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Over-age KZN players exposed

2012-06-08 12:55

Durban - According to reports, a provincial investigation has found eight KwaZulu-Natal schoolboys who are representing their school, provincial and national teams to be over-age.

Among the overage players are Glenwood’s captain and wing and DHS fullback. Both players represented KwaZulu-Natal at the Under-18 Craven Week in 2011. Both boys have since been expelled from their respective schools. Following these findings, the KwaZulu-Natal High Schools Rugby Association started a provincial investigation, according to the SuperSport website.

KwaZulu-Natal head of high school rugby, Noel Ingle, said investigations are ongoing and confirmed that a total of eight over-age players have been identified.

According to Ingle, 320 schoolboys participated in the KwaZulu-Natal Under-16 and Under-18 provincial trials of whom eight players were found to be over-age. Noel is quoted in the media as saying, “Most of those players were a year too old. There were three serious cases, where one player was actually 22-years-old. Saru and Sasra (South African Schools Rugby Association) will determine their punishment.”

He went on to say that all the school teams in the province are now “clean” and said, “the schools are not the issue. To the lesser extent, the players are accountable, but the main problems are the scouts and agents involved, who have probably played a big role in organising fake identity documents. We hope to have this matter sorted out over the next couple of weeks”. Ingle said he believes the issue of over-age players is a national problem and not “an issue within the KwaZulu-Natal province only”.

SuperSport

Comments
  • marcus.daily3 - 2012-06-08 12:59

    Watched the Affies vs Grey College game in Pta a few weeks back....looked like a Springbok trial game! 17 year old 115kg prop? Jeppers!!!

      Ruan - 2012-06-08 14:03

      Its a gim generation these days!! however it is a little shocking that the overage thing is still happening, since 1-3years makes a big difference phisically at school boy level!

  • Barry - 2012-06-08 13:13

    marcus - watched the DHS - Glenwood game in Durban - one DHS player 132 Kg !! Glenwood still won

      Bootman - 2012-06-08 13:42

      Saw that. He played lock. Pity the poor prop that had to lift him in the line-out.

  • Faizie - 2012-06-08 13:19

    Dope testing dudes

  • Kim - 2012-06-08 13:20

    It starts way younger than that - my son plays under 12 soccer and a lot of the boy they play are easily 14 years ol - some of them already have facial hair !

      Bootman - 2012-06-08 13:40

      Steroids will do that to you. Watch when they start developing breasts.

      shelley.southey - 2012-06-08 13:43

      Totally agree with you - starts at primary school levels for sure and it is from here that it should be nipped in the bud!!

      yazeed.khan1 - 2012-06-08 14:45

      My kid plays at under 8 level, some of the kids are over 10 years of age and playing at 8 year old level. You do parents do this to their kids? I would really like to know? Anyone

  • Jody - 2012-06-08 13:33

    Happens everywhere. Can spot these boys at u16 level and you just know something is wrong. KZNRU has opened a can of worms that should have been opened a long time ago. What is impressive is that KZNRU had so many boys at trails, which tells me they giving all the talent a chance. Wake up Lions your trails for boys where a mess with teams already chosen before the trails.

  • Barry - 2012-06-08 14:03

    this story broke weeks ago - Glenwood & DHS acknowedged the problem & took swift action - there is a third school in Durban who have the same problem with a 22 year old rugby player in their 1st team who is still at the school and who has an "ankle problem" so is not playing at this time - rumour has it that the same school had a 20+ boy playing in their u16 team - a clue - one of the 4 points on a compass - one of the statements in this lead story " all schools in the province are now clean" --not a chance !!

      Advocatus.Diabolis - 2012-06-08 14:27

      NORTHWOOD???

      Advocatus.Diabolis - 2012-06-08 14:28

      Name and Shame!!!

      newbornr - 2012-06-08 15:05

      Westville? Although not technically in Durban?

      TravieGrif - 2012-06-09 09:20

      It's not Westville. They were tested and had a clean bill, and do no have a compass on their insignia. Be careful with the comments please

  • William - 2012-06-08 14:07

    It is HIGHLY unlikely that the coaching staff or school was unaware of this!!! Surely when you register a pupil at a school you require some sort of identification such as an ID book??? Further more the sad fact of the matter is that the children's parents (who are also at clearly at fault) where in on the scam. Really dodgy!!!

  • Nico - 2012-06-08 14:16

    Ag no people if he is still in 8grade that surely makes them under age?? Let the little ones play shame!!

  • Barry - 2012-06-08 14:38

    I coach in the UK and here you have to give the controlling body the players birth certificate with a photo signed and then a ID card is issued.

      TravieGrif - 2012-06-09 09:22

      There are supposed to be similar controls here, but apparently the birth certificates were forged. I wonder how many headmasters turned a blind eye?

  • Barry - 2012-06-08 14:49

    NOT Northwood !!

  • Barry - 2012-06-08 15:28

    William - you are right - some of the schools took immediate action - others try to sweep this under the carpet I know that some schools are very aware of the issues here but either go into denial or hope this just all fades way - especially with some Kzn schools aproaching the end of their rugby season

  • Barry - 2012-06-08 15:35

    another Barry here so there are 3 of us now - would this not be the school that shares it's name with a Prison ?

  • Grant - 2012-06-08 16:51

    I'm sure they don't start at U16 level - but are they investigating all the way down to U12/13 level?

  • cruywagen - 2012-06-09 03:57

    My husband comes from the Polekwane and he told me 12 years ago that is how school rugby works. Why is it only coming to light now. Maybe this is the standard set nationally, you know, "cant beat them, join them" mentality.

  • clive.jeepman - 2012-06-09 11:14

    I think it is Bulldust that the schools invloved have expelled these players ! This is totally abdicating their own repsonsibility to verify the ages and credentilas of the players, that they field ! In the one case the player involved was the Head Boy ... Common, you cant tell me that they did not have his correct details on record ! They probably failed him for 3 years because he was such a good player and they did not want to lose him.

  • keithronald.wildschut - 2012-06-09 14:52

    This is a national problem and will only be eradicated if schools are requested to submit birth certificates and /or id documents to verify the identity of players.In soccer id cards was a norm and in rugby must also be used.Schools that are found guilty must be severely punished.Coupled to this issue it will also be important to address the doping issue once and for all.You'll find that some boys at u'15 level is still boys just to find during the off season they develop into men.Schools must do the right thing and address this as a matter of urgency.

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