Sunday after their grip on the Webb Ellis trophy slipped away with a 11-9 loss against Australia that had them bundled out of the World Cup in the quarter-finals.

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The loss signalled the end of the international careers of captain John Smit and coach Peter de Villiers, while vice-captain Victor Matfield also suggested he had ended his Test career.

It is also doubtful whether lock Bakkies Botha, who was sent home earlier this week with an Achilles' injury, will play internationally again. All three forwards were instrumental players in the 2007 World Cup-winning side.

"It was a brilliant journey, something that none of you guys can take away from me. There's a time to come and a time to go. So I think the journey for me is over," De Villiers told reporters.

"I wanted to be the best me that I could be, the way that I am is the way that I want to be remembered."

Smit, whose general play has been usurped by Bismarck du Plessis, said he was also disappointed to be leaving his final World Cup earlier than hoped.

"It's a sad occasion, you never prepare for how it ends because you want it to be a fairytale, you want it to be a final, but it hasn't worked out that way," the 33-year-old Smit, who had won 111 caps, said.

"It would be silly to take that seven years (as captain) and judge it by what happened today.

"I have been blessed to be in charge of these guys and run out with them and blessed to be captain of the Springboks.

"I think it's not important how I want to be remembered. People always talk about a legacy but for me it has been a privilege to be able to play with the guys that have made my career what it was.

"I am devastated today. It's the end of a chapter and I am proud of the guys, I have played with and really proud to have been a Springbok."

The match had been billed as a clash between an aging South Africa side with a conservative style of play against a young Wallabies team with potentially the world's best backline, and in the end, the Springboks' style proved their downfall.

While their kicking game created pressure which allowed them to win penalties, or poach turnovers from errors and keep the scoreboard ticking over, four years of failing to develop a true attacking thrust in their backline was evident.

Time and again the ball was handed to hard-charging forwards in the midfield to break the advantage line, which they rarely did, while their backs became too lateral.

They managed just one line break when centre Jean de Villiers breached the Wallabies' stretched defence but his pass to fullback Pat Lambie was ruled forward by referee Bryce Lawrence after he had crossed the line early in the second half.

That try and, no doubt, conversion by the metronomic flyhalf Morné  Steyn would have given the Springboks a 10-8 lead and it is doubtful whether Australia would have been able to re-group with 30 minutes remaining and the South Africans' confidence growing.

"At half-time we felt we had the upper hand even though we were a couple of points behind. In the second half, we had one or two calls go against us," centre De Villiers told reporters.

"We have only got ourselves to blame. Sometimes you get one or two opportunities and you need to take them, and Australia did that."

Reuters

Comments
  • Klem - 2011-10-09 15:15

    What can you say - SAD !! played like only winners would/could - But question ??? - how can we have so many chances and not convert them to points - forget abt ref etc. also giving away a penalty like that at a crucial point ? - grabbing the jumpers legs out from underneath him - come on now guys you were winners and proud heroes today lets leave it at that.

      clivegoss - 2011-10-09 15:51

      Klem in rugby there is a ref. Mr REF to you and all players. The one that officiated today match gives rugby a bad name. It is NOT sad that the ref was as thick as two planks. The IRB has to answer for the miscarrige of justice and all the senseless decisions that was made and THEY the IRB let this incompetant official just carry on for a crucial second halve where he merely confirmed that he should rather sit in the stands and observe

      Circa - 2011-10-09 16:11

      We all knew that John Smit and Peter the idiot will cost us the world cup; they just had to supply the details. First half, kickable penalty, John ‘Eisbein” Smit decide to go for the sideline, three points down the drain, goodbye world cup. All this while the best hooker in the world is sitting on the bench. Now please Mr Smit & de Villiers, go and retire in disgrace.

      LuLuBug - 2011-10-09 16:40

      To Circa - could you play any better?? If not - shut up!! People always have a lot to say about losses......but I bet they cannot play at all

      RandomDude - 2011-10-09 17:05

      Circa they did cost us the WC . They dominated and what I saw there was a superior team who simply had no luck going their way . i don't like moaning but refs ingeneral need to brush up on what constitutes a fwd pass ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lefG94K6PSM & http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=10734347

      RandomDude - 2011-10-09 17:06

      didn't*

      Circa - 2011-10-09 18:11

      @ Lulu the hibernating hedgehog If you fail to see the value of the three points that John threw away in the first half, then you should not even be watching the game.

      Jon JJ - 2011-10-09 20:17

      Good to know that our ANC bumchum coach is calling it quits though. I suppose with bad news there's also good news sometimes. Good riddance to PDiv - the experiment failed.

      StaalBurgher - 2011-10-09 23:13

      @Klem - Entirely right. We did NOT lose because of the ref. Yes, he was bad and we should've gotten several more penalty but we dominated the game so much that it is our own fault for not scoring more points. Knock-ons galore right from their 22 up to the try line. The Welsh complained about dominating but not winning, but that game was a far cry from what happened in this quarter final. We literally lost the game ourselves. Bryce is a retard but we can only blame ourselves, we were so much better than the Ozzies but didn't finish off and at the end of the day that is all that matters.

      piet.strydom - 2011-10-10 00:57

      @Randomdude Baie baie interessant.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lefG94K6PSM http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=10734347

  • Brandon - 2011-10-09 15:17

    Smit and Bakkies will be missed. Matfield will be sorely missed. And as for de Villiers...well, he'll be missed by the media and those of us who like a good chuckle...other than that, good riddance.

      ShRoOm PoPsiCLe - 2011-10-09 15:25

      The writing was already on the wall in the Tri-Nations when our 'A' team were unable to knock over the Wallabies in South Africa. We should have learnt from that - instead, we fooled ourselves into thinking with some more game time the guys would come good. Next time, let us rather learn from our mistakes instead of being so bloody stubborn.

      slg - 2011-10-09 15:44

      Shroom, any other coach with proper knowledge and experience would have cleaned up world rugby with this crop of players.

      ShRoOm PoPsiCLe - 2011-10-09 16:00

      slg I wouldn't say 'any' other coach, but yes, there are many coaches out there that could have produced more from our players. I still believe we have the best players - it is the tactics and decision-making in-game that let us down. And that is down to coaching.

      slg - 2011-10-09 16:15

      Shroom, any other coach "with proper knowledge and experience".

      Johnny-BB - 2011-10-10 09:23

      ...PDV will not be missed.....

      JJ - 2011-10-10 09:30

      Can't agree with you more !!!! One thing no one can argue with - Jake White pulled through a winning team even while he was the centre of controversy.....So sad , our Bokke deserved that cup !!! Even though they didn't win , I am so proud of them for representing us & giving it their all !!!!!!!! Go bokke !!!!

  • Kapa O Pango - 2011-10-09 15:19

    Sorry...ne

      thozi - 2011-10-09 22:26

      I'm still proud of our Springboks. Yes we lost this time, other teams have also lost against us in the past and we'd become world champs: Twice! As the saying goes, you win some, you lose some. We'll be back. Yeah, sorry guys, but you're still the best.

  • ShRoOm PoPsiCLe - 2011-10-09 15:22

    At least come 2015 we won't be sending a side who competed in 2011. We need to use the opportunity now in this next four years to groom some good youngsters - get a decent backline coach and work on the facets of our play which were underwhelming. And please, let us not pick a coach based on sentiment or politics, but one that has proven himself. We had a chance to get Robbie Deans remember, instead we chose PDiv. Let us not make these same mistakes again. Bokke played well today - but not good enough. If we can just get a backline to play like our forwards, we would be world beaters again..

  • Samurai Demo - 2011-10-09 15:25

    PLEASE NO HYNEKE-we will continue playing stoic bulls rugby otherwise-plus he is too old-school. john mitchell-he started up the western force all on his own, re-invented the lions and had a killer winning percentage with nz.

      ShRoOm PoPsiCLe - 2011-10-09 15:27

      Agreed, the best thing for us would be to get a NZ coach - the best of both worlds. Warren Gatland might also be a good 'buy'? He seems to be doing a great job with Wales.

  • Zion - 2011-10-09 15:34

    One gets the impression that John Smit could expect his tenure as the Springbok captain to last indefinitely. The Bokke won the 2007 world cup. It seems that he wants to carry on doing it for an indeterminate period. Unfazed by the fact that every action or motion has a specific lifetime. Given the age of some of the Springboks this year around then it is obvious that they are passed their shelf-life. If this factor had been taken into consideration earlier the Springboks could have lifted the Tri-nations trophy as well as the Cup they just returned to New Zealand. The 2010 Tri-nations tournament was lost for the very same reason:- Shelf life.

      ¦? - 2011-10-09 15:38

      Maybe the quality of players to replace these people simply wasnt there.Just look at Australian cricket,they dominated for 10 years,no doubt because of Warne,Mcgrath,Waugh brothers and so on,now that theyre no longer there,theyre not as dominant as what they were. Quality is what counts and these are quality players,and one or two of them are replaceable,but not all of them.We need more development in former non-white only areas.

  • TicTacToe - 2011-10-09 15:36

    So sad so bad, maybe next time guys. Good luck to the remainder teams, may the best one win. I'll still be wearing my "bok shirt". Not too sure they will be welcomed with open arms when they return...

  • Derek Gerber - 2011-10-09 15:37

    So what does that say about the "playing style" of Australia who basically were on the back foot the whole game and won by a whisker? With the able help of BL. Your line of reasoning is crap to say the least, any team could have won and therefore your deduction meaningless.

  • slg - 2011-10-09 15:38

    Had we had a proper coach we would have cleaned the AB's the last four years and defended our crown such has been the quality of our players. Not only should Div resign, which he has, but Regan should too. It was his dumb decision that put Div there, and his stubbornness that kept him there.

      Boeta Nev - 2011-10-09 20:23

      You wrote on numerous occassions on this forum that Peter is/was not the coach of the Bokke. Have you changed your mind?

  • Dontknow777 - 2011-10-09 15:38

    If a managing director fired his star employee... only to see the company fail, who should get the blame? PDV isn't to blame for taking the position; Hoskins is to blame for being wholly incompetent and putting his own personal agenda first. Start at the top, the very top. One can only hope South African rugby gets back to its roots and stops focussing on a single tournament that happens only every four years.

      slg - 2011-10-09 15:42

      I agree. Regan must go. But Div is responsible too. He should never have applied. He had not even coached a Super 14 team. Absurd.

      Xysecret - 2011-10-09 22:18

      Yip i like ur name , very typical dontknow , U can't blame PdV for the errors the Boks made today , he doesn't teach 'em to pass forward , or drop d ball all over d place , blame d players themselves , but they played with heart and determination not like silly Banana Banana who were only good @ dancing yesterday...

  • gpwengineer - 2011-10-09 15:41

    They forgot to take Fourie du Preez with them...

  • Barry Edwards - 2011-10-09 15:46

    Yes an end of an era. Lets be proud of the guys coming home and look forward to the next era.

      Mark - 2011-10-09 20:23

      barry you lost.......your team are losers .......were never going to win the world cup

      CDS - 2011-10-09 21:20

      @Mark:- Sorry should have mentioned your surname, Dickenhead...sorry mate I forgot.

      CDS - 2011-10-09 21:51

      @Mark:- Hey Barry just you know, Marky Dickenhead is a clever guy, he always knew that the Boks were not gonna win the World Cup...you wanna know why he knew that? Well because he belongs to the Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Federation of New Zealand...I mean WTF...LOL!! You're an embarrassment to your lovely nation...you're stupid frikken drainlayer...keep your mouth in the drain where it belongs...twat!!

      Barry Edwards - 2011-10-10 21:28

      @Mark...Losers on the score board yes! Losers in our hearts ? No way. Never. Winners of of the match. Totally !!!

  • Jack - 2011-10-09 15:47

    Today showed that you can have the best team on the planet, but they still have to be coached. PdV, Muir and Gold are responsible for this loss. They are useless and should be brought before an inquiry and publicly excoruated and humiliated. They are braindead and deserve the disgust and contempt of all. And the people who put them there must be removed with as soon as possible. When Heyneke didn't get the job, and it was admitted in public that PdV was appointed for political reasons, we all sat on our hands, when we should have blockaded sporting venues and brought the sport to a standstill through consumer power. I call on all to heed this for the next coaching appointment. If it is not in the interests of the rugby public WE MUST ACT!! We must make these people pay for their actions.

      slg - 2011-10-09 15:49

      Could not agree more. Regan must go. REGAN STEP DOWN NOW.

      Scrummie09 - 2011-10-09 16:14

      How can we not create space with so much posession and territorial advantage ? Surely we are not skilled enough or are coached otherwise? Our centres are defenders only and the opposition can't wait for one of our forwards to "storm ram" or crush forward with their runs so that they can tackle them and create turnover ball or get a penalty. Even the tight five of other top teams can distribute with short passes and get the next player into the gap. Look at the NZ locks and hooker, even the Samoa flyhalf etc. I blame our style of play.I blame our coaches and technical advisors. How can you dominate Samoa for the first 20min with scrums and lineouts but still opt to defend by giving the ball to the opposition to have a run at you - why then not kick for the corners and territory to setup lineouts and scrums which we are dominating ? It was clear in todays AUS game that we try and feed the ball down the backline to get the wing to break inwards and setup 2nd phase - that is all option we know apart from crushball !!! When did you last see a grubber, a kick across for a wing, a short inside pass to a Spies in full flight (he can only run sideways from a scrum) etc etc ??

      Jack Turner - 2011-10-09 16:34

      Well stated Jack....

  • JS - 2011-10-09 15:51

    Smit, Bakkies and Matfield you guys were my childhood heroes; always playing amazing rugby and being great South Africans. We will miss you.

      Juggernaut - 2011-10-09 20:10

      Not Smit. He was NEVER the best in his position. He will not be remembered for his no. of tests or the "good" thongs he did, but they way his ego contributed materially to a Bok decline.

      abri - 2011-10-10 09:36

      @ Juggernaut; Smith hoisted a world cup and kept the boks under the top three ranked teams in the world. Agreed he was not the best in his position in recent times, but he was first in his captaincy position and his leadership and charisma made him the best in his position. The only time he was overshadowed was when Bizzy came in. Bizzy did brilliant as a super sub and now has cemented himself as arguably one of the best Nr. 2's in the world.

  • ShRoOm PoPsiCLe - 2011-10-09 16:08

    Let's be positive. We have a chance now to inject some new players into the mix, with a new coach using new tactics. Let's base our strategy on good attack and defense.. and not just focus on defense. This is an exciting time for SA Rugby and an oppotunity now to build towards 2015. Look at how bad the Aussies were four years ago.. and now they are in the Semis. Yes, they were 'helped' by the ref, but they still stuck at it and played with passion. Our guys, with all that experience, possession, and territory were still unable to put together a try scoring attack. Please let us get a coach who puts as much emphasis on attack as he does on defense. And please let us play in-form players from now on, and not just people who were 'good in the past'.

  • wit elephant - 2011-10-09 16:09

    just sad ladies ...what a legacy .Still the best bok team ,band of brothers and players ever .proud to be a bok supporter.thank you john and co

  • Jm - 2011-10-09 16:22

    Who will be our next coach?

      106SA - 2011-10-09 16:32

      Ask the ANC..they will 'select' anyway!!

      wiledog - 2011-10-09 22:10

      ABSA willl decide, with ANC pressure....

  • Steve - 2011-10-09 16:31

    ok

  • PecanNut - 2011-10-09 16:35

    Just pathetic having the best hooker in the world sitting on the sidelines today. Now we have to wait another 4 years ! That decision alone cost us. This mentality of living in the past was going to catch us and it did. Smit was a great player but he really should have known better than to along with Peter. He should have bowed out at his peak basking in glory instead on having this embarrassment to contend with.

  • HendrikAfrika - 2011-10-09 16:36

    Jean go play for the blue bulls, you will fit in nicely with Wynand with neither of you passing the ball - YOU are the reason our backline did not do anything worthwhile. Victor, glad you are leaving - you can not run with a ball nor can you pass properly, the basics in rugby. The only thing you can do well is get the line out balls, which you did well but from a Springbok one would expect some, at least some normal rugby play as well. Smit you had your days, the problem is they were a long time ago. Where are our best wings, Basson and Van den Heever, players that could have given us the game and be there for the next cup as well. Snorre you tried to be to secretive, so much so that you yourself did not know what you were doing with the squad and who was to play when or who is hurt etc. Go retire, your memory needs it. Spies, please go on a diet and concentrate on the TV adds, you are no rugby player worth playing as eightman in any of our provincial squads - try replacing Victor, it wont be difficult. There were two outstanding players in the game, the young dynamic Wallaby wing(14) and on our side I would say Pat Lambie ( a big future for this young man), but then the ref that seemed to have played for the Aussies should also be considered as player of the match - as a wallaby.

      Die Kenner - 2011-10-09 17:36

      Basson & vd Heever??? Unfortunately not up to international standard

      Bok-Kappater - 2011-10-09 18:23

      Ai Hendrik daar sleep u nou twee goeie name ("Hendrik" en "Afrika") deur die modder.

  • al_bundy - 2011-10-09 16:50

    If Saru (Hoskins and whoever else appointed Pdiv) does not learn from this, much worse things are to come for the Springboks. For f*** sake it's a professional sport, PLEASE appoint professionals.

  • RaggedTooth - 2011-10-09 16:55

    Who will be the next captain? Seems Schalk is the only option for now, but he's not a very long term solution. My Springbok captain for the future will be Patrick Lambie.

      abri - 2011-10-10 09:42

      Captaincy is not about necessarily being the best player in the team (Although that is preferable). Lambie was SA's man of the match, but not a captain. I usually prefer a captain no further from the front than Flyhalf. That is where the action is.

  • DJGRAHAM - 2011-10-09 17:55

    May the best team win

  • Otello - 2011-10-09 18:02

    WHY OF WHY WAS MORNE STEYN NOT SET UP FOR DROP GOALS? HE IS A DROP-GOAL MACHINE. EVEN IF HE WERE TO MISS TEN ATTEMPTS AT GOALO THE ELEVENTH WOULD HAVE SEALED THE MATCH. AND THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO RESTART.VERY POOR DECISION-MAKING BY THE VERY EXPERIENCED PLAYERS. I AM SO ANGRY I CAN CHEW BRICKS.

      Phillip Carlisle - 2011-10-10 00:47

      100% right, all that possession and within range and no attempts. It is a complete mystery to me, remember England in 99, we killed them with Janie and the 5 drops. Just bad decisions and bad captaincy.

  • Gerhard09 - 2011-10-09 18:40

    Skop pale toe as jy kan - 8-0 agter en jy dink jy kan 'n drie druk - Ondervinding behoort vir oupa Smit gese het hy het 'n goeie skopper vir daardie maklike skoppe. HY KOS ONS TOE DIE WORLD CUP - Met al die balbesit kan eenoog, onfikse Bryce Lawrence nie alleen uitgesonder word nie. PdV moes geluister het toe die mense wat rugby ken hom gese het dat John Smit ons nommer 6 of 7 haker is. Die een arm Sprinbokke het gelukkig verloor en nie die op die bors springbokke nie.

  • LuLuBug - 2011-10-09 18:42

    At Circa - attack me all you like BUT! could you have played better? If yes, why are you not a Springbok??

  • John - 2011-10-09 19:41

    When our teams excel we applaud them no end.... but when they falter we blame the government, the ref or the fact that the temperature was 2 degrees too high

  • kiwimania - 2011-10-09 20:25

    No it's not...!!!!! It's brilliant...!!!! Suck it up and choke on that...!!!!

      CDS - 2011-10-09 21:33

      How's the sheep there Kiwiman(ia)? Having fun maaaatee??

  • Durbanpoison - 2011-10-09 20:32

    Thanks Bryce you are such a great player...player of the tournament if you ask me....thanks for ending the careers of legends on such a low note...yours will come soon if there really is such thing as karma....don't mind losing to a better team but when things are very obvious...then you have to speak out......

  • Sword - 2011-10-09 20:33

    Its not a sad end of SA Rugby, Its the beggining of a new Pack! I'm so proud of each and every person that has been under Coach PDV and John "CPT Marvelous" Smit.

  • CPII - 2011-10-09 20:43

    Chokers.…with Chief Choker in charge…aka PdV.

  • johnnylaw - 2011-10-09 20:48

    nothing will change the result...nothing will change that fact that our back line was found wanting on several occasions with passes behind the trotting man. one thing that could change, however, is the absolute intervention of a wider governing body in the intervention (and this is what this was) of one of the most piss-poor refereeing displays ever produced on the world stage. the saddest thing is that this c@nt is joined by at least two others and that is the travesty of world rugby in this day and age. It should NEVER, repeat NEVER be the destinay of a rugby game to owe its outcome to the whims of a referee. Owens, Barnes, and that effing ball of turd that reffed todays Bokke Wallabies match should all turn to something less intellectually challenging like indoor bowls... at least they might have time to look at only one player at a time!!!!

  • Robert - 2011-10-09 20:56

    Does anyone know what the stats are with regards to how many times SA has won or lost when Lawrence was Ref cos if memory serves me correctly he is not a friend of SA. In fact how is it that a Southern Hemisphere Ref was used. I am sure somewhere like Japan etc. have some quality Refs, Which Lawrence is not

  • The Rob - 2011-10-09 21:11

    maori, jonny cc, cock, you all must be delighted. Well done, your team can now go on to win the RWC. Nothing left to be said. You got your wishes.

  • kiwiruz - 2011-10-09 21:15

    Kia Ora SA supporters, sorry for your loss. Being a kiwi I will give you a perspective that many of my peers would agree with. the Boks pack may be the best in the world which is hard to admit from an AB supporter, but PDV has misguided your team by not developing a complete game, when things don't go to plan typically the Boks of today don't make adjustments, I don't know if it is stubbeness, inability, leadership or coaching, but my guess is coaching, its no mistake that 3 of the 4 semi finals teams are coached by NZers. The talent is there and I think you selected your best team, a team very capable of much more - Sorry got to say it Get rid of PDV Hard to understand how with all the possession and territory dominance the Bok backs could not break the Defensive line. There were opportunities galore. I hope the AB's don't F up their chance this time, wish us luck, and I look forward to watching you rebuild stronger and better. Will be hard to ever replace Matfield though.

      CDS - 2011-10-09 21:40

      Nothing like a nice Kiwi. Thanks bud and enjoy the RWC victory!

      buccaneer - 2011-10-09 21:41

      Thank you kiwiruz for your true, but kindly spoken words. Correct, a true replacement for Victor will be difficult. The Boks will be back. We will enjoy the rest of the tournament with you!

  • Peter - 2011-10-09 22:55

    Guys...yup it is ad to say the least.But did we really loose or did we win.From this loss we also loose a overdue retirement captain,a coach that is way out of his depth and league and a bunch of nearly thirty-year old players that are second to none uncompetitive.So tell me this...What did we really loose?We lost a quarter final and that is that.Guy we won more then we lost.I look forward to a Springbok team with out Smit,Matfield,Redcard Botha,Du Preez,Fourie,De villiers,Habana and Resouw.Hope retirement treats them well...We can do better then these guys my friends.Just remember most of them will be over 30 next year.That is not a future.Gooday,goodluck and Goodnight.

  • Michael Delbridge - 2011-10-09 23:07

    As a kiwi AB's supporter I was quite neutral last night, possibly rooting for Australia because I feel they are the lesser team and an easier beat in the SF. From watching the game I saw several 50/50 calls go against the Bokke but Bryce Lawrence wasn't the only one at fault (though the game COULD have been different, and I do not respect the man myself). I do not believe for a moment that Morne Steyn couldn't have put a couple of drop goals over - he can do them from mammoth distances. A changing of the guard is needed and it will define South African rugby - go a NH coach and play slower, more tactically, more solidly, or possibly an NZ coach and play with more flare. Hard luck SA, looking forward to our next game against you.

      Oukoos - 2011-10-10 13:30

      It all boils down to bad bad captaincy. Remember Jannie de Beer's five drop goals in the 1999 Rugby World Cup in Paris against England? Morne could have done the same.

  • ozzymate - 2011-10-09 23:45

    Sad end to a Springbok era? NO MATE, MORE OF A FITTING END TO ARROGANT BUNCH,COULD NOT HAVE HAD A BETTER WAY TO SHUT UP THEIR BRAIN DEAD SUPPORTERS. NOW ITS YOUR TURN TO SUCK IT UP.

      LuLuBug - 2011-10-10 01:21

      wow ozzymate! how proud we are to be South African! Just listen to you! *shudder* are all ozzies like you? Awful!!

      IIIlllIII - 2011-10-10 10:14

      Ozzymate - thanks for reminding me of what you guys are like, after yesterday's loss, you make me proud again to be South African.

  • NZKiwi - 2011-10-09 23:50

    If your a sore loser then blame the ref, hahahahahahahahaha

  • Josh Brown - 2011-10-10 00:10

    DAVID POCOCK = SA PACK

  • louhou - 2011-10-10 00:18

    Nice words from our man Pieter De Villiers ""I wanted to be the best me that I could be, the way that I am is the way that I want to be remembered."

  • Josh Brown - 2011-10-10 00:19

    Absolutely pathetic. Profound ineptitude. Massive underachievers. The Boks have always been a team with no spirit and no cohesion. There is no excuse for no ticker and no pride in the jersey, a loss is no bad thing but to lose without fight shows the lack of pride this side has. They were leaderless, had no game plan and clearly did not want to be there. The entire team needs to go back into the seconds and thirds until they get the spirit for the game back. However we know that is not going to happen and the prima donna's will be picked again.

      LuLuBug - 2011-10-10 01:26

      Let's see you play?

      Stefan Pretorius - 2011-10-10 08:16

      Your reasoning is just as pathetic ! This was the Boks best game of the year, yet they won some of the less good games ? Makes you think, how is this possible in a proffesional era? There was nothing wrong with the Boks - look at the stats ! They can hold their heads up high, I am proud of the boys ! With the game they played they would have won Aus by 20 points with another ref !

  • Charl - 2011-10-10 02:03

    We only have ourselves to blame - It is time for new blood in the team and a coach that can bring some attacking patterns and moves to our backline, we had the game in the bag in terms of the stats but we could not do anything with the ball when it counted, we need to learn how to execute the play. Finally divy and john smit are gone! Glad to see Lambie, Hougaard, Bismarck, Francois Steyn stepping up - big hope for the future! The BOKS will be back!

  • superbok - 2011-10-10 03:09

    Well done IRB!!! How a ref that has an interest in the outcome of such a crucial match be selected to officiate in the first place, is beyond me! What really gets to me is that Bryce Lawrence will wake up this morning and think the world's all dandy...and if we're lucky the IRB will release a statement that they had a talk with old Brycie, and then...wait for it...he officiates in next years' NZ vs S.A.Tri-Nations game!!! You gotta love Paddy and the gang!!! Bloody w@nkers!!!

  • Bloubul Jonck - 2011-10-10 07:05

    SAD what SAD Happy ending to a Nightmare regarding IRB They SUCKS

  • Greegs - 2011-10-10 08:49

    Glad this era is over. SARU should take a portion of the blame for recruiting Divvy, Gold and Muir. These guys have brought nothing to the team. One of the areas of concern for ages now is the fact that we can't score tries, and did that cost us yesterday? You had ages to fix this but chose to ignore everyone and head off in the wrong direction. You all got what you deserve in the end. How could you play Smit before Bizzie? How could you play Habana before Aplon? How could you play Du Preez instead of Hougaard? Want me to carry on?

  • Lionel - 2011-10-10 09:20

    after al these guys have been through, am just curious about the future of the head coach.

  • woodifer - 2011-10-10 09:26

    wahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaahhaa

  • guishi - 2011-10-10 09:31

    A bad tradesman always blames his tools. The Aussies were the better players!

      LadyBok - 2011-10-10 12:57

      What crap!

  • Jakes-cpt - 2011-10-10 09:31

    It might be an end to era but can also be the start of new, great things. New coach, new captain... new team spirit. Although I love the bokke.... they wasted valuable points on Sunday. Now is the time to re-align, re-asses and have a common goal in mind - that is to become the next World Champions in 2015, win the Tri-Nations and any other game played. The time has come to takae back your rightfull place as Childhood heroes and champions. You have played one hell of a worldcup Bokke, and for that I salute you.