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Lawrence: I was hounded out

2012-10-17 09:00

London - Retired referee Bryce Lawrence has claimed he was hounded out of rugby by Australia and South Africa following his performance in last year's Rugby World Cup quarter-final.

Lawrence, 41, has also revealed his performance in that game in Wellington was influenced by behind-the-scenes complaints from Australian Rugby Union chief executive John O'Neill.

"I had four really good games at the World Cup and then I had that," New Zealander Lawrence told the Bay Of Plenty Times.

"There was some pretty nasty political stuff going on about that appointment. I refereed Australia versus Ireland and Ireland had won but behind the scenes guys like John O'Neill were kicking up a massive stink.

"I knew a bit about that and it was enough to affect me, and it probably made me freeze on the biggest stage."

Australia beat South Africa in Wellington and the fall-out from that match led directly to Lawrence deciding to retire and take up a role as the New Zealand Rugby Union high-performance referee reviewer.

Lawrence was stood down from the International Rugby Board's elite panel after the World Cup and he did not take charge of any Super Rugby matches in South Africa.

"It (the reaction) got pretty bad," Lawrence said.

"On Facebook they launched a 'get rid of Bryce Lawrence' site and it was pretty nasty.

"That was absolutely the reason for my career change.

"I got told at the end of the World Cup that I would have a break from Test rugby for the Six Nations and I could totally accept that as there has to be a consequence for poor performance.

"I was told I would be brought back in the middle of this year, as I was ranked in the top three or four referees in the world. But because of the political reaction from rugby unions like Australia and South Africa behind the scenes, they dropped me."

Last month, British and Irish Lions c–oach Warren Gatland highlighted the pressure Lawrence had been placed under by O'Neill as he outlined the challenges that await his team in Australia.

O'Neill last week resigned from his post at the ARU to focus on business interests outside rugby.


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Comments
  • hansieenelmien.myburgh - 2012-10-17 09:07

    WELL DONE AUSTRALIA AND SOUTH AFRICA!!!!!!!!! YOU DID RUGBY A HUGE FAVOUR.

      blou.bul.94 - 2012-10-17 09:19

      For sure. Only it should have happened long ago.

      erich.goosen - 2012-10-18 09:23

      Foxes and skunks are the favourite victims for hunting hounds.

      vark.nek.90 - 2012-10-20 15:33

      Bryce you need a pat on the back. You are the only NZ involved in rugby that ever admitted to freezing. Richie McCaw, Sean Fitzpatrick and All Blacks rugby players in general freeze every game when it comes to adhering to the off-side-, slowing the ball down-, etc., rules.

  • morne.vandyk.58 - 2012-10-17 09:09

    The same news again. Well, the same as yesterday then - Dumb Ass cost us the World Cup and nothing will change it now.

  • jaco.groenewald.731 - 2012-10-17 09:10

    For the first time EVER I will say WELL DONE OZ!!!!!!!!!!!

      jaco.groenewald.731 - 2012-10-17 09:13

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      henk.jacobs.39 - 2012-10-17 09:43

      Gaan jy of ek hom begin????

      bakkies.botha.39 - 2012-10-17 11:32

      Ek sal

      henk.jacobs.39 - 2012-10-17 11:50

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      bakkies.botha.39 - 2012-10-17 12:02

      Nee hell tjom, dis te min, waar bly jy?

      margie.swanepoel - 2012-10-17 12:03

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      henk.jacobs.39 - 2012-10-17 12:29

      Ek bedoel dit eintlik 'n bietjie sarkasties! Daar is 'n HELE paar mense wat skuins bedonn3rd is oor die debakel!!!

      henk.jacobs.39 - 2012-10-17 13:17

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  • rinus.groeneveld.7 - 2012-10-17 09:12

    You were consitently below par Bryce - even your country's Captain said it. Do not try to shift the focus from plain incompetence to SA and Aus. It is the same as blaming apartheid for spending R250 million on Nkandla.

      apart1heid - 2012-10-17 12:30

      ja nee, dis absolute snert di',... ek word van/vir alles beskuldig en blameer, tewyl di varke wat regtig di str00nt aanjaag, op my infrastruktuur baljaar en vereer word vir my harde werk??

      rowan.clark.10 - 2012-10-17 21:35

      Can,t get my head around NZ complaining about boycotting the world cup due to lack of funding at the beginning .Then after the world cup was done and dusted they award B. (j) L. for blowing his sorry whistle the best in NZ . ,and No more complaints were heard of about lack of funding at the end . ???

  • rishaal.sewpaul - 2012-10-17 09:15

    the constant changing of rules and misinterpretation therof is ruining a great sport...

  • blou.bul.94 - 2012-10-17 09:18

    He should have been forced to retire long ago. Probably he does not need to work any more after the huge bribery payouts.

      lindsay.amner - 2012-10-18 09:34

      Perhaps you could explain who bribed him since you know so much about it? Who had the money to do it? No NZer would have done it because we all thought Australia was more of a threat to the All Blacks anyway and there's very little money in NZ rugby. Maybe the Australians did, but if they did they would want their money back, because he actually penalised Australia more than SA. These conspiracy theories are so nutty it's laughable. If Brossouw hadn't gone off injured, Lawrence's lack of action at the breakdown could have played into the Boks' hands instead of Pocock's. He didn't favour one side over the other, he simply froze and couldn't make decisions.

      loodpil.lipdool - 2012-10-18 10:40

      Ok, here's a stupid question for you: when a referee "freezes" and does not referee the ruck, which team does it affect the most ? The defending team, or the attacking team with all the possession in the match ?

      lindsay.amner - 2012-10-19 01:00

      Ah yes of course - thanks lipdool, that explains who bribed him!

      CapeChappy - 2012-10-20 18:35

      Lindsay, you're either a troll or a fake kiwi that knows little about rugby. Every Kiwi I know, plus all the Kiwi rugby journo's said SA were the main concern of the AB's.

  • docnoo.boddy - 2012-10-17 09:21

    Please note, NZ played no part in his expulsion, in fact they name him ref of the year following the WC. They applauded his performance which does not say much about their sportsmanship at all.

      gerrit.vanpletzen - 2012-10-17 11:03

      They would, wouldn't they. He eliminated their strongest opposition.

      lindsay.amner - 2012-10-18 09:38

      Are you serious? The Boks were NZ's strongest opposition? The team that scraped past Wales by 1 point and Samoa by 5 points and thrashed a hopeless Fiji team and a totally outclassed Namibia. Where is the evidence that they were any good? The fact they came last in the tri-nations maybe? As soon as they came up against a useful side they failed to score a try and lost. The team they lost to, then got whacked the next week by NZ. How does this possibly add up to the Springboks being robbed of the WC?

      henk.jacobs.39 - 2012-10-18 10:44

      lindsay, you really don't understand rugby or anything for that matter! Now go sit in the corner and pick your nose further!

      lindsay.amner - 2012-10-19 01:02

      Thanks for your clever comment Henk, demonstrating your great understanding of the game!

  • BlouMasjien1 - 2012-10-17 09:25

    You ain't nothin' but a hound dog

      henk.jacobs.39 - 2012-10-17 11:09

      ...Cryin' all the time... "When they said you was high classed, well, that was just a lie." Elvis was 'n fortune teller!!!!

  • gavin.wrensch - 2012-10-17 09:27

    You got hounded out of rugby because you're a poor referee. The fact that you are a useless twat is a side discussion!!!! "I had four really good games at the World Cup and then I had that," New Zealander Lawrence told the Bay Of Plenty Times. Is Bryce including the Ireland vs Australia game in this equation????? Because if he is, then his maffs (maths) is delicious also........

  • paul.sdoow - 2012-10-17 09:27

    yeah what's worse is now you gonna judge other refs performances? irony at its best

  • andre.terblanche.5 - 2012-10-17 09:29

    Die mnedia doen goed, ons het nou vir MS terug so nou net van AC en JdV ontslae raak.

      spyker.oflanagan - 2012-10-17 09:33

      En Bankie Bekker.

      bakkies.botha.39 - 2012-10-17 12:03

      Blouvoeltjie ek dink jy onderskat ons afrigter, hy gaan hom nie laat rond druk deur die media nie, Steyn het n paar slegte games gehad en MOES rus!!!

      rowan.clark.10 - 2012-10-17 21:53

      You cant fault a coach if he changes a player that is not on form . He must rest and test all the time other wise you have no fire to be there and no new blood to bring in.It's time to get a captain /s on the field that the team and coach can grow around .

      diana.meyer.9406 - 2012-10-18 10:56

      Rus!?! WTF? Is julle mal? Morne se tyd was die begin van die seisoen al verby gewees! Jy kan nie verwag om 'n Naas Botha styl game in hedendaagse rygby te speel nie.

  • annelise.vanderschyff - 2012-10-17 09:47

    No lost!!!!

  • thabiso.letlhabane - 2012-10-17 09:48

    yes, ur out stop b*tchin abt it

  • grant.butler.104 - 2012-10-17 09:56

    The people I feel most sorry for are the average Joe Supporter who pays hard earned cash to go watch ' sport ' events....Huge subscription fees for DSTV, etc....only to realise that the drama being played out on the track and fields is being , in many instaces, criminally influenced....Examples are the Hansie saga, Lance Armstrong, countless steroid filled athletes, soccer match fixing scandals, the list goes on and on..... sad state of affairs....anyone being caught should be banned for ife in my opinion, absolutely disgusting state of affairs....

      chez.kri - 2012-10-17 11:43

      @Grant. I agree with you. I watched loads of Hansie games live. Spent money on tickets, fuel, parking, sun cream:) and flags to wave. I was at the Pretoria game where the whole scandal started. As much as I was a Hansie fan, I resent that. Thats why I don't watch Pakistan cricket, or the IPL, just don't trust them.

      laurence.bekink.3 - 2012-10-18 10:16

      *facepalm* What meaningless drivel thou dost spew.

  • jack.oosthuizen.1 - 2012-10-17 10:01

    Well, he can claim he was "hounded out", when in fact he should have been sacked immediately after the AUS vs. SA fiasco!! AND, then to be named referee of the year by the Kiwis is just a kick in the knackers.... Now he is going to be training overseeing Kiwi ref's, LORD HELP US!

  • karl.waugh.3 - 2012-10-17 10:07

    Au shame. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

  • steve.vanrooyen - 2012-10-17 10:08

    How this chap ever became an international ref in the first place is beyond me!

      diana.meyer.9406 - 2012-10-18 10:58

      Simple... he used to be better...

  • chris.bezuidenhout.161 - 2012-10-17 10:09

    Shame. You just cost us the World Cup you idiot!

      lindsay.amner - 2012-10-18 09:40

      I really don't know why South Africans are convinced that this reffing performance cost them the World Cup. Where is the realistic basis for this belief? SA beat Wales by 1 point, thrashed a hopeless Fiji side and an outclassed Namibia and scraped past a tired Samoa side by 5 points. They had finished last in the Tri nations, with only one win - beating an under strength AB team without any of its stars. How does this record lead to the belief that the Boks were the best team in the competition? The All Blacks at the WC were far more worried about Australia and if any NZer had bribed the ref it would have been to make sure SA won that game, as the predictability of the Bok game plan meant they were far less of a threat. You're completely deluded if you think that a team of old blokes way past their prime was going to threaten the All Blacks. Get real!

      diana.meyer.9406 - 2012-10-18 10:59

      We would never have won the W/C! We needed to have an actual coach to achieve such a feat!

  • marnus.lowe - 2012-10-17 10:13

    Bye-bye Brycie!

  • marnus.lowe - 2012-10-17 10:17

    Bye-bye Brycie!

  • Carlo Johann Oerson - 2012-10-17 10:21

    ...Excuses always FOLLOWS Bryce....We are all use 2 that Psyco-Trick. So, You've Lay Your Wistle At Rest, which means STICK 2 IT SUCKER!!!!

  • jaco.gerber.338 - 2012-10-17 10:22

    Moet ons nou vir Bryce haat omdat hy ons die 'world cup' gekos het of moet ons hom bedank dat hy Divvy gepos het. Heyneke is nou nie juis 'n verbetering op Divvy nie. Dis nog vroeg maar my bloeddruk karnuffel my gesondheid wanneer Heyneke elke keer sy radio gebruik(misbruik). Sou verkies het om wereldkapioen te bly.....met Divvy. Ai, dis nou gemengde gevoelens.Nee/Dankie Bryce?

  • Zipho Msila - 2012-10-17 10:34

    I'm a proud South african, we all make mistake in life ,Bryce made a mistake like a normal human being...we as South african should forgive and forget...Mr. Lawrence wish u all d best 4 d future hope my fellow springbok fans will forgive u like i did.

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2012-10-17 13:10

      I don't think so... they don't have it in them. They can get a ref from another country to resign, but they can't even do something about their usless government.

      ckrohne1 - 2012-10-17 15:03

      I wish i had the big heart like you have. Not easy. Only thing that will help is if the Boks win the next WC.

  • edwardsch - 2012-10-17 10:37

    Go away already you horrible excuse of a referee. Cry a bucket and let someone who cares listen to your blubbering. A cheat is a cheat and you sold out your soul, plain and simple !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • jason.rudolph.5 - 2012-10-17 10:41

    hope it was worth it

  • KevvyW - 2012-10-17 11:04

    Good Riddens - A crook has left rugby...Now for the South African Rugby bosses to sack themselves...I wonder how much doe he stacked away over the years......No Loss to Rugby.....

  • margo.george.18 - 2012-10-17 11:11

    People saying that bok team would've beaten the all blacks but they got a losing percentage against the all blacks on the other hand the all black can make a claim like that after the Wayne Barnes incident where they got a winning percentage.Last year the boks gave the tri-nations to Aus with that loss at home and they even struggle to beat an understrenght NZ team.The difference between the boks and the all blacks is that the boks always looking for someone to blame while the all blacks want 2 improve.

      ckrohne1 - 2012-10-17 15:09

      Margo: go ask any real NZ who their biggest rival is and they tell you the Bokke! The same goes for the Bokke supporters, ask any SAFFA who they think is their biggest rival and they will tell you NZ. My point is either NZ or SA will never go into a game and think they definately will win that game.

      johnson.burger.7 - 2012-10-17 20:46

      Actually ckrohne - Australia is. South Africa is a third world country with small minded scum for fans.

      audrey.lang.10 - 2012-10-18 02:58

      Hey Johnson, then why are you on a south african website? Seeing that they are all "scum", why do you feel the urge to speak to "scum" from a "third world country"? Funny how that works, spending all your time watching and reading about people you don't like..........

      lindsay.amner - 2012-10-18 09:46

      SA traditionally have been NZ's biggest rival but in recent years this has changed. Most Kiwis now think that Australia is NZ's closest rival. The number of times that Australia has beaten the All Blacks in recent years compared to the number of times we've lost to SA bears this out. Most Kiwis rate the Bledisloe Cup as a more valuable trophy than the Tri-nations or Rugby Championship. Even Richie McCaw said something to this effect recently.

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2012-10-19 03:18

      You're right, here in Australia the Rivals are NZ and AUS, they can't stand each other... in South Afirca they hate Aus... but here, they don't really care much for SA... lol it's wierd.

  • bruce.cloete - 2012-10-17 11:35

    Good ridens 2 bad rubbish,u gave your country the title that elluded them now u blame others 4 your poor standard,u should have been fired and not given the otion 2 retire

      lindsay.amner - 2012-10-18 09:48

      you're totally deluded if you think that SA's bunch of past their prime Springboks would have beaten that All Blacks side in the semi-final.

  • margie.swanepoel - 2012-10-17 12:01

    Maybe if just once you had admittted that you had made mistakes, and said you were sorry - the SA public might have been more forgiving. But your total arrogance was amazing.

      ckrohne1 - 2012-10-17 15:10

      And he is still playing the blame game...

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2012-10-17 15:18

      Um... he has over and over admitted it and said sorry. It's done and dusted, go tackle all the other useless refs now. Like the 2010 soccer world cup, that were even worse than Bryce... much much worse. Never have I seen refs as pathetic as that.

  • deon.louw.7505 - 2012-10-17 12:04

    Lawrence was simply not good enough to ref. He even failed at TV reffing (Super Rugby). Rather try bowls.

  • keba.mothoagae - 2012-10-17 12:16

    The only thing worse than Bryce's reffing and the resultant fallout is this notion by many among us that we'd have beaten the All Blacks the next weekend. The very All Blacks team that is far and away the best sports team on earth in the second decade of the OOs. You'd think the pasting of the second ranked team on earth at Soccer City would have settled the debate.\r\n\r\nBryce screwed us over, we lived to see another day and our lives have moved on since. New Zealanders eventually forgot about Wayne Barnes...

  • gary.clark.376 - 2012-10-17 13:19

    Clearly not strong enough to ref at all, ( refereed Australia versus Ireland and Ireland had won but behind the scenes guys like John O'Neill were kicking up a massive stink. "I knew a bit about that and it was enough to affect me, and it probably made me freeze on the biggest stage.)

  • bas.horneman - 2012-10-17 13:21

    The damage has been done. Irreparable. What shocks me is that he even admits Australia put pressure on him because they lost against Ireland!!!????!!! And that it affected him!!????!!! If you can't stand the heat. Get of of the kitchen. You made the right decision Bryce.

  • cyanideandhappiness - 2012-10-17 15:25

    Just admit you were bribed man.

  • Derick.kleyn - 2012-10-17 16:39

    Wow so many people saying nz would have beaten the mighty bokke,and I say mighty coz that's how they played in the tournament.uhm yet here we have a nz ref saying he's decision making or shud I say lack there of was down to outside influences(an australian rugby official) and cummon people there is obviously more to that story than what's being portrayed here.what would a nz ref have to gain or lose here?firstly how would a aus official affect him when his carreer is controlled by the nz governing body?secondly if the new zealanders are so great why was the officiating of that match so poor by mr bryce?I dnt care who says what but had new zealand faced the amount of pressure the australians did during that quarter final they would have cracked!!!!and that is what they were most afraid of.

      johnson.burger.7 - 2012-10-17 21:05

      Awww poor little Derrick, still wondering what if. I will put you out of your misery. South Africa lost to Aussie therefore did not advance. It's really quite simple to understand.

      Derick.kleyn - 2012-10-17 22:41

      Awww poor little johnnnson,i see you did not read my comment properly...if you did u would see that there was no wondering or what if lol,it was a definite!may I suggest glasses?coz I dnt think u saw that game as the rest of the world did or maybe u were watching and entirely different match altogether...but anyway keep up with the delusion and keep smiling buddy :)

      lindsay.amner - 2012-10-18 09:57

      If NZ had played SA in the semi-final they would have been 20 points ahead by the time the final quarter arrived. there would have been no pressure in the final quarter from the Boks. NZ would have probably added another 10 points in this quarter and won by about 30. A one dimensional team would have been playing a multi-dimensional team and would have lost in a similar way to last week.

  • rayno.grever - 2012-10-17 17:42

    tw@

  • jcoetzee1975 - 2012-10-17 20:15

    and rightly so. hounded nogal. be glad it wasnt a shotgun.

  • johnson.burger.7 - 2012-10-17 20:43

    Hey SA, you would have never won the world cup. You lost to Aussie all year previously and you lost again in the world cup. Stop your crying little girls, you just weren't good enough and still aren't good enough and probably never will be good enough again. Dry your eyes

      hans.himmler.7 - 2012-10-17 22:23

      Johnson, not all true. Take into consideration the Boks never had a coach in Pieter de Villiers. Now I do not disagree that they were good during that World Cup, but take into consideration our Clown de Villiers, and you should realize that the boys did ok. Now add the fact that had Bryce been 5% more transparent or on the field, the Boks could've won that game - without a coach. Now that is good enough. Yes, "probably never will be good enough again", well if the ANC have their way we won't be. Truth is we have enough expats around the world who would make a better Bok team than our local boys - given some training, purely because politics is crippling the sport in SA. Fact is Bryce Lawrence and Steve Walsh are cooks who don't deserve to be on the field. Walsh for cocking up the 2007 S14 Final.

      audrey.lang.10 - 2012-10-18 03:06

      "Hey SA, you would have never won the world cup" Ahem, we have won it twice, Johnson. And one win was at our first World Cup, where we were massive underdogs. "Stop your crying little girls, you just weren't good enough and still aren't good enough and probably never will be good enough again. Dry your eyes" Is that what your mommy said to you, Johnson? What did you do wrong ? Why was your mommy so angry at you?

  • pierre.joubert.338 - 2012-10-17 20:45

    No matter how we look at it, he will always be a hero in NZ (and of course amongst the cape maoris)

  • prinslooman - 2012-10-17 23:17

    Carrying on like a little boy. He made mistakes, he should take up responsibility for them like the adult male he is!

  • chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-10-17 23:47

    It just shows you what a pathetic excuse for a ref he was if things like that influenced his performance. But I think it is only excuses. His performances in the ITM Cup this year was just as bad, sometimes even worse, and Aus and SA had nothing to do with that. Bryce, you were just a hopeless ref, it's time you realise that. You were never in the top 3 or 4 refs in the world. Not even the top 20. Don't believe Paddy O'Brien or Lyndon Bray when they tell you that.

  • peyperlp - 2012-10-18 05:54

    Guys reading all your comments I couldn't agree more with you, the fact remains that Bryce Lawrence performance was so obvious what he was doing in that Semi-Final vs that of Craig Joubert in the Final. All ref's make at least 10% errors during a game, just as what we do on the outside world. But Mr Lawrence had the wrong perception he obviously thought he only had to be 10% correct. However it is history & I am glad he decided to hang up the whistle & now it is the turn of another Mr Lawrence to hang up his whistle & rulebook.

  • nicolette.louw - 2012-10-18 06:34

    He can say what he wants, that quarter final between SA and Aus was fixed, finished and klaar!

      lindsay.amner - 2012-10-18 10:02

      explain why anyone would pay a ref to ensure the number 2 side beat the number 3 side? There's no money to be made in betting on that. It could have only been done for pride and honour of Australia and who's going to pay massive money for that? Don't be stupid.

      nicolette.louw - 2012-10-18 18:01

      @lindsay.amner The whole Bryce debacle was just too controversial. The RWC 2011 was definitely engineered that NZ would win. Paddy O'Brein, an Kiwi who is the head of IRB Ref board, has stated more than once that he cannot stand South Africa and please explain to me how on earth a Kiwi ref is "neutral" between Aus and SA...especially when it was a fact that either team would play the ABs. SA had a better squad than the Aussies and since the ABs carry the world cup "choker" tag, Paddy O'Brein made sure that all "risks" to prevent their 25 year drought would end. Have you forgotten the game? I sure don't...I remember the Aussies flying like flies EVERY SINGLE TIME we had a line out for a potential maul and NOT ONCE were they blown for the infringements. Remember Pocock and is illegal play and the Aussies claiming that the side who played "to the ref" won the game? SA sport in general strive to be ethical and respectful and yes, we didn't capitalize on our ball possession and territory but Bryce had been stricter at the breakdowns with the Aussies, we would have received far more penalties and possibly a win. Remember when the game was tied and then at the line out we were penalized for no apparent reason? The Aussies converted the penalty kick and won the game. Probably one of the controversial games ever played and people can argue back and forth but you know something was amiss when objective , foreign sports journalists questioned the credibility of the game.

      lindsay.amner - 2012-10-19 00:54

      But where's the evidence? Where's the motive? I'm sorry but the facts don't support any of your assertions about fixing. First- paddy O'Brien was not on the panel that appointed refs for the WC games. This was a separate panel to the IRB ref panel and was chaired by a Scottish bloke - Jeffries. \r\nNext - if NZ was meant to win, why did the top three sides in the world - NZ, SA and Aus, end up on the same side of the draw? Surely it woul have been better to do it like in 2007 when SA only had to beat Fiji and Argentina - ranked 8 and 11 in the world, to reach the final. \r\nAlso NZ has no problem beating SA in world cups but up until that point had never beaten Australia in a WC game. If the IRB wanted NZ to win why would they risk giving them their nemesis as an opponent in the semi? Then they gave them their other nemesis, France, in the final. That the ABs overcame all their previous problem teams shows they were worthy winners. nothing was made easy for them. \r\nAlso I'd like to see where Paddy O'Brien has ever said he doesn't like South Africans. I can remember him telling New Zealanders to grow up in 2007 but I doubt he's ever said that about South Africans.

  • dean.berzen - 2012-10-18 06:55

    You, my friend Bryce have had many useless games that you have refereed, especially when it comes to reffing a South African side............. I hope you realise that no-one gives a continental about you, and you will definitely not be sorely missed!!!!!!! Go to hell you cheating Kiwi!

  • lloyd.venske - 2012-10-18 07:46

    Bye Bye Bryce your fathers words still ring louding in our ears.

  • joanita.hilton - 2012-10-18 08:16

    ok, bye ne Bryce... Go well etc. Maybe take up the competative sport of knitting.

  • lindsay.amner - 2012-10-18 09:26

    I really don't know why South Africans are convinced that this reffing performance cost them the World Cup. Where is the realistic basis for this belief? SA beat Wales by 1 point, thrashed a hopeless Fiji side and an outclassed Namibia and scraped past a tired Samoa side by 5 points. They had finished last in the Tri nations, with only one win - beating an under strength AB team without any of its stars. How does this record lead to the belief that the Boks were the best team in the competition? The All Blacks at the WC were far more worried about Australia and if any NZer had bribed the ref it would have been to make sure SA won that game, as the predictability of the Bok game plan meant they were far less of a threat.

      ben.bjergstad - 2012-10-18 11:00

      What you fail to understand is that we feel robbed by BL's incompetence! No matter how you present it! You gotta-lotta-nerve, I guess we like that, thats why you've stayed on this forum for so long. Just please post your views, there's no need to be repetitive and post the same crap a trillion times. Also please refrain from calling us Stupid, we seriously don't respond well to that. Now a word of advice, don't try defend some one who's indefensible and stop coming over here pretending to be all holier-than-thou, cause I remember '95 and you were sore losers then aswell!

      lindsay.amner - 2012-10-19 00:39

      I am certainly not defending BL. I think he's a hopeless red and had a disastrous game in that quarter final. However anyone who believes the result of that game was fixed is stupid. There is not the slightest shred of evidence for this. At least in 1995 there is no dispute that a number of All Blacks were ill in the week leading to the game. And the ABs were heavy enough favourites to make it worthwhile for a betting syndicate to nobble them. I'm not saying this happened but at least there is a potential motive. There was no motive for BL to let the ABs closest rival - australia- win that game.

      mthunzi.phakathi - 2012-10-19 06:54

      Im sorry lindsay, i have to differ with you. Australia was not the nz players biggest threat, in reality we played in the toughest group. Wales was super last yr, samoa woudlv beaten many a team with the performance against us. We were mre of a threat.

      mthunzi.phakathi - 2012-10-19 06:54

      Im sorry lindsay, i have to differ with you. Australia was not the nz players biggest threat, in reality we played in the toughest group. Wales was super last yr, samoa woudlv beaten many a team with the performance against us. We were mre of a threat.

      lindsay.amner - 2012-10-19 10:48

      But were Wales actually that good? Why did everyone think Wales were good? Because they only lost by 1 point to SA. Why did everyone think SA were playing well? Because they beat Wales! Maybe neither were as good as everyone suddenly thought they were. On the evidence of the game against Australia they weren't that good. With all that possession the Bok backs were not able to break through. They'd have got hammered the next week, just like they did last week, when you all thought they'd turned a corner by beating Australia, suddenly you came up against an actual good team and were brought rudely back to earth. The same thing would have happened last year against the All Blacks. Beating second rate teams does not suddenly mean the team is a world beater, it just means they're better than second rate teams.

  • zane.blignaut - 2012-10-18 10:00

    Well there is an interesting turn of events.... I actually believe Bryce because it proves that the big Boys interfere with outcomes of games by placing Refs under pressure. Bryce took all the heat, while O'Neil was the one that orchestrated that awful spectacle in modern rugby

  • jannie.lubbe.1 - 2012-10-18 10:09

    "...I knew a bit about that and it was enough to affect me, and it probably made me freeze on the biggest stage..." Professionals deal with these sorts of issues and preassure on a daily basis, if you can't handle the heat and it starts to influence your professional judgement... it's time to go my friend, do not blame SARU and ARU!

  • heinrich.badenhorst.395 - 2012-10-19 07:37

    I agree with Bryce Lawrence but the Boks were also their own worst enemy on the day. It was not Lawrence telling Scalk Burger to ran from his own goal line resulting in a try. It was not Lawrence deciding to kick for the corners instead for the posts and remeber when one of the Boks started to go for O'Connor before the conversion, he was not allowed to take it again. Last but not least why is Marius Jonker still untouched after his series of match and series turning blunders?