Bok fans jittery over Fiji game

2011-09-15 14:14

Rob Houwing, Sport24 chief writer

Cape Town – Springbok supporters have surprisingly low expectations of a convincing victory by the defending champions in their World Cup Pool D meeting with relative minnows Fiji in Wellington on Saturday.

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That is if the findings of a Sport24 reader poll are anything to go by … only about a third of some 1 800 respondents believe the Boks will romp home comfortably, following their fortuitous victory over Wales to open their RWC 2011 account.

Bear in mind that this is a meeting between the IRB third-ranked South Africa and opponents who are a lowly 15th as things stand, and that in two previous meetings the Boks have won with a bit to spare each time – 42-18 in Pretoria in 1996 and 37-20 in Marseilles during the last World Cup.

We asked the question: “Injuries aplenty in the Springbok World Cup squad: will they manage to … beat Fiji on Saturday?”

And only 34% of those polled thus far have gone for the bullish first option: “Of course, easy victory for the Boks.”

Exactly 50% of respondents opted for the more cautious: “The Boks will win, but only after a major scare.”

There was also a truly glass-half-empty lobby of 16% who chose the final option: “I’m worried … I can see Fiji beating the Boks.”

 The Fijians are a point ahead of the Springboks in Pool D, because they earned a bonus point in the up-tempo 49-25 triumph over Namibia to launch their own campaign at the World Cup.


  • gooinat - 2011-09-15 14:21

    Of course we are jittery,we have Spies in the side:):)

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 14:49

      It's a pity Vermeulen couldn't travel with. That would've increased everybody else's chances dramatically.

      Mikea - 2011-09-15 14:59

      Agreed. Pity about Vermeulen. We need the physicality which he brings.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-09-15 15:06

      @Bruce - I can't believe peeps here don't know who you are.....

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 15:13

      What do you mean SAFFA CAT?

      bullincapeto - 2011-09-15 15:24

      Saffa its Lloyd

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 15:29

      Who the hell is Lloyd?

      BlueRaven - 2011-09-15 15:30

      SAFFA I am starting to think you have a crush on Lloyd ;)

      Chief Kok - 2011-09-15 15:31

      Fiji by 16.

      EFFEL - 2011-09-15 15:33

      Saffa is Loyd

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 15:40

      Again, who is Lloyd?

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-09-15 15:42

      ROTFLMAO - and now my friend from Canada is ALSO here :) Helllllllllllllo Doc. I must say, tis true what they say about online communities being ideal for deviant little groups......sad to say, I think thats us, all of us.

      Thouca - 2011-09-15 16:49

      we are going to klap them stukkend, boet....bring it on!!

      FJ2 - 2011-09-15 17:36

      No need to be jittery - except for inferior knowledge of the game

  • Anneleen - 2011-09-15 14:21

    Yes, a bullish first option for our brave Bokke...roll on Saturday...go Bokke!!!!!

      Chief Kok - 2011-09-15 16:07

      Die bokke kan bly wees dat namibie in hule groep is, anders eindig hulle laaste. Kyk wat het laas jaar met Italie gebeur in die sokker wb. Finaal: NZ vs Argentinie

      Johnny-BB - 2011-09-15 16:26

      .......Fiji by 18.... .....Go All Blacks...!!!

  • BlueRaven - 2011-09-15 14:28

    We are cautiously optimistic, unlike other supporters we do not underestimate our opposition. Besides we are in the pool known as "the pool of death" remember? GO BOKKE!

      gooinat - 2011-09-15 14:31

      Raven,"pool of death" indeed it is,you are correct!!!!Wales beat Samoa and Samoa beat us(which I doubt,I hope)then it opens a whole new can of worms.....Go Bokke!!!!

  • - 2011-09-15 14:28

    That 37-20 scoreline hardly reflects how that game went.

  • Sharkbite - 2011-09-15 14:31

    Yes, we're jittery, the best hooker in the world is sitting on the bench, we almost lost to Fiji with a better coach than we have now in 2007, and we almost lost to Wales on Sunday. So yes, we're jittery. BUT we believe in you BOKKE!!!!

      Jim - 2011-09-15 14:44

      You did lose to Wales, the score just dosn't reflect it.

      bjay - 2011-09-15 14:51

      Good day Jim We will get that scoring system rectified ASAP. Please reply with proposed amendments. PS: While we work on it, tell Mr Hook to just aim his penanlty kicks at a slightly lower trajectory

      The Hock - 2011-09-15 14:53

      @Sharkbite - Lol! Took the words out of my mouth.

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-15 15:19

      Oh wait, guys, Jim is PdV, he believes that the scoreboard doesn't matter!!

      Squareroot - 2011-09-15 15:50

      @Jim, there are no comments on the score board, Boks won with 2 tries to 1.

      Arries - 2011-09-15 15:59

      @ Squareroot: The Wales pass before the try was OBVIOUSLY forward, and the kick was a marginal call, Jim forgot to open his eyes. So it should be 2 tries to 0.

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-15 23:12

      @Jim. OK, then we 'll go and tell Ireland they were actually in the 1991 World Cup final because they won against Australia in the semi's, even though the scoreboard does not say that. I wonder who won the final then? This one's gonna be tricky. Oh, and we'll rub out the South Africa on the cup next to 1995, because New Zealand won despite the scoreboard showing something else. And we'll let England know that they have actually never won a World Cup because even though Johnny put the drop over to give them more points than the Wallabies in 2003, Australia have in fact won that game. Except if they have beaten Ireland in the final in 1991. Or wait, England have won a final. Although the Boks had more points, England won the 2007 final if we use Jim's logic. We'll keep New Zealand as the winners of 1987, right? You don't want to put additional heartache on them.

  • BB - 2011-09-15 14:32

    Rob jy praat namens my! jy moet nie! Bokke gaan hulle eet vir breakfast!

  • GHT - 2011-09-15 14:33

    I think a fair stat would rather be peoples Superbru scores. It's so easy just to click on a random thing in polls just to see the results.

      The Hock - 2011-09-15 15:06

      Superbru community stats: 98.3% believe the Boks will win. The sport24 poll is bogus.

  • buldozersema - 2011-09-15 14:34

    The bok backline is looking better than the one which struggled against Wales. Samoa will be the real test - Tuilagi in particular

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-09-15 15:09

      Her Maj - she who has a better sidestep than Meisiekind :)

  • Camiel Phillips - 2011-09-15 14:38

    The boks will win by 15-20 points

      Theo - 2011-09-15 15:24

      No way we will be lucky to win by eight.

  • draaft - 2011-09-15 14:42

    Boks by 21, reckon something like 38-17... but only time will tell...

  • Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 14:47

    Fiji by 6.

      Espresso - 2011-09-15 15:15

      Bruce, your baiting is quite possibly the weakest I have seen on this forum...and that says a lot. Very poor attempt, mate. Off you go now, your sheep need attention.

      Wynand - 2011-09-15 15:18

      Ireland by 12.

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 15:19

      Buddy your sheep jokes are kinda yesterday.

      Espresso - 2011-09-15 15:22

      I wasn't joking. Ok, ok, I was. But anyway, on with the rugby talk then.

      Jou Ma - 2011-09-15 15:50

      Bruce, did you grandmother arrive in Australia on the Lady Julian?

      pants - 2011-09-15 18:39

      The Crims going to loose to the Irish..

      Ruck'n Punt - 2011-09-16 02:47

      @Bruce, your constant changing of profiles are kinda yesterday mate. Get over yourself, jokes running a bit dry now.

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-16 03:17

      Ruck, sorry buddy, can't catch your drift.

  • Airline Crew Forum - 2011-09-15 14:47

    Why dont they rest John Smit, we need him for the 2015 world cup!!!

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 14:51

      Don't despair. The man will get ample time to rest before 2015. His financial greed will keep him going, since he doesn't have any dignity left.

  • Greegs - 2011-09-15 14:51

    The Boks have given us nothing to shout about so yes, we're jittery!

  • Jeff - 2011-09-15 14:52

    Bok fans jittery over Fiji game!!?? Except me! I know we gonna win. I stand firm behind the boks. And even if the third ranked team (Bokke) wins the 15th ranked team (Samoa) with just 1 point, a win is a win. And so what if we going to win the world cup with one point and with half of the supporters who's jittery..... So what????? Win is a win....

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 15:06

      Third ranked team, third world country. Coincidence?

      Old EagleEye - 2011-09-15 15:20

      @ Jeff. Don't get carried away-and rather take your blinkers off. We've seen only one inept display by the Bokke. Rather be cautious than kick yourself later. After all, they may not win another game. HEAVEN FORBID!!!!!! Go Bokke!

      Wynand - 2011-09-15 15:25

      Everybody knows Australia's proud history! Bruce, for what offence did they send your ancestors to that lovely island of yours?

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 15:33

      Wynand Australia cleaned up pretty nicely, what about South Africa?

      Jou Ma - 2011-09-15 15:33

      @bruce dundee. The offspring of convicts, sheep shaggers. Coincidence?

      Wynand - 2011-09-15 15:39

      Bruce, the only thing Australians clean up nicely is your sheep's ballsacks!

      BardofAvon - 2011-09-15 15:47

      On a quite African night you can hear the clinking of the shackledraggers down yonder...

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-15 23:27

      @Bruce Dundee. Third ranked team, third world country............. third World Cup trophy. I like where your "coincidence"-thinking is going.

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 23:43

      Good one Chris. Where in Austarlia are you? How long have you been there?

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-16 00:33

      @Bruce. In Queensland. But that is not relevant. Talk rugby. That's why we're here.

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-16 00:35

      Quite a pleasant chap you are.

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-16 00:53

      Thanks. I try my best.

      OutbackJack - 2011-09-16 05:14

      @Bruce. Don't worry too much about Chris. He's one of those Saffas that came here and is probably so homesick that he trashes everything aussie. Chris mate maybe its time to start planning your move back west. You obviously don't support Australia even though this country gives you everything you need.

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-16 05:34

      @OutbackJack. I love it in Aus. But like I told you earlier: I did not come here to support the Wallabies. I could have done that in South Africa if I wanted to. My reasons for coming here and being here is not important on this rugby forum. What is important though is that I support the Boks and would love to see them take the cup for the third time.

      StangV2_0 - 2011-09-17 07:13

      @ Chris... Awesome! Keep our flag flying there :)

  • Hannetjie - 2011-09-15 15:03

    I think at the moment most Springbok supporters are jittery as our team is not performing as expected. They play well one week (beat the AB's) and then put up a poor showing the next match so it is hard to be very confident! I still believe we need to show them our support and trust they will improve as the WRC progresses. GO Bokke!!!!!!!!!!

  • Tony - 2011-09-15 15:05

    Of course they're going to klap them!!!

  • jay - 2011-09-15 15:11

    I`ve said it here before and say it again: all those who think this group would be won easily don`t know nuch about rugby. All of a sudden we have the o-ohs and the jitters. Come on guys, get your act together and keep a clear head! We are the best team in the group and can win against any team if the mindset is right - just don`t underestimate the "lower" teams. The RWC is ours to take - and to lose

      Old EagleEye - 2011-09-15 15:40

      Yep! But 'the power of positive thinking' here in SA can't make any difference whatsoever to the team on the other side of the world. Wish it could. Methinks that their self-image at an all time low as we sit here. Just go and whip them Bokke!!!!

  • Babs Visser - 2011-09-15 15:15

    I think most supporters got such a scare on Sunday that they have lost a little faith in the Boks, it is still early days, give them a chance to proof themselves! Never give up where there is still hope!!!!

      BlueRaven - 2011-09-15 16:28

      Babs we never say die

  • BardofAvon - 2011-09-15 15:43

    Never give a sucker an even break.

  • Old EagleEye - 2011-09-15 16:02

    @ Bruce. Apologies for the crude jokes by my fellow South Africans. Some people resort to insults when they find it difficult to 'put pen to paper'. It's a cover-up of their own ignorance and a reflection of their immature minds! Go Bokke, go!

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 16:10

      Don't fret buddy. I've been living in S.A for more than a decade. I get it.

  • blackfan - 2011-09-15 16:15

    ag nee! not another black weekend for bok supporters again

  • Old EagleEye - 2011-09-15 16:25

    @ Bruce Dundee. Hope you have retained your Australian Citizenship. You may just need it, the way things are going here! Go Bokke!

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 16:53

      I'm in the privelaged situation that I can go back & forth as I please. I love it here though.

      Thouca - 2011-09-15 21:05

      bruce...wots up with yr comments boet?...something scratching yr naught ?

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 22:13

      Sorry Thouca, don't know what you mean.

  • Sly Bacon - 2011-09-15 16:45

    This forum is Bok supporters we pull no punches and are all on the same page BUT there are a few clowns out there who have no idea what is going on and show no support for our Bokke. Ignore them....they will soon have egg on their faces !!!!! My prediction is Fiji are going to to come at us at 1000 mph for the opening 20 minutes.....we must just match their physicality and be patient......any first time tackles we miss they will punish us.....our bench will finish them off in the last 20 minutes....just watch what happens to Tuilagi when he gets the Lomu in 1995 he won't know what has hit him....LOL.....Bokke by 15

  • Old EagleEye - 2011-09-15 17:06

    @ Bruce Dundee. I do too! But had the good fortune to spend 7 weeks in Hobart Tasmania this time last year. Truly a lovely place. Everything so structured, clean and the people so friendly. Great time there. But my heart remains here! Go Bokke, go!

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 22:17

      Thanks buddy. Australia is a great place. Very clean and safe. It's a pity that most people confuse confidence with arrogance. I accept the fact that you want to suggest that the cricketers of old, like Warne, Hayden, Ponting and the rest were arrogant but most of us are just nice/friendly peolpe.

      OutbackJack - 2011-09-16 05:28

      Tassie is beautiful. Just bloody cold. Hey Bruce where you from mate? I'm in SA (the state). Adelaide born and raised. Pity that union struggles to get a hold here. All just Crows and Power. One day we'll hopfully have a union team on the big stage

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-16 05:38

      @Jack. South Australia having a union team on the big stage? Hahahahahaha. Just like Melbourne? That was a HUGE success wasn't it?

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-16 05:48

      Jack, I'm from Newcastle, but haven't been there for about 4 years. In RSA for the last 10 years.

  • Claude - 2011-09-15 17:20

    I am not jittery over this game I'm jittery over any game where P de V has been the coach.

      Old EagleEye - 2011-09-15 17:26

      Well said! From Ping Pong, Darts, Water Skiing to Rugby-you name it!!!

  • Barry Edwards - 2011-09-15 18:03

    I don't think we can take any match for granted.

  • Skilpop - 2011-09-15 19:59

    I'm so tired of seeing our players struggle, why are they not playing to their full potential?? I just don't get it! It can't be that everyone else just got so much better over the last 15 years? We all enjoy a tight game of rugby, but I would like to see the boks show off a bit on Saturday morning! I'm waking up at 6am to make it to the pub in time and my heart couldn't handle another Wales type match!

      Redobserver - 2011-09-16 07:35

      Reality is the other teams have improved that much.

  • Blikskottel - 2011-09-15 21:45

    Ons lyk soos henne, maar ons is Fijiane....

  • Rob Jones - 2011-09-15 22:21

    The Telly Tubbys (Boks) should win this fairly easily by about 15 points, but they will take at least another 3 injuries out of the game. Love the draw for the boks this year two pacific nation teams to really soften them up

      Wormtongue - 2011-09-15 23:10

      So it is more about you than the SA National Rugby team. Tell us more about yourself. Must be a really interesting story. PS: Have you now retired BCC and Maori, or will your alter egos make a return at some point?

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-15 23:35

      @Rob Jones. Watch out for the purple Tellytubby. He's dangerous.

  • Jacques Ackermann - 2011-09-16 00:09

    I love it when people stil think we have problems in the pack. our pack is great its our backline that is not doing its bit. hopefully morne turnstile steyn can get his act together. no aimless kicking please. keep the ball. with 55% - 60 % of the ball we wont lose the game. really happy to see franna in at the normal position of 12. he will create a lot more on attack than JDV

      Wormtongue - 2011-09-16 02:17

      We have a chronic selection problem at 2 and new injury problems at both 4 and 5 - all 3 examples potentially serious issues.

  • MJ - 2011-09-16 08:07

    As a kiwi I'm just relieved that the biggest troll on this website right now isn't one of our own... It is kind of funny though.

  • bario - 2011-09-16 12:41

    all i have 2 say is goodluck 2 da boks 4 2mws games they must play as if it was thier last game n put more energy,be passionate about what they do bcoz we bhind em all da way.

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