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Bulls see off plucky Cheetahs

2012-09-22 18:57

Pretoria - The Blue Bulls broke their three-week losing streak with a clinical performance to beat the Free State Cheetahs 34-30 (half-time 17-9) in Pretoria on Saturday.

While the Bulls had underperformed in previous weeks, things seemed to click for the hosts as they dominated every aspect of play to shut the Cheetahs out.

The victory kept the Bulls in the running to secure a place in the playoffs, lifting them off the bottom rung of the Currie Cup ladder, while the Cheetahs dropped down to the bottom of the log.

Bulls flyhalf Louis Fouché opened the scoring with a penalty in the fourth minute while Cheetahs winger Nico Scheepers returned the favour four minutes later.

The Pretoria side got over the whitewash in the 12th minute when No 8 Arno Botha pierced the Cheetahs’ defensive line.

The talented loose forward calmly off-loaded to a speeding Sampie Mastriet, who scored in the corner, with Fouché missing the conversion kick.

Scheepers closed the gap once again with a successful shot at goal in the 17th minute to take the scores to 8-6.

Fouché then stepped up to the plate to slot over a monstrous attempt at goal from deep inside his own half.

He succeeded with two more penalty conversions to extend the Bulls' lead to 11 points with eight minutes left in the opening period.

The Cheetahs then added another three points on the half-time whistle with Scheepers converting a penalty to reduce the home side's advantage.

After the break, Fouché converted another penalty conversion to regain their 18-point lead.

The Cheetahs, however, refused to bow down as they hit back with two tries within the space of 10 minutes.

The visiting attack found a new spark as Cheetahs coach Naka Drotské sent Sias Ebersohn on to replace Tewis de Bruyn at flyhalf.

It was, however, exciting backline player Raymond Rhule who was rewarded in the 53rd minute for an all-round sterling performance on the night, with Scheepers converting.

Midway through the second half the Cheetahs once again found a gap in the Bulls’ defence with Scheepers scoring in the right hand corner and converting his own try.

The closing minutes were filled with drama with the Bulls defending a four-point lead.

The hosts, however, took the game out of the Cheetahs’ reach as replacement loose forward CJ Stander added his name to the try scoring sheet with four minutes remaining in the encounter.

The Free Staters had the last say of the match as prop Marcel van der Merwe scored the final try with a minute left on the clock.

Scorers:


Blue Bulls:


Tries: Sampie Mastriet, Franco Mostert and CJ Stander.

Conversions: Louis Fouché (2)

Penalties: Fouché (5)

Cheetahs:

Tries: Raymond Rhule, Nico Scheepers and Marcel van der Merwe.

Conversions: Nico Scheepers: (3)

Penalties: Scheepers (3)

Teams:

Blue Bulls:

15 Jürgen Visser, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 JJ Engelbrecht, 12 Francois Venter, 11 Sampie Mastriet, 10 Louis Fouché, 9 Jano Vermaak, 8 Arno Botha, 7 Jacques Potgieter, 6 Dewald Potgieter (captain), 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Wilhelm Steenkamp, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Willie Wepener, 1 Mornè Mellett

Substitutes: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Frik Kirsten, 18 Cornell Hess, 19 CJ Stander, 20 Ruan Snyman, 21 Lionel Cronjè, 22 Ulrich Beyers

Free State Cheetahs:

15 Hennie Daniller, 14 Nico Scheepers, 13 Robert Ebersohn (captain), 12 Raymond Rhule, 11 Rayno Benjamin, 10 Tewis de Bruyn, 9 Sarel Pretorius, 8 Philip van der Walt, 7 Lappies Labuschagn, 6 Heinrich Brüssow, 5 Izak van der Westhuizen, 4 Francois Uys, 3 Ross Geldenhuys, 2 Hercu Liebenberg, 1 Marcel van der Merwe.

Substitutes: 16 Elandre Huggett, 17 Coenie Oosthuizen, 18 Carl Wegner, 19 Hendro Scholtz, 20 Sias Ebersohn, 21 Philip Snyman, 22 Andries Strauss.

SAPA

Comments
  • dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 19:01

    As expected and predicted another total walk in the park for the mighty Bulls, SA's flagship team. 3 time Super champions and most successful Curriecup team. Next please

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 19:05

      @caravan I just looked, I don't see us bottom of the log. I do see a province that's been 11yr cupless though

      peter.britz1 - 2012-09-22 19:08

      Yaaawn!, well at least you got your name right. dof you are for sure!

      blou.johnny - 2012-09-22 19:14

      ....cupless Cape Clowns...!! .....11 years..!! .......ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ..!!

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 19:29

      @nibiru How many cups for WP since the Bulls started playing? (1946)

      liesure.larry - 2012-09-22 19:29

      These Bunch of Bulls Supporters sound like a Typical Stormer supporter. One win and the have Win the Currie Cup.... Don't know who is the most common one...

      blou.johnny - 2012-09-22 19:43

      ...cupless for the last 11 years...!! ........ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ..!!!!!

      privaat.persoon - 2012-09-22 19:52

      The bulls are the bulls, they have a good track record, but they are not doing very well at the moment. Probably because the style of play has become boring, predictable and incredibly dumb, pretty much the same as their dumb, predictable and boring supporters, who seem to be stuck in the past, shame, I suppose it's all they have left to hang onto, that and HM, something else that should be left in the past.

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 19:56

      @daspoort Correction, WP has the most cups. Are they more successful than the Bulls? No, because since the Bulls played in the competition they have won it 23 times and WP 13 Next please

      will.fischadler - 2012-09-22 21:46

      ja ou dowwe.....rekords word gemaak en gebreek....feitlik 3 jaar en niks om te wys...o amper vergget ek die blou vulletjies se eerste drie....vorentoe aangee tot verby die Uniegebou....minus daai 7 punte...jou bek is te groot...maar nouja jy is 'n bietjie dof...of dalk baie dof....soos jou naam se...

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 21:52

      Maar een rekord wat nooit ooit gebreek sal word nie is 11jr sonder 'n Curriekoppie of 17jr sonder 'n Superkoppie

      Neville - 2012-09-23 08:00

      Hey dowwe.duane, your next three games are against the three top sides in the comp.Think you need to start preparing for the play offs against the EP Kings. Who would've thought?

      eden.vanderwiel - 2012-09-23 11:25

      Ja you won thanks to the refs! That was clearly a penalty try .Gemors high tackle only way you can win!

      eden.vanderwiel - 2012-09-23 11:25

      Blou johnny hoe oud is hy?

      deon.meyer.752 - 2012-09-24 08:21

      Can someone please explain a penalty try to me? I thought if an offense was commited in the act of scoring a try then its a penalty try, if the guy was not high tackled then he would have scored so why was it not one? I think the TMO just felt sorry for the Bulls.

      deon.meyer.752 - 2012-09-24 08:23

      Sorry another thing I think they were scared if they did give a penalty try the the high tackler would probably been yellow carded, so I think the bulls got very lucky.

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-24 16:39

      @deon.meyer I had a good chuckle at your crying on here! BWA HA HA How gay are you?

      eden.vanderwiel - 2012-09-24 23:05

      thanks Deon but please explain to dowwe mof that, as he is to young and gay to understand rugby

      deon.meyer.752 - 2012-09-25 11:04

      Sorry I'm not gay did you ask me because you looking for someone. LOL

  • andre.terblanche.5 - 2012-09-22 19:03

    Baie maklike wen vir die Bulle al moes hulle teen 16 manne speel. Maar baie belangrikker is die feit dat HM op Loftus was en tenminste nog 5 Bulle by die bokgroep gaan voeg. Brussow het bewys hy is nie meer goed genoeg vir HM nie. Coenietjie is pap geskrum so hy is ook uit. Go Go GO Bulle

      andre.terblanche.5 - 2012-09-23 08:13

      Ek wonde teen wie gaan julle choke...... Sad vir 11 jaar

  • blou.johnny - 2012-09-22 19:06

    .....die Bulle moet ontslae raak van ploeter Pie Pienaar...!! ...waar kom die Bulle aan hom..? ...by Pep Stores gekoop..?? ....wat doen Frans Ludeke deesdae om sy salaris te verdien....???????

      miandra.vanzyl - 2012-09-22 19:28

      Hy sit en skryf onder nuus24 allerhande snot onder naam bloujohnny en dowweduane dis hoe hy sy geld verdien!!

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 19:35

      @miandra Jy het duidelik 'n vreeslike minderwaardigheids komples, g'n wonder jou boyfriend het jou gelos nie. Gaan lees bietjie al jou comments van die Super-15 af, jy het nog geen positiewe kommentaar oor die Bulls gehad nie. So loop skree vir die WP jou idioot, jy's anyway nie welkom om 'n Bulls girl te wees nie!

      liesure.larry - 2012-09-22 19:45

      Dowwe.. jy meen sy is te f'en lelik...

      liesure.larry - 2012-09-22 21:17

      lol... Confused dot Caravan lekker suur druiwe.. is jy jelly???

      will.fischadler - 2012-09-22 22:19

      Miandra.....dit was uitstekend gestel.....maar ek is meer oortuig dit is twee 10 jariges wat op hul Pa se rekenaars speel....jammer as ek enige tienjariges beledig het....miskien is hulle jonger...

  • Marius Jonker - 2012-09-22 19:10

    raak van pienaar ontslae!!! dan sal dit klaar beter gaan!

      andre.terblanche.5 - 2012-09-22 19:35

      Ruan speel nie eers vir die bulle nie...........................

      blou.johnny - 2012-09-22 19:35

      ......die Bulle moet nou ophou om paloekas te koop... ...ploeter Pie Pienaar en Sadie is net mors van geld...

      stephen.axtell.7 - 2012-09-22 22:04

      Why do good players turn cr@p when they play for the loser Bulls side. Its like in other provinces players are brilliant, goes to the Bulls and the player becomes a loser unskilled idiot.

  • spear.tackle.7 - 2012-09-22 19:20

    Swakerige bul spaniki

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 19:31

      11yr and counting

  • andre.terblanche.5 - 2012-09-22 19:38

    Na die naweek het wp een afgeskuif en Bulle een op geskuif...... wp is dit die begin van chocke of wat?

      blou.johnny - 2012-09-22 19:48

      ....Champion Chokers...!! ......11 jaar..!! ........ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...!!

      Hugo Klaasen - 2012-09-22 19:54

      What is a chocke? The dirty you do to your little tottie?

      privaat.persoon - 2012-09-22 19:54

      The bulls are the bulls, they have a good track record, but they are not doing very well at the moment. Probably because the style of play has become boring, predictable and incredibly dumb, pretty much the same as their dumb, predictable and boring supporters, who seem to be stuck in the past, shame, I suppose it's all they have left to hang onto, that and HM, something else that should be left in the past.

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 19:59

      @Hugo Choke, chocke, tjoke, tjou ma, maak nie saak nie, WP doen dit als

      privaat.persoon - 2012-09-22 20:03

      I suppose you can't blame blou Johnny and dowwe Duane, what else do they have left? The past, beer, and their mental prowess.

      privaat.persoon - 2012-09-22 20:06

      Oh wait, sorry, they also have dean greyling.

      paul.botha.967 - 2012-09-22 21:18

      Privaat your mother is dumb and boring boet !! Don't generalise poeple you twat!!!

      privaat.persoon - 2012-09-23 06:21

      @paul Like I said, mental prowess, boring and predictable. Your comments prove it yet again. At least you guys are as consistently useless as the team you support.

  • miandra.vanzyl - 2012-09-22 20:10

    Mooi so my Blou Bulle! Baie beter was naelskraap en nail biting!

      blou.johnny - 2012-09-22 21:35

      @miandra... ..Baie dankie dat jy die Bulle ondersteun en vir jou intelligente, goed deurdinkte, positiewe kommentaar... Jy is voorwaar 'n voorslag Bul ondersteuner..!!

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 21:51

      @miandra' Kan ons nou jou tieties sien?

  • Hugo Klaasen - 2012-09-22 20:14

    If you are an awesome winner, comment on this post by typing WP or STORMERS, if you are a self confessed loser, you can write anything else....

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 20:24

      @Hugo Well done for correcting "looser" to "loser" after i corrected you. Now I'll correct you on how being 11yr cupless can't make you a winner

  • Hugo Klaasen - 2012-09-22 20:26

    @ Dowwe D00$ You are still a loser and looser...loser with your rugby...looser with your gran...

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 20:27

      @Hugo I like it when I have someone in a corner! Love it. You shy Hugo? Our brain surgeon on the blog

      Hugo Klaasen - 2012-09-22 20:32

      At Dowwe D00$...thats the only way you get "love"....you force them into a corner....i'm on the outside giving you 5's against your empty head...pellet

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 20:49

      Hugo Einstein Klaasen, buried on September 22, 2012 after losing/loosing/lusing his battle with Dowwe Duane. R.I.P

      Hugo Klaasen - 2012-09-22 21:20

      Hahaha....what a pellet....well done Doo$, you win a place on the bottom part of the log...well done, your mom would be proud...but she's to busy giving you h3ad...pfffft

      blou.johnny - 2012-09-22 21:22

      ....toothless-loser-choker Cape Clown.. !!... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...!!

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 21:31

      @Hugo HA HA HA, don't know what to say. My mom this and my mom that, i feel for you actually. You clearly were not the gold star student at school/university. Bit of a disappointment to your family?

      Hugo Klaasen - 2012-09-23 01:25

      At Dowwe D00$, not only your mom...i mentioned your gran too...troll

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-23 01:46

      @Hugo Klaasen Answer my question please: Are you a bit of a disappointed to the family as a under achiever?

      will.fischadler - 2012-09-23 10:03

      doffie duanne.....the only one who is in a corner is you....thats why you and a few other's have only one line on the comments....the less the blou vulletjies win the more you shift the attention to something else....old diversion tactict of ones teams failures....and your own as well...

  • valleier.courant - 2012-09-22 21:13

    An obvious forward pass would already put the Free State as the winning team. A high tackle that is so obvious a penalty try would put them even farther ahead. Why are these things simply ignored? Why must a fairly good team loose there games because of incompetent officials. Even the blind could see that the conversion kick was over, but not the officials?

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 21:32

      @valleier Because they need to make up for the 7 games the Stormers won in the Super-15 with ref assistance

      stephen.axtell.7 - 2012-09-22 22:00

      @dowwe, why are you so retarded? I know you are a vlou nulle supporter But you seem rather dim even for a Bulls supporter.

  • ivan.sport.18 - 2012-09-22 21:25

    Geluk my Bulle, hoewel dit nie n mooi wen was nie. Wat het daai insinking in die 2de helfte veroorsaak..het Pine julle dalk in die kleedkamer gaan besoek? Dat hy nog hoegenaamd op Loftus toegelaat word is n onreg teenoor die spelers. Julle sal drasties moet verbeter, want die Cheetahs was maar self lou gewees. Ten minste het julle darem nog veggees. Verban net vir daai Pine en julle sal baie beter speel. En stuur vir Ludeke saam weg. Jammer dat CJ weggaan, want hy kon vorentoe baie waarde vir die Bulle gehad het.

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 21:42

      @Ivan Is jy 'n mof?

      blou.johnny - 2012-09-23 01:05

      ...die Bulle het ploeter Pienaar by Pep Stores se uitverkoping gekoop... ...die Bulle het gedink hulle koop 'n bargain... ...nou is die Bulle amper laaste op die Currie beker log...

  • george.cormier.10 - 2012-09-22 21:43

    my roomate's sister-in-law makes $78/hour on the internet. She has been fired for 10 months but last month her pay was $12512 just working on the internet for a few hours. Read more here http://bit.ly/OgQHJz

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-22 21:50

      @george Shut up before I whack you out of your shoes. Go away

      michael.verreynne - 2012-09-22 23:16

      And just what does this have to do with rugby?

  • bertie.myburgh.7 - 2012-09-22 23:00

    Goeie oomblikke in di wedstryd maar baje skaafwerk nodig om semi finaal te bereik enigiets nog moontlik bulle 4 life!

  • michael.verreynne - 2012-09-22 23:02

    Well done, Bulls! It was not a great victory, but a victory is a victory, no matter how it comes. Also well played Cheetahs! Good luck to both teams next weekend!

  • jco.vanrooyen - 2012-09-23 06:17

    Die bulle het mooi gespeel, gee hul toe. Ek selfs is 'n blou bul ondersteuner maar wragtig 'n paar van my span se ondersteuners gooi 'n man se naam sleg in die modder met hul comments. Daar is goeie rugby wat gespeel word deur ander provinsies ook. Kom ons as bul ondersteuners gee toe dat ander spanne speel goeie en selfs beter rugby as ons span.

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-23 06:47

      @jco Hou jou bek jou Danville rubbish

      pomene.stormer - 2012-09-23 07:05

      Die tyd is ryp om Jebb Sinclair n kontrak aan te bied sodat hy wanneer hy Desember huistoe gaan vir Kersfees, dat hy net gou n draai ry en die snot uit n spedifieke RSA hssbeen in Kanada gaan klap (n paar PK's sal doen !!) - dis nou as hy (die hasbeen) nie in sy 4de verdieping vekruip nie want wat hy vir niemand se nie die vierde verdieping is die parkeer garage van die woonstelblok waar hy huur - aap !!!!

      ivan.sport.18 - 2012-09-23 08:01

      jco, sulke ouens is totaal wanopgevoed en behoort eerder om by n rioolplaas te werk. Hulle kan op geen berig waardevolle kommentaar lewer nie, en die insette wat hul wel gee is heeltemal nutteloos en onvanpas. Lees bv net hoe hulle op van die vroulike geslag afkom. Dis waarom hulle nooit in die lewe vordering sal maak nie, en tevrede is om te stagneer in hulle eie donker, deppresiewe wereldjie. Totale floppe in die sameleweing, en die grootste verlies is dat hulle hul self ook Blou Bul fans noem. Natuurlik speel ander spanne goeie rugby en tans beter as ons, en vir my is dit bv nie die end van die wereld om teen WP te verloor nie. Maar sommige mense dink dit dan eerder goed om almal sleg te se.

      will.fischadler - 2012-09-23 10:15

      Ja ek stem 100% saam....goeie kritiek enkommentaar is waaroor dit hier gaan....en eintlik moet ons hulle ignoreer....veral doffie duanne en blou vulletjie johnny....maar ek kry hulle ontsettend jammer...dat jy jou hele lewe lank in Pretoria bly en nog nooit op Loftus was nie.....ek twyfel of enige van die twee al enige blou vulletjie spelers ontmoet het....en of hulle enige vriende het.....hulle arme vrouens moet dit week na week ontgeld wanneer hulle tantrums gooi...en dit lyk my is redelik gereeld....en doffie ek se weer los Danville uit....gaan kry eers laerskool klaar voor jy weer op hulle neerkyk....ek het vriende daar en ja hulle is goeie ordentlike mense....skuim kry jy oorals....jyself 'n goeie voorbeeld.

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-23 16:31

      @pomene Baie wil maar niemand kan nie, ek gee PK's, word nie ge-PK nie. En ja, dit sal maar neuk om my te vind in my 6000sq huis

      pomene.stormer - 2012-09-23 16:42

      Jammer jy is nie in die rondte nie grootseun. Jou arrogant vuilbek kort een van die bestes maar nou-ja wat kan n mens meer verwag van n treiter wat weghardloop uit sy land uit en dan sy bek wil rek. Jou 2 breinselle is onderontwikkeld en jy verdien nie eers daai twee selletjies nie !! Geniet jou droom wereld en as jy weer in RSA is laat ons weet op die forum dan sal ek n seisoen kaartjie koop om jou te donner want ek waarborg jou daar is ten minste 800 Bulls supporters voor my !!

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-23 17:52

      @pomene Sure, laat my weet wanneer en waar, soos ek voorheen aan jou genoem het is die distale derde van my orgaan groter/vinniger/sterker/slimmer/mooier as jy. Asseblief, kom wys my hoe doen jy dit. Ek bly vreeslik lekker in Vancouver, ek het mos nooit gese noodwendig vir ewig nie?! Ek spandeer in elk geval 3 maande van die jaar in SA. In die meantime geniet ek dit om R16Milj per jaar te maak, in 'n mansion met seeuitsig te bly, Astons te ry, die wereld te toer, al wat 'n Sport event is wereldwyd te gaan kyk, en veral om te kyk hoe die WP alweer nie die koppie wen op my 90inch Sharp LED. En dan 2 maande 'n jaar op Plettenberg baai te le en nog 'n maand op die Bosveld plaas by Thabazimbi. Life is good Pomene, it's really good

      ivan.sport.18 - 2012-09-23 20:48

      Haha..duane ou seun, besef jy wat se grap is jy op die forums? Jy praat seker van Zim dollars, speelgoedkarretjies en pophuise. Staak jou kinderagtigheid, want jy het n helse sielkundige probleem met die werklikheid. Gaan speel verder in jou droom fantasiee met jou karretjies en poppe. Iemand wat jou ernstig opneem sal nog gevind moet word. In 11 jaar het WP dalk nie n beker nie, maar in jou leeftyd sal jy nie eers 11 breinselle bymekaar kan maak nie. Jy is pleinweg onnosel verby. En dankie dat jy my kommentaar gelees het :)

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-24 15:28

      @Ivan Hoekom kom kyk jy nie vir jouself nie? Ek betaal jou oneway kaartjie Kanada toe. Toe kom, jou bek is mos groot. Vra my enige iets

  • rinus.groeneveld.7 - 2012-09-23 08:35

    We will be VERY lucky if we win 1 of the last 3 games ... Sharks in Durban, WP at Loftus and Lions in Jhb. Game was still too close. And now Pine has a life-line again after a win against the bottom of the log Cheetahs. Nothing to get exited about ....

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-23 16:28

      WP should be a walk in the park. 11yr cupless team

  • jm.palmer.39 - 2012-09-23 08:53

    BULL / CHEETAH GAME Quote "Bulls get desperate win" - JA RIGHT WITH HELP Quote : “With the Bulls getting no ball in the middle part of the second half, they were soon on the back foot, and it wasn’t long before Scheepers went over in the corner to bring the visitors even closer. The Cheetahs were almost done in as the assistant refs first ruled the conversion not over, and then the TMO, Shaun Veldsman, overruled them for the two points.” Once again a poorly refereed game and utterly poor decisions made by TMO. The refs decisions resulted in the final score !! Should it not be the game played by the 30 players should reflect the final score ?? Send the 4 Refs for eye-sight tests please cause they ruin our beloved game rugby !! Referee: Rasta Rasivhenge Assistants: Lourens van der Merwe, Cobus Wessels TMO: Shaun Veldsman Saddened Rugby fan JM PALMER

  • eden.vanderwiel - 2012-09-23 11:32

    BlouJohnny ,Dowwe dolla.. waarvoor is julle happy? Julle moes verloor het hoe kan mens so gemors high tackle gee en weg kom.. Was 'n penalty try totens julle beliefde Matfield se so! Should have still been on the bottom of the log.. Bulls was once again helped by the refs as most of the times!

      dowwe.duane - 2012-09-23 16:27

      @eden Not nearly as much as the Stomers who got 7 games on a plate from the ref in the Super-15 Now shut your fat trap before I whack you out of your shoes

      eden.vanderwiel - 2012-09-23 18:53

      Johnny I will love to meet you in person! Just to give you one moerse KLAP, oh ja I cant because your still under age!

  • bidi.barett - 2012-09-24 09:34

    we needed the win and we're greatful but the bulls wont make the play offs. Simply because they don't play for 80 minutes. I'll only be happy if we win the next 3 games, which i think we wont anyway. I'm not negative just realistic

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