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WP to deal with red cards

2012-09-16 21:23

Cape Town - Western Province coach Allister Coetzee says the two red cards they received against the Sharks were unacceptable and will be dealt with internally.

Loose forwards Tyrone Holmes and Jebb Sinclair were both sent off for punching in their 43-27 loss at Kings Park in Durban on Saturday evening. A yellow card for Wilhelm van der Sluys four minutes from time ensured the Cape side ended with 12 players on the field as the home side grabbed a bonus point victory.

"Our discipline cost us. We gave away some soft penalties and although we were frustrated our emotions were not channelled  well on the night," Coetzee said in a statement released to the media on Sunday.

"Those two red cards (to Sinclair and Holmes) were unacceptable and we will deal with it internally. We have a protocol to deal with discipline in-house and we will deal with Jebb and Tyrone and then move on from here.

"Both Jebb and Tyrone showed plenty of remorse after the match, but what's done is done and we will move on and focus on our next match."

The good news for the Cape side was that no injuries were reported after the game.

WP, who have now slipped from first to third on the overall log, next face Griquas at Newlands on Saturday (15:00 kick-off).



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Comments
  • blou.johnny - 2012-09-16 21:27

    ...stupid Cape Town thugs...! ...brainless hooligans...! ..they are a disgrace to rugby...! ...they should be banned from rugby for life...! ........losers...!!!

      francois.smith.7 - 2012-09-16 21:30

      Jebb and Tyrone will be promoted to captain and vice captain as Potato head did with Fourie.

      wbschorn - 2012-09-16 21:31

      did you not watch the boks game yesterday? Blue bull bafoon... and Bees? killed a guy.....jeez...

      Flemstone - 2012-09-16 22:36

      Sinclair is Canadian. Holmes is from Joburg.

      steyts - 2012-09-17 05:18

      The biggest idiot hooligan comes from the Bulls... He is the utterly useless and EXTREMELY OVERRATED Dean Greyling... What an embarrassment to South African rugby the bulls have become in only two years time!!

      danie.fick.98 - 2012-09-17 06:40

      johnny,jou blou trassie dean greyling het vir die bokke gewys wat is n breinlose hooligan,idioot!!!!!!

      macziekpk - 2012-09-17 06:55

      Life ban for these two!!!!!!!

      macziekpk - 2012-09-17 07:05

      Classic Mitchells Plain coaching technique. Take your teeth out before you fight aweh

      viva.lebok - 2012-09-17 08:36

      Johnny, if it were Blue Bulls that received 2 red and a yellow card, you would have had 200 thumb ups by now and ZERO thumb downs. When Greyling got carded all SA called for his head. The Bulls supporters were the first. But when a cape player gets carded, the protect him and come up with 1 million excuses. Typical Cape loser attitude.

      macziekpk - 2012-09-17 09:21

      Life ban, no place in this country for punching and fighting!!!! Thumbs down but thumbs up for Dean Greyling being banned for life! Double standards! Loser choker mentalilty

      meyerew - 2012-09-17 09:29

      The 2 WP players are being discussed here, not Dean. If the discussion turns to Dean Greyling, Eben Etsebeth must also be incorporated.

      macziekpk - 2012-09-17 10:03

      Etzebeth banned for life! Bringing the Springbok jersey into disrepute Atrocious shocking disgraceful. Ban the idiot for life. His family are apparently a bit on the rough neck side of life, so it's all to do with how he was dragged up as a child

      marcus.bidoli - 2012-09-17 14:11

      Guys..please don't be so harsh on this guy, give him some credit...he lives in Pretoria and can write ( in English ..nogal )...and he has to deal with a bunch of hasbeen rugby players and coach(es) that are dinosaurs...it must be tough ...It's ok Blou.jonny...it's ok..if it makes you feel better..it might not take the Pretoria out of you but we really feel for you..shame

      John - 2012-09-17 16:42

      you get more stupid by the week.

      hoffjw - 2012-09-18 21:56

      Blou bal....TSk

  • blou.johnny - 2012-09-16 21:40

    ....daai klomp Kaapse vuilgatte is 'n skande vir rugby...!! ....skors die klomp choker-fighters uit alle rugby...!!!!

      miandra.vanzyl - 2012-09-16 22:05

      Jy begin al klink soos n grammafoonplaat wat vasgehak het. Orals op al die sites dieselfde kommentaar oor en oor. Is jy breindood? Sies man (ek is) n bloubulmeisie, maar mense soos jy maak dat ander ons as hoogs kommin sien!

      stirrer.stirrer.5 - 2012-09-16 22:40

      Miandra ek hou van jou

      KeeperofChaos - 2012-09-16 22:55

      Maar dink ondersteuners van ander spanne nie dan reeds dat bloubul ondersteuners n bietjie common is nie? Of is ek verkeerd? Ek was die enigste sharkie wat vir n tyd lank saam met n hele bloubul gesin deurgebring het, en ek moet se die mensies was nie altyd so lekker bo nie. Jy weet, dinge altyd te ver gevat en die toekoms voorspel ens, onderandere...

      Stormerq69 - 2012-09-17 00:00

      Dit van iemand support wat Vuilgat spelers gehad het so Jp Nel, Bakkies Botha, just to name a few?

      stirrer.stirrer.5 - 2012-09-17 00:15

      @stormerq69 Shut up

      Stormerq69 - 2012-09-17 01:32

      Lmga! Aangesien die WP en Weskaap sulke thugs is! Stuur al die Spelers wat Julle \flou bulle\ by WP en Boland gekoop het ;-)

      stirrer.stirrer.5 - 2012-09-17 01:36

      @stormer69 Tyrone en Jebb. BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA Wat 'n klomp patete is julle WP nie, ek weet van 15jarige laities wat dai swape sal omklap man. 11 years cupless

      Stormerq69 - 2012-09-17 02:48

      R50 vir Jou! Hkm try jy dit nie doen nie? Bang hulle bliksem jou? Then again Jys seker nie 'n klap werd nie

      stirrer.stirrer.5 - 2012-09-17 02:59

      @stormer BWA HA, Tyrone my klap? Hy sal in sy kis daarna afgelewer word

      danie.fick.98 - 2012-09-17 06:42

      hahahahaha,jys n joke johnny!!!!

      macziekpk - 2012-09-17 06:56

      Life ban! Whats good for the Damager is good for the Cape Dirty Holes

      mdelange3 - 2012-09-17 07:01

      hey johnny het jy dien bok game gekyk tipies blou bul jy het nie n clue nie jy ook seker n vroueslaner

      john.cruywagen - 2012-09-17 09:18

      @Stirrer So wat jy sê is dat jy hang gereeld saam met 15 jarige laaities uit? Dit vat 'n dapper man om agter sy rekenaar te sit en te praat van ander wat in 'n kis weggedra sal word...

      eden.vanderwiel - 2012-09-18 15:34

      Ja nou dat 2 van wp spelers baklie het is julle teen dit..kom ons begin name noem van vuilgatte.. Bismark, Jannie, Gutro, Dean greyling, Bakkies(grootste vuilgat in sport) en die lys kan nog baie verder gaan

  • gavin.simpson.0 - 2012-09-16 22:02

    Go Griquas 8)

      stirrer.stirrer.5 - 2012-09-16 22:59

      Go Sharks

      joneethling - 2012-09-17 15:23

      Those were 2 perfectly clean punches. In the good old days the jerseypullers would have been penalised.

  • bernard.mackenzie.5 - 2012-09-16 22:35

    I hope Jean "Glass Jaw" Deysel doesn't do an SBW and take up boxing.

      blou.johnny - 2012-09-17 00:04

      ...Sinclair and Holmes are far better boxers, than rugby players...! ...they belong in the boxing ring..

      gavin.simpson.0 - 2012-09-17 06:33

      Glass jaw my butt. Only cowards sucker punch......

      macziekpk - 2012-09-17 07:00

      SHould be banned for life honestly

      TravieGrif - 2012-09-17 09:03

      I have to say that I was totally amazed with the stupidity on the field. I have not seen a fist thrown in anger in years, and then 2 in one game?!?! That was just plain dumb. It is a great pity because despite the conditions, both teams were playing decent rugby, so for those punches to be thrown and it to end up as such a farce was a real shame and I was massively disappointed. What is that behaviour all about? I had my 11 year old son watching with me, and he was horrified that people would punch each other on the rugby field! Way to be an example!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for that!

      neutedop.opinie - 2012-09-17 09:13

      Gavin, not like it was a cheap shot. It was from straight ahead, and Deysel should have expected it, since he was holding on to him. Not talking it good, but was great shot, that you have to give him.

      alfred.neuman.988 - 2012-09-17 09:15

      Not so long ago there was an article on Supersport about how the Boks are sworn at whenthey get off the bus at Newlands. When the Bulls ran on to the field a couple of weeks ago they were booed by the crowd. Some of the WP supporters seem to think this type of behavior also belongs on the blog. No we have the same mentality carried out on the field. I really feel sorry for the well behaved WP supporters and players because there are a few of their kind who are hell bent on giving WP a bad name. Are WP to be the new thugs of South African rugby? I hope not.

      macziekpk - 2012-09-17 09:24

      They booed Potgieter on his 50th cap. If that happened to their beloved Peter Grant at Loftus, we would have to close down the BB union, move our home games to the Affies field and be forced to sacrifice ticket money by playing behind closed doors. No TV rights. But the Newlands idiots do it and it's cool. The anti Bulls sentiment is so strong. Dean Greyling banned for life?? Etzebeth headbutting? Holmes and Sinclair punching? Idiots

      bfvillet - 2012-09-17 19:23

      last time i saw a player put down like that was gert small on a new zealand prop AC will have to stop the sparring sessions

  • dick.etheridge - 2012-09-16 22:36

    Please, I haven't been able to put my nose out the door from shame. That was not the WP team that I've supported for 60 years. And to the crowd that wear horns on their head and rings thru the noses...people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!

      blou.johnny - 2012-09-16 23:46

      ....there is NO excuse for punching...!!!! ...zero, nothing, ziltch...!

      Amanda - 2012-09-17 05:08

      Seems like you were punched a lot as a kid smalljohn.

      macziekpk - 2012-09-17 07:02

      Life ban for all involved

      TravieGrif - 2012-09-17 09:08

      Little Richard, I agree with you. Not the type of rugby that I have come to expect of WP, and it is a pity because the match-ups against the CC teams are all tight at the moment, and can lead to some fun rugga, but that was just horrible. I am sorry that it ended up like that.

  • stirrer.stirrer.5 - 2012-09-16 23:00

    Skors hierdie patetiese unie uit alle vorme van rugby, useless gemors. Hulle het in elk geval omtrent 100 jaar laas 'n beker gewen

      blou.johnny - 2012-09-16 23:52

      ......hierdie jaar wen hulle loshande die Vuilgat-Beker....

      Stormerq69 - 2012-09-16 23:57

      Lmga! Jelousy makes You nasty! Jys seker 'n flou bul wanabe ;-)

      stirrer.stirrer.5 - 2012-09-17 00:17

      @stormerq69 Did you go to school? It's "jealousy" not "jelousy" jou aap. G'n wonder jy support die WP nie, jy kannie tot 11 tel nie, die jare wat hul nou al sonder 'n beker is nie. So op wat sal ek "jeloers" wees? Of is dit dalk "jaloers?"

      Stormerq69 - 2012-09-17 01:34

      Ek wil soos julle \common flou bulle\ spel, net om te wys Ons gee nog om vir Julle! Al is dit so min as moontlik

      stirrer.stirrer.5 - 2012-09-17 01:37

      @stormer Siestog

      Stormerq69 - 2012-09-17 02:46

      Siestog is die grap wat julle is die Jaar

      stirrer.stirrer.5 - 2012-09-17 02:59

      Of julle die laaste 11 jaar

  • blou.johnny - 2012-09-17 00:28

    ...Congratulations WP..! ....you are the proud owners of the Hooligan-Cup... ....well done...!!

      Amanda - 2012-09-17 05:07

      blou.smalljohn. How does it feel to have such a small brain, among other things?

  • michael.verreynne - 2012-09-17 01:01

    For once, I can say that the Bulls played better than WP. But WP, please sort this out. This is not the rugby we are used to see.

      stirrer.stirrer.5 - 2012-09-17 01:33

      Tyd dat ons bietjie vir Bakkies en Dean op Tyrone en Jebb sit. Dan huil die armsalige WP alweer. Soos die laaste 11 jaar

      Stormkaap - 2012-09-17 12:21

      When did the Bulls play better than WP.. They havent beaten WP in two years now and got smoked by Griquas in what was a pathetic display of rugga. Springbok flank in his 50th game was nowhere..

  • stirrer.stirrer.5 - 2012-09-17 01:13

    Is dit nou die WP se vegters? Tyrone en Jebb??? BWA HA HA HA HA HA Die distale derde van my geslagsorgaan is groter as die patete man! En slimmer en vinniger en mooier

  • ivan.sport.18 - 2012-09-17 01:53

    blou.11cups.johnny en stirrer...dink julle regtig julle aanval op WP is geregverdig? Dat die twee spelers rooikaarte gekry het is sekerlik nie goed vir die unie en ondersteuners nie, maar n mens kan nie veralgemeen nie. Julle weet self ons Blou Bul spelers het ook nie altyd n wedstryd voorbeeldig voltooi nie. Ek wag bv steeds dat julle iemand soos Dean Greyling se naam te noem..Die spelers het oortree en hul bestuur sal die nodige straf gee, maar ons moet onthou n speler draf nie op die veld met die idee om n teenstander te slaan nie, dit gebeur alles in die hitte van die stryd en op die ingewing. Vir altyd n Bul.

      stirrer.stirrer.5 - 2012-09-17 02:39

      @ivan Jy's so skeef soos 'n Big pen wat in die son gele het

      lean.sadie - 2012-09-17 04:36

      Classic comment of the day, A bul calling a bul skeef. They are even turning on each other. Dr Spiertjies is mentally handicapped, there is no other explanation for all his wayward comments!! Voel baie jammer vir jou, mag jy een dag bly wees, sonder om anders sleg te se al die tyd. Siestog, voel so jammer vir jou. Ek hoop rerig iemand soos jy het nooit kinders nie.

      Amanda - 2012-09-17 05:00

      Who is this stirrer guy? Seems like he has a small penis, so he has to make fun of everybody else to make himself feel better. Or is this what they call inbreeding?

      Stormerq69 - 2012-09-17 06:52

      Lmga Amanda! Hy het klein tottie sindroom

      TravieGrif - 2012-09-17 09:10

      I agree with you, Ivan. Totally! You seem to be a true supporter of rugby and I like that!

      ivan.sport.18 - 2012-09-17 10:16

      @stirrer.bwa-ha-ha.stirrer...whatever. Jy en johnny.11.cups is regtig n skandvlek op enige sport forum, want julle sien die werklikheid as n sepie. Julle kan nie wag om van die ander spanne se foute te lees nie...dis tog so opwindend ne? Ek en die meeste ander Bul ondersteuners skaam ons dat julle selfs toegelaat word om rugby te kyk. Bestaan julle woordeskat regtig uit niks meer as ‘cups, rubbish, ban, idiots’ en die syfer 11 nie? Ons almal vermoed dit alreeds elk geval. @macziekpk....wat jy eintlik se is dat op Loftus glad nie en vir geen span ge-boo word nie? Ek was self n paar keer daar, en dit kan lekker rof word op Loftus. En nee, Nuweland se skare dink nie dis cool om te boo nie, want die meeste van hulle soos enige ander span se toeskouers is opgevoede ondersteuners. Ek was ook al daar, en niks erger as op Loftus het gebeur nie. Orals gaan dit maar dieselfde. Jy noem ook dat die anti-Bull sentiment baie sterk is. Al wat ek vir jou daarop kan se is ‘vice versa’. Die Bulle bly my span, maar ek is n sportliefhebber en dus kyk ek objektief na beide kante. Die feit dat julle so teen veral WP gekant is wys seker maar dat julle n diepgewortelde haat het, en dus nie in staat is om billike kommentaar te lewer nie. Ons is almal volwasse mense...ek neem aan julle is...so kom ons tree dan ook as volwassenes op en staak die eendimensionele en oppervlakkige kommentaar. Die Bulle was nog altyd n trotse unie, maar mense soos julle breek die respek totaal af.

      stirrer.stirrer - 2012-09-17 11:23

      @Amanda - The fake "stirrer.stirrer.5" with the small tottie syndrome is the Canadian Dr Death who takes childish pleasure in stealing other people's profiles and insulting everyone, even his fellow Bull supporters. A psychologist will have a field day with him. I think he suffers from a rare mixture of microencephaly, microtottie, dementia, schizophrenia, delusion, depression, drug abuse and alcoholism. Apart from that he is a coward, wife beater and chronic wanker, but that's not part of the disease, it's just his personality.

      Amanda - 2012-09-17 14:36

      Real stirrer, I am inclined to agree with you. My Question i, why are people like him, blou, and the likes allowed to comment in the first place. Everybody is allowed to express their opinion. But, clearly they can't even do that. The things they do is hardly an opinion, more like school type things. I Am willing to bet they still cry like a kid, when they don't get what they want. "But Mommy, I Want to watch the rugby and make fun of everybody I see around me." If these guys aren't in fact kids, like most of us think, they are the kind of people that makes any country embarrassed. Maybe it is just me, but I see no point in being the way they are.

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-17 19:43

      Just to let you know Stirrer.stirrer5 is actually the real stirrer on here, not this other WP idiot. And Amanda, you think 11 inches is small? Well I guess you also don't think 11 years is a long time. Shamepies

  • paul.ramncwana - 2012-09-17 06:16

    AC team talk at half-time if we can't win the rugby at least let us win the fight!

  • charmaine.wolmarans.1 - 2012-09-17 07:31

    Wonder wie is die hooligans op die kommentaar nou. Dit is julle wat so aangaan oor wp. Wys n unie se spelers wat nogi baklei het ni. Dit het gebeur so kom oor dit. Hoeveel van julle kamstige skoon spanne bestaan nie uit eks wp spelers ni. Get a life. GO PROVINCE !!!!

  • shaheem.galant - 2012-09-17 07:50

    Were is Scalk Burger nd when will he bck ?

      macziekpk - 2012-09-17 09:36

      You mean the eye gouger?

      Stormkaap - 2012-09-17 12:22

      @ m I'll told him to gouge your brain out next time , but there was no brain..

  • claude.felbert - 2012-09-17 07:51

    Neither Sinclair or Holmes should be playing for WP again but the provocation should be investigated as well as no action is taken on those who provoke!

      macziekpk - 2012-09-17 09:37

      I must say, legally, if someone slaps you or punches you, you are allowed to punch or slap back equal to what they did to you without charges being pressed. I feel it is only right players are allowed an eye for an eye approach

  • blou.johnny - 2012-09-17 08:22

    ...Cape Town thugs...! ...hooligans...!. ...brainlesss idiots...! ..rubbish...!

  • stephen.axtell.7 - 2012-09-17 08:38

    I always have a huge laugh at these knuckle dragging, sloping forehead loser Bull supporters. You losers have no leg to stand on. Bees Roux anyone

      alfred.neuman.988 - 2012-09-17 09:27

      When Dewald Potgieter ran on for his 50th game he was booed by the WP supporters. What's wrong with these people? I don't support the Bulls but I can respect a person who goes out there week in and week out and puts his body on the line to give us entertainment. It's a game people. Just a game. Not a war.

      macziekpk - 2012-09-17 09:37

      Ban these WP players for life!!

      macziekpk - 2012-09-17 10:09

      Knuckle dragging sloping forehead loser Bulls (with 3 super trophies) As opposed to toothless, interbreeding, child molesting, tik assimilating, Autumn Harvest drinking, fairy capital of the world Stormer supporters. (ZERO super trophies) 11 yr and 17 yr cupless. I'll take being a knuckle dragging sloping forehead loser over you lot ANY TIME. After being to Cape Town on several occasions and Pretoria too, there is no doubt in my mind, Pretoria is a much nicer place. No highfalutin, self absorbed, pretentious, fairy-friendly, left wing mountain people there. No booing at Loftus. Especially when someone is running out for their 50th cap. Tactless, disgraceful animals in the Western Cape.

  • martin.holder.96 - 2012-09-17 08:43

    What a disgrace! It does not matter where the player originate from they are coached and selected by Province.

  • mjvanvuuren1 - 2012-09-17 08:50

    What do you expect? With a captain like Deon Fourie, you'll always have a discipline problem in the team! You need to be disciplined to lead a team and unfortunately Deon lacks that. He's always the first to push and shove and sneer at the opposition, and the constant arguing with the ref ...... what an irritation! Unfortunately for WP, having a "Fox-terrier" leading them, resulted in being bit in the bum! Lol!

  • tim.kilpin - 2012-09-17 09:04

    Thge way Griquas are playing I can see another loss coming up and it is certain that their two loosies will be suspended

  • Ashley - 2012-09-17 09:09

    Ai...How i wish that one day we will all talk rugby, and not have a go at each other...BUT...i can but dream

      macziekpk - 2012-09-17 09:37

      WP should be forced to play rugby in front of empty stands and no TV rights!!!

      Amanda - 2012-09-17 14:40

      Ashley Most people do. It is just people like this Small Mac, blou.smalljohn and a few others that can't do it for some odd reason. They don't seem to care about rugby at all or know much about it. All they want is to make themselves feel better in front of a computer. Sad, sad life if you ask me. If most people would just not reply to them, eventually they would just go away.

      macziekpk - 2012-09-17 17:43

      Actually when you show people they are wrong, like blaming Kirchner for our loss for errors you cannot attribute to him, then the idiots start with name calling and fighting. It's a two way street this bickering, and frankly it all begins with the WP idiots.

  • Ashley - 2012-09-17 09:09

    Ai...how i wish just for one day, that we will all talk rugby and leave the name calling, province bashing, etc...but i can but dream

  • riaan.niemand - 2012-09-17 09:34

    The sharks deserved every punch that came their way- they played negative rugby and the yellow card of jean deysel shows that- with a kiwi coaching them you can expect them to play typical sean fitspatrick rugby. Province is not known as a team that play like they played on the weekend so bad on you sharks for playing a negative game!

      macziekpk - 2012-09-17 09:38

      Hahahahahahahahaha what an excuse. The Sharks are the 2nd greatest union ever.

  • denis.dendrinos - 2012-09-17 10:18

    Really news24? And you removed my main comment because.......? Which of your sensitivities did it offend? I did not insult anyone, I did not swear, I wasn;t racist. I simply said the red cards would sting more because of the loss, said the lions gonna lose come Saturday and commented on how wet the field was. OMW! bad Denis! Bad!

      andre.terblanche.5 - 2012-09-17 10:46

      Denis verander news24 die comments of hoe werk dit?

  • heidi.hill.167 - 2012-09-17 11:57

    At least they still have their mountain !!!!!

  • anton.vonvielig - 2012-09-17 13:32

    weepieeeee jou lekka vuilgat chokeeers!!!!! check al die poofter supporters, wanneer hulle ouens soos rubbish optree so daai rubbish etsebet is hulle bekke stil, maar as n' bul appels swaai dan kerm hulle soos n' loopstraat prozzie wat nie haar betaling gekry het nie

      Amanda - 2012-09-17 14:43

      Got something on your shoulder? Calling other people rubbish is not the best way forward, did your mommy teach you anything? Remember these wise words, what comes around, goes around.

  • marcus.bidoli - 2012-09-17 14:13

    Nice jaw glass Deysel ...looking for trouble and when you get it you sit hard on your ass..lucky for you that the ref saved your bacon - that Canadian had your number

  • freiners1 - 2012-09-17 15:31

    Ek was geskok om te sien hoe die WP hulle gedra. Die geslaan op die veld en spelers wat net mooi niks aan hulle gedoen het nie. Is dit nou die trant waarmee hulle gaan speel, het altyd nog agtig gehad vir WP maar na hierdie wedstryd kan hulle gerus die wat rooi kaarte gekry het skors vir lewe uit rugby. Dit is rugby wat ons speel en nie 'n boks geveg nie. Miskien help "Anger Management" klasse vir hulle - of dalk nie. Ek is geneig om saam met vorige comments saam te stem dalk is hulle vroue slaners by die huis ook!!

  • John - 2012-09-17 16:42

    blame the ref the sharks were like watching samo .

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