Boks 'better' than 2007

2011-09-17 14:26

Wellington - South Africa were branded a better side than when they won the last Rugby World Cup in 2007 after they mixed steely defence and ruthless attack to demolish Fiji in their second pool game.

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The Springboks withstood 20 minutes of fervent Fijian pressure and then effortlessly turned the game on its head by running in five unanswered tries to crush any hopes a highly rated Fiji side had of being partners in an equal contest.

"It was a fantastic Springbok side. In my opinion it's a better side than four years ago," Fiji captain Deacon Manu said.

"A lot of them who played have already won the World Cup.

"It was a difficult game and South Africa showed why they are world champions. They played with intensity for 80 minutes and it was a difficult old time for us."

Manu added: "They're going to be one of the teams to beat, if not the team to beat this year.

"South Africa were there and really played, as opposed to last week (when they scraped a 17-16 win over Wales). They were using their tactics accordingly. They were firing on all cylinders today(Saturday) and were hard to combat."

Manu was also left lamenting his players' bringing "too much emotion" onto the pitch against the proven hardness and experience of the Springboks.

"We have to get a better mix of emotion with technical skills," he said.

Fiji coach Samu Domoni, the former forward who played for both his country and the Wallabies (once), was left ruing his side's incapacity to break down a stubborn Springbok defence that gave nothing away in a brutal opening 20 minutes.

"I'm certainly disappointed in the outcome. We asked a lot of questions but we just didn't capitalise," Domoni said.

Despite dominating possession for the opening quarter, Domoni said, advantage swung back to the Boks who went on to put a stranglehold on the match.

"Those tries that went the other way certainly put a dent in our side."

Manu said that the focus would now immediately switch to his side's next pool match, against Samoa on September 25.

"We have to make sure we learn from this defeat," the New Zealand-born Scarlets prop said. "There's some hard lessons to be learned.

"A week is a long, long time in rugby. We've got to make sure we put this loss behind us."

Domoni added: "We have all done our research and now we're looking forward to a physical encounter next week."


  • Kleinboet - 2011-09-17 14:36

    We are starting to play good rugby, but we should not let this win go to our heads. We should definitely not take the praise of the opposition to our heads. If we keep on improving, however, we can bring that cup back home. Our defence is going to win us this World cup - thanks Mr Nienaber!

      Spyker May - 2011-09-17 15:39

      Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha..! We will loose against Aus in the quarter-finals and will end up being the greatest embarrassment in the history of the RWC. We leaked first time tackles like a broken strainer. Scramble defense may work on second-string teams, but sides like Aus, read it like a well worn-out Mills-and-Boon novel. Oupa John Smit becomes worse every minute he plays (the Helium Hoender WILL make him run on against Aus and then too little too late will send Du Plessis- and others on). Fourie du Preez remains mediocre at best and Pienaar is NO substitute for him, at any time of the game (so we lack a world-class scrum-half). While Tendai Mtawarira is an epic crowd favourite, his run-on game does not nearly match Gurthro Steenkamp (yet Beast will run on against the Aussies - another fatal mistake). Sad as it is, at the moment neither Habana nor Ndungane is nearly in the same league as their opponents in the Aussie backline. If Fiji kept a bit of structure they would come within single digits - viz bonus-point territory. Re Aus vs Ireland: I am a perennial Irish rugby fan, but I am afraid the clinical verity is that they had ONE good game in them and they spend it today - they played like 'men possessed' (as they do on days like today) and I do not see them repeating it. I will take any bet that behind closed doors, the Aussies are not all that worried - they know they can beat SA in a quarter-final in NZ - they are far more concerned about the semis...

      Jamal - 2011-09-17 15:47

      @Spyker Moron, yawn another anti-Bok moron. Why did you even read this page moron.

      Bok Fan - 2011-09-17 15:55

      bokke bokke bokke!!!!

      Spyker May - 2011-09-17 16:33

      Ja mal Jamal – I shall keenly await your comments by end October. I am not here to win a popularity contest – that desperate I will NEVER be, I am here to give your kind a cold slap called REALITY, YOU and those who keep ‘zombie-ing’ after the Helium Hoender... I bet you are one of those ‘mal’ ones who also thought the SWC was a huge success (while the rest of the globe fell over laughing at the banana banana boys – viz the greatest embarrassment in the entire history of the SWC). PS – Samoa in waiting, he, he, he...

      Johan Potgieter - 2011-09-17 18:18

      @Spyker may The Boks are improving with every game and getting into form. The wallabies probably peeked to soon and they don't have the depth to handle injuries to key players as the Boks do. Our defense have been superb. We have only leaked 1 try in the last two games against teams teams that is normally strong attacking teams. Go and support NZ we are tired of negativity.

      Jono - 2011-09-17 18:46

      @Spyker, our country really needs more people like you! People who can take a positive outcome and point out all the little flaws. Were you abused as a child? Look at the bigger picture, and stop being such a cynic. Or do you get a kick out of everyone hating you? There is obviously a chance that SA will lose to Australia, but this wouldn't be the biggest upset in RWC history as Australia are ranked 2nd in the world and a quality side who just got unlucky in the first round. Even if you are right, this doesn't make you any less of an a**hole! You're the only idiot in SA who will be happier if SA lose and cheering against them every step of the way, just so that you can can say you were right. This country needs patriots, not pessimists! Why don't you just leave!

      Jamal - 2011-09-17 19:33

      @Spyker Moron, nah dont worry, you are to stupid to win anything.

      AA - 2011-09-17 20:18

      Agreed Kleinboot, good words.

      StBad - 2011-09-17 20:27

      All credit to the boys, I never thought we had a performance like that in us. I promoted the horses for courses, forward dominated utilitarian approach that saved us in the last 20mins in 2007 but the Boks showed a class of rugby and handling that I truly didn't think we had. Awesome okes, proud to say you silenced me, top marks!

      Henk - 2011-09-17 21:57

      Jinne Spyker, your whole box of grapes went sour! Sorry we don’t by. Faith is the difference between minnows and champions. Faith made the Boks won the previous two World Cups and Faith will do it again!

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-09-17 22:29

      With you on this one SPyker.... after the TROUNCING over Namibia, and the Win against Samoa... the Boks will become COMPLACENT!!!!!! Aussie will run RINGS AROUND THE BOKS!!!! Let hope I have to EAT MY WORDS!!!!

      Richard - 2011-09-18 12:24

      @Spyker May: So can u quantify the greatest embaressment ever? Are u putting a quater final loss ahead of the 2003 kamp staaldraad graduates performance? In 2003 we lost a game in the pool stages and then lost in the quarters, all under the cloud of staaldraad. Making that claim makes u ingnorant at best and an @ss$ole at worst! I don't think you are here to make intelligent comments. An incomplete appreciation of facts makes your opinion worth little more than the 145 points the All Blacks put past Japan in 95! A light training session would have done more for their cup hopes! Not surprised that you wanna take a bet on something that is behind closed doors!

      Spyker May - 2011-09-18 12:50

      Richturd.., Greatest embarrassment = two times world champions knocked out in the quarter finals...

  • Mack - 2011-09-17 14:51

    Hats off to the coaching job. Great execution by the players. Bodes well for the rest of the tournament. Go Bokke, pride of South Africa!

  • frans.mosia - 2011-09-17 14:59

    well said Klienboet, and the Springboks must not forget to treat each and every game as a final game.In that way the Webb Ellis trophy is definitely coming back home.Again the springboks must hold to their superb discipline, by not giving away penalties.

  • Buffalo - 2011-09-17 15:00

    The Boks should thank you for your compliments, but take them from whence they come: a South-sea Islander whose dream it was to wear the black with silver fern. His comments may very well be genuine, or he might be blowing smoke up the Boks' a$$es.

  • sipholess - 2011-09-17 15:16

    Thanks Deacon Manu but we want to fly under the radar until our next game. We played very well today and we know that, but for now it's back to planet earth and hard work. Build on each game and no 3 is within sight. Keep up the fantastic work Bokke.

  • burtfred - 2011-09-17 15:19

    Just the other day, Ewan Mc Kenzie, he of Reds fame and Aussie adoration, declared, in his ultimate rugby wisdom: "the Boks are rank outsiders". He also stated ""The All Blacks are clearly there, the Wallabies also, and the English have done well " I wonder if he still thinks so.

      Carl Muller - 2011-09-17 16:03

      That was before this game you twit.

      Midfield Maestro - 2011-09-17 16:35

      Carl give Burt a break you twinkie! Actually the second statement he mentioned before the beginning of the world cup. Ewan Mckenzie must be eating his words right now because two of those teams are not playing well at the moment and one of them just got spanked!

      pants - 2011-09-17 19:19

      only an idiot would consider the boks as rank outsiders in a world cup.

  • clivegoss - 2011-09-17 15:20

    STEADY AS SHE GOES ! ! Een wedstryd op n slag. Wel gedaan en veels geluk. Bly kalm en bedaard

  • Whoa Dude! - 2011-09-17 15:26

    Fantastic performance, excellent tactics. I believe we have the team, the mindset and the style to bring the trophy back. NZ beware.

  • Boks4life - 2011-09-17 15:39

    Should we lose a macth to avoid OZ and NZ and play northern sides ?

      sipholess - 2011-09-17 16:14

      No, not for me Boks4life......... if we can build on that game today, NZ,AUS,IRL,ENG, wont want to play us at all. Ball's to the wall and the Webb Ellis is ours.

  • First48 - 2011-09-17 15:40

    Brilliant! A feel good article at last! Well done Boks!

  • Crippler - 2011-09-17 15:44

    A fabulous game. Lots of character. Keep it up boys.

  • Angelo - 2011-09-17 15:59

    Australia cant beat Ireland >. we will whip the kangaroos bum in the world cup bring them on /

  • Woofix - 2011-09-17 16:07

    Why all the fuss & hullabaloo.??? The Boks win only a substandard primary school team.

      Gungets Tuft - 2011-09-17 16:59

      Ah can lark to wear jean pant orso. They also BEAT Fiji. Rather write in your home langauge, then we can ignore you completely.

      pants - 2011-09-17 19:29

      its not that we won there was no real doubt that we were going to win, it's that we denied a great running team any try's..... and calling them a School is rather naive.

  • KUNZIE - 2011-09-17 16:19

    How things can change in four weeks...3 nations Champs and Hot Pot Favs Austrlia downed by 6 Nation strugglers.Suddenly the nay sayers are thinking the Boks can actually pull it off.@ Spyker Dimwit you don't seem to realise that the Aussies beat a below stength Bok team at home,and pulled off a last minute penalty victory over us in Durban this year.You seem to give them far too much credit as Genia and Boofhead showed they can buckle under the RWC pressure.They need Pocock back ASAP if they are going to be Cocksure as you are of them beating us.No team in the history of the tounament has won by taking low road through the playoffs.NZ still favourites to take the tournament but will have to beat the Boks in the Semi's.

  • slg - 2011-09-17 16:28

    Lots of intensity but too frenetic. Some immaturity. In 2007 they were more composed. Their win against England in the pool stage really set the tone. They were better coached, more professional. I was there. I stayed at the team hotel.

      darkwing - 2011-09-17 17:18

      Wow! And just being in the same hotel makes you an expert and celebrity. Really now.

      slg - 2011-09-17 17:32

      No, just that I was immersed in their preparations and mindset.

      Andrew - 2011-09-17 21:15

      And I assume you are staying at the same hotel as the Boks now, you making these expert opinions?

  • kelvinbrink - 2011-09-17 16:34

    Why do you think we going to loose against Aussies, we will walk that one to many young players in that team. They already chocking. Everyone writes off SA vs Aus, that tells me Ireland is better than SA. Yes in your wildest dreams.

  • Pussy - 2011-09-17 17:01

    Lose of FORM is only temporary...but CLASS is permanent...and that is what this Springbok squad has!!! GO BOKKE!!!!

  • Pussy - 2011-09-17 17:08

    Now for the Province 3rd team to teach the Bulls 1st team a rugby lesson...perfect end to the day!!!! PRRRRROOOOOOOOVINCE!!!!!!

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-09-17 18:46

      BWHA BWAH BWAH!! Bulls C team just beat WP A!!! 11 cupless years coming up!!!!!!

  • amabok - 2011-09-17 17:29

    It was only Fiji. Great 7s team, 2nd tier 15s team. Fiji are only ranked 15th in the world behind Cananda, Japan, and Tonga. If the boks had not won by 40 points I would have been very very concerned. This victory will no doubt go to everyone's head including helium head. The boks should throw the game against Samoa to avoid Australia and NZ in the quarters and semis.

      FJ2 - 2011-09-17 21:38

      @amabok: why always so negative? Why should we throw games? The Boks are getting better and have been since the test against Aus in SA. I think all our detractors have a surprise coming. Funny how all those who've been predicting a loss against Fiji is suddenly saying "Well, you know, it was only Fiji!"

      RandomDude - 2011-09-18 01:23

      Yes and as we have seen many times at this WC and in the past IRB rankings are soooo accurate .

  • Corry - 2011-09-17 17:47

    Oh FFS we beat Fiji. Whoop-te-do-dah. Granted we beat them well but that was always going to be the result. Is no one concerned with the lack of support players when someone makes a break? How about the amount of times players isolated themselves. Or how many chances we butchered. We missed 26 tackles. Make no mistake, against teams like Aus, NZ, Eng we won't be so convincing. However they did play well compared to the last few months and if we iron out those niggles we will be in with a chance.

      amabok - 2011-09-17 19:25


  • Mike@CapeT - 2011-09-17 17:51

    Baie mooi Bokke! Gelukkig vir die strukture en rugby intelligensie van die Bulls (die kern van die span) het ons Fidji van die begin af versmoor. Spies se formidabele krag het weer almal in"awe" gehad, hy hol dan met 10 Fidjiane op sy rug! Die bruto krag van Bakkies, Danie en Guthro was ook weer Goue medalje materiaal, en dan ons wedstrydwenners Fourie, Morne en Hougie. En dan's daar Schalk, haai foeitog mense, die p@ephol is totaal uit sy league uit, so dom soos ;n blok Cheddar kaas. JF Baie gemiddeld

  • adrien.mcguire - 2011-09-17 18:17

    I think it was a great training run. If we can get better each match we will stand a chance. I hope we dont go to sleep against Namibia. I am not a Danie Russouw fan , but didnt he have a great game. Kept possesion in the tackle and ran like a demon posessed. Well done Danie !!!

  • MJ - 2011-09-17 18:22

    Fiji are ranked lower than Japan and they played considerably worse against the bokke than their warm-up game against NZ - where they got smashed even worse. Getting excited about this is like being surprised that the sun rose today. The Samoa game should at least be sporting.

      RandomDude - 2011-09-18 01:36

      Yes IRB rank is such an accurate measure of a team . NZ's were ranked #1 when they went down to FR in 2007. Aus #2 just went down to Ireland .. where are they like 5 or 6 ? Tonga , just two spots higher than Fiji outplayed #1 ranked NZ in the 2nd half and that was AT HOME .

  • Annalene Nel - 2011-09-17 18:29

    spyker may, jy is van die pad af outjie.

  • 722 - 2011-09-17 21:00

    Spyker het sy hammer verloor verskoon maar of hy is baie verveeld met homself.

  • Spioen - 2011-09-17 21:52

    Go Div!!! Ozzi confidence knocked - watch, they'll take a big mental setback Bring on Ozzi QF Bring on All Black SF!! Let's settle this once and for all!!! Amabokke will moer die rook uit julle uit!!!!

  • BoerSeun - 2011-09-18 09:24

    When the final whistle blow at the final game of RWC then we can talk, now it is the same as when a baby is born to know the will be a president. Like Naas said few years back, you can't win in the beginning of the RWC, the last team standing is the winner.

  • Jacques Ackermann - 2011-09-18 15:06

    FRANNA STEYN NEEDS TO STAY AT 12...JDV's DAYS AT 12 is numbered. Great attention to the rucks great on attack. franna's speed and width of passing was the key. directed the backline with a master touch. hats off to morne turnstile steyn. really played some amazing attacking rugby. took the ball up flat and gave his outside backs some amazing bal to work with. great job all round. to all the francois steyn haters our there. would you all like some tea with your humble pie. it was really nice to see de jongh at 13 later in the game. i really feel he can make more of a impact in the outer chanells. great stepper and line runner well done to PDV and his coaching staff for a great game of attacking rugby. we have a template now of how rugby should be played. franna steyn is now the key to that.i think jean might need to consider moving to either 13 or wing but he cant outplay franna for that jumper. great game of running rugby not that joke of blue bulls 10 man rugby rubbish. with this style other teams will have something to worry about in terms of perparing for us. if we have more than 55% - 60% of ball possesion we wil end up winning 95% of our games.also hats off to the forwards. our pillars at the rucks did a much greater job of securing our ruck ball which in turn helped our backs attack of a better platform.

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