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Six-team Currie Cup for 2012

2011-06-26 14:41

Rudolph Lake

Johannesburg - Only the country's six best teams will contest next year's Currie Cup Premier Division, while the remaining eight unions will slug it out in the First Division.

This decision was already taken last year by the president's council of the South African Rygby Union (SARU). The decision is still valid, even though the rugby governing body's structures have changed in the meantime.

SARU president Oregan Hoskins has confirmed to Rapport that the provincial unions' presidents had already last year agreed to change the format of the Currie Cup Premier Division for 2012 from eight to six teams.

Rapport did report this at the time.

This decision has been made because next year's Super Rugby competition only concludes in August, as the competition will break for local Springbok Test matches in June and the Tri-Nations - which include nine Tests. The same will apply for 2013 and 2014.

After the first season of the six-team Currie Cup, the team finishing last in the Premier Division will play the winner of the First Division in a promotion-relegation match-up every year.

In an attempt to ensure that rugby won't suffer amongst the First Division teams, SARU has promised to assist them financially in the future.

Meanwhile, the Eastern Province Kings' participation in the Super Rugby competition from 2013 onwards remain a big problem area for SARU.

SARU hoped that South Africa would be able to field a sixth team in Super Rugby from 2013, but it does not appear to be an option anymore.

According to reliable sources, SARU is now looking at trying to include the sixth South African franchise in one of the Northern Hemisphere's competitions.

But South Africa's five current Super Rugby teams are by no means assured of their place in the competition. If the Kings insist on a place in the competition from 2013, the Cheetahs and Lions could lose their Super-status, or they could be forced - like in the past when they played as the Cats - to play as one team.

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Comments
  • Frisbee - 2011-06-26 14:50

    The Cats won't happen. The South African team who finished last in 2012 is out of here. It'll probably be the Cheetahs, who don't deserve to be given the boot. What a shame for South African rugby.

      Snoek - 2011-06-26 16:05

      I can’t wait to see Cheeky and the Kings play in the S15. 90-0, 100-0 110-0?

      PCDP - 2011-06-27 08:19

      @ paddy... just another idiot.

  • G8 - 2011-06-26 15:54

    I have a feeling that, like it or not, the Currie Cup is going to be absorbed into the Super Rugby Series pretty much along the lines of the current conference system. It's almost unavoidable with the amount of Rugby being played and players being exposed to rapid burnout.

      Seaview - 2011-06-26 16:12

      I agree. It has to happen to reduce the amount of rugby that is required from our top players

  • Mike Webber - 2011-06-26 15:57

    THIS IS THE WORST DECISION THAT SARU HAS MADE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS !!! Absolute crap !!! Let's limit the exposure of more teams to 1st class domestic rugby. ABSOLUTE RUBBISH SARU, ANOTHER CRAP DECISION !!!

      Chris - 2011-06-27 07:15

      Let's be honest. How many players from the bottom two or three teams make it into the Bok team, or even the Super teams? So we have to weigh up the positives against the negatives: How much does a team learn when they get a hiding from a top franchise? Could they not have gained more from a closer contest in the first division? And how much is gained by the team dishing out the hiding? Not much, if you ask me. Ask any competitive sportsperson, and he or she will tell you that they prefer a decent match, not a waste of time far inferior opponent. Also consider the player fatigue factor of extra-long seasons. At least this format will curb that somewhat. The less risk there is of a top player getting injured in insignificant and academical matches, the better. Don't get me wrong - I am also worried that the extended Super season might eventually spell the end for the Currie Cup. But I do think that this format might provide a lifeline.

      DeonL - 2011-06-27 08:30

      We must also remember that the curry cub will only then start in August, if we keep 8 teams, the final might be only in late November or December or the teams might play only 1 game against each other and not the customary 2 games.

  • mike - 2011-06-26 16:33

    The only way to stop this is if we vote with bums in seats as it were. How about we boycott Super rugby next year in favour of the CC to finally send a message to SARU that we want the CC looked after more then Super Rugby!

  • JJRR - 2011-06-26 16:47

    So Bulle, Lions, Griekwas, Cheethas ennnnnnn ennnnnn . Hell kan nie aan nog aan n super team dink nie!!!!

      BigD - 2011-06-26 18:02

      Ha ha ha ha, very funny JJRR.

  • Macho Mike - 2011-06-26 17:01

    Well Lions, get used to playing in the First Division boetties. Enjoy your LAST season in the top flight. You are the weekest link - Totsiens.

  • Johann - 2011-06-26 17:18

    How can Kings"insist" on a spot in Super competition??!! Everything in every Spere in life is based on merit WTF!!??

      Snoek - 2011-06-26 17:54

      I agree Johann, the Kings are not even playing CC quality rugby. Now they want to play Super rugby. Cheeky will soon learn that politics won't win you the CC or the S15.

  • Pring1 - 2011-06-26 17:42

    This is going to be very interesting, just a a matter of time which will lead to great compettition, i hope EP kings make it to the Super 15, they have really worked hard to get where they are!

      Snoek - 2011-06-26 17:56

      Sarcastic or stupid?

      Marcell - 2011-06-26 23:54

      Where is that?

  • BigD - 2011-06-26 18:01

    THis decision is a sad day for SA rugby. It looks like only big money speaks in SA rugby now. Maybe the whole structure in SA rugby needs to change at management level, the players are not been given a good deal, maybe a swift kick in pants of management will get the players a better deal. If we dont raise the level of our minor sides the top will eventually crumble. Maybe a solution would be 7 teams in each section.

  • Cuzin - 2011-06-26 19:48

    I would like to see 8 teams in the premier divsion of Currie Cup... but it must be strength vs strength. There is always gonna be the 'Big Five' with Griekwas; at this stage, a sure 6th spot. That leaves 2 more spots. I feel that EP & another team (to be decided) should take those spots. The last 2 mentioned teams do not necessarily have the finances, so what SARU should do (finacialy) is lure some of our overseas players to join these teams. Just think of Joe v Niekerk, Joe Pietersen, Schalk Brits, Ernst Joubert, Brian Mujati (to mention a few) not to mention Ruan Pienaar, Frans Steyn, BJ Botha, Johann Muller and guys about to leave like Fourie Du Preez, Bakkies Botha, Danie Rossouw, Guthro Steenkamp & Gary Botha. Imagine these guys (and many more not mentioned) incorperated into 2 or 3 of the last mentioned teams. Then we would have strength vs strength. Amen.

      Scaramouche - 2011-06-26 20:19

      If EP can't beat Griekwas for a placement in the CC, how on earth would they be able to play Superrugby?

      Cuzin - 2011-06-26 22:25

      @Scaramouche... I'm not sure if you support my statement, but this about the CC and not Superrugby.

  • StBad - 2011-06-26 20:25

    Luke must be crapping himself...

  • TylerDurton - 2011-06-26 22:57

    How about the top SA team in the Currie Cup replaces the bottom SA team in the Super 15 every year. Relegation is a good system. It creates urgency when there is something to loose and makes for a better showpiece. The Eastern Kings should by no means be 'assured' a place in the Super 15. They need to earn it dammit!

      Cuzin - 2011-06-26 23:49

      I don't understand the first part of your comment. Let's take 2010 CC results; you say the Sharks (2010 CC champs) should replace the Lions (bottom of S14 2010)?? WTF. The Sharks are already in the S15. How can they 'replace' the Lions??? Don't you mean the winner of the CC second division should replace the wooden spoon team of the S15??

      Aluwani none - 2011-06-27 10:19

      Obviously he doesn’t mean that, but what TylerDurton is trying to say is that the top 5 teams on the currie cup should qualify for S15 if we were to use last year is log it would mean that the lions and the cheetahs keep their S15 status since they were both in the top 5 but if it happens that Griquas or EP kings ( by a miracle) break into the top 5 then they should qualify to play for S15. In all honesty this system of the lions always at the bottom of S15 every year(with the exception of this year) and not getting relegated is foul system, How can a team fail to grow in more than ten years!!

  • hardloop - 2011-06-26 23:27

    I think we should have a shift to using the currie cup as a qualification to super rugby. Essentially currie cup morphs into the super rugby conference system. It's time we accepted that currie cup is dying and has been for fifteen years despite what everyone says. It's in decline as Super Rugby is, well, super. This way the EC Kings have a chance of qualifying (as well as the Griquas) in a fair non-political manner. Though with the new season ending in August it would suck as the currie cup sides won't have their best players available when fighting a relegation or qualification battle....hmmm, i think SARU done f*cked up. Again.

  • jasson - 2011-06-27 01:40

    watch the stommers

      jasson - 2011-06-27 01:41

      forget about the rest

  • Riaan - 2011-06-27 05:44

    The Eastern Province Kings will amount to nothing in the Super 15 as they will be bottom of the log forever. There is more going on behind the scenes as we think. I am sure that Hoskins and the Twatsons are in cahoots to promote this weak team. I was wondering why Puke Twatson was moving over to the Kings. So the backstabbing just does not stop.

      Marais3604 - 2011-06-27 16:20

      Maybe you must get your facts right before making accusations like this. Players moved to the EP Kings because of promises (like 2013) that were made to them. How do you think they feel now and how it will affect their rugby careers? "The Office" concentrate to much on Super Rugby and less on our own provincial competition wich will in the end die a silent death. And by the way: do you think the Leopards (and 1 or 2 others in the Curriecup) is better than the EP Kings? Give them at least the benefit of the doubt!

      Jean-Roux - 2011-07-05 11:35

      We as EP Kings can't do worse than the Lions, and think of the ammount of players that will move to EP to play Super 15! ! !

  • PCDP - 2011-06-27 08:15

    I think before the EP Kings insist on playing Super rugby let them first play a season or two against the top teams in the country. If they shape in the game then I'll say let them play super rugby...!! Otherwise they will just be the laughing stock of the game!

  • Gazza69 - 2011-06-27 10:27

    The Super XV should be scrapped. Bring back the Super 12 and leave the Currie Cup at 8 teams.......

  • Aluwani none - 2011-06-27 10:27

    If the EP kings(which I don’t support) were to be given a spot it could result in two situation 1. They will replace the rebels & lions as the whipping boys of S15 2. It could lure good players from other conferences to join EP kings and this could result with EP kings overtaking the cheetahs and the lions Either way we will never know since the EP kings won’t be plying S15 rugby in the next 3-4 years!! But I still insist that Currie cup should be used as qualifications log, top 5 qualify for S15!!!

  • kameeldoring - 2011-06-27 14:59

    SA rugby verander elke jaar die setup, kan julle nie iets uitwerk en daar by hou nie. S15 is inelkgeval te lank en baie swak uit een gesit, moes n poephol gewees het wat dit uit gedink het! Die Currie Cup moet met meer respek behandel word as wat dit tans die geval is, en die CC is die hardklop van SA rugby!

  • BRAKKENJAN STORMER - 2011-06-27 15:20

    SARU is besig om nes die anc te word.Alles wat hulle probeer of doen is n'fokop.Hier kom groot kak.

      Damien - 2011-06-27 22:57

      SARU I believe your decision too reduce the Currie Cup from 8 to 6 teams for next season will come back and bite you in the ASS, people will be sick and tired of seeing the top 5 playing against one another Thanks too Super Rugby ! Expand Expand Expand, and allow the smaller unions too draft in some young talent that's being wasted at the Franchises. Allowing only 6 teams too compete will mean an even greater exodus of players too the Northern Hemisphere and god forbid our Southern Hemisphere rivals, I for one do not wish to see More Botha's or Fouries in the English side, Even more so when lets say an Mvovo or a Chiliboy Ralepelle starts playing for one of the four home unions !!! wouldn't that just sum up your inability too the develop and look after our talented youngsters !

  • Erndina - 2012-02-11 08:26

    Hoekom word daar nie meer vrienskaplike wedstryde in die Currie Cup reeks op TV Supersport aan ons gewys nie. Talle sokker wedstryde word gewys maar nie ons vrienskaplike wedstryde nie.Mense word wakker Soos ons taal word ons Sport Kultuur ook Stelselmatig dood gesmoor. Mike van Ballito

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