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Newlands move on the cards

2012-03-15 15:25

Cape Town -- The ball is officially rolling on a possible move from Newlands to Cape Town Stadium by Western Province rugby.

That confirmation came on Thursday at a hastily-convened media briefing at Newlands, where mayor Patricia de Lille said that the city and rugby bosses had agreed to enter “formal exploratory talks” about a potential switch of major rugby to the larger Green Point venue which hosted matches during the 2010 soccer World Cup.

The highly significant step puts to an end, at least for the time being, the sometimes fractious relationship that has existed between the city and the WPRFU, which owns Newlands.

As De Lille put it: “There have been some fights (most notably around the intended Saracens match in the Heineken Cup at Cape Town Stadium, which was eventually cancelled – Sport24) ... but we’ve agreed bygones will be bygones and we can start afresh.”

She praised the “constructive spirit” in which the WPRFU had entered the process.

A similar conciliatory tone was largely struck by Tobie Titus, president of the rugby body, who said: “This is not an event; it is a process. It is not about us, but about the community we (serve).

“It is not an overnight issue. People need to have patience and respect the process we have embarked on. It is not going to be a matter of months ... it will be years.”

One of the biggest obstacles to a possible change of venue at this stage – Cape Town Stadium has a current capacity of around 56,000 to Newlands’ 48,000 – is the need for a greatly expanded corporate suites section at the initially soccer-geared newer facility, should rugby take occupancy there.

As Theuns Roodman, chief executive of the union, put it: “We have 300 suites here (Newlands) and they are a huge money-spinner for the union.”

In reply to a query from Sport24 over whether latest developments would affect any expansion or improvement plans at Newlands, the ageing facility which has wear-and-tear and other drawbacks, Roodman said that budget allocations for “normal maintenance” would be unaltered.

“If part of our roof blew off we would obviously want to repair it.”

Titus stressed that Newlands was more likely to be subjected to maintenance, for the comfort of existing stadium patrons, than “any expansion possibilities” in the short term.

He has occasionally appeared to come across as recalcitrant before, on the issue of a possible move, but insisted at the briefing: “I never said we would never move.

“It’s not in my lap to decide whether we go or not. We must go with facts to our constituency, our 90 clubs.”

Asked what would happen if the clubs, who are sometimes considered to wield too much power in WP rugby, refused to contemplate a move, Titus said that “we will cross that bridge when we come to it”.

A number of technical teams across all parties in the negotiations will be set up, and an appeal was made for public patience and that the process be “respected”.

“They will need the space to complete their work,” De Lille said.

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Comments
  • James - 2012-03-15 15:31

    Finally. Now to get the Lions to Soweto. Better access better parking. More friendly crowds

      Jason - 2012-03-15 16:50

      You know you shoot down Leeu and probably my comment but its true. Newlands and the tradition of rugby at newlands is old and rather beautiful, it will be a sad sad day for the area and for SA rugby in general.

      seymore.butt - 2012-03-15 17:20

      @Leeu and TheJaydedKing ... it is not the four walls that make it into a culture but the people who fill those four walls makes what you call culture. if you have true spirt to support the sport and your team, does it really matter where it is played?

      Bluey - 2012-03-15 17:22

      Sorry, off on a tangent yet true

      Johan - 2012-03-15 17:29

      Leeu, en dit is presies die probleem met die wp/stormers. Hulle dink hulle het eersgeborene reg op rugby is SA. Daarom verbeel hulle hulself dat hulle beter is as al die ander spanne in SA! Net jammer die "telbord" wys dit nie en daarom loop hulle met 'n ewige haat in hulle harte rond teenoor ander spanne.

      Bluey - 2012-03-15 17:40

      4:30 tyd (time?) Raven

      Jason - 2012-03-15 17:48

      Seymour - The party actually starts outside the walls. Drinking in the local pubs, walking up with the crowds to the stadiums and then sitting in the four walls. After the game the party really gets going again outside of the walls. This can at times be a sombre event but its usually very very festive.

      Loodpil - 2012-03-15 19:55

      They should leave WP where they belong - at Newlands. If they want to move something, move the Crusaders to PE. They've got more support there than in NZ.

      Corrie - 2012-03-16 08:16

      James you show a lack of comprehension for tradition. Ellis Park, now Coca Cola Park and soon it will have a new name, has the best track record as a stadium in SA. SA won their only home World Cup here, the only world Cup of any sport in which SA compete. You expect the Lions to go to a soccer stadium associated with losses for SA and built for a sport which can not even qualify for the African Cup!!!.

      Sulaiman - 2012-03-16 11:28

      Give CT staduim for free to WPRU then we will consider it.

      Marius - 2012-03-16 14:48

      @Loodpil. You must have been smoking too much Cape Town silverleaf. More Crusaders supporters in PE than in Cape Town? At last year's Crusaders game at Newlands almost half the crowd were wearing Crusaders jerseys. At the test against NZ in PE, the bulk of supporters that I have seen wearing All Black jerseys, were all Capetonians who travelled down to PE for the test. You ask any black rugby supporter in PE who he supports and he will answer "The Springboks" without any hesitation.

  • rudilemmer - 2012-03-15 15:31

    Damn white elephants!

      Theprodigy - 2012-03-15 16:02

      Peter Mokaba Stadium in Limpopo is a white elephant, CT stadium is not, its just that old farts stuck in the past are resisting using the new stadium, its pathetic really.

      Grant - 2012-03-15 16:21

      Rugby resists the move because rugby was not consulted in the planning. If cricket was consulted in planning, maybe the damn fields would be big enough for it to be allowed! The planners for these stadiums were a bunch of idiots - plain and simple (pardon the pun)

      Jason - 2012-03-15 16:52

      Its not pathetic Prodigy, its our home of rugby. The entire culture of WP is woven into Newlands as an area and a stadium.

  • Landi Coetzee - 2012-03-15 15:36

    don't believe it...

  • Leeu - 2012-03-15 15:48

    i love my orange jews their hundred percent concentrated hahaha

      Annelise - 2012-03-15 16:21

      Jews or juice? One hellava diff!

      Leeu - 2012-03-15 16:26

      really??????

      George - 2012-03-17 13:10

      What have you been smoking , the whole tradition of South African rugby lies at Newlands. Ellis Park is a dump inside a dump, moving Ellis Park to Soweto wont matter both areas are the same anyway

  • Morne - 2012-03-15 15:48

    So now Newlands must suffer because they wasted millions on a new stadium that soccer cant fill. BLOODY AGENTS.

      Theprodigy - 2012-03-15 15:59

      No, Newlands is old & the new stadium is state of the art, has world class infrastructure including transport access, is a fantastic symbol of Cape Town etc, etc.....I can't understand why we love to cling to the past, tradition is nice, but its time to modernize a bit , yes? Besides it is there, what do you want to do, ignore it & hope it goes away?

      Morne - 2012-03-15 16:02

      It was built for soccer. They can use it. There is no reason to move.

      sean.looney - 2012-03-15 16:02

      no. newlands must suffer because there is a much better and far more accessible stadium for us to host rugby matches in. i dont understand people who are opposed to change.. if arsenal could move out of highbury then wp rugby can move out of newlands.

      Morne - 2012-03-15 16:05

      So when are they moving the Lions to Soweto and the Sharks to Moses Mabida?

      Jason - 2012-03-15 16:06

      Morne to be honest Newlands does not stand up to international standards for disaster management in the event of mass exits etc. The new stadium does. I understand WPRU as far as loss of income goes, as they OWN Newlands, but the new disaster management bill means they would need to do major structural changes to the existing ground. Also Cape Town Stadium has state of the art medical facilities. As a true WP supporter it will be a sad day when we say goodbye to Newlands, but we must embrace our new modern state of the art facility!

      Morne - 2012-03-15 16:12

      Jason, all of that is true and it makes sense, but it is still just plain and simple a way for them to force the new stadium onto WPRU. Where do the CPT soccer unions play their games? Surely there are a lot more soccer being played in SA than rugby. If we look at disaster management at SA venues they should honostly look at the serious problem areas like certain soccer stadiums first.

      Tinus - 2012-03-15 16:16

      if you haven't been to Newlands at least a couple of times, like the old faithful, you'll never understand. Yes the stadium has its drawbacks, I hate the seats under the roof in the grand stand where you can't see the ball if its kicked. But there is something truly magical about the place, a character and vibe you can't express in words. Something you don't experience with 90 000 fans for an Springbok-All Black game, U2, or Chiefs-Pirates game at Soccercity. It would be a very sad day when WP leave, unfortunately it is probably inevitable.

      sean.looney - 2012-03-15 16:22

      @laaite - i have been to newlands stadium more times than i can remember. its just not cut out as an international stadium any longer... if there was room for it to be expanded and significantly upgraded then i wouldn't stand in the way. the truth is it has become an old shell of its former glory and anybody denying that is only doing so because of the memories they hold, not the logic and benefits behind the move.

      Deon - 2012-03-15 16:23

      They won't move unless they get a very good deal. Currently it does not make sense to move. At the new stadium less income from suites and the rent won't be cheap. The only solution could be a big increase in ticket prices that won't be welcomed either.

      Jason - 2012-03-15 16:33

      Morne Newlands hosts its fair share of soccer matches to.

      Jason - 2012-03-15 16:53

      Agreed Morne. They built the stadium for Soccer, and now we must all move. Why cant local soccer grow up and take it as their stadium?

      Nigel - 2012-03-15 17:04

      @ morne, you need to catch up with the times, many stadiums are multi purpose, like the MCG (Melborne Cricket Ground in SYdney) is used for soccer, cricket, rugby league & rugby union...@ Larysa you think all rugby stadiums are small & cosy...MCG = 100 000, Stadium Australia = 83000, Coke park Ireland = 82000, Twickenham England = 82000, Stad de France = 81000, Mellinium stadium Scotland 75000 etc.

      Johan - 2012-03-15 17:35

      They can sell Newlands for millions, as it is prime land, and use the money to buy proper players!

      Andrew - 2012-03-15 17:35

      Reason no 1 & 2 for moving to CT Stadium...1. Try get a drink at half time at Newlands!! 2. Try go for a pee at half time at Newlands and not miss the first 10 minutes of the second half. Newlands will always have a special place in my memories and heart as I've been a regular for 40years but the time has come....

      Sulaiman - 2012-03-16 11:37

      @ Johan CT Staduim can be demolished to because they are also on prime land and get millions for it. building

  • Adrian - 2012-03-15 15:54

    Newlands is an old stadium which is not safe to be used by international standards. Simply put it is a death trap, a tragedy waiting to happen.

      Kobus - 2012-03-15 17:03

      Adrian Jy moet maar jonk wees Knaap. Sover my kennis strek is dit net die Hoofpaviljoen wat oud is. Die empire state gebou staan al jare. Breek die Amerikaners dit af? Hoekom breek julle Tafelberg ook nie af nie. Dan is daar meer plek vir die plakkers

      Adrian - 2012-03-15 17:25

      There is merit in saying Newlands is a landmark steeped in history, but we must be realistic. The entire World is progressing when it comes to stadium design and management, fortunately because of the World Cup in 2010 we were ahead of the global curve, we need to embrace this change and what good it could have for South Africa and specifically Cape Town. For instance, the Saracens game.

  • Michael - 2012-03-15 15:55

    dont see how anyone can say that this move will be for the greater good of WP rugby, hell just look at tomorrow not only is there the super rugby game at newlands( go stormers), but also a soccer match at the green point stadium, what will happen if this move happens are they going to share it between both soccer and rugby, and what happens when both want to play on the same day. and there is noway you can build the same game day spirit at green point. all you people that dont get it, go to newsland on a game dayeven if the game is at 7pm people are there before 12 camping and braaiing

      Jaco - 2012-03-15 16:08

      Newsland Michael? Sounds like a magical place where Riaan Cruywagen will be president. Lol

      vdwjasper - 2012-03-15 16:11

      Don't be dumb Jaco. Riaan is white.

      Byron - 2012-03-15 16:21

      Newlands is a crap stadium.... dont be blinded by the side that u support and think leaving Newlands is like leaving the Stormers....1stly-braaing? dude where? the fields.... hamiltons is right there...u know that little event called 10`s! very successful and way more people will be able to braai outside the stadium like ABSA stad....Town is very trendy and has way more clubs, pubs whateva u want... The train service goes right into town which can be used if u from the southern suburbs and if u from the northern well u used to drivin anyway..... The Cape Town stadium was built by South Africans in this era!! haha century!! Myself included blood sweat and tears ...The stadium is better in every aspect except for fact that theres no boxes.. which only benefit like 5% of the people that actually go... but I do agree put boxes in the stadium and lets get on with it!! GO STORMERS!!

      Annelise - 2012-03-15 16:28

      Yes Michael. And who will pay for damages by the soccer fans? Remember when they went crazy at Newlands a couple of years ago and the rugby union had to foot the bill?

      Jack - 2012-03-15 22:19

      I'd be all for the move if Mayor Patricia can personally guarantee the safety of the trains as well as the fanwalk. The schools around Newlands will go ape over this - they'll have to double their school fees and let a few governing body teachers go to make up for the loss in revenue from overpriced parking...

  • Theprodigy - 2012-03-15 15:55

    About Friggin time.....the sooner the better, I will support the new stadium 100%, Newlands is good for a housing development.

  • steyts - 2012-03-15 15:55

    It will be a truly sad day in the history of SA rugby if WP moves away from Newlands!!!

      Danny - 2012-03-15 16:05

      Come on herman, they can take the historey with them.

      Tinus - 2012-03-15 16:18

      ja herman hulle verstaan nie - dit gaan nie net oor die size en slick design nie...

  • vdwjasper - 2012-03-15 15:57

    Province has been through much - and always at the heart of it was Newlands. Rather amalgamate Helenic and Ajax - maybe then they can keep the new stadium full.

      vdwjasper - 2012-03-15 16:03

      Just wondering - if a the stadium in Cape Town is struggling so badly, how do the ones in Nelspruit, PE, etc. survive?

      Marius - 2012-03-16 15:11

      @Jaz.The PE stadium was the only stadium that was actually needed to be built, as the old Boet Erasmus stadium was basically falling apart. They got rugby involved during the construction phase and all building was stopped for a few weeks when it was discovered that in the original design the length of the playing field would have been 1 metre too short to ever host international rugby tests. They then demolished the bottom row at both ends of the field, before carrying on with construction, to be able to accommodate rugby too. Incidently, the PE stadium is also the only new stadium that was built, that actually made a slight profit last year after covering all maintenance costs.

  • Ben - 2012-03-15 15:57

    Why would they move if they own Newlands stadium and now have to pay to use Cape Town stadium? Doesn't make financial sense.

      sean.looney - 2012-03-15 16:05

      because newlands is sitting on a prime piece of real estate that would probably fetch WPRU a large chunk of money if they did decide to move on. i'm sure, in the process of discussions, that it will be discussed what kind of ownership structure cape town stadium will have.

      Tinus - 2012-03-15 16:30

      If CT stadium houses multiple events - soccer, concerts and rugby, the total generated income could be greater than that which Newlands generates, meaning the margins could be lower, meaning that WP could rent the stadium at a price lower than the cost of maintaining Newlands. It's like owning your own batchelors flat for R4000 bond repayments/month from where you trade shares online vs renting a big house with a couple of mates for R2000 each/month from where you trade shares online... You could even now rent your flat out at R2000/month and spend the R2000/month that you save from renting a room in the big house in order to cover your bond repayment and therefore keep your asset. or you could sell the asset and spend the income on not losing the likes of JJ and Johan...

  • paul.ramncwana - 2012-03-15 15:57

    I can't see myself watching STORMERS & WP at Cpt Stadium. I have too many good memories at Newlands. Catching a train with my padkos wearing my blue & white hoops. Singing at the bar for my beloved PROVINCE. I say hell no we won't go!!! Newlands Faithful

      Michael - 2012-03-15 16:21

      Then stay at home Paul ........ and don't watch on TV. I rather believe its about the game and the players!!

      paul.ramncwana - 2012-03-15 16:56

      Michael I will watch STORMERS anywhere but I would love if we stay in Newlands. I would if u can drink on the BRT?

      Johan - 2012-03-15 17:39

      And what about the bad memories?

  • Boere - 2012-03-15 16:03

    Flatten the stadiums that can't pay for themselves and build office blocks or housing estates. Save money.

  • Danny - 2012-03-15 16:03

    I love going to Mr Price Kings park, but maybe it's time for Brian van Zyl and his cronies to put their pride in their pockets and enginner a good enough offer from the Ethekwini Municipality and move the "Big Mo", and let them covert Kings Park into an indoor sports arena. Big PLUS for holding the Olympics in Durban one day. Anyway, Big Mo is costing the tax payer a fortune, because it is not being used. Even big shows won't go there - it's too expensive. If there is an anchor tennant like the Sharks, it will make it more worthwhile for Amazulu and Golden Arrows to play more football there too. Come on guys, wake and smell the roses.

      Jeffrey - 2012-03-15 16:12

      They gonna have to improve the drainage at Moses Mabhida stadium if they want to hold rugby games there, it turned into a swimming pool the other day at a soccer match.

  • Richard - 2012-03-15 16:10

    I heard pigs can fly, but don't really believe they can. When I see that happen, will check back on this topic.....

  • Pieter - 2012-03-15 16:12

    WP is in anyway not the WP of old. I miss the days when WP was SA's version of the Crusaders. Nowadays we are just an extension of the Bulls. Or wait, no, can't be, the Bulls is actually playing a running style of rugby.

  • clivecorbz - 2012-03-15 16:15

    There was a time when people complained that the Banana Boys were getting renamed to the Sharks... Give it a little while and people will love their new stadium, when they realise that the building had very little to do with how much they enjoyed the game! Besides, having a stadium in a residential area causes serious parking issues like you can't believe.

  • Larysa - 2012-03-15 16:16

    Very sad day when this happens !!! Newlands has always been the Home of Rugby - why mess with something that ain't broke ??? CT Stadium should never have been built - what was wrong with upgrading any of the other soccer stadia around the city for the World Cup ? The atmosphere in CT Stadium does not work for rugby - the fans need to be close to the players - like at Newlands - not 70 meters away from the try lines sitting in an open bowl environment. I say NO to CT Stadium for rugby. The Municipality built it - now they have to deal with the expenses - do not make us rugby fans pay for this white elephant !!!!

      sean.looney - 2012-03-15 16:23

      you know this how? you ever been to a game at the cake tin? stade france? millenium stadium? those stadiums are hardly what i'd call "close to the action" but are revered for their atmosphere.

  • ebberabie - 2012-03-15 16:22

    I say, "Let the games begin".

  • ebberabie - 2012-03-15 16:23

    Let the games begin

      Christo - 2012-03-15 17:26

      Your comment just made my day. That was brilliant.

  • Rudi - 2012-03-15 16:24

    Another problem with the move to Cape Town Stadium is that one is not allowed to braai anywhere at the parking spots around the CPT stadium. No more catching a "gees" before a game with a lekker chop and boerewors.

      lydonmcg - 2012-03-15 16:38

      Yeah, heaven forbid we have an entire fan walk to celebrate on instead, multiple modes of transport to and from the stadium, can fit a couple thousand more supporters into the stadium and do so far more safely with a backdrop to match that of Newlands.

      Nigel - 2012-03-15 16:44

      catch the gees at the game, thats what its there for.

      Michael - 2012-03-15 16:59

      Catch the Gees at the Game Nigel, sorry but the games is only 80mins long, the gees for the games is built up over the day not just in that 80mins.

  • Pieter Janse van Rensburg - 2012-03-15 16:24

    Newlands is the 3rd oldest sportstadium in the world. I recon the maintenance is very high. It will be a sad sad day but not everything can last forever. I'll miss my stadium!!!

  • Shaun - 2012-03-15 16:29

    Newlands is vrot. The parking and traffic situation sux, the seats are old and uncomfortable, its a safety hazard and I think a change of scenery will do the boys well. Don't get me wrong, I think the area Newlands is beautiful, its just that the stadium sux and them playing in the world class CT stadium will lift their spirits.

      Nigel - 2012-03-15 16:43

      exactly, I'm not even sure that it complies with basic municipal rules, try getting a guest house approved, you have to have like 20 parking bays for each guest, where is Newlands parking facility, there is not one bay. Its ridiculous to even argue for it.

      Richard - 2012-03-15 17:17

      Agree, it is the truth. My backside still hurts from my last seat on the railway stand. Concession sales lone make up for a lot of revenue. Newlands you can get a coke a donut that is about all. Not sure about the braaing beforehand, potentially green point park but not sure, that is a point.

  • glennmozambique - 2012-03-15 16:37

    Just to remind you all the real home of Rugby tests is St Georges park cricket ground in Port Elizabeth where the 1st Test was played

  • johanspokie.rossouw - 2012-03-15 16:44

    if they can switch stadiums then sure! otherwise no! why do you want to spent money on something you already have.

  • Sedick - 2012-03-15 16:52

    Its going to be sad saying good buy to Newlands Rugby Stadium,but you know what they say;CHANGES IS GOOD.

  • Bill - 2012-03-15 16:56

    Provincialism aside, Newlands has a special atmosphere not found at too many other rugby grounds. The old Ellis Park had it, but the "new" one lacks something. Cardiff Arms was special, the Millennium Stadium is not as good. The real point is that the smaller stadiums have a sense of intimacy and closeness to the game that the soulless monster stadiums just do not have. Greenpoint is also far removed from the traditional support bases of the schools and university near Newlands. Ek weet nie. Seems rugby must pay for the overkill of the Soccer World Cup?

      Richard - 2012-03-15 17:19

      Not sure you right about ellis park, during a boks game (especially 1995 and recently) Ellis park has become the boks fortress. Even though many fans get shot at, robbed getting into and out of the stadium, once they in the atrmosphere is aweomsesome when full. Ask the Sharks during CC final. Well point is, new stadiums can work and not necessary to always hang onto old stadiums.

      Marius - 2012-03-16 15:32

      @Bill I have watched tests at Newlands(4), Loftus, Ellis Park(2), Kings Park, Free State stadium and last year the test in PE and have to say that the best atmosphere that I have experienced at all of them was the one in PE last year. The design of the stadium makes easy access to all the facilities like pubs and toilets from your seat an absolute pleasure and the accoustics in the stadium almost gives you the feeling that you are in an indoor stadium. I have have spoken to a number of guys from Cape Town and Durban who also attended that game and they all agreed with me that it was the best atmosphere they have ever experienced at a test.

  • christopher.cundell - 2012-03-15 16:56

    Ag nee asseblief! Wat van Nuweland en al die tradisies daar! Nou gaan ons span by Cape Town Stadium speel? Wat gaan word van Nuweland- 'n Stadion wat huideglik besit word deur WPRU. Mens kan net dink hoe duur kaartjies dan gaan word want WP gaan moet huur betaal.

  • Kobus - 2012-03-15 16:57

    Ek sal so n stap net ondersteun as die WPRU die nuwe Stadion koop en die stadion herdoop na Nuweland.Nuweland is volksbesit. Dis vandat die geldgatte ingekom het en hulself wil verryk.Wat gebeur as n nuwe party die Wes-Kaap oorneem en belaglike hoe huurgeld vra. Ons weet mos hoe gulsig hulle is.Julle donner in elke geval alles op. Maak en breek soos julle wil. Sal graag wil weet wie van die publiek gaan insit. Seker een of ander opgesitte pop met n handdruk onderdeur die tafel

  • David - 2012-03-15 17:09

    I for one can't wait for the move, Cape Town stadium is a far superior modern stadium with easy access and potential for a lot more fun after the game as well, so its time for the move.

  • Richard - 2012-03-15 17:13

    Clearly a few comments are by people who have not been to either stadium recently. Newlands is traditional, and lovely. But it is very uncomfortable, especially when full, and damn near impossible to get a beer in. Also traffic around newlands jams up the entire city at game time, nightmare. Cape Town stadium is light years ahead, AWESOME comfrat, viewing, expereince. It is a no brainer in my view. Move now if you can.

      Rohann Olivier - 2012-03-15 19:24

      Traffic at Cape Town Stadium is worse. Went to the Bafana VS USA game last year.Took an hour and 15min for our car to move and 2 hours to get to the N1. Beer was about the same as in Newlands, maybe bit quicker.

  • brand0nbradley - 2012-03-15 17:15

    Question - does Western Province owe rent / bond for Newlands and will they be paying rent / bond for Greenpoint? How far away is the action away from the fans on the sideline? These are just some of the hurdles why the Natal Rugby Union are not moving to Moses Mabida. They owe nothing for the Shark Tank and, if you are in the good seats, you get to taste the blood and sweat of the players. Never been to Newlands before but from the TV Coverage it looks damn fine. Why move?

  • Michael - 2012-03-15 17:22

    don't fool your self in thinking bigger is better. a full newlands of 48, 00 people can and will sound a lot greater then cape town staduim, and this has been proven by other sports around the world

      Nigel - 2012-03-15 17:41

      promote the game & fill the stadium, I don't like Newlands park & walk 3 miles, then there is getting out of there when the games over, impossible

      Nigel - 2012-03-15 17:47

      Do what the Aussies do, close off the top 3rd of the stadium, not rocket science really, but no, we just let everybody get a seat anywhere in the larger stadiums so you have the crowed spread out all over the place like at Loftus & others, if approached correctly the CT stadium can be a huge success, just need to get past the stubborn mindsets that seem to cling to the past. I will attend 3 times the games that I attend at Newlands if it was moved to CT stadium.

  • Johan - 2012-03-15 17:25

    About time - maybe it will help the stormers if they start with a clean slate?

  • Raymond - 2012-03-15 17:32

    I smell a fishy one here! Adamant that they will stay at Newlands for ever and then a sudden change of heart. Could there be "backhanders" involved or is this a political enhancement for the ruling DA in Western Cape? What political carrot (or fish) has been dangled - the plot thickens, maybe Malema has been contracted to supply extra seating (being a carpenter) at Cape Town stadium. Maybe a new member now of the DAYL perhaps?

  • Saffa - 2012-03-15 18:03

    Well I guess after 11 years of failing to win any silverware in 3 different competitions per year it is time to close office. Good night Stormers/WP

  • hugo.naude - 2012-03-15 18:05

    ... Stormers ... Province fans ... it is NOT the stadium's fault ... but I guess when your trophy cabinet has been a white elephant for 11 yrs desperation will set in ... anything for a win??

      PietSnot - 2012-03-15 18:48

      Erens moes jou voorvaders uit 'n klip ontstaan het, want jou herhalende opmerkings toon aan dat jy so dom soos 'n klip is

      Saffa - 2012-03-15 19:06

      @Pietsnot Verduidelik gou vir ons wat nie waar is van Hugo se stelling nie? Is dit nie so dat WP/Stormers 11 jaar sonder 'n koppie is nie?

      hugo.naude - 2012-03-15 22:46

      @Pietsnot ... met so n naam praat jy van dom?? Of is dit wat hulle "slim" kinners noem in Stormer land? Snotneus ... minder jou sokkies rook - sal die snot probleem oplos.

  • Marius - 2012-03-15 19:22

    I read a lot of comments, some of which has actually got nothing to do with the issue. Personally.I would like to know how many of the pro movers ever attends a game at Newlands. I for one has had a season ticket for more years than I can remember, and prefer to watch my rugby at Newlands. End of discussion.

      Saffa - 2012-03-15 19:28

      'n Zim dollar is nou meer gesog as daai seisoenkaartjie

      Marius - 2012-03-15 19:31

      My friend as I have stated you are entitled to your opinion, but it is abundantly clear that you are not from Cape Town and not a WP supporter so your opinion is not exactly relevant.

      Saffa - 2012-03-15 20:24

      That's correct Marius, I cannnot support a team who can't win a single cup in 11 years and 33 tournaments. Why are they still allowed in tournaments?

      PietSnot - 2012-03-15 21:32

      Marius Ouens soos jy het die WP ondersteun toe hulle die Curriebeker 5x in 'n ry gewen het en steeds die WP ondersteun al is dit al 11 jaar sedert die laaste Curriebeker. Ouens soos jy is die ruggraat van enige rugbyunie se ondersteuners. Dan kry jy die ruggraatlose ondersteuners (goeie voorbeeld is Fake Saffa wat sommer sal dros as ondersteuner sodra hul span begin swaar trek. Van Fake Saffa gepraat, in die afgelope 5 jaar het die Blou Bulle die Curriebeker slegs eenmaal gewen en hul 2012-verwagtings is maar bra troosteloos. Dus moenie verbaas wees as Fake Saffa binne die volgende jaar of twee 'n Shark ondersteuner word nie!

      Saffa - 2012-03-15 21:35

      @Pietsnot Hoeveel keer het WP hom gewen in die laaste 5 jaar? En die laaste 11 jaar?

      PietSnot - 2012-03-15 21:47

      @Fake Saffa Ek haal aan: "...toe hulle die Curriebeker 5x in 'n ry gewen het en steeds die WP ondersteun al is dit al 11 jaar sedert die laaste Curriebeker" Teenvraag: Hoeveel keer in 'n ry mag die Blou Bulle verloor voordat jy jou ondersteuning na 'n ander span toe skuif?

      hugo.naude - 2012-03-15 22:51

      Ai ou Snotkop (duidelik snot vir brains) ... die BULLS het miskien nie die CC meer as een maal die afgelope 5 jaar gewen nie ... maar om op te maak daarvoor wen ons toe sommer 3 Super Rugby Bekers ... want ons kan!! How do u like dem apples??

  • frank.roux2 - 2012-03-15 22:47

    for everyone thats crying to keep WP at Newlands, when last have you sat high up on the railway stand (you battle to see the other side of the pitch, cant see the screen) there is piles of pigeon crap everywhere, the concrete is cracking on the walls. If we are honest, the atmosphere is not that fantastic that it cant\wont be replicated or even improved at Cape Town Stadium. Time to move Im afraid ...

      vdwjasper - 2012-03-16 09:11

      Apologies my friend, but not even on the web do we mingle with the people of the railway stand.

  • Reginald - 2012-03-16 05:39

    Dis duidelik dat die nuwe stadion n wit olifant is wat ondeurdag opgerig is en nou n finansiele las vir iemand is en die enigste manier om dit reg te stel is om druk op rugby te sit om die las oor te neem.

  • Zion - 2012-03-16 08:55

    It is not clear as to who will be paying for the running maintenance at the Cape Town Stadium. and so too for the Newlands stadium, that is, if it is not demolished.

  • Jody - 2012-03-16 09:28

    Why do we need to bail out Govt problems. Let govt and soccer get their house in order, then they will easily get CT stadium to cover its cost......instead of tax payers. Why should WPRU rent a stadium when they own their own. Anybody that disagrees with this is a moron. FINISH AND KLAAR.We have become a nation of , if you cannot beat them...... .... join them.NEVER.

      Sulaiman - 2012-03-16 11:34

      True words why must you go rent a car when you own one. Same applies. and why could they not CT staduim like the old greenpoint staduim into a multipurpose staduim.

  • Michael - 2012-03-16 12:49

    hooray!! for Cape Town Stadium, stop clinging on the past, its the dawn of a new era and an excellent symbol of where we are going in this country! thanks newlands it was great but you have past your sell by date!

  • euchar.abrahams - 2012-03-16 13:45

    Whatever

  • Vic - 2012-03-16 14:55

    I really find this continual crap repeated over & over & over again, by SO many idiots that write here, about the Stormers & WP not having won any trophies etc for X No. of years. It is just SO tiring/tiresome. If you have NOTHING interesting, positive or good to say, just shut the f..#k up.!!! Didn't your parents tell you that when you were growing up.....of course it seems as if many of you still haven't grown up.!! All that damn nonsense/rubbish has got ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the issue at hand here, of a possible move from Newlands Rugby Stadium to Cape Town Stadium. Just get that into your VERY THICK SKULLS.!!!! By the way someone mentioned that Newlands rugby stadium is "owed" by CT City Council----well perhaps they are owed rates & taxes, but that's about it.! It is OWNED by WP Rugby.....finish & klaar.!! PLEASE don't talk the biggest lot of s##t, if you were actually trying to say the Council owns it.....you complete MORON.!!

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