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'Don't write off WP's scrum'

2011-07-13 08:55

Hendrik Cronjé

Bloemfontein – Griquas will not underestimate the scrumming power of Western Province in spite of the scrumming lesson dished out to the Stormers in their recent Super Rugby semi-final against the Crusaders.

The Griquas camp is simply of the belief that the Stormers’ scrummagers had an off day against the Crusaders and that they will be out to put things right straight away in the Currie Cup.

Two of the players that will pack down in Griquas’ front row against Western Province at Newlands on Saturday – hooker Ryno Barnes and tighthead prop Lourens Adriaanse – played Super Rugby for the Cheetahs this year. And they know exactly what to expect against the Cape side.

“I think the Stormers have scrummed very well through the years. We certainly won’t underestimate WP in the wake of the Stormers’ scrumming performance against the Crusaders,” said Barnes.

Griquas worked particularly hard on their scrumming at training this week out of respect for WP’s scrummagers, who include fiery hooker Tiaan Liebenberg as well as props Brok Harris and Wicus Blaauw.

However, WP will struggle to get Griquas into reverse gear as the visitors can call on the experienced Barnes, Adriaanse and Steph Roberts.
Forwards coach Pote Human will also not allow the Griquas pack to take a beating.

“I think Lourens did well when he got game time for the Cheetahs (in this year’s Super Rugby tournament). We learned a lot from Os du Randt (Cheetahs scrum coach) and hope to utilise that knowledge on the field.”

Griquas will have to cope without scrumhalf Sarel Pretorius. He will know on Wednesday for how long he will be sidelined with his knee injury.

The Griquas team is: Riaan Viljoen, Richard Lawson, Wilmaure Louw, Barry Geel, Rocco Jansen, Monty Dumond, Shannon Rick, Jonathan Mokuena (capt), Davon Raubenheimer, Justin Downey, Martin Muller, Hendrik Roodt, Lourens Adriaanse, Ryno Barnes, Steph Roberts

Substitutes: Matt Dobson, Jean Botha, Frikkie Spies, Jaco Nepgen, Matt Rosslee, Earl Rose, Fabian Juries

Sport24

Comments
  • jk - 2011-07-13 09:00

    we will and have pride our set pieces, and will score from that to be victorious in the 2011 c\cup!!!

  • jk - 2011-07-13 09:05

    we got 5 very competative props, 2 good hookers.. no problem

      GILLBERT - 2011-07-13 09:17

      ja reg dis hoekom die stormers se scurm en vaste 5 lag lag die beste was van die suid afrikaanse spanne in die super ruby tournament ..... julle vaste 5 hang meer rond in die backline, dis hoekom die stormers verloor het teen die saders.... die stormers scrum blows.... brock harris kannie scrum om sy lewe te red nie, nie met skewe ruggie nie, en blauw is te min.... ek doen rate die stormers se hakkers wel. en met hulle slotte het die stormers 4 senters in plaas van 2

      jk - 2011-07-13 09:38

      gilbert- as jy reg onthou het ons die sharks 2 keer en bulle 2 keer goed opdraand die afgelope 2 jaar gegee, daars nie n skrum behalwe cheetas en crus(net laaste game) wat n match was nie. so, as hulle so rond hang dan doen ons bleddie goed om 2 de 2 jaar in n ry te eindig...

      GILLBERT - 2011-07-13 10:08

      as jy reg kan onthou het stormers se scrum n probleem die laaste 6 jaar..... hulle het gesuffer teen die sharks en bulls en cheetahs as dit gekom het by scrum time.... hulle forwards drop die backs partykeer want niemand behalwe vermeulen, louw en habana commit tot die losgemale, meeste van die tyd nie, behalwe as dit derby games is... dan ewe skielik lyk dit of hulle wil speel....hulle staan in die backline en kyk rugby.... vir my is dit coaching en niks anders nie

      GILLBERT - 2011-07-13 10:17

      en plus jy is seker die enigste ou wat trots is op daai 2de plek..... want ek kan nie onthou wiet tweede gekom 2 jaar terug nie

      jk - 2011-07-13 10:22

      jy weet presies wat ek bedoel gilbert. van 10de ple 8ste plek 6de plek tot finaal en semi, dis vooruitgan, c'mon

      GILLBERT - 2011-07-13 10:42

      haha ek weet hulle het. mar ook met hulp in dies. asem... ma sal n force wees vir foreseeable future

      jk - 2011-07-13 13:05

      marcell- miskien, maar ry die golf solank as jy kan, brok en kie het nie die reels gemaak nie. neill back en mcaw was en is net goed as die ref hull dit toelaat

  • Bulldozer - 2011-07-13 09:07

    Ou Wicus ''groen handjies'' Blaauw gaan skeit.

      WPBLIKSEM - 2011-07-13 09:24

      @Bulldozer- Please chief, the article is about WP and Griquas, can't you read?

      WPBLIKSEM - 2011-07-13 09:24

      @Bulldozer- Kan jy lees??

      Bulldozer - 2011-07-13 09:36

      Ek sien die ou BALSAK is terug. Welkom terug BALSAK.

      WPBLIKSEM - 2011-07-13 09:40

      Nee wat Bulldozer, jy lyk my wil ne he, mense moet positiewe kommentaar lewer nie. Wil jy he ek moet aangaan met my bekgevegte soos jy? Aanvaar dit Chief, ek gaan konstruktiewe en positiewe insette lewer op hierdie blog. My plan is om positief te bly oor die volgende 20-30 jaar... Koebaai!!!!!!

      Bulldozer - 2011-07-13 09:45

      O.k. jammer BALSAK. Ek gaan ook nice wees van nou af. Wicus is kookwater. (Groen handjies en al)

      WPBLIKSEM - 2011-07-13 09:51

      @Bulldozer- ek bedoel nie, ons moet swak spel of spelers prys nie. Wicus en Brock het GEBARS in die SEMI teen die Crusaders en ek is 'n WP ondersteuner wat dit erken. Ek glo dit is een van ons swak plekke, die vraag is hoe kan ons dit verbeter? Ek dink Kitshoff en Fransie Malherbe moet 'n kans gegee word....

      Marcell - 2011-07-13 12:54

      Die beamptes beskerm swak skrummers. Die dat dit lyk asof Brok en Groen Handjies goed is.

  • Chronoman - 2011-07-13 09:07

    Griekwas!!!!

  • BokBru - 2011-07-13 09:08

    Should be a good battle up front. I don't think the WP scrum will perform as badly as against the Crusaders. That was a once off for sure.

      jk - 2011-07-13 09:11

      agreed bokbru, at last someone with knowledge..!

  • jk - 2011-07-13 09:09

    apart from one game they didnt skeit seun, in fact, bulls, sharks struggled against groen handjies...??jou chirps maak nie sin nie doze, you losing the plot boetie??

      Bulldozer - 2011-07-13 09:11

      Commenting in the wrong place is losing the plot.

      jk - 2011-07-13 09:16

      still got to you..

      Whutan - 2011-07-13 09:21

      ..ouch...

      WPBLIKSEM - 2011-07-13 09:22

      @Bulldozer- Here we are discussing WP rugby, please back off!!!!!

      The_Fox - 2011-07-13 12:14

      Hahaha, nice on JK.

  • WPBLIKSEM - 2011-07-13 09:20

    We need to sort out the issue of PROPS that is a REALITY, they are just not good enough. Especially Harris and Blaauw, let's see what Kitshoff and Fransie Malherbe can do. Going to be a GOOD game. WP by 10+

      jk - 2011-07-13 09:29

      its been a kopseer for a while, cj didnt live up to his name, rooikop en malherbe an jc, we must hold on to them. liked the look and build of the bulls props this year, think they did well.

      WPBLIKSEM - 2011-07-13 09:33

      @jk - I agree...

      BokBru - 2011-07-13 09:37

      I totally agree with you. If you go on this year's Super Rugby then I do not see any good props in South Africa at the moment. But this is the CC and we will see a different animal emerge.

      Kaapie - 2011-07-13 09:43

      Cant agree more.. This is an area where WP is weak. Proudfoot needs to earn his salary

      jk - 2011-07-13 09:48

      i think proudfoot did very well with the army hes got. spoke to johan v wyk from the wp rugby institute a while ago and he say that hes got no really good forwards (props) this year, not something that promising i suppose

  • StBad - 2011-07-13 09:35

    Not a bad looking side, especially with Fabian Juries and (dare I say it) Rose on the bench

  • Vusi9 - 2011-07-13 09:54

    How can you write something off that doesn't exist?

      Rugby Rocks - 2011-07-13 11:20

      Vusi9 : I agree , thats why you can't write the bulls off as a CHAMP team , that does not exist

      Vusi9 - 2011-07-13 11:42

      Who said anything about the Bulls? I thought we were talking about province.

  • Oukoos - 2011-07-13 13:16

    Daar is ten minste hoop vir ons in die vorm van die 19 jarige seun - Steven Kitshoff. Hier is 'n yster in wording. Maar soos ek my provinsie se bestuur ken, gaan hulle hom oor twee Bulls toe laat gaan om vir John Smit te jontrakteer

      jk - 2011-07-13 13:37

      hopelik kan ons aanhang aan die jonges oukoos

      The_Fox - 2011-07-13 13:41

      Sad but true.

  • Kleinboet - 2011-07-13 23:09

    WP het goed gedoen in die Super 15 met sy bestaande voorrye en sal ook in die Curriebekerkompetisie sy man staan. Een afdag teen die Crusaders is miskien net wat hulle nodig gehad het om met mening terug te kom! Hoop die WP agtal sal van die begin af as 'n hegte eenheid funksioneer in die skrums. Nogtans, ons kan doen met nog stutte van formaat in die WP ~ net om die manne in die saal eerlik te hou!

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