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Four changes to Bok side

2011-09-14 21:12

Cape Town - The Springboks made four changes to their starting line-up and two more on the bench when they named the team to meet Fiji in their Pool D Rugby World Cup 2011 match in Wellington on Saturday.

Four of the six changes have been forced by injury.

Lock Victor Matfield (hamstring) and backs Butch James (hip flexor), Jean de Villiers (rib cartilage) and Bryan Habana (patella tendon) were all unavailable for selection due to injury.

A fifth player, Johann Muller, will undergo a late fitness test on a tight hamstring. If he is unavailable he will be replaced on the bench by Francois Louw.

Matfield’s place is taken by the returning Bakkies Botha; Odwa Ndungane steps into the left wing berth in place of Habana; Pat Lambie starts at fullback with Francois Steyn moving forward to fill De Villiers’ inside centre berth and James’ place on the bench is taken by the versatile Ruan Pienaar who has appeared at scrumhalf, flyhalf and fullback for the Springboks.

In addition, Springbok coach Peter de Villiers made two tactical changes. Gurthrö Steenkamp was promoted to start at loosehead prop in place of Tendai Mtawarira (who drops to the bench) while the return to a conventional four/three split between forwards and backs among the replacements opens the way for Juan de Jongh to make a first appearance on a Rugby World Cup teamsheet.

De Villiers said Willem Alberts would act as a replacement lock if Muller failed to recover sufficiently.

“We have had injury problems at lock but we have versatile players to cover for most situations,” said De Villiers. “Danie Rossouw has now been picked to start at 4, 5, 7 and 8 this season and will call the lineouts this weekend.

“Willem Alberts is on the bench to cover four of the back five positions in the pack and we have a couple of scrumhalves on the bench who cover three other positions as well, so we are fortunate.

“Against a tough proposition like Fiji you’d prefer to have all your players available but this is tournament rugby and we picked our squad knowing that we would have to cover for many situations.”

The Springboks have played Fiji twice before, winning both games. In 1996 they recorded a 43-18 win in Pretoria before recording a momentarily tense, 37-20 victory over Fiji in the quarterfinals of the 2007 tournament.

Saturday’s match kicks off at 18:00 (08:00 SA time).

Teams:

South Africa: 15 Pat Lambie, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Frans Steyn, 11 JP Pietersen, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Fourie Du Preez, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Schalk Burger, 6 Heinrich Brussow, 5 Danie Rossouw 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Jannie Du Plessis, 2 John Smit (captain), 1 Gurthro Steenkamp

Substitutes: 16 Bismarck du Plessis 17 Tendai Mtawarira 18 Johann Muller 19 Willem Alberts 20 Fancois Hougaard 21 Ruan Pienaar 22 Juan de Jongh

Fiji:
15 Kini Murimurivalu, 14 Vereniki Goneva, 13 Gaby Lovobalavu, 12 Seremaia Bai, 11 Naipolioni Nalaga, 10 Waisea Sedre Luveniyali, 9 Nemia Kenatale, 8 Sakiusa Matadigo, 7 Akapusi Qera, 6 Dominiko Maiwiriwiri Waqaniburotu, 5 Wame Lewaravu, 4 Leone Nakarawa, 3 Deacon Manu (captain), 2 Sunia Koto, 1 Campese Ma'afu

Substitutes: 16 Telemaitoga Dautu Tuapati, 17 Waisea Nailago, 18 Netani Edward Talei, 19 Sisa Koyamaibole, 20 Vitori Tomu Buatava, 21 Nicky Little, 22 Gaby Lovobalavu

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Comments
  • Neo - 2011-09-14 21:14

    Good enough to beat Fiji by 20. GO BOKKE!!!

      Hardekwas - 2011-09-14 21:47

      With John 'eisbein' Smit? ..... mmmm make that Bokke by 10....

      darren - 2011-09-14 21:55

      what about Morne and Spies

      BlueRaven - 2011-09-14 22:20

      Don't think they should risk playing Bakkies yet, but I suppose desperate times calls for desperate measures. Go Bokke! Behind you all the way

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-14 23:12

      On a hiding to nothing. Go Fiji!

      Theo - 2011-09-15 05:16

      This is going to be very close

      1nawty0 - 2011-09-15 07:57

      Self-inflicted pressure..... How can a coach take to the world cup so many "old and injured" players.....? we now have to scramble to put together a half decent team, we having to play people out of position, and other teams can smell blood......! Every team in our pool including Namibia "THINKS" they can beat the Boks... we can't dominate and dictate a game plan...because of this they are going hard at the Boks and more players are going to get hurt....! Playing a "B-C team in the Tri-nations without some experience alongside the youngsters showed them up they looked awful and made people like Deysel look ordinary. After "97" we should have started a young Springbok team.....built them up for 3 years.... then add the ballies back and pick a team for the World Cup. (would have saved the Ballies, would have motivated the youngsters and we would have had depth at the world cup)

      Johnny-BB - 2011-09-15 08:20

      ....luckily Jean de Villiers and Bryan Banana are out ... .....their replacements are improvements....

      Shark-Chic - 2011-09-15 08:27

      @1nawty0 - you mean 07?

  • GCR7 - 2011-09-14 21:20

    Why is Gio not even on the bench?

      Sharkie4ever - 2011-09-14 21:24

      Cause he's too small for Fiji, at least de Jonge has a bit of meat on him.

      Chef - 2011-09-14 21:32

      WHAT?? Big fijian against Gio... ag please

      StBad - 2011-09-14 21:33

      @Sharkie4ever: hardly mate? Aplon punches way above his weight.

      106SA - 2011-09-14 21:47

      Too small!!!

      BlueBalls - 2011-09-14 22:16

      Because he's the most overrated player ever.

      Logoll - 2011-09-14 23:02

      Why Gio Aplon should be in the team - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQfFq2qhoc - because he runs around players Why Odwa Ndungane should not be in the team - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pqEl493UWc - because he never steps and always knocks the ball. Also he has seven caps for South Africa and has never scored a try.

      semloh - 2011-09-14 23:18

      Yeah I feel for Gio, even though I am glad to see Lambie there. Gio is not too small, otherwise how could he survive and excel in the the S15 against those big players, especially from NZ....Even though technically he is covering fullback/right wing would have picked him ahead of Odwa on the left wing....

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-15 00:32

      I agree. Aplon should have been in the team. He could have tired out all the big Fijians every time they need to turn around and jog back to their own posts to wait for the conversion.

      Kleinboet - 2011-09-15 03:46

      @Chrissie mommies boy in Oz APLON???????????????? En dan? Dan hardloop enige iemand wat meer as 40kg weeg bo-oor die nagaap!

      scipio - 2011-09-15 07:30

      Definitely should have replaced Habana with Aplon or Hougaard. Not Ndungane

      Johnny-BB - 2011-09-15 08:23

      Agree, .......both Baby Aplon and Patty Lambie much too small for international rugby....

      Janco - 2011-09-15 09:03

      To all of you who moan about size, it is not the size of the dog in the fight that counts but the size of the fight in the dog! Gio is known for his defence and has taken down a lot of bigger men.

      Jasoneye - 2011-09-15 10:34

      What a bunch of numbnuts...................do me a favor and check out Aplon on youtube, the guy tackles runs and kicks he is a great player. He would definitely bring more to the team than Odwa!

      Bosman - 2011-09-15 11:44

      Rather Aplon than Odwa....Aplon has shown tremendous courage on defense. Frans Steyn was good on Fullback why move him? Hougaard deserved to be in on wing and Morne, a definite no-no against Fiji. Talking about tackling, our worst tackler is Morne.

  • nzbro - 2011-09-14 21:21

    Not so sure if this is a good idea for him personally.Its too soon & he has a chronic condition so it will not go away.Pdivvy must be really desperate to risk him again. I think he will be pumped high on painkillers to get him thru and then off again with "injuries'. He probably will be in the back ground to keep out of harms way. watch him carefully.

      Sharkie4ever - 2011-09-14 21:35

      Yeh, let's hope that he doesn't aggrevate it, as nzbro says, the pain killers may be in operation.

      Jackool - 2011-09-14 21:41

      I would have rested Bakkies to make sure he is ready for the big games ahead. Maybe there wasn't another substitute to stand in for him? Besides that I think this may be the smart team for this part of the tournament, and we should be able to beat Fiji with this team.

      Hardekwas - 2011-09-14 21:43

      Now why would a NZ brother comment on the SA locks for the Fiji game? I mean, I don't give a flying f@%k which NZ locks play against Japan on 16 Sep?

      canuck13 - 2011-09-14 21:43

      agree - too soon. this world cup is still young. rest him.

      Blou - 2011-09-14 21:44

      @nzbro I start to suspect mind games.

      nzbro - 2011-09-14 21:52

      @ Hardekwas - just to help you along there bro...Im a rugby sports fan and regardless of the fact that I support the AB's 100%, i still have an opinion on other teams as well. I dont view the world in your vulgar blinkered fashion. You should get out of SA a bit & chill.You sound way too stressed there.

      Hardekwas - 2011-09-14 22:03

      @ nzbro .... mmmmm ... I see, you are one of those SA All Black supporters? ....... one of those identity crisis cases? .... you should join a help group in this regard .... it is bad if you don't know where you belong.

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-14 22:14

      Hardekwas, you're a real idiot, what did nzbro say that offended you? Since when is this an exclusively SA blog? Go spend that negative energy on Rob Jones rather. I agree with nzbro, you need to chill ou!!!

      BlueBalls - 2011-09-14 22:19

      Hardekwas, jy kan Afrikaans praat met hom. Hy sal verstaan, aangesien dit sy huistaal is.

      kiwiNZ - 2011-09-14 22:46

      @ Hardekwas what is your problem mate? why so angry? We kiwis dont hate anybody that is NOT a supporter of our AB team and respect other teams especially the boks and wallabies.Remember this is only a sport. nzbro said nothing insulting to you or the boks and yet you attack with so much anger.You even go totally off subject in your anger. We are all lovers of the sport and all have an opinion of some sort on any team/player.You are most welcome to comment on kiwi sites as well, thats what the internet enables you to do in this day & age.Do you need a ticket for NZ? I'll take you for a relaxing sail & a fish amongst our islands & we can get nzbro to join us too. Im sure he is a nice kiwi just like me.

      StaalBurgher - 2011-09-14 23:08

      All these SA people pretending to be New Zealanders should bite the pavement.

      kiwiNZ - 2011-09-14 23:44

      StaalBurgher are you another sa with anger issues? do you also need anger management counseling like Hardekwas? or is it just plain jealousy? I have many SA'ns working for me in nz and they are still bok supporters.I dont have a problem with that at all.we all still respect each other. Should I suggest to them to follow your advice "All these SA people pretending to be New Zealanders should bite the pavement." or should they follow Hardekwas advice "you should join a help group in this regard .... it is bad if you don't know where you belong." since they are living here accepting kiwi $ and citizenship benefits but support another country? let me know what they should do according to your angry beliefs and I'l pass on your advice to them too. They have told me some sad stories about sa and listening to you 2 I think all those who left sa did the correct thing. so much anger?? still Im curious.let me know what they should do according to your angry beliefs and I'l pass on your advice to them.

      OutbackJack - 2011-09-15 02:10

      To my kiwi neighbours accross the ditch. Don't be too offended by the Saffas' rants. Most of them have anger issues. Must be the environment they live in. Can't even make an objective comment about a sport and they want to bite your head off. Sad really.

      RandomDude - 2011-09-15 03:03

      @nzbro wasn't being a troll . NZBro, I actually hope he gets injured again .. at least long enough to be out of the running for the WC. He's a meathead , a liability rather than an asset.

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-15 03:28

      @OutbackJack. How's things in sunny South Africa?

      OutbackJack - 2011-09-15 04:33

      @ Chris. Won't know mate. Sitting here in Glenelg South Australia where I live. I'm definately not a Saffa, but nice try.

      lalaland - 2011-09-15 04:42

      @kiwiNZ - our frustration is not vented against New Zeelanders (or even Aussies). We are frustrated - no disgusted - with born and bred South Africans that actually still stay in SA that then go and cheer for the All Blacks or bash the Boks. That is simply not on. Agree that lashing out at nzbro was not really called for as he made a perfectlu innocent (and accurate) remark, but unfortunately there are many SA-haters on these forums that just love to poke the lion. Repsect

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-15 05:09

      @Outback Jack. Then why would you pretend to be such an authority on the South African psyche?? You should rather keep quiet if you don't know anything about the subject. I guess we won't hear from you again on any rugby forum then.

      Circa - 2011-09-15 05:24

      @ lalaland Spot on, all these SA intellectual featherweights trying to pretend that they are NZ citizens, yawn, boring.

      OutbackJack - 2011-09-15 07:45

      Because Chris, I work with several South African colleagues who are all calm, pleasant easy-going and professional. Not the same qualities I see some guys on the forum. No expert in the psyche, just very observant. BTW, you don't seem to be very supportive of Australia mate, maybe time to rethink a move back to your dark continent??

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-15 08:18

      @OutbackJack. Again, you fail to comment about rugby on a rugby blog. Geen salf te smeer nie. Go ask your South African workmates what that means. I did not move to Aus to support the Wallabies. I could have done that out of South Africa if I wanted to.

      StaalBurgher - 2011-09-15 12:53

      @nzbro... if the shoe fits. I am not the one on a SA website insulting locals.

  • Veld66 - 2011-09-14 21:24

    We all remember 2007...........Fiji boys. There has been no upset in this RWC , who knows!!!!!

      Casperghost - 2011-09-14 21:30

      What about Canada beating Tonga this morning?

      Veld66 - 2011-09-14 21:39

      It doesn't count...two babies playing each other!!!!!!

      Neilson - 2011-09-14 21:44

      @Casperghost: What about Canada beating Tonga? Historically Canada have won Tonga more often and more times in recent history. Plus in the last world cup Canada would have won England (who eventually got to the final) if not for the referee giving the Poms extra minutes after time and a undeserved penalty for the win.

  • Blou - 2011-09-14 21:30

    Die span klink mooi, sou dalk net Hougaard op 11 wou sien (en Bismarck op 2) maar ek is tevrede en staan agter die Bokke. Kan nie wag vir die game nie....!!!

      Lance - 2011-09-15 13:06

      ..saving the best for last..

  • Ian - 2011-09-14 21:33

    A good side, who can pull it thru!

  • Rob Jones - 2011-09-14 21:37

    Cant wait to see this game as the big Black fellas knock the stuffing out of the Podgie Boers. There will be definetly be more injuries out of this game. Looking at my Ideal for this world cup pool would be for both Samoa, and Wales to beat the Boks.For both of them to progress on Points into the quarter finals. As Wales coach quite rightly said the boks have played attractive rugby for years.Samoa looked so good smashing Namibia yesterday the game against South Africa though they will be really fizzed up for.

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-14 21:44

      I dare you to call Bismarck a "Podgie Boer" to his face.......

      Hardekwas - 2011-09-14 21:50

      Rob, put your money where your mouth is.

      lognut - 2011-09-14 21:51

      You going to be disappointed, but I guess you normally are, and your try was a forward pass. Our tries looked good. Yes it was attractive rugby. Samoa gonna beat the Puff dragons this weekend and they gonna be out of the world cup having played their final against the Boks......shame

      Boeta Nev - 2011-09-14 21:55

      "would be for both Samoa, and Wales to beat the Boks." Were you asleep last Sunday morning or in church cause we allready played Wales and won.

      John - 2011-09-14 22:22

      you are a real twit. i bet you have collie ears and a skew nose

      Durbanpoison - 2011-09-14 22:22

      Rob please p*ss off. you are obviously only on this site to get some sort of reaction, sounds like you dont get enough attention at home or the mental health clinic you are probably locked up... see they have allowed you internet access for a few minutes. So why dont you use your time effectively and go on a porn site or so.... enjoy

      StaalBurgher - 2011-09-14 23:12

      @Rob... we love your salty, British tears here on Sport24. You lot have got a real hardon for Boers. Just take a deep breathe and realise we will always be superior to you. Lucky for the world there aren't a 50 million + of us, although I am sure that thought gives you nightmares. Hehe...

      StaalBurgher - 2011-09-14 23:16

      or New Zealand or whatever you are... we will just categorize anyone as a Brit that insults a white South African as a "boer".

      FJ2 - 2011-09-14 23:49

      Sorry, Rob Jones, I beg to differ. If Samoa allows the Boks the same amount of space to run in that they gave Namibia, they will be whitewashed. As for your comment about "Podgie Boers": If I wanted to hear from an ass, I'd fart. Maybe, if you show some respect, it will be returned in equal measure.

  • Charl Norman - 2011-09-14 21:38

    Hougaard was the spark last week! Put Bismarck on, rest tired Smith. ffs..

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-15 05:32

      @ Charl. No, don't rest Smit against the minows. Let him play and rest Bismarck. We need our best hooker to be rested and fit for the playoffs.

  • Sharkbite - 2011-09-14 21:39

    Look, I don't think this is a bad team, in fact, I'm happy with a lot of the changes, specially the move of Frans Steyn to his favourite position, and inclusion of Lambie in the starting XV. But honestly, how on earth can Bismarck and Hougaard still sit on the bench after their respective performances on Sunday? But I know most will agree here, so I'll just say go Boks and leave it at that. We're getting closer to the team that should be used in the playoffs, one baby step at a time...

  • Neilson - 2011-09-14 21:40

    Too many players out of position. This will hurt the Boks, they might still scrape it, but will lose the opportunity to win by a big margin.

      radar - 2011-09-14 23:42

      Neilson you are a joker when it comes to rugby knowledge. Stick to analyzing primary school rugby! Your posts make for a good laugh! The reality is that with the exception of Spies and Smit (both should be dropped from teh squad) and Hougaard being included in starting line up, this is almost our best team. Obviously Matfiled needed, along with Louw at #7 and Burger moves to 8th man. And if Fourie and Morne screwing up again, then go with Hougaard and Lambie combo 9 and 10 with the versatil and big boot of Ruan Pienaar at 15. Now I would pay for a ticket to watch that team which is capable of playing rugby as it is meant to be played!!

  • CapeTownJunk - 2011-09-14 21:41

    Strange, there's been an injury cloud over Bakkies Botha for ages. Maybe the team management's message to him is "Go play or go home". If he can't last at least 50 minutes, then they might as well give up on him, send him home and call up a fit replacement.

  • The Situation - 2011-09-14 21:45

    The side looks solid enough to topple the Fijians with brawn. No doubt. The bench looks warming for in case we have to play catch up rugby like we have been doing for the past wins we've got (except the PE match). I'm going to support the Boks no matter who plays. But we must agree that we're the most dysfunctional rugby team at the moment. So much talent, even enough talent the world cup to be the best team at the tornament, yet our drunk selections ALWAYS raises eyebrows. I'd hate to be John Smit right now. Poor, man.

  • Buck - 2011-09-14 21:52

    Piet Helium can be pleased I'm not Bismarck..............I would have told him to get fu%cked by now!.............and spare me all those John Smit sentiments on here please!

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-15 05:36

      @Buck. We will get another Clide Rathbone here with Bismarck if Snorre is not careful.

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-15 07:31

      Chris, luckily after the world cup Smit will be gone and the best hooker in the world will be first choice for his own team. And because Bismarck has played for SA he can't play for another international side. But I cannot believe he's sitting on the bench, it's not fair, no wonder he plays so well, all the frustration getting taken out on the opposition.

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-15 08:25

      @Sharkbite. I think he can play for another country after 3 years or something. And don't be too surprised if Chilliboy is the preferred hooker and Bismarck warms the bench again once Smit retires. As much as I would hate to see that, it just seems as if Chilliboy is being groomed to be next Bok captain.

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-15 09:21

      Yea Chris, I also think he's being groomed......I'm just holding thumbs and toes and everything else you can hold that the new coach isn't a retard. Hoping that Alistair Coetzee gets the job! And then I would propose that Heinrich must be the upcoming captain. Would be incredibly sad if Bismarck AGAIN has to sit on the bench and watch a weaker player play because it's his captain.

  • Blikskottel - 2011-09-14 21:53

    Missing Hougaard. Big mistake against Fiji!

      FJ2 - 2011-09-15 00:05

      He'll come on as a gamebreaker.

  • Rob Jones - 2011-09-14 21:53

    @ sharkbite No problem calling him a podgie Boer as that is what he is. Just wondering if Scotland has brought the South African rugby training modules because they are playing a ver similar brand of rugby . Totally ugly ,and bloody boring!!! snor snor snor

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-14 22:04

      It's ok, I don't feed trolls. 17-16, 2 tries to 1, Boks vs Wales...the scoreboard is all that matters buddy. The twice RWC champions label also looks pretty, don't you think? So keep watching as the Podgy Boers march to the playoffs and leave you in their dust, with their ugly rugby and all.

      RandomDude - 2011-09-15 00:18

      Rob... that game against the boks where your pathetic team couldn't score one legit try with all their possession really hurts ? Good !! I love it . Any by the way what does it say about you bunch of wankers if you've not been able to best the "podgie boers" in something like 100 years . The podgie boers have 2 RWC cups in 4 attempts .. now what has your pathetic team won ? Ever made it out of the 1/4s ? Keep on hating.. we LOVE it .

      Ploppy - 2011-09-15 09:43

      Haha, with the worst coach in the Bok history we still beat a Welsh side that was full strength!! Funny how the Welsh like to think they can play running rugby yet scored less tries than the Boks and generally only rely on the boot of Hook or Jones to get them near their opponents. Oh, when last did Wales beat the Boks, hmmmm. Lets see how you Welsh fairies fare against the Samoans this weekend? We get to see how exciting your brand of rugby is? You remind me of Graham Davidson who likes the Welsh and the English yet real men support the Boks (or at least a southern hemisphere team)

  • Sore-eye - 2011-09-14 21:56

    Butch at 10 and FS at 12 would have made the Fijians think twice

      Blou - 2011-09-14 22:03

      Butch at 10????? Must be joking :-)

  • ohsa.online - 2011-09-14 22:01

    Smit should be starting from the bench ... Bismarck is by FAR the better hooker and all round player.

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-15 05:40

      @ohsa.online. And that is why Snorre is resting Bismarck. For the play-offs. Or am I totally overestimating Snorre's strategic capabilities now?

  • Bokke.Fan - 2011-09-14 22:02

    Where are bismark, alberts and hougard. We saw what happened when they came on. Morne Steyn must go, the backline just doesn't move foreword with him and his defense is shocking to say the least. Why not give Lambie or Butch a go at 10?

      WHAT - 2011-09-14 22:43

      bokkie baie eenvoudig... butchi kan tackle ni.. butchi kan ni skop ni.. butchi kan ni hardloop ni.. butchi kan ni saamwerk ni.. butchi kan ni & butchi kan ni...sorry mati, ma jy moet jou poster van butchi nou maar afhaal en iemand meer betroubaar, konstant & wat kan saamwerk in d game plan, opplak iemand soos...jou ouma??

      BlueRaven - 2011-09-14 22:55

      Bokke.Fan I bet you are also a Sharks fan. Lambie and Butch were given a chance remember? Morne is our first choice flyhalf. Deal with it.

  • Neutralist - 2011-09-14 22:07

    If Smit doesn't run onto the ball at full speed in this game, he will get hurt.

  • Rob Jones - 2011-09-14 22:10

    @ Sharkbite I dont think the team full of telly tubbies will march anywhere near the semi finals.Feels good to be the number 1 rugby team in the World year after year after year after year. I guess you havent had that feeling yet sharkbite ,and probably never will with such a divided team. Must be nearly time for to go to bed. Turn on the Electric fence, make sure the dogs are fizzed up,Make sure all the kids doors are locked. Make sure you have the Glock in your side table, and the AK 47 under the bed . Sleep well what a way to live jeeeeez

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-14 22:27

      Ah, thanks for caring about my safety Rob, that's so sweet of you!!!! I should probably add in my last reply to your drivel that the comment you just made shows what a sick human being you are. You're right, what a way to live, and yet we get through it, even when we lose family members to murder (yes, this has happened to me). The crime stats in our country has f all to do with rugby. If you can't talk rugby, f off. You obviously know nothing about rugby and therefore need to be a troll to get attention on blogs like this. So this is my last repky to you - talk rugby and leave the state of our country and the fact that we go to bed scared for our families' lives every night, out of this.

      sa4ever - 2011-09-14 22:48

      that comment is just wrong Rob, you cant win the rugby comments in this site, so now you go into something that realy hurts the South Africans, realy insensitive and a real idiot!!! I was born in NZ and moved to SA when I was 15, I'm 24 now and believe me this country has a lot more to offer than NZ, still go back there every two year to visit family, NZ definitly one of the most beautiful countries in the world, but also one of the most boring countries in the world! Still love the country but will never go back, so dont come on this site( what are you anyway doing on an SA site??? SAD!! oh but wait... NZ forums boring!) and start taking SA people on about the crime that is unsensitive and wrong, this article is about rugby!!!

      RandomDude - 2011-09-15 00:29

      O you're a AB fan .. lol. There you go Rob, this is what you get for being the #1 ranked team ...http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xzMDwk1CW2o/TSRRGZaY1hI/AAAAAAAAAKA/GJoInScydWw/s200/noddy-badge%255B2%255D.jpg We're happy with the Webb Ellis ..I know you prob have no idea what that one looks like .. here google it ... you'll notice us all over .. http://www.google.com/search?q=webb+ellis+cup&hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1C1SKPL_enUS428US428&prmd=imvnsu&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=0ClxTqCuAYi4tgfuvcmTCg&ved=0CDkQsAQ&biw=1600&bih=809

  • mario.borchards - 2011-09-14 22:28

    one need speed and a good system to beat Fiji because I dont think we can match those GIANTS physically.

  • aland - 2011-09-14 22:39

    I hope snorballas has recently watched Boks Fiji from Marseille in 2007, like I did from the stands that day. They going to have to play for 80 minutes and there is a high risk of snorballas forking up with his substitution timings. Should have started with Bismark, Chilli on the bench, and Smit given a rest. Bakkies on the bench, on for the last 20 minutes, maybe Alberts filling in a lock as a stop gap.

  • Johann - 2011-09-14 22:44

    Well, one match in and it looks like this??!! .............I'm a bit worried, but "on the other hand Darren", it might just be the way to go. Still reckon Boks by double figures

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-14 22:48

      Push the play :)

      Lance - 2011-09-15 13:28

      I think the injuries are all part of a clever player rotation system...So far so good.

  • Sore-eye - 2011-09-14 22:48

    Smit should put the Boks first and privately tell Snor to put Bismark in. If there's a massive crisis, pull Smit on for his calm head and inspiration. All symapthies for Smit; he's in a terrible position. But it's time for him to do what's right. His incredible career is going to end in tatters. This saga can only end in tears. We're living history in the making. We've had two debacles at RWCs that could have been avoided. '99 Teich left at home for Skinstad. '03 Staaldraad and weak leadership by Corne/ Streuli. And now 2011, Smit going a bridge too far. But he can still rescue matters. Do the right thing, Cappie.

  • WHAT - 2011-09-14 22:51

    Almal het nou al opsies gegee vir 'n alternatief op slot.. maar wat as ons johnyboy op slot speel saam met danie/bakkies, sou 1 van hulle seer kry, dan kan bissi weer voluit hakker speel hmmm?? dog ma net...

  • WHAT - 2011-09-14 23:01

    Ek dink ons almal wag om te sien of bambie die' toets gaan slaag... kan hy die' fiji/samoa tipe ouens keer?? kan hy ten minste net die helfte afstand kry van enige vd steyns?? kan hy by die lyn inval en aanval?? sterkte ou bok-skapie, ons hou jou dop.

  • Bok-USA - 2011-09-14 23:02

    I can't believe that after Hougard's peformance last week that he is not starting. He should play the full 80 min. What is RP doing on the bench? Aplon is so much better.

      aland - 2011-09-14 23:41

      I can't believe PdV kept his job for 4 years, no leadership, no direction, no forward planning, no razor and no tape over his gob.

  • Northern Stormer - 2011-09-14 23:02

    Sterkte Bokke - hoop julle maak ons trots - Ek is n et bekommerd oor die slak op no 9 en turnstile op no 10. Fidji gaan ons daar aanvat en dan moet die loosies weer keer vir al wat hulle werd is !!!

      WHAT - 2011-09-15 10:16

      schalk speel 7, poe.hol ni 9 ni en wat het jy teen jaques?? oja hy dra 13 nie 10! regte doffel vani kape. moet net se' as ons moet help....

  • Dan - 2011-09-14 23:03

    Bismark must be fuming!

  • Davearch - 2011-09-14 23:21

    Well at least Alberts, Bismark, Hougaard, De Jong and Aplon will be fresh for the 1/4 .. if we get there !!!

  • Rob Jones - 2011-09-14 23:40

    @Shark Shark just wondering if all the South African players look like Telly Tubbies because they sit round in locked houses all day.MY hopes are definetly with Wales ,and Samoa to move through. Wales will beat Samoa this weekend. Then Samoa will be totally fizzed up for Boks ,and take them down. Shark by the way your problems in the Country flow into your Rugby Team. You cant have a divided nation ,and a cohesivie Rugby Team. I have been to South Africa four times. I have many good South African Friends here who have also lost family that is why they got out. They said the best thing they did in their lives was to leave as sad as it was. So they could begin to live again.

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-15 00:50

      @Rob. I also left SA. I have my reasons as well and they might or might not be the same as what you are going on about - it's irrelevant in this forum. So do you have anything to say about rugby? Doesn't look like it. P##ss off this article then and go comment on women24. If you want to stay on here, have RUGBY comments. Do you know what rugby is? Should I draw pictures? If Wales want to move through at the expense of SA, they will need to win every remaining game with a bonus point, and hope SA loses a game. If SA just win the rest of their games (which they have a very good chance of doing), even without picking up one single bonus point, they go through. Plus, Samoa have a good chance of beating Wales, AGAIN. Then it is bye-bye Wales. I think you saw the draw and saw your beloved pretty-boy AB's might meet our "telly-tubbie" Boks in the semi's. Are you scared that you will be knocked out in the semi's again? Sounds like it. (Oh and watch out for the purple Tellytubbie. He's lethal)

      Kleinboet - 2011-09-15 03:49

      @ Chrissie mommies boy in Oz HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ou fris Chris, bietjie van 'n humeur probleempie? Wat kan jy m@er? Jou foxterrier of jou vrou?

      Kevin - 2011-09-15 06:59

      Rob Jones. In South Africa we are happy World Champions and will be for the next 4 years. Wales on the other hand cannot play Rugby, Soccer or Cricket . The Welsh are the ones locked up in there houses because of the weather. We lie in front of the pool in glorious sunshine .Now and then we stand up and polish the Webb Ellis trophy. Tell me ,are the Welsh good at anything or do they just exist?

      Jack - 2011-09-15 08:33

      Another "geelbek" Kiwi wannabe!! No. 1 and no world cups in 24 years and counting !!!

  • pants - 2011-09-15 00:05

    Why the F. is John Smit still in the starting line up? Let Chilli Boy start and have Bismark on then bench if needs be. Smit ads no value, Nada Nothing Zilch.

  • BoerSeun - 2011-09-15 03:57

    looks good

  • Kleinboet - 2011-09-15 03:59

    Ek like dit dat daar 7 Bulls (of is dit 8) in die 22-tal is en slegs 3 van die WP. Sal dit nie wonderlik wees as die Bulle 'n verdere trofee, die Worldcup, in hul enorme impressive trofeekas kan bere nie. But then again, die Bulle het reeds die 2007 WC gewen

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-15 08:02

      Troll. Maar terwyl jy nou besig is daarmee: in die 2007 wereldbeker finaal, was daar 5 Bulls en 5 Sharks in die starting XV, en 9 Sharks en 6 Bulls in die 22. In hierdie game is daar 5 Sharks en 6 Bulls in die starting XV, en 7 Bulls en 8 Sharks in die 22. En weet jy wat, dit maak minder as nul saak, ons praat nou oor die BOKKE, kan mense nie net die Bokke support sonder om die provinsies in dit in te bring nie? Of is jy so sad dat jou hele bestaan om die Bulle draai?

  • Rob Jones - 2011-09-15 04:53

    Makes pretty reading if you are an All Black fan. Have held the number 1 spot longer than all other teams combined. The New Zealand men's national rugby union team, often called the All Blacks, represent New Zealand in international rugby union competitions. Rugby union is regarded as New Zealand's national sport.[1] Winners of the inaugural Rugby World Cup, New Zealand are the leading points scorers of all time and the only international rugby team with a winning record against every test nation they have ever played. The All Blacks have held the top ranking in the world for longer than all other countries combined[2] and in over 100 years only five of the top twenty ranked test rugby nations have ever beaten New Zealand.[3] New Zealand competes annually with Australia and South Africa in the Tri Nations competition, winning the trophy a record ten times in its 16 year history. They are the current holders of the Bledisloe Cup, competed for annually with Australia, the Freedom Cup, contested annually with South Africa, and have completed a Grand Slam four times (in 1978, 2005, 2008 and 2010), The All Blacks have won a record 75% of all rugby matches they have ever played since 1903 and they were named the International Rugby Board (IRB) Team of the Year in 2005, 2006, 2008 and a record fourth time in 2010.[4] Their captain, Richie McCaw is the International Rugby Board Player of the Year for a record third time and fifteen former All Blacks have been inducted

      RandomDude - 2011-09-15 05:18

      and they never won the RWC, and no 87 didn't count . Like I said above you get the noddy badge for your accomplishments we get the title world champs and the #1 piece of silverware in the sport . I know how you must feel though we also told ourselves we're #1 ranked in cricket whenever we choked come the CWC to ease the pain... Didn't take it quite as far as you going to Aus & NZ websites . This is how important the #1 ranking is to teams other than the ABs .. they don't give two sits about it ..they would throw a test or a series of tests just to get a better shot at the only bragging right that counts in the sport ,the world champs. But you know what, win the WC and then come back and brag about your team and I'd be the first to tip my hat to the 2011 world champs. Until then keep a low profile because you're just going to look like a tit again if you end up choking ...esp at home.

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 05:28

      Rob, in 100 years nobody will give a rat's @ss about all your achievements. All everybody will remember is 124 years without a world cup.

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-15 06:14

      @Rob Jones. Yes everything you copied and pasted is true. And yes NZ won the 1987 World Cup irrespective of SA's absence or not. But since we are really only talking about the World Cup here, let me entertain you a bit: New Zealand has a 100% record against only 1 WC winner, England, in the history of the WC. Further to this NZ has a 100% record against the following teams: Italy, Fiji, Argentina, Scotland, Wales USA, Canada, Ireland, Japan, Tonga, Portugal and Romania. Not exactly a list of world-beaters. Now, against France (who has never won the world cup), NZ have a 50% record. Against your favourite Tellytubbies, the Boks, the AB's have a 33% record. And the AB's have never won a WC game against the Wallabies. And that should tell you everything about the AB's at the WC when they play quality oposition. No matter how good they are, and every true Bok suporter will be the first to acknowledge that the AB's have always been one of the best in the world, their WC record is pretty poor. All real (unlike yourself) All Black supporters will easily trade all those records for just one additional RWC trophy.

      Kevin - 2011-09-15 07:13

      How many World Cups? Who are the current World Champions? South Africa will win this year. All Blacks are better known as the CHOKERS. Just watch this year.

      bullincapeto - 2011-09-15 10:31

      BUT the Cup of Dreams remains just that, a dream. Mass depression again when it eludes you in 2011 again. Cough, splutter, choke.

  • King Mark - 2011-09-15 05:29

    Spies...gets stopped in his tracks...often, if you want to be a jono lomo you have to grow a bit more both ways...his attitude is rgt? but the arms don't hang to the floor....and the legs are not tree trunks...more work in the gym...en eet die pap...you'll get there Spies

  • Andre - 2011-09-15 05:51

    Julle klomp tetkoppe het glads te veel te sê en weet te min!Dis rugby world cup etterkepse, los die manne dat hulle jol!Slag hulle na die tyd as hulle nie die job gedoen het nie, maar vir nou is die net BOKKE BOKKE BOKKE - maak nie saak wie in watter posisie speel nie!

      Chris in Oz - 2011-09-15 06:34

      So jy is ook een van jou sogenaamde tetkoppe? Weet te min en se te veel.

  • Mark907 - 2011-09-15 06:30

    Bismark must be best hooker who sits on bench while Smit plays

  • Claude - 2011-09-15 06:31

    It looks like Helium Hoender is trying his Horses for Courses policy. This team should work against Fiji but it is way off our best combination. If it works well and he persists we could come unstuck later. I agree that Aplon's size counts against him but too many people under rate him and that can be an advantage.

  • Kevin - 2011-09-15 06:40

    What is Morne Steyn doing in the team ? Div ,you must be hard up

      Bruce Dundee - 2011-09-15 07:17

      Idiot. He's the best you've got at the moment.

  • Worldchamp - 2011-09-15 07:51

    Good team, like the idea of F Steyn on senter.Go bokke

  • Hannes van der Linde - 2011-09-15 08:03

    I can understand why Div wants to beef up the midfield so I agree partly with selecting Frans next to Fourie but on the other hand Fourie and De Jongh has played together as a combination on many occasions. They know each other and De Jongh CAN tackle. Lambie at fullback is exciting, he always looks for work. What I do not agree with is Odwa, Hougaard would have been a better call. And rushing bakkies back??

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-15 08:23

      Frans and Jaque won the World Cup in this combination remember? I think for Fiji and Samoa this combo is better. I rate Juan very highly, but the number 1 thing in this game will be defense. I'm not saying Juan isn't good on defense, in fact, he's very solid. I just think Frans is "scarier", for lack of a better word. Completely agree on the rest of your points, Lambie is solid on defense and always looking for work, Hougaard definitely deserves to start ahead of Ndungane, who shouldn't even be there, and I don't know if Bakkies is 100% fit, or if it was just mind games?

      Hannes van der Linde - 2011-09-15 13:10

      I do remember. But they haven't played together in a long time.... here's hoping. Looking forward to Ndungane breaking a leg (as a figure of speech of course).

  • Jenny - 2011-09-15 08:48

    LMFAO @ 14, 8 and 2. What a joke!

  • otse - 2011-09-15 09:03

    john smit eish

  • Worldchamp - 2011-09-15 09:08

    I think the beast belongs in the wilderness, not the pitch.

  • ohannah - 2011-09-15 09:09

    Du Preez, Spies...show ponies who are waaaay out of form; they wouldn't make any other top side

  • Ploppy - 2011-09-15 09:53

    GRAHAM DAVIDSON is pretending to study in the library while reading the Mills and Boon novels!

  • HM - 2011-09-15 10:44

    Ja boys a lot of players out of position if you want to win the world cup you need to be able to play players out of position as injuries will happen. The one thing I can say 2007 against Fiji if we didn't bring back John Smit in the last 20 minutes we would have lost he changed the game still a good capatin whose game is not 100% hopefully he will regain some form as the cup goes on. Go Bokke

  • rodbod@24.com - 2011-09-15 10:56

    The one guy I would definitely have replaced was Pietersen who has forgotten how to tackle and hasnt done much recently - except when the odd opportinistic try is offered to him.Against Fiji you are going to need tacklers!

  • Daisy - 2011-09-15 11:50

    Francois Hougaard has that X-factor & would play him anywhere. This guy has energy to burn & I would even play him at 8 instead of that useless Spies. Go Bokke.