Blue Bulls sign WP's Cronjé

2011-09-19 15:43

Johannesburg - The Blue Bulls Company Pty (Ltd) on Monday announced the signing of flyhalf Lionel Cronjé from Western Province on a two-year contract.

His term starts from the beginning of November after his current deal with the Cape side concludes at the end of October.

The versatile 22-year-old from Bloemfontein, who can also play fullback, has featured for Province in the Currie Cup and also turned out for the Stormers in Super Rugby over the last two seasons.

He is currently recovering from knee surgery.

Cronjé, who is a former SA under-20 player, said he was looking forward to the challenge of playing his rugby at Loftus.

"The opportunity at the Bulls is one that I am looking forward to immensely," said Cronjé.

"I would like to believe that my best years as a player are still ahead of me and that I could become an asset to the Bulls and take my game to the next level with them."

Heyneke Meyer, who is head of rugby at the Bulls, said the union has been looking to sign Cronjé for some time.

"We are happy to finally have Lionel on our books," Meyer said.

"We have been looking to secure his services for a while now and I am very pleased with the news.

"Lionel will play an important role in our plans for the next couple of years."


  • gooinat - 2011-09-19 15:47

    Can you f...... believe it:(

      jk - 2011-09-19 15:49

      im glad hes going...i got a friend in the fs, and when we signed him i told me the guy is overrated...after the bulls he will go to the lions, and end his career at griekwas...

      gooinat - 2011-09-19 15:51

      JK,I must admit I am not the biggest Lionel fan there is but WTF is up with the Bulls and secondly Lionel will play second fiddle to Morne Steyn.

      jk - 2011-09-19 16:11

      and how many flyhalfs to the want...?

      Gert - 2011-09-19 16:30

      @gooinat, teen hierdie tempo sit die hele WP span eersdaags in Bloubulland. Dit gaan donners verwarrend wees. Manne soos @Brannas cheer eintlik die WP Manne soos @kleinboet k*k eintlik die WP uit

      gooinat - 2011-09-19 16:36

      Gert,hoekom gaan koop hulle nie ander plek nie????Brannas is permanent gesuip,as hy sien netbal op die TV dan dink hy dit is Atletiek(hoogspring)

      FJ2 - 2011-09-19 16:47

      He's not going to play for WP again, anyway.

      Chief Kok - 2011-09-19 16:56


      Ohmikehunt - 2011-09-19 21:18

      He was 5th choice for Stormers/Province and is hugely injury prone... Vlou Nulle are welcome to have him.

      722 - 2011-09-19 21:19

      Another one? Is IT ever going to stop for the WP. Cheetas!!!!!

      Kleinboet - 2011-09-20 00:28

      Yet another WP contribution to rugby on the platteland. Hope you guy up North are grateful like hell, or we might just stop being generous! On a more serious note: What are happening to all the genuine Blue Bull youngsters? Do they stop playing rugby after matric? Are they already crocked by then? Why do they not come through the ranks? Can South Africa afford such a waste of talent - and there are lots of talented youngsters up North?

      Blouste-Blou - 2011-09-20 13:20

      Have you ever count the number of players WP bought from the Sharks?

  • Dave-the-bul - 2011-09-19 15:48


      jk - 2011-09-19 15:52

      grat, if you want to build your future around him,,thumbs up...

      Alan - 2011-09-19 16:51

      I agree with you Dave we are just giving the rest a chance it becomes boring after a while to have no competition and all of them crying every week BULLS ALL THE WAY GO BOYS so we just showed them again this past weekend its just temporary and we are in a building phase WATCH OUT

  • Muzi Msimango - 2011-09-19 15:51

    Very Happy about this signing i believe lionel will become a bok in the future. He is has the all round game that the bulls are looking for. Brummer..Boshoff and Fouche are just not up to it they have failed to convince me.

  • Kaapie - 2011-09-19 15:53

    Desperte times calls for desperate measures... bulls, it appears cant develop their players. Having said so WP should have played him instead of De Waal

  • LoveCricket - 2011-09-19 15:53

    Shame, the Bulls just can't produce their own talent.

      lognut - 2011-09-19 16:52

      did you not read the article, "The versatile 22-year-old from Bloemfontein". You never developed anything, instead you stole from Free state, and now we stealing from you.

      Oukoos - 2011-09-19 17:38

      @lognut Cronje is an old Queen's College boy. Thereafter he attended the University of the Free State and thereafter moved to the WP in 2010. He never represented the Cheetahs, i.e. he was developed in the WP. Before making stupid statements, first get yor facts right, your stupid a***hole

      Makutu - 2011-09-20 09:49

      Bull$hit oukoos! What did you just write...? It's a pity there are no internet erasesr because you need it for the stupid rant you just made.

      CliffB - 2011-09-20 10:39

      Makutu : Just cheched up on OUKOOS , seems he is right , played for Shimla's , Baby Boks , WP & Stormers - Never Cheetahs , Did go to Queens which as far as I remember , In Eastern cape. You sholud be glad there are no internet erasers, because it would rub you out completely. That all being said . If WP cannot look after the talent , maybe someone else will !!!

      Oukoos - 2011-09-20 13:24

      @Makutu, please explain where you disagree with me, or shut the hell up.

      Fleckie - 2011-09-20 22:40

      @oukoos HA HA HA Bietjie van 'n humeur probleempie ou tiervel?

  • Muzi Msimango - 2011-09-19 15:58

    Where is SAFFA-CAT guys lionel cronje was NEVER given a full currie cup season and a proper chance to cement his place.He is a prodigy like goosen he is highly rated in the eastern cape even when i saw him jol for queens college he was a star in the making.He has all the attributes to become a bok flyhalf.Sure he has fallen under the radar BUT watch this space heyneke meyer has BIG plans for cronje he will rattle a few feathers.

      gooinat - 2011-09-19 16:01

      Thats if he is not injured for half the season.!!!!!!!!!

      Grunk - 2011-09-19 16:04

      Unfortunately Muzi, while Cronje was one of my stars of the future, unfortunately he now is only one of the present bunch of very good young flyhalves we have who are going to have to play in the shadow of the the best flyhalf we've had since (or maybe even including) Naas Botha. Goosen, if he remains injury free, is going to be one of the Greats.

      GHT - 2011-09-19 16:07

      The thing is. Lionel could have replaced Jantjies at fullback! He is more than capable in slotting in the last line of defense. You can't expect that from van Aswegen

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-09-19 16:37

      Here I am Muzi. I am sad to see Lionel go, because as you know I am a fan. However - one can't expect the kid to sit down here and wilt, while he is currently (for some reason) rated behind, Grant, van Aswegen, Lane, Coleman, Katrikilis...... Things went wrong down here for him after the discipline issues last year in the then S14. Rassie (who brought him here) and Coetzee for some reason don't seem to rate him at all anymore. So good luck Lionel. I have always believed you have what it takes - and even though you are trekking up north, I still like you kid. That said - once more, the Bulls are throwing away the players they have invested so much in at their academy. @muzi - serious question. What happens to all the kids the Bulls sign at Craven week every year? And all the other players they collect? What happens to those guys?

      BlueRaven - 2011-09-19 16:48

      Grunk I agree with you on Johan Goosen, that boy is the real deal.

  • SportFanatic - 2011-09-19 16:01

    It's amazing that when province signed Habana and Fourie the Bulls and Lions had so much to say. Now that all the unions (read bulls) buy the younger province players, no one is saying anything?

      lafras59 - 2011-09-20 00:21

      Don't you think there's a huge difference between buying other unions' Springboks(some were still under contract) and buying a couple of youngsters? Or is it too difficult for you to see the difference? Why are you lot so unhappy about? Lionel wasn't even in Coetzee's plans for the future - he played 5 other flyhalves before Lionel.Now let the boy become a Springbok in a light blue jersey and win loads of silverware for Pretoria.

  • stormloop - 2011-09-19 16:04

    province clearly dont have a plan for the future. here's to another 10years without success.

      jk - 2011-09-19 16:16

      stormloop- as al ons loskakels reg is dan staan lionel 4de in die laat hy ma gaan...en jou jou comment ivm ons planning...cmon, os proses begin nie in 2011 nie boet, without propper planning we wouldnt havr survive this season...

      GHT - 2011-09-19 16:20

      We do have a plan. But the Union made it clear after the Sadie and Engelbrecht saga that they will not pay junior players massive salaries before they deserve it. It would not have been fair to the other players if Cronje got a big counter offer from WP. That surely would have caused tension in the squad. This sucks, but that's life. We have enough future stars in Catrakilis, van Aswegen, Sam Lane and Kurt Coleman. But I really wanted Cronje in at 15!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-09-19 16:43

      We can't afford to keep every player chaps - Rassie made that abundantly clear. I say again, had we signed Sadie for what the Bulls will be paying him, we would have lost 5-6 other junior (U/21) players, including chaps like Kolisi, Etsebeth, Roux, Carr, Kitshoff etc etc etc as they too would have then chased the 'rand'. The problem with WP the last 5 years has been paying ONE player too much, and the rest too little.....and as Rassie said recently - there has to be greater equality amongst the junior players - end of. Which brings me back to the question: how do the Bulls academy youngsters now feel, being replaced by highly paid assasins from other provinces? Well by my reckoning they feel the same way many WP youngsters felt over the years when the WP did the same thing. NOW I CALL WHAT WE DID HERE (SAME AS LETTING SADIE GO) FUTURE PLANNING....letting 3 go to keep 10 others - makes sense to me.

      Oukoos - 2011-09-19 17:46

      @SAFFACAT, Jy is halfpad reg. Wakefield het vroeër vanjaar gesê dat die WP span te wit is. Die onnosel wetter weet niks van rugby af nie, maar speel tog te graag die rassekaart. As ek 'n belowende jong wit rugbyspeler was, sou Wakefield se uitsprake my ook die skrik op die lyf gejaag het. Dus, jong wit spelers vat die pad en ons sal op die ou ent met stront soos Dollie bly sit

      Whoosa - 2011-09-20 07:44

      @ Saffa - i can totaly understnad that you cant keep em all. But my word, if you gonna let some of them go why let go the best?????? I wouldve easely let go Karr, etsebeth, Daniller, Roux, Hartsenberg,habana, Jantjes, Grant, JDV to keep these 3. Half of these players wil anyway be fringe players playing second fiddle to Andries Bekker Schalk and co. In my opinion Province made a very big mistake in letting Sadie and JJ go, i can sort of understand Cronje, seeming that youve got 3/4 good and very capable fly's

      OnSide - 2011-09-20 08:27

      @Oukoos...Boet it is not just WP that's "too white". The same was said about the Bulls and Cheetahs a while back. And the Bulls still are and yet they buy more white players. You missed the point, in any case. Did you speak to Lionel? Did he tell you why he is leaving? You know what they say about assumptions...

      Gert - 2011-09-20 14:03

      @Onside Ek is nie lekker by nie. Het Wakefield dan nie gesê dat die WP rugby te wit is nie? Beteken dit nie dat van wit spelers ontslae geraak moet ten einde swart spelers die kans te gee nie (hoe anders gaan die situasie reggestel word)? Ek moet met jou saamstem (en met @Oukoos verskil) dat Cronje se weggaan moontlik niks met Wakefield se rassistiese uitlating te doen het nie. Maar die feit van die saak is dat Cronje vrygestel is van sy kontrak wat hom nog volgende jaar verbind aan die WP. DIt laat 'n ou dink ne? Ja, as jy 'n rassebril (rasistiese bril?) wil opsit, is daar meer provinsiale rugbyspanne wat te "wit" is. Ek het egter nog nie gehoor dat die president/visipresident van hul rugbyunie sulke rassistiese uitsprake maak nie. En ja, ek beskou sulke uitsprake as rassisties. Dit is tyd dat ons as trotse Suid-Afrikaners vorentoe beweeg en eerder aan kwaliteit as aan velkleur voorkeur gee. Alvorens ouens soos Wakefield dit nie leer nie, sal WP rugby (tot groot vreugde van @Brannas en al) vir die volgende 10 jaar steeds bekerloos voortploeter

  • Blikskottel - 2011-09-19 16:08

    Bulls should try to get that new Goosen no 10 out of Bloem!

  • Sneeky7 - 2011-09-19 16:12

    The Blue Bulls make ordinary fly-halves great. Vlok Cilliers will teach him how to kick, and after a couple of years he becomes a Springbok!

      gooinat - 2011-09-19 16:16

      Another kicking Flyhalf,ag no man please we want to see running rugby!!!!!!!

      jk - 2011-09-19 16:17

      plaese!! he will be way to heavy to be a backline player...dont make me laugh!!!and he is slow...

      Haas Das se nuuskas - 2011-09-19 16:35

      Agreed...A guy by the name of Francois Hougaard comes to mind, 4th in line at Province, year at the Bulls he became a Bok...Eish, dont like the Bulls but their structures are brilliant, and there trophies proves it!Wake up Province!!!

  • Gert - 2011-09-19 16:27

    Regte speler, maar verkeerde kleur (vir die WP se Wakefield).

      Mario798 - 2011-09-20 10:22

      What does colour have to do with this???? U an idiot, so is the other 5 idiots that likes your comment.

  • Stormsaam! - 2011-09-19 16:31

    Congrats to WP management for another young talent lost! But this is just what WP does, we develop a player and when he's ready to slot into the starting line-up we let him go, lets look at some has beens shockers WP has signed or hung on to for way too long in the past two decades: Hilton Lobberts, Willem de Waal, Egon Seconds, Ricky January, Gerrie Britz, Joe van Niekerk, Pieter Dixon, AJ Venter, Bolla Conradie, Fritz van Heerden and the list goes on. If you look at the players that was signed (either junior or senior contract) and let go when they had much more still to offer WP Rugby: Johan Sadie, JJ Engelbrecht, Lionel Cronje, Brent Russel, Derick Hougaardt, Percy Montgomery, Bob Skinstad, Francois Louw... Now I'm just waiting for the article that reads: "Bulls sign Bekker", Province Rugby Management, have yourself a big old "F... YOU!"

  • GP - 2011-09-19 16:50

    Great talent from the Eastern Cape - Queens College.

  • didi.basson - 2011-09-19 16:58

    Ek le die blaam vierkantig voor die WP bestuur.Hulle is te slapgat om hul talentvolle spelers te behou. Wakefield kla alewig oor te min spelers van kleur in die WP span, so ek neem nie vir Cronje,Sadie en Engelbrecht kwalik dat hulle na ander provinsies gaan nie. Volgende jaar gaan Sadie en Engelbrecht die WP stukkend speel vir die Bulls en heel moontlik Springbokke word net omdat die WP bestuur te slapgat is.

  • Muzi Msimango - 2011-09-19 16:58

    @SAFFA-CAT the bulls have a massive problem we have tooo many junior contracted players some of them are not good enough.Its a problem that the bulls management will have to sort out.We have francois venter...william small smith..serfontein..swanepoel and sadie these 5 young centres are top boks in the making.

  • justan.t.potgieter - 2011-09-19 17:05


      John Douglas - 2011-09-19 17:31

      Well, if he's not appreciated elsewhere, what must they do?

  • Chris Holtshausen - 2011-09-19 17:34

    Die enigste goeie nuus agter hierdie 'stroping' van WP-spelers deur die Bulle is dat ons geharde WP-ondersteuners binnekort vir ons B-span daar bo in die Noorde sal kan skreeu. Gaan hulle nou in ligblou en wit strepe speel? After all is hul nou niks meer as vermomde WP-span nie: Hougaardt, Dippenaar, Sadie, JJ, Lionel... Wie's volgende?! Shame, het die goed dan nie iets soos 'n ontwikkelings akademie nie?!

      John Douglas - 2011-09-19 17:47

      Thank your administrators for not giving him game time while Willem de Waal was there. We don't need a bunch of happy box supporters thank you.

  • Carl Muller - 2011-09-19 17:58

    Maak hom 'n bok!!!!!!

  • Shane - 2011-09-19 18:54

    thats what happen when you win 3 Super rugby titles, and a string of currie cups, you got the $$$$$ so you go Bulls, buy the whole freakin Western Cape!!

      henry - 2011-09-20 04:49

      Good idea Shane because thats where the best players are from.

  • Claude - 2011-09-20 05:49

    It is the 'Professional Era' and especially sportsmen must go where they can earn the most while they can. The Bulls seem to be able to entice talent from everywhere but especially, at the moment, Western Province. We need to be able to hang onto our talent far better than we do but there is no easy solution to this. I do think we should be looking ahead at least three seasons all the time.

  • wplife - 2011-09-20 10:35

    It’s amazing on how the bull bulls’ supports are always quick to comment on how bad WP and the Cheaters players are. But they are the first to buy the players form this provinces. Where are the Bull Bulls under 21’s and 19’s?

      Blouste-Blou - 2011-09-20 13:27

      WPlife - They've beaten the under 21's and under 19's from WP just this passed Saturday!

      wplife - 2011-09-20 13:36

      cant argue with that. but then why dont they pick there own under 19 or under 21 flyhalf for the Bulls

      Northern Stormer - 2011-09-20 13:45

      @Blouste-Blou en hulle het die vorige rondte teen dieselfde spannetjies verloor - dit was natuurlik voor beserings die seniot span gedwing het om ons o/19 & o/21 leeg te tap - of hoe ?

      BlueRaven - 2011-09-20 16:31

      Northern Stormer and your point is? Blouste-Blou merely answered wplife's question :)

      Northern Stormer - 2011-09-20 17:10

      @BlueRaven - Okay and I just commented on BlousteBlou's reply - what is your point !

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