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Sharks not falling for WP talk

2012-10-23 22:28

Cape Town - Sharks coach John Plumtree says they won't fall into the "trap" set by Western Province who labelled them as favourites for the Currie Cup final at Kings Park on Saturday.

"That's a bunch of nonsense," he told the Beeld website, referring to WP coach Allister Coetzee's claims that the Sharks will start as overwhelming favourites.

"We won't fall far it. I know what he (Coetzee) is trying to achieve. He wants to put all the pressure on us and make it look like we almost can't lose. So I don't buy that one. They just want to make us too assured and then catch us cold."

The men from Cape Town have been severely depleted by injuries and will start the final without several of their stars like Schalk Burger, Jean de Villiers, Andries Bekker, Tiaan Liebenberg, Siya Kolisi, Rynhardt Elstadt and Nick Koster.

But Plumtree feels there remains enough quality for WP to walk away victorious.

"They have more than enough guys with X-factor like Gio Aplon and Bryan Habana - who can win the game on their own if you give them half a chance.

"They also have a solid pack of forwards who can provide enough opportunities for those X-factor guys. So I don't view us as the favourites," said Plumtree.

The clash at Kings Park kicks off at 17:00 on Saturday.

Sport24

Comments
  • lean.sadie - 2012-10-23 22:56

    Maybe, maybe not. Fact Is most people do see sharks as favorites. Like it or not, that is the way it is.

      tertius.devereaux.1 - 2012-10-24 07:24

      Ja di favorites gaan di chokers wen

  • richard.jeremy.79 - 2012-10-23 23:03

    Plumtree the Sharks are favourites mate.You wanna know why?Because on current form you guys have been the best team in South Africa for best part of the entire year up until now.Look how well you've done topping the CC Table,dismantling the Bulls 20-3 and having played in the Super Rugby final despite all that travelling.Hats of to you sir and your Sharks team its been a pleasure watching you play at times. Province has the ability to upset the apple cart but it won't be easy and it would take a helluvah big team effort to pull this one through.

      SharonLKitching - 2012-10-24 06:23

      Spoken like a true Gentleman.

      P.J. - 2012-10-24 08:09

      Dis goed om te sien iemand kan so af en toe sin praat op hierdie forum. Die res het niks beter om te doen as om k#k te praat en mekaar te beledig nie, en dan kom die meeste nog van ouens af wie se spanne Saterdag die finaal op die TV gaan moet kyk!

  • Ty Lamont - 2012-10-23 23:04

    its as if Plum is looking for excuses already. Sharks must starve Wp of possession just like they did with the Bulls. also to keep the discipline is the key. i dont see any reason for Sharks to lose. its basically the Sharks game to lose!

  • Nighthawk.Wild - 2012-10-23 23:29

    Favourites or not, the best team of the day will win . whether it is WP or Sharks

      TravieGrif - 2012-10-24 06:53

      Totally correct, so all the talk is meaningless. Needs to be put into action on Saturday afternoon!

      bakkies.botha.39 - 2012-10-24 07:00

      That will be the Sharks!!!

      jaco.groenewald.731 - 2012-10-24 07:15

      Hey Trav. While you can never predict a final, I do think the Sharks have the edge here, mentally as well. See Plums is quite clever here, same last week against the Bulls. He doesn’t get involved in the media hype and just said what needs to be said! Well done Plums!!! And I will go that far to tip the Sharks by 5!

      bakkies.botha.39 - 2012-10-24 07:39

      Dankie Jaco, sien jy is alweer besig om gat te kruip, maar dis darm beter as om vir WP te skree!!!

  • gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-24 04:50

    Protocol media talk before big games. Plums has been here before, Sharks attention will be on their own game and preparation, not with any favourite tags.

      lean.sadie - 2012-10-24 04:59

      So it should be. Can't wait, should be a good game as long as there is not too much rain.

      gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-24 05:09

      Incredible buildup again, going to be a fantastic final. A dry game would be great to see the best of both teams skills.

  • a.j.bosch - 2012-10-24 06:11

    \trap set by Western Province\ LOL. How did Plumtree know Houwing covertly supports WP? Was it that obvious when Houwing already had the \Sharks are favourites\ flags flying by Sunday morning? :)

  • nico.eksteen.7 - 2012-10-24 06:20

    Can the guppies PROVINCE!!!

  • chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-10-24 06:22

    Well, it's a pity they do not underestimate the WP like all their pink supporters in Tshwane.

      nico.eksteen.7 - 2012-10-24 06:40

      Could be some of those funny okes from the cape with the gaps in the teeth that also cheer for the AB's. I get the feeling that blou bollie and kaptein spies x3 may be some of them.

      tertius.devereaux.1 - 2012-10-24 07:18

      Dus ondersteuners soos jule wat laat ondersteuners soos ons niks hou van daai CHOKERS cupless donkies nie

      chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-10-24 07:28

      Tertius, het jy al jou Sharks sticker op jou pink rok geplak?

  • Louise Whittingstall Barnard - 2012-10-24 06:46

    Mr PLumtree, if you finish top of the log and get a home final and play a team who barely made the semi final, then you are most def the favourites!!! according to your supporters WP might aswell stay home, cos the sharks have got this!!!! I support WP but dont expect christmas to come again as the Lion coach pointed out!!! Deal with pressure!!! Its all on you!!

  • Louise Whittingstall Barnard - 2012-10-24 06:48

    LOL Plumtree is trying to avoid the chokers label if they lose!!!! you are the favourites deal with it!

      sponge.plank - 2012-10-24 10:14

      How are Sharks chokers if they lose? We won the cup 2 years ago and 2 years before that. Look up your definition of chokers again lady!

  • Louise Whittingstall Barnard - 2012-10-24 06:51

    Wow these shark supporters really talk the talk hey!!!! Insulting the characters of us capetonians is not going to help the sharks win! talking that way about people just shows your weak character!!!!

      david.s.duncan.1 - 2012-10-24 08:57

      Oh yes I remember you Louise. Remember all the trash you talked about during the Super 15? The Stormers/WP fans have small memories, don't seem to remember how arrogant and obnoxious they were. Plumtree is not making excuses, he's simply returning the mind games. All the best for Saturday, WP are more than capable of winning. Enjoy the game

      maria.l.dewar - 2012-10-24 10:40

      Sorry to be so obtuse, but I have not seen one rude remark from the SHarks supporters! Just because we are not fooled by your team's mind games does not make us arrogant! And while we are on the subject of arrogance, maybe someone who has the time should bring out all those comments from Stormers supporters during S15, as this lady's memory is a little short!

  • bakkies.botha.39 - 2012-10-24 06:51

    Mooi so ou Johan Pruimboom!!!!

  • tertius.devereaux.1 - 2012-10-24 07:12

    Ek dink WP rugby moet geskuif word na cartoon channel...ai maar wat van di arme kinders nou weer?

      chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-10-24 07:30

      Ek sien die kanale het nou al erg verander. Maar DSTv weet nie lekker waar om die Blou Bulle in te pas nie. So nou wys hulle die Blou Bulle sommer op beide Fashion TV en History Channel.

      tertius.devereaux.1 - 2012-10-24 10:27

      Mans genoeg om pienk te dra vi kanker

      melt.esterhuizen - 2012-10-24 10:38

      @ Terius, Sjoe nou het chrisin jou darem lekker bloedneus gegee!!!Hoekom huil party Bulle so oor die verlies van Bakkies, Fourie, Matfield? Die manne het jare vir die Bulle gespeel seer sekerlik moes daar tog geweet het hulle gaan een of ander tyd uittree, waar is die opvolgplan dan? Die Bulle het die afgelope 5 jaar gemiddeld 7 spelers gekoop en steeds huil hulle oor hul verlies? Die WP het ook groot name verloor en baie beserings maar wat maak hulle? Vervang die een goeie een met n vl. Kyk maar na Kolosi, Etsebeth, Elstadt en ander. Jde V se opvolger speel reeds die velde aan die brand en niemand kla oor sy afwesigheid in die finaal nie? Natuurlik gaan die Bulle se ja maar hulle is nie n Bakkies en Matfield nie. Ek glo nie die twee here het dieselfde toekenning as individu soos SB behaal nie. Daar is uitstekende spelers in die Blou span hoekom hulle nie perform nie, sal net die afrigter weet. Kyk na Griekwas! Wat sou daardie afrigter met talent soos die Bulle gedoen het?

      tertius.devereaux.1 - 2012-10-24 10:56

      Ek dink wp moet op history channel speel...want hule is besig om geskiedenis te maak...na saterdag is dit 12jaar! Hitler moet hule afrig!

      melt.esterhuizen - 2012-10-24 11:07

      @Tertius, Maat pienk was nooit n faktor gewees met die keuse van die trui nie....Sjoe is jou kennis van jou span so swak? So tussen jou en my steek jou kersie in die donker wereld op en gaan kyk wat het spelers soos SB en J de D jare terug en steeds vir kanker gedoen.

  • Jack Randall - 2012-10-24 07:34

    Geagte Mr. Plumtree, lek gou jou lippe en proe die k*k wat jy praat. WP4life

  • bakkies.botha.39 - 2012-10-24 07:37

    WP is so bly hul is weer in n FINAL hul het JURIE ELS gekry met HOE SE MENS DANKIE NA SOVEEL JARE te sing voor die game!!!

      nico.eksteen.7 - 2012-10-24 07:45

      2010? Lyk my jou rugbykennis is maar power

      bakkies.botha.39 - 2012-10-24 07:52

      Verloor!!!! gechoke, verstik env

      Louise Whittingstall Barnard - 2012-10-24 07:55

      Bakkies.Botha is that the best you got? lame ass comment man!!!

      chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-10-24 07:57

      En die Bulls het hulle so doodgeskrik dat hulle hierdie jaar weer 'n semi gemaak het (net-net), dat hulle toe sommer ophou rugby speel en begin boks.

      chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-10-24 08:23

      En wat van die ref? Terwyl jy nou so verskonings maak, hoekom blameer jy nie sommer die ref, soos 'n goie Blou Bul ondersteuner nie? Veronderstelde ervaring laas naweek in die Blou Bul span: Morne Steyn, Potgieter x2, Nik-naks, Hougaard, Juandre Kruger, Flip van der Merwe etc. Daai verskoning van 'n onervare span gaan nie werk nie. Hoeveel legendes was daar in die Sharks en WP spanne?

      ruan.vanniekerk.754 - 2012-10-24 08:24

      Gaaaaaaaaap!!!! Dis nou flouer as n teesakkie in de see!

  • megan.raasch.1 - 2012-10-24 07:58

    Black and White, nothing else matters

      tertius.devereaux.1 - 2012-10-24 11:25

      Yes jy hou van jou whiskey

  • P.J. - 2012-10-24 08:17

    What an idiot! Natuurlik is die Sharks die favourites. Dis nie 'n "mind game" nie jou poephol, dis 'n feit!

  • brian.matthee - 2012-10-24 08:30

    Well done to @richard.jeremy for focussing on rugby and not throwing insults at other particpants on the forum or to any of the 2 sides that will be contesting the final. Everyone is excited about the final - especially if one of the teams you supported actually made the final. It is a great pity that we now have people slinging insults at the Referee, at the supporters of the opposition and worst of all at the players. Despite the fact that the Sharks might be the favourites they will still have to play extremely well to beat a Western Province team that have a lot to prove. As a Shark supporter I very aware of the fact that (and let me tell you most of us know that) we cannot simply pitch for the game and expect to be handed the Currie Cup. I am optimistic but very aware of the fact that our drive from Durban on Sunday might turn out to be very long if any Shark player, member of the coaching staff or management is complacent, lazy or over confident. Every single player will have to play at their best. Only then will we beat Western Province. I hope that the players behave better on the field than some of our commentators on this site! We are looking forward to an excellent game. We are black, we are white, we are dynamite!!! Sharks forever!!!

      steveroodt - 2012-10-24 08:35

      Damn Not Sat Yet .Go....Sharks

  • stompies.hattingh.5 - 2012-10-24 08:49

    Jip, die wiepie is desperaat!

  • Louise Whittingstall Barnard - 2012-10-24 09:44

    David S Duncan.... talking smack about being the best team, and you gonna win etc etc is part and parcel of rugby culture but getting personal about a group of people is not right! Keep the comments game related and don't sling personal insults, thats all I am saying!! And yes I get happy and talk smack when we do good, don't we all?I am a proud WP and STORMERS fan but I think the Sharks are in better form right now!

      brian.matthee - 2012-10-24 10:28

      Now that is exactly what I am talking about.

  • hans.himmler.7 - 2012-10-24 09:57

    WP will make their play. We will make our play. HAVOC will be CREATED. There's nothing more to it. BLACK.WHITE.DYNAMITE

  • allen.visser - 2012-10-24 10:15

    It would be great to see the Stormers knock the Sharks off their pedestal. Holding thumbs.....

  • thethird.wors - 2012-10-24 11:00

    I'm a Province supporter but I must admit it will be very difficult to beat this quality Sharks team. That's not playing "mind games". . . that's just a fact.

  • cobus.groenewald.1 - 2012-10-24 21:09

    Plumtree is die mees uitgeslape afrigter in SA.

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