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Boks scrape past gritty Wales

2011-09-11 11:24

Wellington - South Africa got the defence of their World Cup crown off to a shaky start with an unconvincing 17-16 victory over Wales here on Sunday.

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The Springboks, featuring 16 members of the victorious 2007 squad in the match-day squad, with 11 in the starting 15, allowed the Welsh to dominate possession and the win was far from guaranteed in a tight match.

Tries from Francois Steyn and Francois Hougaard, along with Morné Steyn kicking two conversions and a penalty, were enough to outdo a Welsh side for whom Toby Faletau scored a sole try and James Hook kicked 11 points.

"It's going to be a most valuable lesson for us getting out of a pretty sticky situation," said Springboks skipper John Smit. "There's a bit of work to do but we are pretty delighted with the way this evening went."

Welsh counterpart Sam Warburton said the loss was a big disappointment.

"We were quietly confident all week but just came up short. We played really well but we didn't quite get that victory."

The game started in the worst possible manner for Wales, South Africa piling on the pressure before Morné Steyn flung out a pass to Francois, with the Bok fullback driving his way over Shane Williams and Hook into the corner for a third-minute try the former converted.

But the Welsh then proceeded to dominate proceedings, centre Jamie Roberts back to his block-busting self in midfield.

South Africa were happy to soak up the pressure, Schalk Burger and Heinrich Brüssow producing a series of hard-hitting tackles to enforce an iron grip on their rush defence, and Francois Steyn easing things with his booming punts.

Hook got Wales on the scoreboard with a 10th minute penalty but narrowly missed an easier second penalty, even though he might have reason to complain as the kick did appear to go over.

Morné Steyn made no mistake with his first penalty, however, while Hook also banged over his third effort in the 31st minute.

Steyn and Welsh counterpart Rhys Priestland then both went wide with two ambitious drop goal efforts just before half-time as the pressure told after a tiring first 40 minutes.

The second-half started with Wales again dominating possession and the Springboks seemingly happy to step back and defend.

Hook took Wales to within one point of the Boks with a third successful penalty after Butch James strayed offside in front of his own posts.

And then Wales scored through Tonga-born No 8 Faletau, who crashed over after a neatly slipped pass from Priestland after 53 minutes.

Hook converted to make it 16-10 to the Welsh and the Springboks suddenly looked to be on the rack, missed tackles and handling errors to the fore.

Faletau burst through two tackles and offloaded to Roberts who bullocked his way to the line, only to knock on in the tackle.

But South Africa were not out of it, retaking the lead after replacement wing Hougaard popped up in midfield for a soft try under the posts, converted by Steyn, with 15 minutes to play.

It was not over, however, with Wales having two clear chances to take the lead back and only a second victory in 26 meetings with South Africa.

First Priestland skewed a drop goal from in front of the posts and then Hook went wide with a tricky penalty from wide out.

Scorers:


South Africa:

Tries: Francois Steyn, Francois Hougaard

Conversions: Morné Steyn (2)

Penalty: Steyn

Wales:

Try: Toby Faletau

Conversion: James Hook

Penalties: Hook (3)

Teams:


South Africa:
15 Frans Steyn, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Schalk Burger, 6 Heinrich Brüssow, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 Danie Rossouw, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 John Smit (captain), 1 Tendai Mtawarira

Substitutes: 16 Bismarck du Plessis, 17 Gurthro Steenkamp, 18 CJ van der Linde, 19 Johann Muller, 20 Willem Alberts, 21 Francois Hougaard, 22 Butch James

Wales:
15 James Hook, 14 George North, 13 Jonathan Davies, 12 Jamie Roberts, 11 Shane Williams, 10 Rhys Priestland, 9 Mike Phillips, 8 Toby Faletau, 7 Sam Warburton (captain), 6 Dan Lydiate, 5 Luke Charteris, 4 Alun Wyn Jones, 3 Adam Jones, 2 Huw Bennett, 1 Paul James

Substitutes: 16 Lloyd Burns, 17 Ryan Bevington, 18 Bradley Davies, 19 Andy Powell, 20 Tavis Knoyle, 21 Scott Williams, 22 Leigh Halfpenny

AFP

Comments
  • Jackool - 2011-09-11 11:26

    hulle is vandag weer nie lus vir rugby speel nie

      TheMagician - 2011-09-11 12:16

      john smit was a spectator once again today contributing f0k0l... same with habana.... from now on i hope the coaches have caught a wake up call and start with bismark and hougaard.... our best starting 15....

      Mark Stevenson - 2011-09-11 12:19

      Lucky, but we won and I just hope they realize now that we NEED these inform players to win and not the has-beens so just play them from the start!!!! If we don’t we will not see the semi’s!!!

      EuropeanAfrican - 2011-09-11 12:26

      Du Preez, Habanna and Smit should take the first plane back to SA.

      Mark Stevenson - 2011-09-11 12:29

      Don't forget Pieterse EuropeanAfrican!!! Man he had no idea!

      Jackool - 2011-09-11 12:41

      Wales was very, very unlucky to loose that game. No justice at all. The Boks got away with murder and really played with no interest or intent. What do you tell these guy to get them to go and play to win?

      nzbro - 2011-09-11 12:41

      Err just a question for sport24 here: if you called the All blacks 41-10 Tonga win a stumble..pray tell what do you call the boks 17-16 win with no ball possesion and the stats all in wales favour.? If wales got those 2 penalties and 1 conversion over it would have been wales 25- boks 17 ! key players injured too. Wales were the deserved winners here for sure.

      Barry Edwards - 2011-09-11 13:04

      We got out of jail and only just. Great effort by Wales Injuries aside I think we are going to have few changes in the starting line up. Du Plessis for Smit ? Hougaart for Habana ? Morne Styen for James ?

      Barry Edwards - 2011-09-11 13:07

      I mean James for Morne

      Theo - 2011-09-11 13:09

      Smit you were pathetic, please do the honorable think and step down , Bismarck raised the tempo the minute he came on.

      Jackool - 2011-09-11 13:25

      Great to see players of all color in the South African team can play equally kåk rugby.

      GraemeBB - 2011-09-11 13:25

      @Barry - Morne for Butch? Pfff

      Hardekwas - 2011-09-11 13:32

      John Smit is useless!!!

      Rugganut - 2011-09-11 13:33

      nzbro - You are seriously comparing Tonga to a Welsh team that won 2 out of their 3 warm up games leading into this WC, beating England convincingly in one of those games!! Save the arrogance until after the final whistle of the final...history does not favour your team at all at the WC. It is more embarassing that NZ get knocked out of the WC by the frogs every tournament!!!!

      dominik - 2011-09-11 13:57

      nzbro. a win is a win. you all blacks should just be happy that we have to try compete with you guys with all the political interference we have. remember we used to beat you guys more than you beat us, before the isolation. i would love to know how strong we can be with a coach of the caliber you guys and aus have, without any inference.

      Barry Edwards - 2011-09-11 14:29

      @nzbro..if this and that happenned. It DID NOT happen. Yes we go out of jail. I think our experienced players helped us do that. The only way the AB get out of jail is look to Richie Mc Cheat and follow him.

      Travis - 2011-09-11 14:30

      Morne Steyn is a disaster. He leaked defense like a sieve. Pierre Spies was a spectator too. As soon as the loosies were changed, the game changed. Even Beast was quiet.

      Thouca - 2011-09-11 14:59

      wales played excellent today and their boot gifted us the game...and we were perhaps ok......but dont understimate just how well the welsh effort was .....their performance today would have beat most top 5 teams........

      OZNOB - 2011-09-11 16:02

      I THINK they were playing juskei though i am not sure what the welsh were playing

      jan du preeaz - 2011-09-11 16:28

      barry are you insane, james is even more useless!!

      Maarten - 2011-09-11 16:42

      Before the game i said that Smit and Burger where going to be our biggest liabillity. I forgot about Habana, Pietersen, Francois Stein and "knock on Fourie". The forwards had a good 40 minutes. But we need 80 minutes! Thatbsaid, well done Wales. You guys played by far the better game of Rugby.

      Jackool - 2011-09-11 16:45

      Did anybody notice the Boks scoring not one, but two tries, against tough opponents. Looking for positives in todays no show.

      Spyker May - 2011-09-11 17:07

      I would say at least half of the team that started do not belong there – too many 'name-and-shame' here... You can almost forgive Francois Hougaard his ONE indiscretion – mostly as he was trying to undo ANOTHER pathetic cock-up by (another) oupa – ie Fourie Du Preez. We should have started ‘blooding’ new players in 2008 already – but this would require a head coach with... ... ye well, you guessed it.., A HEAD... Right now.., I would say, let us just enjoy the next few SAcan games in NZ, because frankly.., this one is going to be worse than in 1999...

      Steyts - 2011-09-11 19:22

      Wow boys, the negativitty is amazing!! First and biggest game of the pool stages and we have 4 points in the bag. It wasnt't good but at least we have the win. I believe the boks will pick up their game from here. Habana had nothing to do because Morne Steyn only kicks the ball and the up and unders were way off target. Smit must be on the sidelines and Fourie du Preez needs to pick up his game otherwise we are in trouble come the play offs... Otherwise, rather be positive because I know these boys can do it! Get behind the boys!! GO BOKKE!!!!!!

      Henk - 2011-09-11 20:18

      If you look closely at the try from Whales, you will see that the pass was forward! Justice served! Time for Bizzie, Brussow, Burger and the Bone Collector!

  • sipholess - 2011-09-11 11:34

    Bokke we need more intensity, come on boys, I've got money on you.

      sipholess - 2011-09-11 12:26

      Well done boys, group stages only require the win, the welsh dragon is 'nt blowing fire it's sucking up the loss. A good return on my money. BOKKE !!!!!!!!!!

      LUFC - 2011-09-11 12:50

      id trade that off and put it on aus

      nzbro - 2011-09-11 12:58

      @ sipholess I disagree with you on "group stages only require the win" If you a minnow team like romania /namibia etc then yes you only require the win but if you are the reigning & defending RWC champions then just a win is not good enough. You need to make an absolute and clear statement to the title challengers with a decisive win. That separates champions from the rest. This poor performance and narrow win however says that the rwc champs title is now up for grabs by anybody who can play the same as wales rated as No 6.

      scipio - 2011-09-11 13:26

      Sipho is correct. I think you're giving Wales far too little credit. SA and England both had a really tough game which they came back from a deficit and won. NZ had a mediocre game with Tonga playing negative rugby by bashing it up through the forwards. NZ was always going to win the Tonga game and they learnt nothing from it. Sorry NZ bro. England and SA got the most out of their Opening games. Neither deserved the win, still they managed it. That's class.

      sipholess - 2011-09-11 13:29

      @nzbro.......Remember 23rd September 2007... SA (30) vs Tonga (25) .Champions win even when they play badly, we did that then and today was no different. Wales are a very good side and would give the other top 5 teams in the world a stern test. I have no doubt that we must improve and I'm sure we will.

      John - 2011-09-11 13:36

      please stop talkin to NZbro, just another south african looking for attention.

      Rugganut - 2011-09-11 13:48

      nzbro - like NZ have done every tournament...racking up cricket scores along the way and then...??...FLUFFING IT BIG TIME IN THE KNOCK-OUT STAGES. A world champ gets up from a knock and wins 2 cups in the last 4 tournaments!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By your last sentence, I know for a fact that you dont watch the rugby played by Northern hemisphere countries. Wales have been very impressive in the build up to this tournament even managing to beat England CONVINCINGLY!! They impressed so much, that Gatland sent us a warning message!!! So that win showed that champion pedigree in the BOK team. What happened in the Tri-Nations this year????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Barry Edwards - 2011-09-11 14:34

      @nzbro...NZ and the AB should not even comment on what it takes to win a WRC. especially in the professional era of the game. They can however give coaching lessons on who the choke on the biggest rugby stage on a regular basis especially against the French

      Thouca - 2011-09-11 15:02

      nzbro....too early to tell yet.....but careful you dont shoot yr mounth too quick here...we are the defending champs and have won 2 out of 4 wc......perhaps hold yr tongue a while longer?

      Werner - 2011-09-11 16:58

      I'm with nzbro on this one. I'm tired of this rubbish 'a win is a win' mentality. I think too many South African supporters are trying to cover up what is blatant for all - with eyes - to see. We're just not good enough at the moment. And this 'peak at the right time' nonsense is rather annoying as well. I'm a diehard SA rugby fan but I'm not as ignorant as some of my fellow supporters are. I'm not betting we'd get past the quarterfinal, and if we do, I am - unfortunately - fairly sure we won't see the final.

  • darren - 2011-09-11 11:49

    All I can say is I want a refund on my flight and game tickets and I haven't even left yet

      Scaramouche - 2011-09-11 15:43

      What did you expect Darren? If SA won 23-3 would you have felt more comfertble? We can still get out of the woods, but it is going to be a brave effort from here on

  • Jenny - 2011-09-11 11:51

    second half - South Africa seem to have lost the plot. Why?

      bliksembende - 2011-09-11 12:50

      want die bokke het op HULLE MOER gekry jenny en hulle kon dit nie glo nie..

  • diplomat - 2011-09-11 12:16

    amper!! Is this the best the Springboks can do? Not good enough.

  • Roy - 2011-09-11 12:17

    Yes we "won" but only just. We have to many walking crocks in the team and the few that must do the job all look tired.

  • Logoll - 2011-09-11 12:17

    Smit and Du Preez need to be dropped. Old Fourie is standing with his hands in the air more often then not and his service is just way to slow. We need to play with intensity and speed, neither Smit or Du Preez brings that. The minute Bismark came on it was a different story.

      Logoll - 2011-09-11 12:20

      Forgot to add another player that was nowhere today was Pierre Spies, for all his size and might he was never used it. Look at how Fallatau (spelling) played that is what we need from Spies, but instead he plays like a ballerina. And the last and biggest factor, the ref bloody useless. That last penalty for wales that almost won them the match should have been a penalty to us not to the Welsh.

      hls - 2011-09-12 06:51

      When last was old "twee tree Spies" anywhere? Send him back to PTA so that he can further weaken the bulls team!

  • doctor28 - 2011-09-11 12:17

    Completely outplayed at the breakdown and the forwards outmuscled.. just couldn't get over the advantage line!

  • Woofix - 2011-09-11 12:19

    Die geheim is minder boozeparties die vorige aand. Mens vier gewoonlik die oorwinning nadat die game verby is.

  • Samurai Demo - 2011-09-11 12:19

    OUR 3 FIRST CHOICE LOCKS INJURED-MATFIELD, BAKKIES, BEKKER. JUAN AND JEAN. im a bit worried. our kit sux, compared to 2007. classic game-go boks!

  • nzbro - 2011-09-11 12:20

    the welsh were the better team on the day and would have won were it not for 2 missed penalties and 1 conversion.The boks are in trouble for sure with matfield injured too..Morne was cut out of the play all together.Boks very very very lucky to win by1 point only.

      Uthikoloshe - 2011-09-11 12:36

      Yeah if you follow SA rugby, yoiu will ubderstand our frustration as fans. Assuming you were nutral you think the ref was for SA?

      sipholess - 2011-09-11 12:41

      We were realy bad today and still came up with a win over a very good welsh side. The Boks will get better. Four points in each group game is what we wanted and we got them today. Gatland had a big mouth before the game and a mouth full of teeth afterwards.

      nzbro - 2011-09-11 12:46

      @Uthikoloshe - I think the ref was as fair as can be for both sides perhaps missing one or 2 key offences on both sides which is human. we have an advantage watching 360 degree tv.

      Sean - 2011-09-11 13:10

      nzbro, on the contrary I think Matfield added very little before he went off! He needs to join his mate JS on the bench thinking about retirement. At least when Muller & Alberts came on you had two who at least looked like they wanted to play. Bismark for Smit, Hougaard for Du Preez, Muller for Matfield & Alberst for Spies and any other wing besides Habana. At least we might look like we are interested in playing the game. Like Joost said on OSN about England, too many "show boaters" the same applies to SA.

      dominik - 2011-09-11 14:02

      nzbro, don't come give advice here. this is still early days. remember their is a lot of pressurre on nz and you guys are big chokers. you guys have made big statements before and then lost the really important games

      MB1810 - 2011-09-11 14:24

      The Boks lack intensity, it's one of the biggest problems I've had with them in recent years. As for Wales dominating possession - I shudder to think how different that could have been had we not kicked away so much of it. (I'm awarding a medal to Div for letting the guys play this "gameplan"). Du Preez is far from his best and M Steyn is usually bad when Du Preez is bad as he soaks up a lot of pressure. The guys looked pretty good when they actually played the ball, if I'm not mistaken that happened no more than 2 or 3 times in the second half. The Boks are their own worst enemy, handing possession away as often as they do. Regardless though, that is the way our coach wants them to play and Wales made proper use of that, a better team though would have sunk us 30 minutes into the game and if we end up facing NZ in the semis, we should know that we wont even get close playing like they did today. Winners always want the ball and our team never seem to want it bad enough. As for Mr Barnes, I think he was pretty dreadful, but at least he was dreadful for both sides. As a rule I don't think he blew one penalty for tacklers not releasing the player, he missed a couple of offsides and side entries, but like I said, at least it went both ways.

      burtfred - 2011-09-11 14:38

      Hey NZbro, If my auntie had balls she would be my uncle. The welshman missed the kicks and Steyn did not. Points from kicks count, in case you haven't yet noticed.

      Jigaboo - 2011-09-11 15:02

      @nzbro! as much as it hurts I am afraid you are correct!! I am looking for excuses to defend our boys....erm....erm....oh wait yes.I have one...they beat wales without a coach!!

  • slg - 2011-09-11 12:20

    Four years of weak coaching and planning coming to light now. SA have perhaps a 5% chance of winning the competition. Our players also lack top-drawer fitness and strength. Had we had a top coach, with professional support from SARU, altogether a different story with our players and depth of talent.

      slg - 2011-09-11 12:22

      Crazy coaching is probably more accurate.

  • Azazel - 2011-09-11 12:20

    So close.....but we won thank goodness. Hope this is the wake up call!!! BOKKKKKKKE!

      Andrew - 2011-09-11 14:34

      A wake up call is not the answer, we are not alseep we just play like we are.

      KanaMay - 2011-09-11 21:48

      These very-close games might be more interesting for journalists etc., but some fans like myself do not have a strong heart or blood vessels, you know . . . Thank Goodness the stroke-causing results were averted. BTW, Welsh captain's comment "We were quietly confident ...' ain't exactly true ; they were quite deafening in their criticisms, though it was not quite enough to wake the sleeping (giant) Boks.

  • kjac - 2011-09-11 12:20

    a win is is win. solid defence bokke. lets review and focus on the next game...

      Kaapie - 2011-09-11 13:05

      Yeah but this crap just about defending is rubbish!! You cant win if just want to defend. At some stage the gaps WILL open and against the Aussies and NZ it does happen.

  • Wizard jr - 2011-09-11 12:21

    What a poor performance!!! But well done to a not so deserving win. Doesn't seems like the referee attended the class on the interpretation of the rules.... What is JP doing in the team!!! He is a useless bastard, standing around and only rubbing the opponents instead of putting in proper tackles. I don't even want to mention John "Dom" Smith...Well, I am only a proudly South African supporter and rugby player and hope that De Villiers and the selectors realize their mistakes sooner than later...I just hope that we will up our game... GO BOKKE!!!!!!!!

      markusjoe - 2011-09-11 16:27

      Talk about "Dom" - it's SMIT not SMITH, ffs. Unless you're referring to Juan Smith.

  • ŸÄ±Kleinboet - 2011-09-11 12:23

    @oukoos, fake kleinboet, WPBliksem en ander plankdom idiote soos julle. Se nou ooit, OOIT weer JdV en JF is die beste senterpaar in die wereld en Habana is "special" dan m@er ek julle almal op 'n streep dood. Wat 'n klomp Jokers, Jean die stadigste speler in wereldrugby (hoe lank was hy op, 10min?) hoeveel keer is hulle by JF verby. Hoeveel keer kan Schalk die bal drop??? Dankie tog vir die Bulle wat opgekom het en die game vir ons gesafe het. Fourie na Hogaard en 7 punte!! Go Bulle GO!

      Northern Stormer - 2011-09-11 12:33

      Wel partner kom doen die moer ding sommer nou - Jaag daai verdomde slak Du preez weg en sit Hougaard daar waar hy hoort, kry n losskakel wat kan verdedig want Francois Steyn kan skop en so ook Butch. Vandat JdV af is was die agterlyn useless en as jy mooi gekyk het sou jy sien wie speel aan die binnekant van JF - dis Steyn (ek kan nie tekkle om my gat te red nie - Blou Bul !!!!) Jamie Roberts en Warren Gatland het sy nommer gehad van die 1ste minuut af !!!! Ek kan jou belowe Du Preez was totaal uit sy klas uit - kan niks vang nie, kan nie skrum skoonmaak nie, kan nie duik nie en kan bloot geen game lees nie - daar het die groot probleem begin . Die beste wat hy gedoen het vandag is om in die 81ste mnuut die bal uit te skop !!! . Verander hom en selfs Morne het n kans om te ver-beter. Ek vermoed jy is dalk die koning van die idiote partnet - kyk in die spieel !!!!!!!!!

      Logoll - 2011-09-11 12:33

      Kleinboet, hoeveel keer het F Du Preez op gemors, weet Pierre Spies dit is Rugby en ballet nie. Du Preez is een van die grootste redes hoekom ons dit amper verloor het, check my post hoor op vir die rede. Die groot verandering in die span was toe Pierre Spies en John Smit af gegaan het en replace is met rugby spelers. Ook waar de f was Danie Russouw, die man het niks gedoen nie, En ou Victor ek dink hy dink ook dit is balet want hy spring maar net soos n ballerina en doen niks meer nie. En ek vra mooi kom af kaap toe sodat ons n bietjie sense in jou in kan bliksem want dit is die SPRINGBOKKE nie die vlou nulle nie (wat 6de is in die currie cup btw en nie n wen kan koop nie).

      Northern Stormer - 2011-09-11 12:36

      O-ja en Habana sou ook daai drie van Hougaard gedruk het - miskien net baie vroeer as Hougaard die slak vroeer vervang het !!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-11 12:38

      @Suurstofdief. Jy kan nie eers uit die bed uit m@er nie.

      Logoll - 2011-09-11 12:40

      @Norther Stormer: Ek stem saam as jy die international commentary geluister het sou jy gehoor het seker 5 minute in die game in het hulle dieselfde gese van M Steyn. Die Walliese het sy channel aangeval want hulle het geweet hy kan nie tackle nie. Ek stem ook saam sit vir hougaard in as scrummie en ek se speel vir Aplon op die wing. Meeste van ons probleme was oor Du Preez se besluite gewees. Hoekom gee hy die bal vir M Steyn wat dit net 20 meter verder uit skop terwyl ons F Steyn het wat dit 50m verder terug jaag. Ek sal jou se hoekom want net soos kleinboet hier bo sien hy net blou bulle raak. Hy sal nie die bal vir enige iemand anders gee nie. As dit JP was agter hom in plaas van Hougaard sou hy eerder self gehardloop het.

      Logs01 - 2011-09-11 12:40

      Gee pil in die wereld om "Blou Bul mentaliteit" te fix nie. Siestog

      scipio - 2011-09-11 13:38

      Kleinboet jys n hartseer storie ou maat. Bismarck het net so groot impak gehad as Hougie In elk geval. Dis die nasionale span die. Bly by Curriecup rugby Kleinboet. Los die internasionale wedstryde vir die egte ondersteuners. Northern Stormer. Atm Hougaard is worth far more on the wing than on Scrummie. Habana must be the worst attacker in the game. He can't side step, he slips on so many occasions and one touch by an opposition player and he crashes into the ground shaking his head. Still. Keep the starting 15. Bring Hougie and Bissie on the 50 minute mark instead of waiting for the opposition to take the lead. Fourie made some mistakes. His service was good, apart from 2 passes. You guys have to take into account that our forwards got bullied until Bissie and Alberts came on. A scrummie is always under pressure when his forwards are getting train smashed. Well done Bokke. Seems I'm the only happy SA supporter after today :)

      tank - 2011-09-11 14:27

      Kleinboet dit is ouens soos jy wat die Bulle ondersteuners 'n slegte naam gee. Hierdie is die nasionale span jou eier, word wakker!! En indien jy iets weer wil skryf, skryf iets wat sinvol is!!

      Rugby Rocks - 2011-09-11 15:21

      ŸÄ±Kleinboet : Jy kan nie oor M@ER nie jou onosele stuk Danville gemors .

      ŸÄ±Kleinboet - 2011-09-11 17:21

      " chrissie mommies boy in Ozzie Laat my weet waar on skan onmoet, ek is LUS om idiote soos jy hard te bl!ksem. Toe nie weghardloop nie, ek wil jou wys hoe `n ware PK lyk dat ons nou maar vir eens of altyd daai ongeligte, stoofdom mondjie van jou kan snoer

  • bliksembende - 2011-09-11 12:26

    lyk my die bokke het op hulle MOER gekry en amper amper verloor ook.

  • Edward - 2011-09-11 12:27

    PATETIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MEES ERVARE SPRINGBOK SPAN OOIT. LYK NIE SO NIE. UIT ERVARING BEHOORT HULLETE WEET MENS MOET 'N TACKLE FACE EN NIE SOOS BURGER HEELTYD DIE RUG DRAAI NIE. PUNTE VIR BRUSSOUW!!!

      FM150 - 2011-09-11 14:52

      Dit was acyually hul ervaring bo Wallis sin wat gemaak het dat hul wen! Wallis was die dominerende span, statisties met twee geleenthede wat Wallis weggegooi het.

  • stevo_o_o - 2011-09-11 12:27

    old snor should of played hougaard, du plessis and alberts from the start!!!!

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-11 13:07

      "....should HAVE played...."

  • Zee - 2011-09-11 12:28

    Thank goodness for Francois Hougaard! Fourie du Preez should resign, immediately!

  • Spioen - 2011-09-11 12:28

    Welldone Wales! Great Rugby from you, that no 7, 8 and 12 had amazing games. Thanks Bokke for holding the defence, and thanks for Hougaard and Bizzy! made a big difference. And there we lost both the old captains in one go!! Hergroepeer kerels, kom ons begin momentum bou... Wat de donner, my hart gaan dit nie hou as dit die res van die kompetisie so gaan aanhou nie

  • bliksembende - 2011-09-11 12:29

    dis nou wat gebeur as jy mense onderskat fikile ! . jy sien jou moer!

  • Jackool - 2011-09-11 12:31

    How can this team play such brilliant rugby one day and so absolutely crap the next game?

      mycentswrth - 2011-09-11 12:46

      I didn't see any briliance from the Boks. Except for Brussow & Bismarck, the all to lazy to go down and win the ball. FdP & JSmit should go home.

      Bumblebee - 2011-09-11 13:12

      "Brilliant one day". What day was that??

      Jackool - 2011-09-11 13:55

      The played some brilliant rugby against NZ a few weeks ago...and today the played crap rugby against Wales...what's so difficult to understand about the statement?

  • Claude - 2011-09-11 12:32

    Total lack of leadership in the first 60 minutes and John Smit only gave away penalties. Bismarck must start.

  • anna - 2011-09-11 12:35

    The Welsh exposed us!!! They did win the game for me. They exposed all our weaknesses and truly made us look un bok like! We had five minutes of passion and if they made that five minutes 20 minutes you could only imagine the score then? But they lose the spark everytime, the fall back into safe mode! Whatever that is, but it is evident and they forget they are on the field to score tries not just to defend a score, or a 4 point lead. That kind of game plan or lack thereof has become their death nail! It is pathetic that they lack such faith in themselves! Bryan needs to be fed the ball and if he got the ball he would score tries, it is the law of averages! To the Welsh, you were a pleasure to watch and your game is only going to get better with that kind of force and passion!

  • BOFFINBOB_UNBANNED - 2011-09-11 12:37

    All credit to Wales for more than " making a go of it. " The Boks will get better though, but then so will Australia & New Zealand & they play rugby as it should be played.

  • Zenwie - 2011-09-11 12:40

    Congratulations, Snorre! It seems like your instructions to the Boks were more or less the following: 1) Do not kick the ball out quickly when under pressure in our own 25, rather try something tricky. 2) Rather kick the ball downfield and give it back to Wales. 3) Try to grab an opposition player around the upper body so that it is not necessary to go to ground yourself. (JP Peterson, if I were your coach you could expect me in the change room with the nearest flagstick waiting to beat the living daylights out of you.) And then, of course, you decided that John Smit must play at all cost. Go on like this, and it is goodbye world cup!

  • Ya Beauty! - 2011-09-11 12:40

    Welsh are a very good team that could well beat Australia in the quater final, give credit where its due and they played very well. What the Boks showed today is that the desire to win is still there which should help them as they move forward look back to the 2007 world cup game against Tonga.....?

  • SIMSI.1 - 2011-09-11 12:40

    hulle het maar baie @@@ gespeel ... die Walliesers moes gwen het ... ek het nog nooit so baie rugby op die grond sien speel nie ... Bokke trek op jullr sokke ... Ai...

  • Wolraad Woltemade - 2011-09-11 12:41

    The referee was bit biased at the start of the game... Nevertheless. Nee bokke, dit lyk nie soos defending wêreld kampioene nie. Baie telleurstellende "game." As ons die Aussies of NZ so gaann aanvat kan ons maar nou al huis toe kom. Jake White needs to return!

  • Pheeha - 2011-09-11 12:41

    RSA was lucky to escape with a win over wales today.by jeff from Indermark .

  • david.sportsman - 2011-09-11 12:42

    You guys all forget one thing - it is all about winning in a WC. How you do it has NO bearing on the final results! I would rather be the supporter that can say his team played badly, but still managed to WIN. If you can manage to WIN on a bad day at the office, that has to mean something!! WELL DONE MY BOKKE!!

      Lean - 2011-09-11 12:45

      Totally agree. That is the mark of a great team. To win when you don't play well. Imagine what will happen if they play well. Yes we got work to do, but at least we got the win, which is all that counts. You so called Springbok supporters, stop moaning, we won. We can only play with who is on the field, yes not all had a good game, but who cares, a win is a win is a win!!!! grow UP!

      Wolraad Woltemade - 2011-09-11 12:57

      Guys - It is still against Wales. If they attempt to return into a bad game against NZ or the Aussies they can kiss the cup good baai. This is not good. The key against for a winner should be consistency... The reason why SA played so badly in the Tri-Nations was exactly because of this. Wales is a Village in England, not a country. How we manage to win (as defending champs) with one point is not something to be proud of. I want to see some consistency in SA rugby, that's all.

      sipholess - 2011-09-11 12:58

      Spot on. We know have the team and with this bad win we need to build momentum. Bokke !!!!!!!!!

  • Shai-hulud - 2011-09-11 12:42

    Smit, Spies, Habana , Pietersen = contributed NOTHING.

      Zee - 2011-09-11 12:56

      du Preez would probably head that list too!

      Vaughn Jacobs - 2011-09-11 14:33

      ...not only today , but the last two to three years !

  • Flamewulf - 2011-09-11 12:44

    I think JP was a liability to the team today, Wales got at least two penalties because of him. The ref made poor decisions.

  • DAMAINMAN - 2011-09-11 12:44

    WHAT IS JANNIE 2+3 DOING IN THE SPRINGBOK SQUAD?HE ADDS NOTHING TO THE GAME EXCEPT SCRUMMING AND THEN HE SUFFERS FROM CRAMPS, HES PROBABLY THE MOST UNFIT MEMBER OF THE TEAM,HE LURKS ON THE SIDES OF THE BREAKDOWNS AT THE ACTION AND DOESNT COMMIT AND DOESNT GET INVOLVED AND THEN MISSES TACKLES --FAILS TO BRING HIS OPPONENTS DOWN. IF IT WASNT FOR SCHALK COVERING FOR HIM AN DOING HIS (jannies)JOB,WE'D HAVE BIG PROBLEMS,HES A SERIOUS WEAK LINK IN OUR DEFENCE, AND AN INCONSEQUENTIAL PLAYER. WHEN IS HE GOING TO REALISE THAT HES NOT PLAYING TOUCH RUGBY? THE BULLS ,CHEETHAS,AN STORMERS HAVE MORE CONTRIBUTING TIGHTHEADS, OR IF THEY INSIST ON PLAYING J.SMITH PUT J.SMITH AT TIGHTHEAD AN LET BISMARCK PLAY OUT HIS MAGIC AT HOOKER. THE BOKS LOST ON THE FIELD TODAY, BUT THE SCORE IS WHAT COUNTS ,I HOPE IM WRONG BUT WE CANNOT WIN THE RWC PLAYING THIS WAY?

  • Draadkar - 2011-09-11 12:48

    Raak ontsla van Fourie Du Preez.

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-11 12:58

      En JP Pietersen. En Spiertjies. En John Smit. En Danie Rossouw. En Morne Steyn.

  • david.sportsman - 2011-09-11 12:49

    @Lean - Glad to see there are more REAL RUGBY supporters and people who have perhaps played the game as well. In 10 yrs from now nobody will ask how you won!!!!

  • david.sportsman - 2011-09-11 12:54

    @ Cheryl - I have NO problem with supporting 15 black players if they are the BEST 15 - Tell us PLEASE who you would select in these guys place. If you have no real answer, pls stop with the political crap. The BEST group of players are at the WC and 90% of us are happy with them. Grow up pls.

  • Kaapie - 2011-09-11 12:55

    @ NZ bro.. 'Wales would have been deserved winners' I can say they lost. For crying in a bucket, that was Tonga they played.. not Wales. Tonga are minnows.

      Steven - 2011-09-11 13:12

      And tonga nearly beat SA last world cup. Tonga needs more respect than they are getting. Lots of super 15 players amoungst them. All Blacks bombed a few tries. Wales played well but SA showed character to get home. Wales midfield were making good yards running at morne tonight. Samoa will make waves this world cup. Also Wales are not a superpower as they struggle against island teams. eg fiji last world cup

  • BlueRaven - 2011-09-11 13:08

    In die woorde van Naas: Whether you win with 1 point or 40, a win is a win. Bissie and Hougie should play 80 min. Vic holding thumps that your injury is not serious! The 2 Steyns played well. Go Bokke!

      Northern Stormer - 2011-09-11 13:23

      I only noticed one Steyn on the park(no 15) - the other one was mostly on the ground after the Welsh ran over him !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Big G - 2011-09-11 13:08

    You all forgot to send JP home .. what an A hole .. most useless player by far ..

  • Kuppy - 2011-09-11 13:09

    A little off the topic, i watched SABC 2 tv studio panel and bits of M-net studio panel. SABC was 1000 times more honest and truthfull about the boks and the game, especially Pieter Hendriks and Dan, one can only respect there honesty about John Smit and the game in general, thanks SABC for employing them as for M-net with that panel especially Andy Marinos, such spin, excuses and bull##sh#t for the boks.

  • nz meisie - 2011-09-11 13:10

    Wales should have won this one, bokke just lucky. If this is the way they will defend the title they have serious problems and need young blood...

  • David - 2011-09-11 13:15

    once again our reserves save the day.bismarck again proved he is the best hooker in world rugby.wales outplayed the boks in every department and should have won easily,but like naas always says,check the scoreboard after the game,thats all that counts....hope they have booked fourie du preez's ticket back home..

  • maceye - 2011-09-11 13:16

    Honestly, the Welsh came out to play rugby today, they were the more hungrier of the two. The Boks, however, started off well, but lost concentration and gave the momentum back to the Welsh. For all intents and purposes, this was a must win for the Welsh, but unfortunately for them, SA's temperament pulled them through. Like Naas said, learn what you can from the game and move on. Hopefully, after our pool games, the team management will pick our best 15 for the knock-out games. As an aside, the New Zealand commentators seemed so disappointed when SA won the game, its almost as if they know that SA will be their biggest challenge in order to win their holy grail.

  • jan.mare7 - 2011-09-11 13:20

    Can someone please teach Wayne Barnes what DAYLIGHT looks like????

      Bootman - 2011-09-11 13:54

      This is the problem when you play at night. There is no daylight.....

  • Maori - 2011-09-11 13:23

    That performance was a stumble! Cannot wait to see the bokkies against the mighty ALL BLACKS in the semi's. The penalty kick was OVER! Should have gone to the TV ref!

      SAJoe - 2011-09-11 13:44

      Yes lots of luck in the win, but Wales have been psyching themselves up for 8 months for this and despite raising their game to Kamakase proportions they fluff their lines. That's what world cups are about - winning game by game for 7 games. Past form as the AB's have proved for the last 25 years means ZILCH!! You are making the same old NZ mistake - going on past performance. Any team can raise their game on any one day. Any team (the best on paper) can also fluff theirs.. The importan thing is that this game is history.Gary Player said any chink in your mental armour and it will come out some where in the golf round or tournament a lesson with the AB's have still to digest. So Maori I hope the psychiatric help lines are at the ready like in 2007

      kurtvs - 2011-09-11 13:47

      If they finish top of their group judging by today’s performance it’s by no means a certainty.

      Jackool - 2011-09-11 14:00

      @Maori. The penalty was not over dude...it curled in after it passed the posts, which is why both touch judges kept their flags down. Maybe you had a seat right underneath the posts and had a better view than them?

      dominik - 2011-09-11 14:09

      @Moari yip can't wait for that semi myself. a slight drizzle, lost of pressure on the ''mighty'' all blacks and going into half time the score 12-3 to the boks. see how mighty the all black really are.

      SAJoe - 2011-09-11 14:15

      Maori your approach is ONE-EYED in many ways. From the view we had on our TV you couldn't tell whether the penalty was over or not. The ball curled out over in line or outside the posts and curved in line between the posts. The crucial point is when did this take place BEFORE posts or AFTER the posts. It was not possible to know from the one angle. It could only be tested with the view from the behind the kicker ( the only one shown on camera) run SIMULTANEOUSLY with the side view. My guess is that the assistant refs who were on the spot UNDER the post saw the the ball was not between the posts as it passed them.

      John - 2011-09-11 14:26

      Dominik, i dont think NZ will be semi with boks, remember they still have to play france.

  • TheDuck - 2011-09-11 13:23

    Do we have a game plan? We played Wales! They are an average team! Can we afford not to start Bismark? Hougard at 9 or 11, Butch start at 10 since Morne has no imagination and cannot tackle.

      springbokke - 2011-09-11 13:50

      @ The Duck.....Wales seem to be S.A.s nemisis.....Please check on several of the previous games between these two countries and note the scores...On several , I dont think the difference was more than 7points ...it's not that the Boks were useless...Wales are a very competetive side. well done to both sides , a very entertaining game.

  • SAJoe - 2011-09-11 13:24

    WALES: 8 months preparation and lines are fluffed at the crucial moment. Will the Kamakaze approach to attack last all world cup? SPIES. Where does he disappear to in these games? Russouw played well but out muscled for once. Schalk: if he is going to bash up must not lose it. Same for the team if we sit back and defend we can't keep conceding penalties on attack. Hopefully our loose forwards won't meetfor one offs on the day. Hopefully Fourie du Preez has got his one bad game out the way. WORRIES: Locks: Danie and Muller don't look too bad but can they last another 6 games. Not optimistic about Victor and Bakkies.About mid field on attack if de Villiers' WC injury bug has struck again Samoa and Fiji will be injury inducing teams .POSITIVES: Boks mental approach - a winning team scrapes a win on an off day.

  • Eduard - 2011-09-11 13:29

    hou op die bal rond skop en begin rugby speel, so gaan hulle hulle gatte sien. Hardloop rugby was nog altyd die eerste opsie, en die scrums wat was fout?