Bakkies: Official statement

2009-07-02 15:32

Johannesburg - The Appeal Committee has dismissed the appeal by Bakkies Botha against the finding of Breach of Law 10 (4) (j) - by dangerous charging in a ruck or maul without binding.

On appeal, the rules dictate  that the appellant carries the onus of proof that the decision of the Judicial Officer should be overturned or varied - this onus was not discharged on the facts. As a result and on those grounds, the appeal was dismissed.

However in the course of comprehensive and able submissions by Mr Gerrie Swart for the appellant, a very important point of principle was developed as to the proper application of this Law and in particular when a player lawfully binds or attempts to bind for the purpose of this Law.

The Appeal Committee will set out its conclusion in a full decision as soon as possible. However that conclusion would not have influenced the decision reached.

The appeal against the penalty was dismissed.


  • Met Uysh! - 2009-07-02 15:42

    Don;t get it...we appeal but then we don't give evidence to prove his innocence? Whatch the video?

  • GENIS - 2009-07-02 15:43

    Great stuff! The dirtiest player in modern rugby has finally met his match. Who's smiling now Bakkies? You should never be allowed to enter a staduim again, you big bully. I would like to walk into Bakkies in a BAR and then show him what exactly the lions will do to him!

  • Jeff Aucamp - 2009-07-02 15:48

    Once again the diciplinary officials turn out to be a bunch of bumbling amateurs who don't share the love of rugby with the paying public.Bakkies is a hard and robust player in the best Blue Bull and Bok tradition,now some limp wristed official has the power(if not the insight)to put this great forwards international career on ice for two weeks.

  • sdasd - 2009-07-02 15:51

    ahahaha GENIS... you're so mean and tough.

  • BAKKIES - 2009-07-02 15:52

    Genis you idiot!! You are all soft, please don't cry!

  • Houston - 2009-07-02 15:53

    genis, or should that be penis, I would also like to see that. As for Bakkies, what a joke, illegal binding or not, it was good rugby. How come BI hooker didnt get cited. Bunch of girls these lions, i'm hoping for a schnot lions klap this weekend!!!

  • Andrew - 2009-07-02 15:53

    Hey Genis...or is it Penis? Either way you're a Dick!! Big man venting with a keyboard!

  • Mr Happy - 2009-07-02 15:54

    Ridiculous - let's all get our tutus out....

  • Louis - 2009-07-02 15:55

    This is pathetic. The soft poms cannot handle rugby as it should be played. Genis you make we want to vomit on your jersey!

  • Jeff Aucamp - 2009-07-02 15:56

    Genis,you wont see Bakkies in a bar you frequent.He is married therfore straight.

  • Bullet - 2009-07-02 15:56

    Genis - it is easy to state you "would like to walk into Bakkies in a BAR and the show him" on a site like this. Remember Bakkies is not just any old "bully" - he is a very very large "bully". As my Mom always tells me - do not wish for something you might regret!! I think a "Lion" (a real one) would sh...t itself it walked into a bar a met Bakkies. Bakkies is the Bok "enforcer" and he does a great job. Bakkies enjoy the break boet - the Tri-Nations is on its way.

  • David - 2009-07-02 15:56

    I am amazed at the blindness shown by all other countries where their players transgressions are condoned.

  • Bliiksem - 2009-07-02 15:57

    @GENIS : ou pel , just make sure your medical aid is up do date before you walk into the bar (some advice : DONT look him in the eyes) . We must actually start a new joke here like :"one day this oke GENIS walks into a bar ........"

  • Bakkies rulz - 2009-07-02 15:59

    Genis i hope u run into Bakkies at a bar, and he gives you a snotklap to knock sum sense into you

  • Greg De Villiers - 2009-07-02 15:59

    GENIS: Name the bar, buddy! Big mouth, little brain. Cry me a river with your "dirtiest player" sissy nonsense. Go watch netball. Maak die Bokke Almal BAKKIES - dan kak die hull fkken lot van hulle!

  • Oupa - 2009-07-02 16:02

    @GENIS. Had too much dutch courage at tea time? Careful boet your wish may just come true one day and then you better hope Bakkies is in a good mood.

  • Don - 2009-07-02 16:03

    Genis - you are one big mouth - I bet you would not walk into any bar where Bakkies is. I have yet to see any disciplinary official turn over appeals that emanates from the Springbok squad.

  • Nazgul - 2009-07-02 16:03

    GENIS you little man, I would LOVE to be in that bar when you try that with Bakkies. It would be the funniest thing ever!!

  • Get over it - 2009-07-02 16:04

    @ Genis. I'd actually also love it if you'd walked into Bakkies in a Bar. You sound like the little yapping dog type that's all bravado when you are protected by anonymity. But then again, Bakkies being a very nice guy, he’d probably not give you the hiding you so obviously deserve.

  • Ben - 2009-07-02 16:04

    @ GENIS.....LOOOOOL!!!!!!

  • Luke - 2009-07-02 16:07

    @ Genis. Bakkies the dirtiest player in modern rugby. I'm sure Schalk Burger has proved you wrong on numerous occassions.

  • John - 2009-07-02 16:10

    Genis - I would seriously reconsider bumping heads with Bakkies in a bar. Unless you are some kind of super hero dont go there. Stick to fighting with him in cyberspace and your imagination. Not that you will ever find him in a bar.

  • Hansie - 2009-07-02 16:12

    Genis, I would love to be in that same bar to see the smile being bliksemed off your face. Who would be smiling then????????

  • CWF - 2009-07-02 16:13

    Bakkies has been walking a tightrope for ages and was lucky to escape a 2nd punishment in the S14. He is anything BUT a clean or fair player and constantly relies on out and out thuggery rather than ability. How he manages to balance that with his so called Christian views is diabolical. What annoys me most is that he is a talented player and has absolutely no need to resort to the sort of tactics that he does. Look at Matfield, a hard uncompromising player who does'nt stoop to Bakkies's level. So to the great John Smit - hard, fiercesome and dedicated but plays the game the way it should be. Sorry, but I have no sympathy for Bakkies or his myopic Bulls supporters.

  • De-Moer-In - 2009-07-02 16:13

    The Appeal Committee was covering for the Judicial Officer. They never were going to go against the Home Unions! Bakkies is at the short end of Rugby Politics.

  • Raymond - 2009-07-02 16:16

    Hou jou hare- If Adam Jones was'nt injured,nothing would have happened.You see this type of play in all rugby matches,it is part of the game and you have to take it like a man.Don't dish out if you can't eat it !! Watch the video with Sheridan and Bekker-we are not crying,we could have if we wanted to,but Cowboys don't Cry.

  • piet - 2009-07-02 16:17

    Genis you got a huge mouth for a shrimp. I would love to see Bakkies face up to you and shut your gob for good. Go back to Europe you sorry loser.

  • Gary - 2009-07-02 16:20

    Hey 'Genius', Simon Shaw is one of the dirtiest players around - and has as many yellow cards as the worst of them around. He got away with a number of high tackles last weekend, but then again, being so one-eyed like all the mud island inhabitants, you wouldn't have noticed that would you ?

  • One set of laws for one ..... - 2009-07-02 16:22

    Immediately after Bakkies cleaned out Jones , a Lions player came in from the side and did exactly the same thing to Bakkies yet was neither cited nor punished . Even worse , it was obviously done in retaliation . How sick is that citing commissioner ?

  • Bakkies Fan - 2009-07-02 16:23

    Haha, shame penis, If you can't take the hit then don't play rugby against the world champs.. It looked like that poor little afroman got hit by a bus when Bakkies pulled in..hahaha

  • ANDRE - 2009-07-02 16:24

    @Genis - I agree with you. At least we will be able to watch a clean game of rugby as it should be played! I dont think you ll meet Bakkies Bully in a pub. He drinks milkshake!

  • Bliiksem - 2009-07-02 16:26

    One day this oke GENIS walks into a bar and tuned Bakkies n emmertjie k*k aiming for Bakkie's nuts but hitting the knee instead. Bakkies threw him a kiss (like in Phil Waugh) en ewe skielik spat Genis se hele oogbank oop !!! ......

  • harding - 2009-07-02 16:27

    Time for these soar grape, ass nugget, dingle berry lion supporters to take a hike back to that zoo you call the British isle. You are such a bunch of bad losers.What was it , 3 tries to 1?really. lets be honest, if this series went on for two more games it really would have been a sad state of affairs .Why don’t you start playing rugby for 80 min and that way we don’t have to listen to you crying in your lagers!

  • Idiots - 2009-07-02 16:28

    Well done Genis. All these bloggers names have been popping up raving about their unfounded intelligence all day long. In 1 quick comment you proved that they are actually all Stupid, gullible idiots who can not tell the difference between fiction and reality!!

  • BAK-STEEN - 2009-07-02 16:29

    Genis-rather try running into a brick wall,at least you may have a better chance of breaking it and less damage to youself.

  • Luke - 2009-07-02 16:38

    Same old story. Victimise the SA players and let the other !@#!@ get away with it!!!

  • curious - 2009-07-02 16:42

    We are constantly hammering on the Schalk Burger issue, I do however want to ask why we label him as such a dirty player? Can anyone please give me an example other than the latest or his so called dirty play? Or is it that he is just like Bakkies, the most physical opponents you would ever have to play?

  • cameron - 2009-07-02 16:44

    That was a bit stupid from Bakkies Botha anyway. Genis, I will not go as far as say that bakkies is the dirtiest player - but he right up there. Mr. Burger on the other hand should count his lucky stars. Truth is that South African players tend to draw on the short straw when it comes to citings and hearings, but then again, if you look at our record in the past, it shows why they are so strict. Maybe one day we will not feel so hard done by. Cameron

  • deutsche_bok - 2009-07-02 16:46

    hey lads, whats all this fuss about this genis guy, take a chill pill lads, you are taking your eyes off the ball. Fact is Bakkies has been cited and lost the appeal for what any rugby fanatic will tell you is textbook forward play. The commisioners official statement was that the boks couldn't prove bakkies bound (as thats what they would have had prove to win the appeal). Point is, they admit that a new principle was developed, but that this new principle did not affect the apeals decision). I theorise that the new principle would have cleared bakkies and thus ask the question of why wasn't it applied in his case if they admit to having developed it!!! A bunch of the old guard (i.e. BIL supporters) trying to level the playing field??? Ok thats my 2 cents conspiracy theory (which assumes I understood the report correctly, hehe)

  • katman - 2009-07-02 16:50

    Question is, are they going penalise (or cite) every single incidence of ruck cleaning from today on? The rules also state that scrum feeds must be straight and down the middle - is this going to be enforced? And players (like the injured Jones) who aren't actually part of the ruck but "stand guard" on the fringes - are they going to be blown up for obstruction? If the Woolly Welshman hadn't been loitering, Bakkies wouldn't have felt the need to move him aside.

  • Sharks Fan - 2009-07-02 17:02

    hahahahahaha ok wow what a bunch of w@nkers...bakkies should show them what a REAL shoulder charge is...he'd prob get aressted for atempted murder...that appeal comitee is just messed many lions played dirty they ALL did...but bakkies get the flak...this is just wrong Genis...Bakkies will take on that ENTIRE bar...all at the same time...WITHOUT spilling his brandy and coke...then he'll stare at the bar untill it EXPLODES...and still crawl out the rubble without a single scratch

  • frikkie - 2009-07-02 17:12

    Genis, do you want to join me for some "canned lion hunting" on Saturday. I'm looking forward seeing the Lions getting annihilated - when was the last time the Lions recorded a victory (2001, is'nt?) By the way, you are such a bunch of hypocrites with "bullocks punching" sheridan and "no arms" O'Driscoll

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  • ROOIE - 2009-07-02 19:37

    I must say that he(bakkies) does give me the impression that he's out to hurt players in a bullying type of way. Granted, he is a physical player , but i generally look down on people who so obviously hide behind rule technicallities to try to hurt others. If someone asked me who the dirtiest player in SA is, I'd have to say ol Bakkies. Remember how OS used to cut down backline players with his amazing textbook tackles. Imagine if he had Bakkies' attitude? It would have been ugly and he wouldn't be the legend he is today.(Honniball, Braam v Straaten, DeWet Barry, Wickus, etc etc are all guys who can and did DRILL other players without being a pig about it. In fact, what bakkies does is a bit embarrassing for me. It reeks of insecurity-(funnilly enough).His type of play is the reason a lot of foreigners don't like us as a culture. He really could be an even better player if he focussed on being more constructive and hence more LETHAL. Butch used to late tackle guys after they'd passed and weren't expecting it.("cheap shot"). I always thought less of him after that.

  • Ian - 2009-07-02 20:03

    sorry guys bakkies got what he deserved you where loosing the scrums beast was being pushed backwards bakkies saw a chance and took it it worked S A took the game through passive scrums if some of you new any thing about rugby you know the first thing you do when loosing is take out the danger men bakkies know this to well

  • george - 2009-07-02 20:08

    The problem with those that administer rugby is that they do not know the difference between shit and clay.

  • Boela - 2009-07-03 07:24

    Bokkie bly Koning in die skrum!!!! Donner hulle op Bakkies, donner hulle op!!!

  • Hein Pretoria - 2009-07-03 07:40

    Genis, the meeting has been arranged for Monday the 6th July 2009 at 17:00 at RuggaBugga’s in Centurion. See you there, if you’ve got the guts???????? Let’s get one thing straight, Bakkies is a physical player but not a dirty player. The BI&L’s prop just vanished in front of Bakkies so he had nothing to bind to.

  • henk - 2009-07-03 08:06

    well said george, only problem is that its some supporters that doesnt know s*** from clay and not administrators. the rules and regulations are available on the IRB website and differ a bit from those you get hold af in the bar

  • Pieter - 2009-07-03 09:02

    This citing commissionars and the B&I Lions reminds me of little kids playing games. They change the rules and interpretation of the rules as they go along because in their naiive little minds it is sometimes the only way they think they can win.

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