Losing shouldn't be an option

2011-09-21 09:54

Auckland - Tournament heavyweights South Africa and New Zealand took umbrage on Wednesday at suggestions they would ever purposefully lose matches so to manipulate results at the Rugby World Cup.

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Following Australia's shock loss to Ireland last weekend the draw has thrown up the possibility of a northern versus southern hemisphere final and there have been suggestions some teams may try to avoid harder paths to the final by losing games.

But that has gone down like a lead balloon with teams, particularly two-time World Cup winners South Africa and tournament favourites New Zealand.

"Absolutely, not even a question about it. It would be preposterous to even suggest anything otherwise," aghast Springboks forwards coach Gary Gold said.

"Every World Cup winner in the past has won every game that they have participated in the competition. That's a key significant factor to winning and we realise that.

"That's why the Springboks over the last number of World Cups have an 88 percent win record and under no circumstances would it even be considered that anything else other than winning all the way to the end is what's going to be required."

All Blacks assistant coach Steve Hansen was equally as adamant when the question was put to him on Wednesday.

"We'd get hung from the highest tree in New Zealand if we go out and try to lose a Test match. It's just not in our psyche," Hansen said.

"New Zealanders expect the All Blacks to go out and play the best they can, whoever it is."

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  • Anneleen - 2011-09-21 10:28

    Springbokke purposefully losing matches? That just does not add up... ...go Bokke, and add to your winning streak!!!

  • SA-FAN - 2011-09-21 10:53

    These are two world class teams I doubt it that they will step to that low level.

      battle4truth - 2011-09-21 11:09

      yes so was the proteas : ( unfortunately it's more about money and entertainment than honour.

  • THE BEAST - 2011-09-21 11:00

    Come on Boks. Loose the last game and avoid the Ausis and the All Blacks. This way you are guaranteed a successful defence of the world cup.

      Johnny-BB - 2011-09-21 11:06

      ...2011 World Champions = All Blacks..!! .......Go All Blacks...!!!

      JustinD - 2011-09-21 11:09

      No beast, rather go out to win every game. If we cant beat the Aussies and NZ should they cross our path then we dont deserve to be world champs. I say bring on anyone, we will prevail.

      battle4truth - 2011-09-21 11:16

      excellent strategy, who would remember a pool loss, when winning the worldcup in the end?

      Jack Turner - 2011-09-21 11:44

      It sounds "Bull s*@ "..... but you are 100% correct. Its our only chance of possibly making the final. We have a mountain to climb, going the Aussie & N.Z Route, which in all our minds is impossible.....

      FJ2 - 2011-09-21 14:07

      Losing on purpose is for losers like The Beast. As for the winners of this cup, it will not be the All Blacks and they've got Johny-BB to blame - he put the jinx on them, 'cause he's never right in his predictions.

      Dev and Ilze Britton - 2011-09-21 14:39

      You don't realise that if the Bokke did that, the consensus would be that they are scared of the AB's and Aus. Taking a mindset of fear into the final against one of those teams would guarantee our defeat!!! Aside from the fact that I personally think anyone who so much as suggest such chicanery should be drawn and quartered for High Treason!!!!

      RandomDude - 2011-09-21 19:55

      Beast what is the point ? The point of the event is to win the bragging right to call yourself the champion of the world . If you try and avoid competition you can't call yourself that?

  • StBad - 2011-09-21 11:22

    Fishing journo's, nothing more...

  • Lance - 2011-09-21 11:37

    Ths Springok side does not have to worry about losing anything.

      Jack Turner - 2011-09-21 11:51

      Wow.......Bold stetement Lance......If you had to have a bet....Would you back the Boks...?. Remember when you back a horse, you want it to win...not run second.....rather stay out of the race. The Boks cant win this one.....With my heart yes, but not with my money..............

      Rugganut - 2011-09-21 12:17

      @JT...we have an incredible squad and if utulised correctly (i.e. right mix for each match), we will beat any team. There is a mixture of older more experienced players and young talented players, in the forwards and in the backs. These are the 3 main reasons that I know we could beat any team. 1) Look at our forwards...both starting 8 and the reserves. a) Some reserves are actually BETTER than the starting 8!!!! b) At any one time we could field 3 ball poachers (Brussouw, Bismarck & Louw) and even the World XV would not be able to beat them!!!! c) A lot of them are versatile and can play well, in more than 1 position! What other team can boast a former RWC winner in their extended squad of 30 (CJ is backup for Tendai, Jannie & Gurthro for goodness sake)????!!!!! 2) Look at our backs...points a & c for the forwards could be said about the backs. 3) The last and most important reason for my belief in this squad and our chances, is - Rassie and Nienaber. Rassie is able to tell you what each player offers and based on those observations, the selectors then know 1) which BOK players gel together and 2) which BOK players are the right choice for a specific opponent. He is also has great insight into how an adversary should be beaten. Nienaber...well you can see the results for yourself. Our defense is impressive to say the least and for those doubters out there...dont forget that it has not only been effective in the RWC so far but also against the AB's in PE

      Lance - 2011-09-21 14:01

      Jack, after last week seeing us swing the ball as good as the Aussies(yes they swing it good..)..I feel our skill level, team syncronicity and raw physical presence on attack and defense cant be matched. Having two reliable kickers on the field in the form of the Steyn's just ads more to our attack.. Its hard to imagine this team losing which also has nerves of steel under pressure.

  • hermanschuch - 2011-09-21 11:48

    Just think if the AB's loose to France (as they always do in RWC's). The Springboks will face them in the final! Now that will be a good final! Come on you AB's loose one for the good of the game! The Springboks can’t loose to Samoa even if they tried! Go France!!! Go Bokke to beat AB’s in the final!

  • Lida - 2011-09-21 12:04

    I am proud South African, so are the boks. My money IS on them. Don`t be such an oddball Jack Turner. Be a proud positive supporter.

      RandomDude - 2011-09-21 20:34

      Ruck, you're in no position to make statements like that. How could you possibly speak for South Africans around the world ? And the SA history dig is so very lame . I guess no one in Europe has a right to feel proud of their nation then? How about Americans , Australians or Canadians ? There is no nation in the world that can claim the moral high ground. Here's the thing, I'm not responsible for the actions of those who came before me , I'm responsible for my own actions and I feel no shame or guilt for things I had no part in or control over.

  • leonard.w.gray - 2011-09-21 13:44

    we have to lose to win the world cup! why play aus and nz to get to the final? we would never beat those 2 teams in a row, never.

      FJ2 - 2011-09-21 14:09

      We've done it before, we'll do it again.

  • Brent - 2011-09-21 14:07

    Maybe not purposely losing matches but what about fielding the B team for Samoa with instructions to take it easy ala Tri-Nations style....??? AB's in 1995 purposely had a low key preparation before the world cup in an attempt to lull opposition into complacency.

      BlueRaven - 2011-09-21 16:00

      Brent how can I put this to you.... NO! We must win every game in this world cup. Losing is not an options.

  • Jacques Ackermann - 2011-09-21 22:57

    we play against the AB and aussies every year. we know them better than any other team in the world. so i cant believe that there are people that are willing to risk throwing a game for the sake of a easy path. ireland england and the frence are not easy. they are great at one off games. we might run into them at the peak of the power and then what you sit with you hands on your face wondering what happend. dont be a plonker. we can take anyone on the day. winning is a habbit just like losing. the aussies are at panic stations at the moment and they are leaderless so they can be taken. the AB will choke because they play one gear rugby. as soon as they can score there tries they start to choke. WE CAN TAKE THEM... stop this corrupt ideas and leave that to goverment.

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