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'Luke deserves Bok jersey'

2009-05-18 06:44

Hendrik Cronje

Bloemfontein - Heinrich Brüssow deserves to wear the Springboks’ No 6 jersey against the British and Irish Lions if one considers his consistency this year.

And Luke Watson deserves at least a place in the Springbok squad.

That is the view of former Cheetahs coach Peet Kleynhans. Both loose forwards impressed Kleynhans in Saturday’s Super 14 clash at Vodacom Park in Bloemfontein. The Stormers won 28-22.

The match did not produce fireworks, but the battle of the loose forwards was red-hot. It’s difficult to say who won the battle between Brüssow, Juan Smith and Hendro Scholtz of the Cheetahs, and Watson, Pieter Louw and Duane Vermeulen of the Stormers.

The controversial Watson was jeered when he ran on the field and he was clearly also targeted by the Cheetahs player.

“I think Luke played well. He has played better rugby this year than last,” said Kleynhans.

While the Stormers are successfully using Watson as a No 8, Kleynhans believes he should be considered as a No 6 flank by the Springboks.

Kleynhans added that Brüssow had been magnificent. “His strength is his consistency. He performs very well in every game. Even if Schalk Burger is available, Heinrich should be in the starting line-up.

“He played well again on Saturday and did his bit. You know every week what he will offer the side. He is a quality player.”

The Cheetahs are also using Brüssow to pack down at No 8 in the scrums, which shows his utility value.

Kleynhans believes Vermeulen will represent South Africa in future. “He is a strong contender, but his play was not as noticeable as last year. But big things lie ahead,” said Kleynhans.

Vermeulen had a quiet outing on Saturday by his high standards. Kleynhans believes Smith is still the best in his position in South Africa.

“He had a serious injury. He will continue to play good rugby as his confidence returns. He will be excellent behind a strong tight five,” he said.

Scholtz was used mainly as a ball-carrier, while Louw impressed with his lineout play and at the breakdowns.

Sport24

Comments
  • Warren - 2009-05-18 07:31

    Luke has always been a good individual player, but how is he going to fit into a "Bok team who may be offended by him. How can Luke explain his comments to all those other players who have waited their whole lives to be awarded a "Bok jersey.

  • Sharkie43 - 2009-05-18 07:31

    If Luke Watson plays for the Boks, I will support the opposing teams. He is a joke and a disgrace. He should not be allowed to play for any rugby team, period !

  • WTF - 2009-05-18 07:32

    WTH. LUKE DOES NOT DESREVE THE JERSEY. TO PUKE ON?BY THE WAY, WHO DO YOU LET OUT? SPIES/KANKO? NOT A CHANCE. LUKE IS NOT A TRANSFORMATION PLAYER SO BAD LUCK TO YOU SON. WE KNOW THAT YOU DONT WANT TO BE WHITE SON, STAY WITH WP CAUSE THATS WHERE YOU BELONG. YOU DONT MEASURE UP TO THE BIG BOYS, TOUGH LUCK, I WANT A PORSCHE AND DONT HAVE ONE. LUKE WILL NEVER BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR THAT JERSEY!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous User - 2009-05-18 07:36

    Luke has by far the best hand eye co-ordination out of all the loosies.He may be slightly behind Brussow, but more than makes up for it with his ability to put OTHERS away. GO LUKE!!!.

  • Hannetjie - 2009-05-18 07:37

    I agree that Luke Watson is currently playing good rugby, but his 'loyalty' to the Springbok jersey remains questionable. There are a number og equally good and deserving AND loyal loose forwards who can be included in the Springbok squad.

  • Charlie Brittz - 2009-05-18 07:47

    As long as he gets a barf bag with it.

  • trevor - 2009-05-18 07:51

    luke should play rugby in japan

  • kobus - 2009-05-18 07:57

    Better give him a washing machine with a bok jersey as he is bound to be puking on it.

  • Badbones - 2009-05-18 08:52

    NO WAY, remember, SA Rugby is full of "Dumn Dutchmen" .......I agree with Trevor, Japan should be a good place for Luke Watson to move to, he can puke on the people there. I liked what the Cheethas did to him this weekend, with comments like that it should happen more offten ...... But I am sure Daddy has the last say, so we can't stop it as long as Daddy is involved in rugby ........ AAAAAARRRGGGHHHHHHHHUUUUUU

  • ShanMoff - 2009-05-18 08:52

    THis is a team sport, and making the team is not based only on individual performances. While he might add value to the team in terms of player ability - he will completely disrupt the team spirit. How can you expect a springbok player to stand with his heart on his chest singing the anthem, with Luke next to you, after his comments. You earn a spot in the team based on skill, and loyalty, and ability to play with your team. His comments have effectively excluded him from ever playing springboks again due to his lack of loyalty. It will be a disgrace to the team as a whole, and particulary individual players of colour (who are there on merit), if he makes it!!!!

  • Dean - 2009-05-18 08:56

    Luke's played great rugby this season! He's good enough to be regarded as one of the top 30 players in the country! It takes more than just being a good rugby player to play in that jersey! He doesn't deserve it! He made his feelings quite clear and I don't care if he gets IRB player of the yr! He doesn't deserve that jersey!

  • piet - 2009-05-18 08:57

    Luke unfortunatually is playing good rugby. But I dont think he should be a springbok because he will destabelize the team and will focus even more politics on the sport. Like many politicians before him he should withdraw from the race. Sorry LUKE but everyone has got to pay for there mistakes. OK exccept JZ, he and OJ (well if i were jz i would be worried look what happend to OJ)

  • Nag ou Grote - 2009-05-18 08:58

    I agree with Warren..that whilst Luke is impressive at present like the run he had a few years ago leading Western Province..what we cannot do is include a player that is divisive and outspoken as this may prove to be a liability in the team morale....so he may well have shot himslef in the foot I'm afraid.....

  • Jannas - 2009-05-18 08:58

    Puke Watson only deserves the scorn he is getting for his remarks. He should be banished from wearing the Bok jersey as a player or supporter. This has nothing to do with his ability to play rugby. The Super 14 has shown enough promising players, we don't have to lick the boots of disloyal players. Has anyone checked if Peet received some 'gifts' lately?

  • Dipsy - 2009-05-18 08:58

    Peet..its like telling my corporate boss everytime I wear my corporate tie it makes me want to puke...Do you honestly believe I will have a career??? I firmly believe Luke's career is over. He has refused to apologise to the South African rugby fraternity for his comment and he seems to think he offended no-one.

  • Juan - 2009-05-18 08:59

    All you Luke Watson naysayers... GET OVER IT ALREADY!!!! Have you got nothing else to worry about? It's history, move on now.... You must have such small little brains to hold a grudge against him... Is that all you got... Luke rhymes with Puke and Watson rhymes with Twatson (Geez I'm so clever and original). If any of you who call yourself Christians, I would be ashamed of myself.... Ever heard of slander???

  • neil anderson - 2009-05-18 08:59

    if the dude is prepared to say sorry for his stupid comments then he can play in that team, if not he must go be a linesman for the spears, finished and klaar!

  • David. - 2009-05-18 08:59

    If he is good enough and can prove it which he is. Why not let him play, remember the media also over does it when any celebrity makes a comment.

  • Montague - 2009-05-18 09:00

    Lets be honest - Watson is only a shadow of the other contenders he is up against. The fact that his dad was so demeaning towards The National Coach, who abuses uses his influence to get the media to elevated his son – The pathetic attempts to elevate Luke still ring in my mind.. have you ever heard of a rugby players ability being determined by what he can bench presses? Watson and his dad seem to think so....this says it all! Is he a weight lifter? When selecting a Springbok, pride and loyalty should not be questioned...to want to puke on it..Fails this test dismally...as a ruby player, Jake White is right. Watson is an overrated light weight average player.

  • scud - 2009-05-18 09:00

    the problem is not Luke's rugby its his mouth..

  • Lester - 2009-05-18 09:00

    I don’t know what all the fuss is about. Luke has said he won’t play until the springbok is gone. Anyway he is a good player but Spies and Kanko are better. He is also not a team man. He probably makes a good captain but struggles to fit in with everyone else when he is not the big star.

  • fairplay - 2009-05-18 09:02

    A few things: this "disruptive" charge is clearly nonsense based on the way his players have responded to his captaincy, and secondly; stats don't lie, as Jake used to say when it suited him. Luke is the finest loosie in the world. (see ruggastats.co.za). All this playground ganging up on the guy is like what I saw on Saturday from Smith and Scholtz. Very brave...

  • Anonymous User - 2009-05-18 09:04

    Puke should play rugby in Iceland, preferably in a blizzard

  • Mike - 2009-05-18 09:04

    I have to agree with most of the comments so far. I have seen Luke play beach touch rugby, and I was very impressed with his skills as a player - he made some other very respectable rugby players look mediocre. But that's on the beach, and I don't think he is going to fit into the Bok team - just too much baggage. We have more than enough quality loosies, anyway, it looks like Luke may be the first documented case of reverse evolution - he's regressing I tell you!

  • Anonymous User - 2009-05-18 09:04

    what a pot of K@@! if he ever gets a bok jersey it will be a miracle if he can keep it for more than a game...

  • Anonymous User - 2009-05-18 09:08

    Maybe he must play without the jersey. At least he can puke on himself. I will not be proud to be springbok if Luke is included in the squad. What a hopeless loser!

  • colin - 2009-05-18 09:10

    Judge Luke only on his rugby ability – any person who rates Luke as an average player is not objective or do not have a clue about rugby. The article also should have mentioned that as a captain Luke is a great asset and the past 2 games his leadership abilities have come shining through and it was quit impressive – my view is that Luke outplayed both Brussouw and Smith on the weekend and he should be given credit for that.

  • Anonymous User - 2009-05-18 09:11

    Everybody goes on about what Luke Watson said. Brian Mujati's father drove white farmers off their farms in Zimbabwe, and no word is said about him!!! I don't like Luke Watson, but at this stage stats shows that he is better than Pierre Spies. In-Form players must be picked for Boks!!

  • SPRINGBOK FAN - 2009-05-18 09:11

    NO WAY!!! There are FAR more better players than this whatsename Luke- Please do not disgrace the Springbok Jeursey with Luke IN it!! THIS TIME THE SPRINGBOK WILL KOTS!!

  • Siphiwo - 2009-05-18 09:12

    Tim Cohen wrote in response to the insults hurled at Helen Zille that South Afirca is not ready for the truth. I am a Black South African who supports the national rugby team, the Springboks. Unlike some people on this site, I read Luke Watson's comments which are available somewhere on this site, and I never found the word "Dutchmen" anywhere on it. The truth, however unpalatable, is that to many South Africans like me, the Springbok will always be a symbol of White supremacist ideology which humiliated millions of people, brutalised them and relegated them to a non-people. To deny this is to delude yourself. That we have chosen to accept the reality of that past and move on does not mean the truth shall not be told in future. Yes, like Luke Watson, I have been deeply offended by the fact that this symbol of White supremacy somehow has to occupy a special status while all our national teams use the King Protea. I am therefore happy that the springbok has been moved to the right side of the jersey. This reconciliation project that some of the hypocrites who post vile responses on this website pay lip service to, requires real acceptance of the reality of our past and the pain it caused and move on from there. I only support the Springboks because the boys in green are young and did not cause my suffering and that of my elders. Like all of us, despite some of them continuing to enjoy sporting privileges that millions of Black kids will never even dream of, they deserve a chance to show their patriotism through sport. Luke Watson deserves no less, because he did what our constitution allows us to do, to speak your mind and to have your ideas challenged in open debate, not booed by mentally challenged hooligans who also happen to assault Black people in alcohol-fuelled racist attacks at rugby stadia.

  • Hansie - 2009-05-18 09:13

    Let's give Luke Watson a test. Will he accept the Curry Cup if WP wins it this year and he's the captain? The Springbok is a "symbol of apartheid" according to him. The Curry Cup and the Springbok are like twins. Just a thought!!!!!

  • WP Boys - 2009-05-18 09:14

    I guess Everyone is entitled to there opinion,nevermind how myopic it is. At the end of the day Luke is a damn good player,and that is all that counts. I personally want a man to run out on the field,that I know will be able to handle his own. That man is Luke.

  • Tim - 2009-05-18 09:19

    GET OVER YOURSELVES

  • Anonymous User - 2009-05-18 09:25

    Between Helium and the politics in our sport, Puke will probably be selected.

  • Honest - 2009-05-18 09:26

    One question.How long should the ANC blame apartheid? How long should "some" whites crucify Luke Watson? He is by far one of the most exiting rugby players currently....Leave the man alone....By the way where is Joost? Making movies?

  • VLS - 2009-05-18 09:26

    Oh please! Watson deserves his place in the team on form alone. The argument that he is a divisve influence is nonsense. The Stormers have been rubbish this year but have won two games on the trot as soon as he was givne the captaincy, FACT. His comments about the jersey have been taken completely out of context. He said he felt like vomiting on the jersey after the treatment he received when in camp with the team when he was selected as the 46th player (some of the players went out of their way to make the experience as uncomfortable as possible for him and even refused to award him a team blazer and the initiation rites - notwithstanding th fact that he didn't pick himself). Any person would be disgusted by such a situation but that does not mean that he doesn't want to represent his country. The only divisive element is in fact supporters with massive chips on their shoulders who refuse to acknowledge a player's well earned right to represent his country because of their personal feelings.

  • Anonymous User - 2009-05-18 09:28

    Although luke had a superb season and played some phenomenal rugga he has never publically apologised for what he said. I agree that he should go play in Japan or some place far away and doesn’t deserve that jersey we’ all love, respect and dreamed about…. And one has to wonder about Juan and Scoltz who dont take on the puke’ing Zulu on their own…. I really expected more from a heavy weight like Juan… the pitch is not there for boxing, but when it happens, do it right and take the man on by your self!!!!!!!!!

  • Herman - 2009-05-18 09:32

    The Bok jersey wont look good with vomit on it.Rather not Luke!

  • Dan Bruwer - 2009-05-18 09:33

    Quite clearly many of the bloggers here are not mature enough to forgive and forget. I bet 99% of the bloggers here are semi-illiterate old NP supporters, as their spelling suggests. The comment of keep politics out of sport only suits them now that they are not the dominant political force. Quite convenient hey, chaps? What about when sport was whites only under the old regime? I was also outraged by Luke's comments but am old and wise enough not to believe everything the media spews out. Luke you are forgiven and well done on letting your rugby talk. It is disgracefull the way you are treated at some stadiums and i would like to appoligize for that on behalf of true South Africans.

  • Anonymous User - 2009-05-18 09:37

    Peet get grip,Luke Watson do not deserve to ever wear a Sprigbok jersey

  • Anonymous User - 2009-05-18 09:38

    Siphiwo, shame, sorry to hear the springbok is "White supremacist ideology". The fun thing about this is that as soon as black people accept the springbok without any white blah blah blah bull****, only then will this country be reconciled. Look in the mirror, who is moaning the whole time, the black people. Eish... it seems as if the big struggle continues...

  • Paddy - 2009-05-18 09:39

    Come on guys - Luke is not the best contender anyway. Why on earth do some people bring politics into this magnificent game? Leave the political fighting and mudslinging to Julius! He does a superb job! Lets concentrate on selecting the best players to beat the Lions! If Luke is not selected it will not be because of his remarks - beleive me! Yes, he has played well, but not as good as a number of other guys!

  • Kolkas - 2009-05-18 09:40

    Why should he apologise when he did not say it. Journalist say he said that, but the same journalist will not go on record and suddenly no one has proof of the "dutchman" comment at all.Funny that.Also, read the transcript your dumb Dutchmen, beofre you make stupid comments.He was talking about transformation and siat that there were time in the past that he wanted to puke of the Bok Jersey. THE PAST!!! You dumb idiots. Not the current team where it is now or was last year. Once again, NO ONE has proof of the dutchman statement.Of a score of Journalist there,no one can say that he mentioned the word.

  • davey - 2009-05-18 09:45

    Luke overshadowed Spies in the Bulls/Stormers game. If he is omitted then those that cheer must accept that merit selection is thrown out the window. He may not be a likeable guy but so what? Should we now select on character as well as colour?

  • Stevovo - 2009-05-18 09:49

    Firstly, Luke Watson is probably not in the top six loosies in the country anyway. Secondly, he himself boorishly stated that he wants the Bok emblem removed before he will play for his country (since when does a young player get to chant such outrageous demands anyway?). SA Rugby has enough clowns without Watson contributing to the circus. Please won't one of the overseas sides offer him a contract and take him off our hands? Or is he not good enough to get poached?

  • Gabriël - 2009-05-18 09:50

    Luke is a legend and a true example. Yes, he made a mistake. But havent we all? He who is without fault may cast the first stone...so I guess that means none of us. Who are we to judge? I admire Luke. He showed his class as a person and a player through out the season, capping it off on saturday when Juan Smith knocked him between the eyes. All he did was get up and walk away...and im pretty sure he could have "klapped" him back. So hats off to Luke. He has left it behind, and taken responsibility for his wrongs by the way he plays and acts on the field. God has forgiven Luke a long time ago...So maybe its time the rest of SA does too.

  • carls - 2009-05-18 09:50

    Luke deserves a bitchslap and a nappy.

  • WP Suck - 2009-05-18 09:52

    NO NO NO!!!there is no way in hell he's better than spies or Kankowski.

  • Anonymous User - 2009-05-18 09:52

    What a joke - Luke is disliked by the majority of SA rugby players and would certainly mess up the team dynamics. I bet not too many of the current Springboks would like to see him in the side. I hope he never sees a Bok jersey again.

  • ouklip - 2009-05-18 09:53

    What has changed for him to play in the Springbok colours. Does he need to buy a new drivers license? He has played well but he has not said anything about his statements. Did he say it or did the papers lie. If he said it he owes all the "dutchman" , a " hey boet I am sorry. If he did not say it, please do not get sick on it as millions of Springbok supporters might be really upset.

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