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Kings may get royal treatment

2012-10-04 22:36

Cape Town - Southern Kings coach Matt Sexton says they expect to be allowed to use six foreign players in next year's Super Rugby competition.

The Kings recently asked the South African Rugby Union (SARU) to allow them to use more than the two allowed foreign players in the Southern Hemisphere showpiece.

The Kings will play in the Super event next year at the expense of the Lions, but the threat of a possible promotion-relegation match straight after the tournament has necessitated them to do all they can to boost their player ranks.

Earlier this week they signed Argentina scrumhalf Nicolas Vergallo and Blues back Hadleigh Parkes.

SARU last week said an announcement on the exact number of foreign players the Kings will be allowed to use will be made later this month.

But Sexton told the stuff.co.nz website they will be looking to field six foreign players.

"They've had to allow us more foreign players. I think they're going to allow us six," he said. "The circumstances we've been put in have made it very difficult so they've given us a bit of flexibility. We're looking at a few Argentinean players that are currently in the Rugby Championship."

He also feels the threat of promotion-relegation is not ideal as history shows that a team playing Super Rugby in its first year normally struggles.

"That makes it double difficult; you've got the dinner cleaver hanging over your head at the end of the season if things don't go according to plan.

"We've got to take a positive stance on things and say we're not going to be the last in the conference. Hopefully it all comes together and we won't have to worry about relegation," the New Zealander said.

Other recent signings from the Kings include local players Demetri Catrakilis (WP flyhalf), Andries Strauss (Cheetahs centre) and Steven Sykes (Sharks lock). Lions hooker Bandise Maku is also reportedly on the PE-based union's books, although the signing still needs to be officially confirmed.

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Comments
  • justin.roper.3705 - 2012-10-04 22:50

    There goes our young guns over sees, thanks cheeky nd puke watson for chasing talented guys away, u wanted in the super rugby nd use local players, so what's wrong with the local boys now????? Don't they puke on the jerseys like puke does?????

      luke.sportify - 2012-10-05 10:28

      what are you going on about Justin??? clueless.com

      japjapjap.wat - 2012-10-05 11:29

      BOIKOT di watson gemors! meelbomme & betogings & riots?? die kern van saru is vrot- gooi hulle uit en suiwer di kwaad uit.......

      Dwerg - 2012-10-05 13:01

      You still have Luke Watson's story wrong. Ignoramus SANZAR will not allow the Kings to transgress the rules, if they view themselves as a respectable governing body. Somehow I don't see the Kings' political influence stretch that far.

      KennySven - 2012-10-06 12:37

      Justin,I agree with you 100%. A tip for puke and his local boy's, eat sweets before and during the game so when Watson insists you puke it doesn't taste to bad.

  • Jimmy NZ - 2012-10-04 22:51

    Saffa teams should just not play against the clowns! Stike! I'm sure the Auzzies and Kiwi's will follow suit! Will save us the extra 10 points every other SA team will get! If it wasn't so sad I'd put a smiley face!

      suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-10-05 07:31

      Are you one of the clowns who claim to be from that boring country? go shag some sheep you idiot

      jaco.groenewald.731 - 2012-10-05 07:43

      Agreed Jimmy, but we both know that will never happen, too much politics in our sport!!!

      deon.fouche.3 - 2012-10-05 08:24

      Jimmy, playing against the Kings is like a warm-up game. You can give your A-team a rest and play some other players - a good thing to play against the queens

  • jimi.harrison.7 - 2012-10-04 22:58

    I would have supported the kings whenever they played a foreign team, but now? I hope they loose every single game! So much for local talent!!

      jaco.groenewald.731 - 2012-10-05 07:45

      I think for the first time in the history of rugby, a SA team will have less support from other unions than the Bulls????

      jaco.groenewald.731 - 2012-10-05 07:49

      Abenathi it’s the way things was done to get them there!!!! That’s what’s ticking off the public, I am a Bulls supporter and always support my country. Even the Stormers get my voice when they play an Aus or NZ team. But the KINGS??? No Thank you!!!!

      luke.sportify - 2012-10-05 10:30

      please explain why Jimi, you of obviously completely clueless as to why they have asked for 6 foreign players Idiot

  • keith.gough - 2012-10-04 23:00

    For years we have heard of the rich pool of talent in the Eastern Cape, and it now turns out they will be Argentina B .

      charlietlo - 2012-10-05 10:24

      more like Pampas B or Jaguars B

      luke.sportify - 2012-10-05 10:32

      There is a rich pool of talent in the EC, 57 EC players playing in Super Rugby for the other 5 teams. All players are currently in contract so you expect the Kings to use their u/19/21's??? Do us all a favour and rather keep your comments to yourself, because you are embarresing yourself on here...

  • zwartsj - 2012-10-04 23:14

    What the f.....I thought the reason the kings wanted to play was so EP players can play at home. Explain to me how a player from Argentina is playing at home in P.E

      leon.lemaitre.9 - 2012-10-05 12:26

      Is it not typical of our country? Politics above sport, to hell with the current Currie Cup champions and log leaders, to hell with the province who has won the Currie Cup more often than all except the Bulls and Province, to hell with the province who has produced the third most Springboks of all provinces! It's all about Cheeky (what an appropriate name) Watson's ego and his ANC pals, certainly not about rugby, and DEFINITELY NOT about development, just look at who they are buying and the fact that they want 6 overseas payersl! I used to support the Lions and everyone who played against the Bulls, now it's everyone who plays against the kings, yes, with a small k!

  • richard.lemmer1 - 2012-10-04 23:14

    Utter Bullsh@@%$%$T !!!! They should not allow them any ! Is this about South Africa or not ! May they end up with 10 players total halfway through the season !!!

      japjapjap.wat - 2012-10-05 11:06

      this is only about 2 things..... cheeky and puke, nothing else matters for these scum

  • gwvickers - 2012-10-04 23:25

    So tell me you CHEEKY little man, were the hell is your so called transformation in SA rugby that you were bragging about, oh I get it, transformation of overseas players and not SA black players

  • gordon.turner.37 - 2012-10-04 23:27

    Brilliant from cheeky Watson. Put 6-10 South Africans out of work for the sake of foreigners in his pet project. If the Kings are for development of eastern cape rugby, then pick locals and do your best. Wtf does this prove?

      johan.coetzee.7127 - 2012-10-05 08:00

      Were you not aware of the fact that the plan is that Cheeky is going to put his boots on again and they will also have a guaranteed win in every match as Puke will be taking over as referee as he always proves to know more than the referee.In fact he might just summon support from Cheeky to 'red' card the referee if they do not agree on decisions made.

  • sean.brady.14224 - 2012-10-04 23:35

    You would think the number limit on overseas players would be a SANZAR decision? Cheeky should ask for a bonus point for two tries in 2013 while he's at it...

      oclee62 - 2012-10-05 08:15

      Melbourne Rebels were allowed 10 overseas players for the 1st 2 seasons. This number will be reduced to 2 overseas players in the next few years. So if Kings get more than 2 overseas it is not something new

      hamish.drake1 - 2012-10-05 08:33

      @oclee, The Rebels never claimed to have had an un-tapped treasure trove of young talent. The only reason that the Kings got their franchise (apart from ANC interference) was that they promised a young "black" team. We didn't realize that they ment New Zealanders.

  • derick.pauls - 2012-10-04 23:41

    I cannot believe the Kings, they wanted to be in the first division to expose local talent now they want to play 6 overseas players....WTF?

      johan.coetzee.7127 - 2012-10-08 13:59

      That,s seven as they already have the thing ,Perez,.

  • peter.mansfield.395 - 2012-10-04 23:42

    I thought the whole purpose of advancing the Kings was to give local black players the opportunities they deserved. So why replace them with foreigners? OK , if the "foreigners" are from Africa (e.g. Gauteng, as opposed to overseas) that is a different story.

  • jeancollinsmulivha - 2012-10-05 00:15

    Yea! No problem with forein player..bt i hate it when kiwi coach take over,what abwt local coach.

  • nash.britz - 2012-10-05 00:21

    Wasn't the reason to allow local players to play super rugby? Guess money talks in the end. Transformation out of window. Windowdressing

  • louwc - 2012-10-05 00:54

    Pukey Watson's dad made a plea to the governing body to be allowed to field the Kings above the Lions, one big reason was all the tallent in the Eastern Cape that goes unnoticed and devloping the sport in the region. Now they want to have just about half the team to be foreigners!??? And the rest is made up from Stromers, Cheetahs and Lions? I mean really?

      louwc - 2012-10-05 01:37

      My reasoning Abe is - You lobby the powers that be to get the Kings in the Super rugby arena based on developing the Eastern Cape talent, then u go and buy half your team from overseas and the other half from other provinces, do u understand the term hypocrite? And this from someone that apparently fought against raciall discrimanation in sport - why does he not do what he said he would do and use the local tallent that he said he wanted to develop instead of buying overseas players?

      beau.schoeman - 2012-10-05 09:23

      Dear Abernathi, there is a huge difference between progression and 'free handouts or freebees'. The results at the end of the season will hopefully indicate to you what I was conveying to your way of thinking. I just feel so sorry for the local Eastern Cape players who have yet again been pushed aside because of some political influential individuals with hidden agenda's. Local is always loyal. Please look after our up and coming young talent.

  • Phil.Kleynhans - 2012-10-05 01:02

    Sorry EP Kings u dont deserve to be in super rugby. Now getting foreigners make SA rugby worse. SARU you are F*cked up. You are a disgrace to SA rugby

      charlietlo - 2012-10-05 10:49

      @abenathi i think Griquas deserve it more that the kings

  • john.latilla - 2012-10-05 01:05

    Ha ha ha!! Developing local talent everywhere but in EP - I like that! Typical Watson and SARU political shenanigans. I wish them the very worst for 2013! By the way I am NOT a Lions fan!

      joubert.joep - 2012-10-05 04:27

      Problem is they are there because of all the local talent - that was their reason for entering "development". Now Puke is going to have to play most positions and Cheeky might consider putting on his boots again too... LOL Where are the people they developed - they should play noy Argentina but SA

  • gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-05 05:24

    SARU are going to cause big k*k if they allow this!!

  • warren.carne.9 - 2012-10-05 05:24

    The whole point of the Kings was to develop black rugby talent? WTF?

  • JOHNY63 - 2012-10-05 05:31

    When are we going to realize that Rugby is not a sport any more but a lucrative business. Big bosses (SARU etc) and the players get stinking rich. The same with all other sport except maybe Athletics a few others.

  • Leon Spamers - 2012-10-05 06:01

    It should be fair game for everyone! Superugby is a professional sport and should not be about development of any sorts! Leave that to the Currie Cup. We want to see the best players on the park!

  • Marcel Marais - 2012-10-05 06:12

    I agree the lions did not do well in super rugby so lets give the kings a chance but why the bloody hell go and get players from other countrys south africa has got a lot of grate talent a specialy in E.P!!

  • markus.hugo.71 - 2012-10-05 06:29

    So the competition will consist of 5 x NZ teams, 5 x AUS teams, 4 x SA teams and 1 x Barbarian team?

      japjapjap.wat - 2012-10-05 11:16

      een ding moet ons mooi verstaan...di puke spannetjie is NI 'n suid-afrikaanse span NI?? en hoe moet di oos kapenaars nou voel, om 'n klomp argenteine en neeu-zeelanders te ondersteun met 'n dom britse afrigter en dit teen hulle eie mense??

  • jean.rossouwsa - 2012-10-05 06:39

    SA Rugby , hoe de HEL slaap julle nadat julle n SA span uitgooi uit Super Rugby en hierdie Barberians insit!!!!! so n SA Lions span is slegter vir SA Rugby as n SA span vol buitelandse spelers..??!!!

      johan.coetzee.7127 - 2012-10-05 07:35

      Ek kry so lekker,Cheeky en Puke se gatte knyp al klaar en die seisoen het nog nie eers begin nie.As hy vir ander talent soek hoekom kry hy nie n paar swartspelers by die SA vrouespan nie i p v oorsee miskien sal hulle beter vaar as die mans,Dan kan hy rerig spog met transformasie.Ja,wys jou nou net hulle dink al klaar hulle is nie opgewasse vir 'goeie' Rugby nie. Leeus bo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      japjapjap.wat - 2012-10-05 11:17

      'n regte barbaarse queen span di??

  • gavin.simpson.0 - 2012-10-05 06:39

    Boooooo!

  • claude.felbert - 2012-10-05 06:44

    Precedents are extremely dangerous and usually have unseen consequences. Foreign players in any number will be bad for the sport. A concession where a particular position, in these particular circumstances, can't be filled locally might be in order, but nothing else should be acceptable.

  • Peter Zylstra - 2012-10-05 06:45

    @Mthunzi. Development is all about local talent of which gatkruip watson boasted he had plenty. Now where are these guys? This is a slap in the face for the local players!

  • claude.felbert - 2012-10-05 06:48

    When the promotion relegation match comes along - and it is likely to - is the competing team also going to be able to use foreign players?

  • terence.wessels.1 - 2012-10-05 06:49

    So the whole reason for all the fighting to let the Kings play was to develop rugby in the EP. WTF are they actually developing by buying all their players from different regions and overseas ....

      Marvin.ThomasSA - 2012-10-05 07:18

      Do you think the current crop of players would win matches in super sugby next year?

      ryan.stephen.07 - 2012-10-05 11:51

      No, that's why they shouldn't have been let in.

  • shorcha.visser - 2012-10-05 07:14

    Wonderful we remove a team with local players, add a team without merit to give the money to overseas players..at what stage did this start sounding like a stupid idea ?

      johan.wilsnach - 2012-10-05 07:31

      Shorka this is the new SA where you don't have to work for anything. And yes this government will do any thing to spite the whites in this country.

      ryan.stephen.07 - 2012-10-05 11:53

      The thing is, they do everything they can to spite the whites, even if it screws over their own people at the same time. They don't seem to care

  • johan.wilsnach - 2012-10-05 07:23

    There is a rule concerning foreign players in this compo. Why does SARU want to wait till next month to make a ruling? These clows who did not even earn their place in this compo now want to start making requests/demands on SARU and those clowns want to play along. Rugby is a business and as I have told L. Luyt before the 94 world cup. Rugby is bigger than you all. Rugby has been long before you and will still exist long after you. Let these clowns earn their keep. Watch it that you don't start losing your sponsors. I have developed many children at school level but do not support the game any longer due to all your nonsense.

  • raymond.buis.3 - 2012-10-05 07:28

    Do any of you guys think the lions would have been in last place if they were allowed six foreign players?

      terry.burne - 2012-10-05 07:52

      From what I understand, I don't think the Lions could afford 6 foreign players. Having said that, I think that the Lions have/had a lot of good players and I don't think second rate overseas players would be any better than what they had. I can't really understand why the Lions have had a poor few seasons in S15 - they have some good players, and on occasion (as the Sharks well know) the Lions have upped their game and on any given day they could match almost any team in the S15 competition.

      bongumusa.shozi - 2012-10-05 09:14

      If the kings are allowed 6 then the other unions should be allowed six. If they are allowed 6 players then the team under threat would be the cheetahs as they hav limited resources

      bongumusa.shozi - 2012-10-05 09:15

      If the kings are allowed 6 then the other unions should be allowed six. If they are allowed 6 players then the team under threat would be the cheetahs as they hav limited resources

      charlietlo - 2012-10-05 11:04

      @bongumusa i dont think we will be under threat, we might have limited resources but we use them well, we might not succeed but we try our best...PROUDLY SOUTH AFRICAN.... PROOD CHEETAH FAN

      charlietlo - 2012-10-05 11:05

      PROUD CHEETAH FAN

  • raymond.buis.3 - 2012-10-05 07:28

    Do any of you guys think the lions would have been in last place if they were allowed six foreign players?

  • terry.burne - 2012-10-05 07:47

    I thought Alan Solomons was coaching the Kings ..... yeah, that guy who tried to put Jake White in his place back in the Mallet years by telling everyone that Jake White was nothing more than the team video analyst. Life's a bitch hey Solomons ....... how the wheel turns! Now even the Kings seem to have booted you out.

      leon.lemaitre.9 - 2012-10-05 12:35

      Solomons ...... the has-been who never was!

  • simon.lacey.167 - 2012-10-05 07:50

    This is really disappointing, The whole point of their inclusion was to showcase the local talent in the area, They have now realized that the talent pool in their region is not as deep as originally thought and now have to look elsewhere. Ideally the Kings should have played consistently at a higher level (Currie cup premier division) before being considered for S15 inclusion, let's be honest we all saw this coming.....

  • philip.mostert.14 - 2012-10-05 07:52

    No no no! Not good for sa rugby to get a bunch of foreigners

  • DSBennie - 2012-10-05 07:53

    Can't wait for their first domestic away game, the booing is going to be awesome! (^o^)/

  • terence.v.byrne - 2012-10-05 08:13

    i will never ever support this team , GO Bulls , cheetahs , sharks an Lions but this farce of a team that used its political statues an connections to get where it is. an now they have the nerve to ask the lions for there players. I hope they end stone cold last an lions kill them in the play offs

  • tommy.jones.754918 - 2012-10-05 08:30

    My old Pitsonderwater High School team wants to play in the Super Rugby Tournament, as they have the local players to do so. In addition they have signed contracts with a least 6 International Players and bought 10 players from other Provinces. The Head Master said he was previously disadvantaged and always voted for the "right" party - and that should count some points. Also, his little annoying little boy once almost puked on our national rugby jersey - which apparently should also count points with the locals. Now SARU, if you give my old team a couple of mil. rands, you can make our dream come true.

  • glen.clark.37669 - 2012-10-05 08:34

    What the hell have "The Watsons" got over Saru and Hoskins that they are getting everything they want to try to avoid a relegation mach with the Lions next year???? They know they should have had a relegation match this year if all was fair! Then they say that the Lions weren't playing the game by not releasing most of our players to them - as was their understanding with Saru! If most of our players were supposed to go to them why call them the "Kings"? This joke must be making us a laughing stock overseas. What happens if the lowest team in each conference now asks for more players to make them more "competitive"? The Kings knew they were never going to be competitive with their "home pla yers" and now are scrambling! Shame, the levels SA Rugby is sinking to! Danie Craven must be spinning in his grave!

  • rossouw.nadia - 2012-10-05 08:40

    How the hell does SARU justify dropping the Lions and allowing a new franchise to bring in 6 international players? How does that develop the rugby standards in our country? No wonder the guys are running overseas! By SARU should be the 1 that gets dropped!

      loretzw - 2012-10-05 09:28

      Dis 'n pot snot wat SARU nou doen om 6 ander spelers van buiteland toe te laat. Dan huil hulle oor volgende jaar sd relegasie \game\??? Wat van 'n plek in \Currie beker\ uit speel wedstryd??? Nou kan ekbsaam Kevin de Klerk stem, hulle almal is maatjies, of agter mekaar kêrels!!!!!!

  • clayton.kleynhans - 2012-10-05 08:54

    You Idoits, its about survival for the 1st year, Robbie Kempson heads the Academy with great talent coming through, Kings signing up and coming black Wing from Grey PE, he nearly went to the Blue Bulls but decided to stay at the Kings!! Thats why you have an academy to secure and nuture local talent. If it was all about the money they would not sign all the palyers that they are signing and come match day they would field a weak and inexperienced team!! Whats the piont of that? All the other Unions nuture you own F*cking talent, we not asking you to support the KINGS, change the channel...there are 4 other teams you can support.....EC deserves to be there, the lions had there chance and ended way last on the log for many seasons! Have any of you actually spoken to people in the EC and heard what this means to them? Do any of you go to the stadiums on matchday and support "your" teams or do you just sit on your posh expensive couch and watch on your big flat screen tv?? EP KINGS ON THE RISE!!!!

      tommy.jones.754918 - 2012-10-05 09:07

      It's not the fact that they are playing in the Super Series that's the problem - it's the way hey wiggled their way into the Series that's the problem.

      thatishi - 2012-10-05 10:25

      The Kings didn't wiggle themselves anywhere. They were promised a place in Super rugby long ago. Anyone remember the Spears? The big boys fought their inclusion, until now when SARU put their foot down. But they have been handed a poisoned chalice. How are they expected to be competitive and developmental in 1 season? The only solution is to contract established stars and secure their place. Then slowly field developmental players in the 1st team. If they had been given at least 3 years probation, they could field as many of those development players, get hammered, and gain experience. Then after that be told to compete with the other unions on an equal footing. So, perhaps those opposing this should tell us how it should have been handled any better, considering it's been at least 5 years since they were 1st promised a spot in Super rugby, and the other unions have been blocking it.

      ryan.stephen.07 - 2012-10-05 11:37

      If EC deserves to be there, then why can't you just earn your way there by winning the Currie Cup? You used political connections to worm your way in, at the expense of more deserving players. That is the simple reason why people won't support your team. It doesn't matter how much "it means to them". It would mean a lot to me if I get selected for the Boks, but that doesn't justify me playing dirty politics to force my way in.

  • johan.venter.77964 - 2012-10-05 08:55

    Dont attend their away games. Hosting franchises will then want compensation from SARU for losses or refuse to play them. Job done.

  • delion.green - 2012-10-05 09:00

    Personally I don't think the Southern Kings deserve to be in SuperRugby! Why do I say this.... Hmmm let's jot the points down: 1. They have not qualified to the premier division as yet. 2. Don't you think when qualifying for SuperRugby status that you at least consider another team in the premier division " Griekwas"? 3. What was the purpose of the Southern Kings ... Was it not to give Black players from that region an opportunity to show case their skills and give them the opportunity to better their future prospects? 4. It's a slap in the face how SARU have mislead the public and the unions into believing that this is a black team and bowed to political pressure from Cheeky Watson and his alias in the government. 5.The current team is only 25% black and now we are not even going to use local talent and purchase oversees players It's ludicrous !! I think Mr Cheeky Watson has done a great miss justice to the people and players of Eastern Cape as this team will not be the "Maouri" team of South Africa

  • glen.clark.37669 - 2012-10-05 09:01

    Clayton.Kleynhans, are you from EP? If so your school must be proud of the way they taught you to "spoke" English! "Idoits" & "there" for "their", too many knock on the rugby field?

      clayton.kleynhans - 2012-10-05 09:21

      Hi Glen, sorry for not doing a spell check, and yes I am from the EC!! I didn’t know the point of a forum was to comment on people’s spelling? I made sure that this time I crossed my t’s and dotted my I’s …."to many knock on the rugby field" should it not read," too many knocks on the rugby field" #justsaying

  • garnet.cornell.9 - 2012-10-05 09:21

    What about Cheeky Watson's bragging that he would get players to return home to EP? Obviously his political agenda has helped to chase away players from other areas, and he must make his own bed and sleep in it.

      matt.prinsloo.1 - 2012-10-05 09:25

      Sykes, Mbiyozo, Nokwe, Killian, Dunlop, Duncan, Ferreira, Van Heerden, Bulbring, Watson, Du Preez, Nelson... A few of the names that has already returned to them since Cheeky has been in charge...

  • matt.prinsloo.1 - 2012-10-05 09:27

    How does this compare to the other franchises? Some of the players of colour that hail from the EC regions currently playing elsewhere (only SR Franchises): Mapoe, Jantjies, Mvovo, Ndugane x 2, Mtembu, Sithole, Maku, Basson, Kolisi, Jansen. Players of colour currently in EP Kings squad: Gqoboka, Bholi, Mamojele, Mbiyozo, Abrahams, Grey, Mangweni, Ntleki, Nelson, Nokwe, Sampson, Witbooi, Stick. Have a look at how many is playing in Border and SWD too. Kings have the talent (of all races) in their area. But that talent needs to be groomed and developed first. We can’t expect of them to field a transformation team from the 1\r\nst season. If you want that, send back the first list of players…

      leon.lemaitre.9 - 2012-10-05 12:44

      WHY are they playing elsewhere? I t is because of the incompetence of EC rugby and the politics that reign in the region! If you took all those players of colour you mentioned and put them into one team, they would still amount to nothing because rugby is not what it is all about in the EC anymore.

      matt.prinsloo.1 - 2012-10-05 12:57

      Leon, jy mis my punt. Almal gil oor hoekom Kings nie hul eie talent ontgin nie. Ek probeer net wys daar is BAIE talent van ALLE rasse wat uit Oos Kaap kom. Hoeveel ander unies kan claim dat soveel gekleurde ouens uit hul provinsie kom of in hul span is. Dis n feit dat daar hope en hope swart talent hier is. Mense moet net nie verwag dat Kings hul dadelik kan inspan nie.dit geld vir ander rasse ook. Mens moet hulle eers ontwikkel en voorberei. Dis juis hoekom daar n Kings akademie ook is. Daai ouens het n doelwit nodig om voor te speel, n span om voor te skree, iets om hul eie te noem. By die stembus skei my paadjie van baie van hulle sin, maar langs die veld is ons een. Jy al ooit n Kings game kom kyk? gesien hoe passievol die Zwide en ander swart supporters is? Hulle is net so erg oor hul rugby as enige Blou Bul met horings op sy kop...

      matt.prinsloo.1 - 2012-10-05 13:15

      Why did players leave - No SR. Why are lions players leaving - No SR

  • ingrid.oberholzer - 2012-10-05 09:32

    What about Lions Players that have been dumped how must they feel. This is a shocking state of affaris, just shows it's not what you know it's who you know so typical!!!

  • moederstad.wp - 2012-10-05 10:23

    SARFU, with Hoskins and Waston working hand in hand bending the rules to suite them, at the cost of the Lions. I trust if they end at the bottom of the log the also get relegated again. Pitty SA rugby is run by a bunch of clowns

  • sarel.brits - 2012-10-05 10:26

    Can't wait for the Lions to plow this bunch under 6 imports and all

  • ryan.stephen.07 - 2012-10-05 11:19

    Cheeky Watson is just like the ANC, he gets this power by pretending to represent the disadvantaged of the Eastern Cape. Then in no time we get to see that he's only been trashing everything for his personal gain. It's so sad to think that those Lions players were just beginning to click, players like Jantjies and Taute have just begun to come of age, players like Josh Strauss and Doppies La Grange were turning into great leaders. After the Currie cup success without these players, one feels as if they just needed one more season to finally break the mould and start winning, if they had one more season together under coach Mitchell they could've proven themselves.. But Cheeky Watson used his ANC connections and cut their futures short just before the opportunity came.