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Coetzee: Life after Sadie, JJ

2011-09-08 22:23

Cape Town - Western Province coach Allister Coetzee believes they will be be able to overcome the loss of two of their stars, Johann Sadie and JJ Engelbrecht to their Northern rivals, the Blue Bulls.

The duo will join the Pretoria-based outfit after this year's Currie Cup.

Sadie and Engelbrecht have been two star performers in an exciting Western Province backline in this year's Currie Cup, and have played a big part in catapulting Province to second spot on the Currie Cup standings.

Their departure up north received hefty criticism in cape rugby circles - where journalists and fans alike - have expressed their concerns over the union's inability to hold onto their promising young players.

However, Coetzee is adament that there is hope and that the loss of the duo won't have a negative effect on Western Province.

"It's definitely not nice losing those players, but luckily there's never a shortage of good players in the Cape. Especially not backline players," Coetzee told Die Burger newspaper.

And his hopes are pinned on a few young stars in WP's junior teams.

The 19-year Blitzbok, Tshotsho Mbovane, who currently plays wing for the WP under-21 side is the real deal, according to Coetzee.

Mbovane is only 1.77m tall, but according to the WP coach his small stature is no drawback. Coetzee says its "unbelievable" how physical Mbovane is.

"He is also very quick and I have no doubt that he will come through."

The coach was also full of praise for the WP under-21 team's flyhalf, Michael van der Spuy. "He's actually a centre, but had to play flyhalf out of necessity. I think that will enhance his career, because as soon as he moves back to centre he will use the more space available with the insight of a flyhalf," said Coetzee.

Coetzee is also happy with the form of a couple of new young players in his Currie Cup side.

Marcel Brache has impressed the coach at inside centre recently.

"A year ago he was too frail to play at Currie Cup level, but if he continues like he's currently doing, he could be an outsider to become an established WP player.

"His communication and organisational skills remind me a lot of Jaque (Fourie - WP's Bok centre).

"Then there's also a young Berton Klaasen, who floats between us (Currie Cup side) and the under-21's. He's still waiting for his big chance," said Coetzee.

Only time will tell then, whether Province will rue letting Sadie and Engelbrecht slip through their fingers.

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Comments
  • GraemeBB - 2011-09-08 22:52

    I think WP will rue the day they let these two boys go. Look after my boys!

      CliffB - 2011-09-09 05:42

      GraemeBB: Yep we will , but disguting turn of events , not BLUE BULLS for buying ( It's a Pro Era), but WP's inability to keep stars like that in the Cape

      Really - 2011-09-09 08:09

      Floater. dit laat my wonder!

      jk - 2011-09-09 08:12

      dozer- hy het n afrikaanse cd uitgebring- pretoria se commenste treffers volume 1...

      Hanjo - 2011-09-09 09:17

      I tend to agree with Coetzee, at least to some extent, Brache and Whitehead will make a very deadly centre combination, and with de Jongh , Jean and Jaques around, the loss of Sadie won't affect us too badly, I do however feel after Habana and Aplon, we're a little thin on the wings, but if Coetzee's comments on Mbovane are in any way true, he'll be great cover. I'd even consider having him on the wing with Aplon at the back.

      CliffB - 2011-09-09 16:51

      Bulldozer -NEVER GOT THE BEST OF ME , HE IS , WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A RUGBY BRAIN WANNABEE !!!

      Kleinboet - 2011-09-10 03:06

      @Cliffie Shame, is jy 'n p@ephol pilot. Die manne skeer lekker g@t met jou ne

      flat bier - 2011-09-10 18:38

      WP will probably lose all these other young stars as well coach...nothing you can say can make up for the fact that you lost JJ and Sadie. How much money did WP spend on the development of Sadie and JJ just to throw it all away? I dont understand it.

  • ikey_tiger - 2011-09-08 23:09

    Marcel not Macel.. GO WP!!!!

      jk - 2011-09-09 13:39

      maties to win super a leauge...again...

  • Lefty - 2011-09-08 23:22

    Allister bluf homself en niemand anders nie. Die twee manne is sterre in wording - ongelukkig in die ligblou trui!!

      Kleinboet - 2011-09-08 23:55

      Kan hulle sterre bly in die ligblou trui, dis die vraag! Ek glo WP is in die gelukkige posisie dat ons die verlies van hierdie twee begaafde spelers sal kan verwerk en baie sterk anderkant uitkom. Dié wat agterbly en oorneem sal die voorreg hê om by twee legendes te leer. Sadie en Engelbrecht is ook maar net sterre omdat hulle die geleenthede gekry (en benut) het wat net WP sy spelers bied.

      Jan - 2011-09-09 03:51

      En is hulle verseker van 'n plek in die begin span by die flou nulle? Ek twyfel, en net tyd sal leer

      Bulldozer - 2011-09-09 06:11

      Julle almal sê alewig hoe useless Meisiekind en Hekkies is, so miskien vervang die 2 laaities hulle.

      Really - 2011-09-09 08:22

      Lloyd: Volg in die voetspore van 'n legend soos Meisiekind. dis 'n eer daai!

      Bulldozer - 2011-09-09 08:38

      Really, ek dink dis enige center se droom. Om met Meisiekind of Gerber vergelyk te word.

  • Ken J May - 2011-09-08 23:25

    Now you know what the Lions feel like year after year...............Life after Alberts, life after Vermaak, life after Ludick, life after etc etc!!! Every year we have to start with a new team, but you know what?......This year we don't care because we are......Top of the Log! Let's all sing......Top of the Log!

      jk - 2011-09-09 08:22

      may- you cannot compare lions with a union like the mighty wp!!!

      Ken J May - 2011-09-09 22:14

      @Jk You May call me Ken!

  • WPBLIKSEM - 2011-09-09 06:13

    We will survive, but this is A MASSIVE loss. I think both these two STARS will become SPRINGBOKS in the next 3-5 years. JJ and Johan, I will miss you. Go WELL and please return after finishing your contracts. WP groete..

      jk - 2011-09-09 08:16

      wp- soos ek onder aan comments gese het, wp moes m effort gedoen het om ten minste een van hulle te hou...jj is my keuse...

  • SAHID - 2011-09-09 06:42

    ALLISTER, GET HOLD OF NOKWE.........WITH GOOD COACHING HE CAN BECOME A STAR..... TO JJ AND SADIE, GOOD LUCK FOR THE FUTURE, BUT EISH.....TO CHANGE FROM CAPE TOWN TO PRETORIA....UGHHHHH.......BAD CHOICE, MY FRIENDS.....

      GHT - 2011-09-09 08:06

      NO!! We don't need Nokwe. We can use our own youngsters to fill empty spots. If we really do need to buy someone. Buy Coenie!

  • Goliver - 2011-09-09 07:18

    Goliver Untill we have decent coaching staff in WP this will keep on happening and WP will keep on having no an empty trophies cupboard

      riaan swart - 2011-09-09 07:34

      we have decent coaching but they can`t hold onto the players. but not to worry we will get new guys through the system and then the bulls can buy them too because they have no structures in place. The end of the Bulls are near they can`t even develop there own players.

      Bulldozer - 2011-09-09 07:52

      Riaan, 10 jaar geen cups.

      Really - 2011-09-09 08:05

      Riaan my maat. Hoe gaat daai spannetjie ooit 'n beker wen as hulle aanhou bou. Julle klomp moet ruggraat kry, van daai soort wat jy in 'n bokom kry, nie daai wat van jelly gemaak is nie. Laat jou spannetjie vir die stoele speel. raak waar dit saak maak.

      GHT - 2011-09-09 08:09

      They can hold on to their players. But these to players were offered ridiculous money to play for the bulls. I don't like the fact that they are going, but we have excellent coaching staff and brilliant talent scouts. Just because these 2 chose money over the chance to learn from legends, doesn't make our coaching staff bad.

      Really - 2011-09-09 08:17

      Cupless legends, You play to win cups, not to be legendary in choking!

      jk - 2011-09-09 08:18

      really- hou jy maar by jou day job boetie, en los die rugby vir die wp manne...ok

  • Ryan - 2011-09-09 07:53

    Yeah,big loss and i am quite pissed off about it. Buy the old player and lose the young talented ones. We are going to rue this.

  • BokBru - 2011-09-09 07:53

    Sadie is beslis n toekomstige springbok. Kan nie glo WP en Allister dink dis okay om hom te verkoop nie. Swak WP, swak!!!

      Really - 2011-09-09 08:08

      Jy is op die regte pad ou maat. Jy moet eers erken daar is 'n probleem, basuin dit uit. WeePee is SWAK!! Ek stem 110% saam. Eindlik is hulle pateties.

      GHT - 2011-09-09 08:10

      No player is bigger than the Union. If a player demands more money than he deserves, he should go. We have enough talent to fill the gaps.

      Really - 2011-09-09 08:18

      @GHT. ek stem saam met jou. Habana was 'n goeie koop.

      jk - 2011-09-09 08:21

      bokbru- wat really nooit in sy kop sal kry nie was dat habana bitter baie geld in gebring het met marketing...iets wat die bulle brood nodig het op die oomblik..want ou gary en meisiekind...ai...

  • jk - 2011-09-09 08:10

    we should have done something to keep one of them...jj will be my choise...

  • kosie - 2011-09-09 08:44

    there goes Wynand olivier out of the bulls team. wp do you want him

      Bulldozer - 2011-09-09 09:02

      Maybe in 5 years when Wynand is a hasbeen.

      jk - 2011-09-09 12:24

      dozer-jys die enigste een wat dink jys snaaks...

      Bootman - 2011-09-09 15:52

      Wynand was a has been 5 years ago.

  • Slider - 2011-09-09 09:14

    It's fair enough for Sadie to leave, even though he will be the next great centre of Springbok rugby. It just isn't practical to keep de Villiers, Fourie, de Jongh and Sadie at the same province. He needs to play.

  • Gazzo - 2011-09-09 13:13

    It's a pity that they're leaving, but Sadie is behind JDV, Fourie and De Jongh at the moment, and with all of those players committed to WP for the next few years, he HAD to leave if he wanted to play regularly. I wish that he wasn't going to the Bulls, but I can't blame the guy for making a professional decision to further his career rather than sit on the bench at Newlands.

  • Francois - 2011-09-09 13:51

    Bulldozer gaan kyk die stats ; WP Rugby wen elke jaar die meeste bekers in SA; 0/19 0/21 amateur beker vroue beker ; hul 0/18S doen goed ; so ook 0/16S en 0/13s ; ook universiteite is varsity champs; jul rugby in Tswane kom nie naby EN die groot bekers gaan nog kom waar hul hoort; by die reus in SA Rugby; dankie tog ek skree vir niks op n veeplaas ; in n dieretuin of in n akwarium nie!

      The Observer - 2011-09-09 14:45

      Jy praat nou n klomp stront broer. WP 0/19 & 0/21 het net laas jaar gewen en juller vroue is het nie eers die half eindstryd gemaak nie. Ameteurs dink ek nie het al gewen nie. Dan geen bekers vir craven week nie, vrystaat wen in elk geval die main game die laaste 4/5 jaar. 0/13 het die bulle die meeste oor die laaste vyf jaar gewen en die jaar die limpopo bb. 0/16 die jaar het ep die OP gevat en laas jaar vrystaat. nee wat ek dink jy moet op n ander plek jou stats gaan soek, nuweland se bar is blykbaar nie akuraat nie.

      BlueRaven - 2011-09-09 15:00

      se hom Observer!

  • Fleckie - 2011-09-09 14:27

    WHEN U PAYIN GUYS LIKE JDV, J.FOURIE AND JDJ JUST IN THE CENTRES NO UNION WILL BE ABLE 2 GIVE SADIE THE KIND OF MONEY HE WANTS. SADIE IS GOOD BUT WE NEED WINGS, MBOVANE IS GOOD AND HAS GREAT FEET BUT I DOUBT HE IS READY FOR SUPER 15, HE WAS STILL IN SCHOOL LAST YEAR. WATS EVERYONES TAKE ON DANIE POOLMAN???????? HE SEEMS 2 B AVERAGE EVEN WITH SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES. IM HAPPIER WITH THE DEPTH THAT WE'VE CREATED IN THE PACK- MAYBE ANOTHER DECENT HOOKER THO. REALI REALI GOOD LOCKS COMING THROUGH.

      BlueRaven - 2011-09-09 15:02

      Fleckie jy maak my ore seer man! Haal af die caps lock asb?

      oukoos - 2011-09-09 17:51

      They are going to the best team/franchise in the history of the game. GO DIE BLOU!!!

      Kleinboet - 2011-09-10 00:51

      Ek sien daar is alweer 'n vals Oukoos aan die werk.

      Kleinboet - 2011-09-10 03:02

      @fake Kleinboet Jy's vervelig, gaan p@mp 'n merino

  • gene lou - 2011-09-09 18:03

    Goeie naand mense ek is van plan om volgende Saterdag Loftus toe te gaan. Om die Wp en Bulle te gaan kyk kan iemand my asb. se waar is die beste plek om op Loftus te sit en die wedstyd te kan kyk . byvoorbaat dank

      CITIZEN - 2011-09-09 21:08

      defnitief heel voor in die voorste rydis waar jy die beste rugby sien op die halflyn

      Stoffel Nel - 2011-09-09 21:26

      Bel my ek het vir jou 6 kaartjies op die hoof paviljoen.

  • bongosa - 2011-09-09 23:32

    Kon hulle maar nie liewer vir Habana terug gestuur het na die Bulle nie? Het die WP rugby unie 'n foutjie gemaak?

      Kleinboet - 2011-09-10 03:00

      Well who wouldn't go to the best franchise in the world if you get the opportunity. Well done Sadie and JJ, the Bulls will develop you into world-class players like they've done with a million other players. Totally stagnant in WP!

  • 722 - 2011-09-10 15:46

    Again WP letting top talent slip. Luckly Rassie have left the FS. WP can buy them again when they have no more value to the Bulls ha ha ha. Like Habana. Very poor discission making. Maybe WP will learn some day.

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