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Div defends Bok game plan

2011-08-29 22:04

Cape Town - Springbok coach Peter de Villiers is not worried about a lack of invention in his team's game plan as they head into the World Cup.

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The coach promised the Boks would play a more attractive brand when he took over the reigns in January 2008, after Jake White's contract was not renewed after winning the 2007 World Cup.

But that promise has come to nought, with the South Africans still employing a conservative, risk-free approach of kick, chase and defend.

However, criticism against his dull approach does not bother De Villiers in the slightest. In fact, he believes the Boks' two main contenders - the Wallabies and the All Blacks - have also not evolved much in their game plans over the last four years.

"There was not really anything new in the way the Wallabies or the All Blacks have played over the last four years," De Villiers told the Beeld newspaper.

"The Wallabies brought in two new moves from the scrums, with one of the moves from a middle-scrum (position).

"The All Blacks have brought in one new move, also from a scrum. Therefore, I am not worried that we have fallen behind. In fact, I believe we have exactly the right pattern for the tournament," said De Villiers.

The coach also said that they have put their recent 18-5 victory over New Zealand behind them and are now fully focusing on the World Cup.

He says everything worked out 100% for them, and apart from some injuries, he is "a very satisfied coach".

Sport24

Comments
  • StBad - 2011-08-29 22:14

    Ya that's right, Quade Cooper, Will Genia, Kurtley Beale and James O'Connor have sent the Wallabies game back into the stone age! Come on PdV????

      DavesRave - 2011-08-30 04:41

      I understand Div's comment to be about gameplans and not about individual players

      Marx - 2011-08-30 07:23

      The thing is we have stuck with our game plan, so we don't need to adapt for the WC, only thing left to do is to go enforce that game plan and bring back the Gold. Go Bokke!!!

      Fikile - 2011-08-30 09:10

      Defence rules

      RL - 2011-08-30 09:40

      @davesrave it doesnt matter what div says the bigots always hear what they want ...

  • FJ2 - 2011-08-29 22:16

    Don't agree with your analysis of the AB's and Wallabies, but then I haven't studied it as closely as I suppose the Bok management has. As for our gameplan: stick to what you know and execute it well.

      slg - 2011-08-29 23:39

      Div studies the scrambled world that he sees, unfortunately

  • herb77@24.com - 2011-08-29 22:20

    Well I am a little worried, but hope Div is right. I hope our guys are fit enough to tackle and defend their way to the final and I hope Schalk and J Fourie are on top of their game. At least we know now that this style of rugby can win games. So I am wearing green and cheering our team. Go Bokke.

  • BardofAvon - 2011-08-29 22:40

    Go Springbulls! Just pretend it's another Super 14!

      Henni Apple - 2011-08-30 05:28

      but they have much better coaches than now. the coach is the key to the success of any team

      vallemj@24.com - 2011-08-30 08:20

      Please don't pretend it's another Super 15 or Currie Cup for that matter, I don't want to end 7th.

  • Lean - 2011-08-29 22:43

    Dont Agree with some of the comments, But I Do agree that is the Style that has historically won the World Cup. But Defense is a main ingredient here. Leak a few tries and with this style you stand no chance at all. Whereas the All Blacks and Wallabies could come back.

      BardofAvon - 2011-08-30 03:36

      Yes, Lean, I think you are quite right, old sport. If it hadn't been for Jacque Fourie and Bryan Habana's theatrics we could easily have been 14-0 down in as many minutes in the PE game. Next time the Boks might not be so "lucky'.

  • BokSharky - 2011-08-29 22:52

    Coachy we all behind u and our team -Just please choose fit and the inform player on match date we will do ok ...................................We invented the rush defence just perfect that as we progressive through the tournament and play the situation presented to u on the field

  • The Goose - 2011-08-29 22:56

    Leave the defending for the defence coach.If SA has to adapt to the aus and nz style of play, all of it would look the same.Some variation in tactical set pieces and play gives the game, IMO an exciting edge\spin.News24 kan gerus beter berigte publiseer.

  • Rightway - 2011-08-29 22:58

    Our team plays outdated and boring Rugby. Even if its wining Rugby by luck... who wants to watch it? Australia and the AB play exciting Rugby. We can also play that way but we are too scared to lose. So we play trying not to loose. They play trying to win. Our wings don,t know what a Rugby ball feels like. They are all ways defending. When will they start attacking against the stronger teams? At least Man U knows how to score.

      EXBULL - 2011-08-29 23:21

      I bet when the boks take to the field on the 11th of September there will be about 40million people in South Africa wanting to watch them. I would much rather see them play boring rugby and win than running wild and losing. Why deviate from what you do best? Does anyone from Man U know what it feels like to lift the William Webb Ellis trophy?

      Jackool - 2011-08-30 00:22

      There are many ways of playing the game, and I quite like the way the Boks play the game. A top wrestler is as exciting to watch as a top sprinter. Spingbok matches, besides the days when they leave their game at home, are always grueling, intimidating, persevering wrestling matches with awesome power...and I like that lot. I also find everybody wanting to play AB Brand rugby quite boring.

      jase880 - 2011-08-30 02:55

      It may be boring in theory, but there is nothing boring about winning. The truth is that no matter how they have tried to change rugby through law variations, when it comes to do or die situations (i.e. World Cups) there is only one way to win: defend, win the rucks, win the lineouts, win the scrums and kick accurately. The ABs may have a more attractive brand of rugby but that just doesn't win World Cups because when that tournament starts, every other team suddenly defends as if their life depended on it so the type of rugby that worked before the World Cup is nullified. Springboks have the right plan - it's just a matter of how well they execute it.

      Mags_24 - 2011-08-30 08:05

      You cant please everyone, when he tried to change the way we play he was shot down by the media and public, and it was called "helter-skelter" rugby. Now that he is back to what people wanted i.e "structured rugby" and theres still complaints.

      Jeff - 2011-08-30 08:58

      @EXBULL- Couldn't said it better bro' @Jackool- Fully agree with you! The problem with most SA's is that they never want to be leaders, they just want to be followers. Why should the Boks play like AB/AUS???? Let us play our game and who knows, they might just follow us, which will make us the leaders. And thats what i like about PDiv, he follows his own plan and he knows and believe in his players to execute the stategies. I am sure our Bok team is the best and can play any game plan on any day, but for now, lets just stick to what we do best. Who knows, maybe we will see another form of rugby from the Boks, to surprise the opponents, as all of them expect the kicking game.... One last thing: To me it doesn't matter what rugby they play, as long as they win. And if they lose........ so what!!!! It's not the end of the world. Go Bokke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Razz-ma-Tazz - 2011-08-30 09:22

      @Rightway..... You are spot on. I fully agree the Boks play outdated Rugby. They are not innovative. They still play the same game like their hero's of the 70:s when I started watching rugby. See how many balls do they kick away instead of running with the ball. Remember you cannot score without the ball. You can only kick penalties.

  • slg - 2011-08-29 23:09

    That's easy: there's nothing to defend. It's a jumble of disparate ideas randomly cobbled together.

      BardofAvon - 2011-08-30 03:41

      Yes, sig, old sport... cobbled together by Bulls players in key positions... and a smattering of other brilliant men. Methinks this is a fine team indeed.

      slg - 2011-08-30 06:57

      They're not up to it, Bard. They're not fit enough nor do they have the top coaching needed to win a tournament of this nature.

  • pieter.raubenheimer - 2011-08-29 23:32

    I agree that Bok style of world cup rugby is effective, BUT - when last did our famous centre-pair breach an Aussie or All Black line of defense? It is also great to be confident, but P Divvy should at least TRY to be less arrogant.

  • Mark Stevenson - 2011-08-29 23:33

    We all know that he is going to use the INJURY excuse if we don't win the WC. Problem is that is what happens when you take some many older players and you did nothing to create a NEW team after JW. Exatcly WHAT did this guy do since he took over other then push as far as he could with JW's team??? Now I am all for the BOKS but Div will see what NS and Aus have been doing over the last 4 years whne we meet them in the WC. Don't forget that if it was not for 3 forward passes we would have had our a..es kicked in PE as they broke our line again and again!

      EXBULL - 2011-08-29 23:48

      What is all this talk about creating a "new" team. Do you think any other coach would have overlooked Victor Matfield, Bakkies Botha, Schalk Burger, Jaque Fourie, Bryan Habanna and the Du Plessis brothers just for the sake of creating a new team. PDV took the best players that was available to him and now everyone has a problem with it. Aus and NZ have always played the style of rugby they play and yet, we have always found a way to beat them........and while we're talking about "what ifs".........what if our first choice boks had a few more games together before we met Australia in Durban?

      HueyPNewton - 2011-08-30 07:35

      By the same token, what did JW do other than push as far as he could with Straeuli's and Mallet's teams? Schalk, Matfield, Smit, Percy, Bakkies, Os, Butch, CJ, Jaco, etc. were all capped before JW's time.

  • Neutralist - 2011-08-30 02:09

    The statement about game plans De Villiers made here are non-true, rather than untrue

  • flat bier - 2011-08-30 02:28

    How many new moves have the Boks brought in Divvi?

  • Robert - 2011-08-30 02:43

    Do the Boks have a game plan? ,and how many moves have they brought in since div has been coaching?. I have noticed that the guys who run on with the drink bottles are running from different angles on the side line

      BardofAvon - 2011-08-30 03:47

      Robert, Div knows he can't coach clever, so he's just using the tried-and-tested Bulls' method of kick, chase, pause, enjoy. Nothing wrong with that, right?

  • Rory - 2011-08-30 04:55

    no wonder so many of our players are injured. We insist on playing crash and bash rugby. we will win the odd tri nations game here and there , but we moving backwards in our rugby....would love to see John MItchell coach the bokke .....

  • Henni Apple - 2011-08-30 05:14

    same idiot that telling everyone we will win the trinations with a whitewash and we were nearly whitewashed when we lost most games. what a waste to listen to an moron because he proved to know nothing about rugby but maybe that is what the anc want to destroy everything in SA including sport.

      Daniel - 2011-08-30 09:13

      Indeed. What a waste to listen to an moron.

  • Ozman - 2011-08-30 06:16

    Aussie-Aussie-Aussie

      OutbackJack - 2011-08-30 07:20

      Oi Oi Oi

  • Bigboet - 2011-08-30 07:21

    The game plan might not have changed but the execution of moves and running lines has improved by NZ n Wallabies, SA still try to bash through the other players, just ask Wynand Olivier.

  • BRAKKENJAN STORMER - 2011-08-30 07:22

    Pdv is watching the Flintstones.They have more brains than him.

      Razz-ma-Tazz - 2011-08-30 09:29

      By the looks of it, I don't think you has much more than him.

  • OutbackJack - 2011-08-30 07:23

    The Bok's game plan is to hope the opposition make a mistake and pray for an intercept try or to win by drops and penalies. Other than that, well there is nothing really.

      MaestroX - 2011-08-30 09:22

      Unfortunately i have to agree with an Aussie!! To say kicking away hard won possesion is "risk free" is brain dead!!! You are kicking your possesion into the hands of players of the caliber of the Aussie and AB back line, glad you think that's "risk free"!!!!

  • Ryan Tunney - 2011-08-30 07:32

    I can't wait for this ANC idiot to be removed as coach after the World Cup. This must be the most irritaitng poopall to ever caoch the Springboks.

  • draaft - 2011-08-30 07:56

    If anyone scores a try in a knock out because of Bryan Habana's slow motion epic fail intercept attempts, and we lose the game, no person in this country should respect him ever again. Yes he's done great things, but in the recent past hes done much to erase the memory of those things. He is so amazing when he goes for the tackles instead. I've watched him live at Loftus his entire Bulls career and every time he goes for the tackle he makes it, but only 1 out of 20 times he goes for the intercept he gets it, all other 19 times the opposition crosses the advantage line and then some. So as long as Bryan NOT going for intercepts is in the game plan, I'm very happy.

      Jeff - 2011-08-30 09:23

      @Draaft- If any-one with the name "draaft" ever writes such crab again, the editor should delete his comment and no person in this country should respect him.... HAHAHA!! Rugby is a team sport bro'. If Morne let his opponent pass the ball to the centre, and if JDiv let his opponent pass the ball to the outside centre, and if JFourie let his opponent gets the ball to the wing.... then what you want to tell me is that all of this is HABANA'S fault????????? Go get yourself a Looney toons script and try to understand that..... Because if i understand you correct, then it means the whole backline should not be respected!!!!!! Oh, i almost forgot about the scrumhalf and the whole scrum, who perhaps allowed the opposition to got the ball from the scrum........... Eish, please give me some "YS"

  • henk v - 2011-08-30 08:07

    not difficult to defend a plan of there is no plan, isnt it div?

  • Shnez - 2011-08-30 08:54

    over confidence perhaps???!!!

  • levit8 - 2011-08-30 08:59

    So if we know all the AB and Wallaby moves, how is it that we couldn't defend against them in the first 2 games of the Tri Nations ?

      Jeff - 2011-08-30 09:30

      Reason is simple levit8. They were better than us. I also have a question 4u: Why did we beat the AB in PE if the AB knows our kicking game plan, huh??? Not difficult to answer, as i already gave you da answer....

  • ReinieR - 2011-08-30 08:59

    I don't know what everyone's issue is.... Our style of play wins trophies.... If it is not broken... Why fix it... GO BOKKE!!!!!

  • Adrian Murray - 2011-08-30 09:15

    DiV got lucky with a NZ B side, so now he thinks he has a winning game plan...come on! He needs to wise up; his Morne has slow hands, untested backline combo's and the new game has evolved to passing through the tackle zone. The real sides of this tournament are versatile on unstructured attack and penetrate past the gain line with depth linking in with off the ball runners - if DiV has not understood this we are in major trouble.

      Jeff - 2011-08-30 15:08

      Ady my boy, wake up and smell the coffee. AB & AUS got lucky with our "half-B half-C" team... (and the rest of my sentence i would like to quote you) "so now they thinks they has a winning game plan...come on!!!!!!

  • Adrian Murray - 2011-08-30 09:16

    DiV got lucky with a NZ B side, so now he thinks he has a winning game plan...come on! He needs to wise up; his Morne has slow hands, untested backline combo's and the new game has evolved to passing through the tackle zone. The real sides of this tournament are versatile on unstructured attack and penetrate past the gain line with depth linking in with off the ball runners - if DiV has not understood this we are in major trouble.

  • PDP - 2011-08-30 09:23

    What gameplan?

  • Adrian Murray - 2011-08-30 09:24

    DiV got lucky with a NZ B side, so now he thinks he has a winning game plan...come on! He needs to wise up; his Morne has slow hands, untested backline combo's and the new game has evolved to passing through the tackle zone. The real sides of this tournament are versatile on unstructured attack and penetrate past the gain line with depth linking in with off the ball runners off the ball. DiV has not understood this we are in major trouble.

  • Adrian Murray - 2011-08-30 09:26

    DiV got lucky with a NZ B side, so now he thinks he has a winning game plan...come on! He needs to wise up; his Morne has slow hands, untested backline combo's and the new game has evolved to passing through the tackle zone. The real sides of this tournament are adaptable on unstructured attack and penetrate past the gain line with depth linking in with off the ball runners - if DiV has not understood this we are in major trouble. Thats my take on things.

  • G54 - 2011-08-30 09:44

    Outback Jack sums it up perfectly. That is how the Boks won in 2009 and how they won in 2007. The 2007 final was the most boring in recent memory. Who is crazy enough to pay good money to watch boring rugby?! It will be bad for rugby if the Boks make it past the quarters. PdV, like Jake White is simply copying the Bulls' game plan.

      Jeff - 2011-08-30 15:02

      G54, i am a Bok supporter and will always defend them wherever-possible and by means of facts. I am so glad that you mention the wins of the boks. Are you a south african?? Do you support the Boks?? If so, would you like to see your team win?? So my final question: Would you pay to watch boring rugby and be crowned as the WORLD CHAMPIONS, or pay to watch Exciting rugby and never won???? Well G54, in fact i dont think the boks will feel the loss in money if you don't go and pay to watch their games.... So i suggest you stay at home and watch the discovery channel. I would like to create a scenario: Both teams defend well, 100%, no tries conceded. Who is going to win???? Can the other teams come up with a solution????? Of coz they can, all they need to do is watch the video's of the Bok games and play the SPRINGBOK game plan(KICKING)........Im not saying that this always pays off, but when executed at the right time, you can win(LIKE THE BOKS) I mean the Boks has proven to us that this kicking game is a master plan when it is done by masters. Naas, Joel (1995), Jannie de Beer, Percy Montgomery, Braam van straten, Morne steyn to name a few... By the way, the final of 1995, who played the most exiting rugby??????????????????? And who won it?????? Remember it doesnt matter how you make your coffee, it will still taste the same, providing your ingredients and amounts are exactly the same. So my chalenge to all, lets see who's g-plan will work-out for them this coming WC...

  • Straightdeal - 2011-08-30 09:46

    Some game plan. Get 30-35% possession, kick most of that away, don't kick the ball out and then forced to defend like men possessed. Hope Steyn kicks a couple over. The best game plan is attack, ask Man U!

  • Adrian Murray - 2011-08-30 10:21

    DiV got lucky with a NZ B side, so now he thinks he has a winning game plan...come on! He needs to wise up; his Morne has slow hands, untested backline combo's and the new game has evolved to passing through the tackle zone. The real sides of this tournament are adaptable on unstructured attack and penetrate past the gain line with depth linking in with off the ball runners - if DiV has not understood this we are in major trouble.

  • Adrian Murray - 2011-08-30 10:26

    DiV got lucky with a NZ B side, so now he thinks he has a winning game plan...come on! He needs to wise up; his Morne has slow hands, untested backline combo's and the new game has evolved to passing through the tackle zone. The real sides of this tournament are adaptable on unstructured attack and penetrate past the gain line with depth linking in with off the ball runners - if DiV has not understood this we are in major trouble.

  • Alfa - 2011-08-30 10:35

    It is very sad to see the Boks play this brand of rugby. At super 15 and curry cup level our franchises are playing really good atttractive rugby. These are the same guys that play in the green jersey. Its clear that the coaching staff chooses to play boring 'winning' rugby when they have the players moulded to play fast paced running rugby. I live in hope that we will get a coach one day with balls to change Bok rugby to the modern game. Its proven our players have the necessary skills to play attractive rugby.

  • Max - 2011-08-30 11:55

    Its not a God given right that every team should play NZ way or philosophy when it comes to rugby,for an example in soccer no team can play the way Barcelona plays because they have the players for their system and they bought into the team philosophy of playing football same like NZ and now here at home we have players who believe in their OWN philosophy because they feel superior in terms of physicality and they want to impose that superiority into other teams or grind them into submission and it works for us because we have the players for OUR systems and we produce those kind of players regularly,i am not saying our players should have blinkers and not adjust in the filed of play but there's an underlying fact and that is we must embrace our style of play because its what we believe in and its who we are...

      Jeff - 2011-08-30 15:31

      Max jy's a yster ou maat, kry vir ons a asblik sodat ons al hierdie plastiek sakke (Negative comments) kan daar in gooi. Wat gaan aan met die mense dat almal nou wil hĂȘ die bokke moet soos AB/AUS speel? I have a very exciting way of going to work each and every morning. Mondays i walk, Tues i drive with my X5, Wed i go with my ZX10r, Thur i fly with my 2seater chopper and on Fri I make use of the Gautrain. Now if that is not exciting than i don't know! So all of you who wants the Boks to Play the other teams exciting game plan, why dont you copy my exciting way of going to work every morning??????

  • Adrian Murray - 2011-08-30 14:12

    GO DIV!

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