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Coetzee: WP building for S15

2012-08-08 07:50

Cape Town - It may be the Currie Cup season now, but Western Province coach Allister Coetzee says they're already building towards next year's Super Rugby competition.

WP start their Currie Cup campaign at home to the Sharks on Saturday - the team who knocked the Stormers out of this year's Super Rugby competition in the semi-finals.

"We want to do well in the Currie Cup, but the management team sees it as the first phase towards next year's Super Rugby competition," Coetzee told Die Burger.

The Stormers topped the overall Super Rugby log but struggled to cross the whitewash in all their games. Despite being the best defensive unit in the competition, they failed to record a single four-try bonus point win and also scored the least amount of tries of all the teams.

But Coetzee insists they won't alter much to their game plan.

"We won 14 out of 17 matches in the Super series - and that shows that there's not much wrong.

"There will be one or two small changes, but we don't need to change a lot," he said.

Their clash against the Sharks at Newlands kicks off at 19:10 on Saturday evening.

Sport24

Comments
  • blou.johnny - 2012-08-08 07:56

    .....no no no no...! ...time to go cupless Alister Coetzee....! ...many year failure.... ...where is Rassie..???

      Taurus.Blue1 - 2012-08-08 08:12

      Deja vu anyone??? I'm sure I've read similar articles in 2009, 2010, 2011 and now again in 2012, I bet you we will read the same in 2013... to be continued

      BlouMasjien1 - 2012-08-08 08:16

      Choking is their forte

      andre.terblanche.5 - 2012-08-08 08:54

      Ek dink hy snuif iewers, Los Coetzee hy bevoordeel al die ander spanne. Terwyl hy verdedig druk die ander driee.

      andre.terblanche.5 - 2012-08-08 08:57

      Isak jou span het nog laas in die apartheidsjare gewen.

      harold.lloyd.520 - 2012-08-08 09:04

      Next year. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      BlouMasjien1 - 2012-08-08 09:42

      @isak, Jy is reg wee pee het 32 gewen. Nou my vraag, ken jy iemand wat kan se, dat wp in hul leeftyd, meer bekers gewen het as wat die Bulle gewen het? Onthou net, hy/sy moet ouer as 98jaar wees

      harold.lloyd.520 - 2012-08-08 09:46

      Blou, me being 119 can unfortuanitely say that. But like everybody said that the world cup wasn't really a world cup without the Boks playing, the same can be said about a Blue Bull less Curry cup.

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:02

      It's not building if your aim is to win conference cups and brag about winning 14 out of 17 games when the only game that counted was number 17 which you lost by choking. It's building when you aim to win the whole thing. The stormers are content with condolence cups and mediocrity. Alister, a pile of turd with a dollop of cream on it is still a pile of turd. Get a clue bra

      BlouMasjien1 - 2012-08-08 10:22

      @sakkie,Moenie die onderwerp verander nie, antoord my vraag. Die Vodacom cup is n derde rangse kompetisie, ek praat van groot Rugby

      BlouMasjien1 - 2012-08-08 10:46

      @sakkie, Soos die stormpies/wp die laaste 2 dekades speel, kan ek verstaan, dat jy dink dat hulle nie groot rugby speel nie.

      press.enter.12 - 2012-08-08 21:49

      By the way - die WP het die meeste van hulle "cups" gewen voor die groot trek . . . .

  • squeegee.pilot - 2012-08-08 07:59

    Just two days ago he said S15 was behind and the focus is now Currie Cup. What happened? Given up hope already?

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:29

      Japan

  • ruan.vanniekerk.754 - 2012-08-08 07:59

    Ou pw se, bou n nasie. Maar hoe de moer bou ek met jou

      press.enter.12 - 2012-08-08 21:48

      Ja jirre - wat betaal hulle julle WP supporters om nog games te gaan kyk ?

  • lodewyk.fred - 2012-08-08 08:05

    What's wrong is like the Proteas you keep choking when it matters.

  • blou.johnny - 2012-08-08 08:06

    ...only Chuck Norris can coach the Stormers to win Super and Currie cups... ...but it will take time...

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:29

      Chuck Norris went to Japan

  • steyts - 2012-08-08 08:07

    I hope those one or two changes will be ALL OUT ATTACK!!!!!! Once again we saw that defense on its own will not win you a trophy!! Please Allister! Get some excitement into the game!!!

  • paul.coetzee1 - 2012-08-08 08:13

    With the Currie Cup due to start this week-end, there has been plenty of rivalry with comments ranging from some intelligent observations right down to the few less intelligent bloggers that resort to personal insults to get their point across. (You know who I am referring to) I did a little research and checked results from the inceptions of domestic competitions around the major rugby nations of the world. In Europe the Heineken Cup has been won by Toulouse with a success rate of 23.5% of competition wins. In New Zealand Waikato has secured 25% of all NPC wins. Australia has no inter-state competition that has been played on a regular basis. In South Africa the Currie cup has been won by Western Province 42% (including 4 draws). It certainly would appear that WP is clearly the most successful provincial franchise in the history of the game.

      blou.johnny - 2012-08-08 08:18

      ....and what about the last 11 years..?? ....Hmmmmmmmmmm....??

      BlouMasjien1 - 2012-08-08 08:21

      Laaste 11 jaar beker loos! Laaste 21 jaar net 3 Curriebekers Bulle wen 23 Curriebekers van af 1939,die wepe wen 23 van 1914 af. Stormers kon nog nooit n Superbeker wen nie. Jou laaste sin moet lees"most successful provincial franchise in the ANCIETN history ".

      MarkSchrade1980 - 2012-08-08 08:32

      Does it include the years that there was no Final played? I also reckon the Currie Cup has only really been good the last 25 or so years, been more competitive with a greater variety of teams winning which can only be good for SA Rugby....

      harold.lloyd.520 - 2012-08-08 09:05

      Paul, you must be the ugliest supporter in the history of the game.

      steyts - 2012-08-08 09:11

      Die WP is nog die enigste span wat enige bekers gewen het die jaar... Hoeveel bekers het die blou bulle al gewen die jaar?? O ja, NIKS!!!!

      jed.vonallemann - 2012-08-08 09:11

      BlouMasjien , you can't blame province for the fact that Pretoria were to KUK to put together a team before 1939.

      BlouMasjien1 - 2012-08-08 09:20

      condolences cup & vodacom cup. whahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

      skinfaxi.mordor - 2012-08-08 09:24

      Paul do a bit more research and learn what the "Boere Rules" were. Since 1994 most Currie Cups have been won by the team that has been sponsored by the competition sponsor. Go figure. Sport24 does not know there is a Currie Cup on the go. There is no Currie Cup category/ navigation link to it even though they still have a Super Rugby category and link. A news channel that's behind the times...... mmmm.

      jed.vonallemann - 2012-08-08 09:37

      BlouMasjien, The Bulls no Cup bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah......

      harold.lloyd.520 - 2012-08-08 09:39

      Vallem, The Stormers/WP no real Cup bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah......

      piet.poggenpoel.923 - 2012-08-08 09:39

      @ bloumasjien blou johnny... Dit is nogsteeds meer as wat die Bulle omhoog kon hou die jaar... Paul pasop net om nie jou details uit te gee nie nie eers al kry jy 'n mail van die bank af om iets te confirm nie. Lyk my harold bat vir die ander span. Net nou kom hy jou by haha... Rugby nuus dan praat hy oor manne se looks. Pateties

      skinfaxi.mordor - 2012-08-08 09:44

      I think you need to divide your CC history in pre proffessional era and post professional era. In the pre professional era the strength of a team was largely determined by things like army bases etc. Since many players relocated provinces depending on where they went for National Service. Provincial strength was also largely job based. For example in the mid 80’s some Zululand companies like Bell Equipment and Richards Bay Minerals started pumping large amounts of money into Sharks rugby and the team went from being a B-Section CC team to CC winners. Also consider that in the Apartheid era players like Beast, Mvovo and JP would have struggled to make it into the Sharks side, thereby making provinces with large white populations statistically more likely to produce good players..

      harold.lloyd.520 - 2012-08-08 09:47

      No Piet, what is pateties is a union with WP's resources not being able to win a cup for a generation.

      Taurus.Blue1 - 2012-08-08 10:02

      You guys want to bring in the stupid 'condolence's cup', yes the Varsity Cup is nicely situated in the trophy cabinet at Loftus (standing very nicely next to the very shiny S14 cup) PS: the VC is much bigger than the silly ConCup. - geez you guys are silly... reminds me silly school boys, mine is bigger than yours type of talk - silly sooo silly Why don't you just admit to yourself that your team is useless, its a step in the right direction - healing will be much quicker after that

      steyts - 2012-08-08 10:07

      Yes Harold, where you come from a generation is 11 years... Says a lot about the class of the place!! Laerskool kinders is in die moeilikheid daar by julle!!!!

      jed.vonallemann - 2012-08-08 10:07

      Harold the Bull's no Cup at all bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

      steyts - 2012-08-08 10:09

      What is a team then that has lost twice to a useless team in the same competition both home and away... I guess they must be UTTERLY PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!! Well done blue bulls for achiving nothing thus far this year!!! WHAT AN ACHIEVEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:12

      Harold I think you are confusing Paul with Jed von Alleman as the ugliest supporter

      gustav.kriel.3 - 2012-08-08 10:16

      Harold your making my day as always! hahahahahahaha! The fact that a person like you are able to use a computer amuses me to the max! hahahaha... I know by know that your a bull so that makes you a bit mentally challenged..... but i just need to know: Are you 7 years old or just a bit retarded?

      BlouMasjien1 - 2012-08-08 10:16

      conference cup is not a real trophy"Schalk Burger" Meer stormers sal in die Bok span wees as ons begin bekers wen "Jean de Villiers" Snaaks dat 2 Stormer/wp kapteins niks van die "condolences cup" dink nie, maar die ondersteuners glo dit is "The Holy Grail " van Rugby

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:49

      Harold is 119 He watched Tropic Thunder and learnt from Robert Downey Jr, you never go full retard, everyobody knows that!

      carlos.pretorean - 2012-08-08 10:52

      Paul, I'm sure it must hurt really badly to be a WP/Stormers supporter, but please try not to be so subjective when you look at statistics. If you do your research properly, you will see that since the founding of NTvl/Bulls, they have won more Curry Cups than anyone else. It was easy in the early years for WP to win the cup as they only had to compete with the likes of Border to claim the cup.

      harold.lloyd.520 - 2012-08-08 10:57

      Carlos, don't bother. Ha ha ha ha ha classic Nick.

      splatwun - 2012-08-08 23:44

      I don't know where you got your records with NPC, but Waikato IS NOT the most successful provincial side. That distinction goes to Auckland, winning it 16 times out 36 seasons it's been in existence in either format, giving them an overall winning percentage of 44.4%. Using your logic, that would make Auckland the most successful province of all time. But I understand Currie Cup has a much longer tradition than our NPC, which is something I as a kiwi respect.

  • Jacques - 2012-08-08 08:15

    My 2 cents: their problem is psychological. As AC himself said, if you win 14 out of 17 you know how to win. But it's not like they barely lost the semi, is it? 14 points down with 15 to play, that's very inlike them. On the day they were nowhere. Something to think about.

      steyts - 2012-08-08 10:10

      I don't think it is psychological either... The sharks were just a much better team!!! THE END!!!

      press.enter.12 - 2012-08-08 21:55

      I think its genetical - try Achondroplasia . . . .

  • chris.debeer.14 - 2012-08-08 08:25

    Province will not win a Super 15 under the guidance of Allister Coetzee. If you win 14 out of 17 matches and your bonus telly looks like that, there is huge problems with the game plan ! Get rid of Allister and things might change.

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:09

      Go to Japan Allister

  • andre.terblanche.5 - 2012-08-08 08:27

    Het julle geweet dat die huidige kampioen spanne van al die top kompetissies in die wereld deur NZ afrigters afgerig word. Van CC , 3 Nasies, 6 Nasies Wered beker....ens

      BlouMasjien1 - 2012-08-08 08:45

      Ja en die CC afrigter is weg gejaag . . .

      cape.maori - 2012-08-08 09:59

      @Andre- spot on!!!

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:25

      Allister is a Cape Maori and should to go Japan

  • Wesley - 2012-08-08 08:29

    Once again one of the Top teams on the log before playoffs. well done coach!!! one day, juuuust one day. the bounce of the ball will be on your teams side #TeamSA

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:25

      The ball bounced to Japan

  • quartus.vanzyl - 2012-08-08 08:39

    And the big cheque book is out! Buy even more players from smaller unions

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:27

      Japan has a bigger cheque books

  • sharkie.fin - 2012-08-08 08:40

    Almost choked when I read this...

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:27

      ALmost choked on my Nigiri here in Japan

  • newbornr - 2012-08-08 08:44

    Jean:The same procedure as last year, Mr Allister? Allister: The same procedure as every year, Jean! Trophy for none!

  • stompies.hattingh.5 - 2012-08-08 09:03

    Watter JAAR!

  • stompies.hattingh.5 - 2012-08-08 09:05

    "There will be one or two small changes, but we don't need to change a lot," he said. - Jy leef in droomland, man!

  • kevin.wright.58555 - 2012-08-08 09:06

    Allister, please read the coaches' rugby manual - "rugby 101 on how to score tries".

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:28

      I heard that book was lost in Limpopo

  • willy.vanniekerk.9 - 2012-08-08 09:10

    Whether Province won the s15 or not is irrelevant. They were the best team in the conference according to the log, also conference winners 2 years in a row. One can only wonder if behind the curtains there is someting amiss(a couple of cups included). Surely a reift between players and administration takes it toll, look at the lions for instance, the firing of coaches and resignations of players does not stand them in good stead for the currie cup. I see an already strong Cheetahs team being the ones to beat in the currie cup this year.

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 09:52

      It was said in the studio the Stormers will win the Super 15, but they did not. Do the smart thing, don't bet on the Stormers to win anything anytime soon, besides development Vodacom cups and condolence cups. Most of their players should go to Japan because they will be big there. THey should focus on hitting rucks and after the game hit KFC with their big mouths

      willy.vanniekerk.9 - 2012-08-08 10:01

      Dude i am an ardent Lions supporter, however admin in south african rugby will simply not let rugger be rugger.

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:07

      WHat is rugger? I only know about hitting rucks, hitting the studio and hitting KFC family buckets

  • BlouMasjien1 - 2012-08-08 09:15

    Allister in wonderland

  • marschoeman - 2012-08-08 09:56

    I am not a WP or Stormers supporter. They have a good team and a good culture, but they keep on struggling to win any major tournaments. As nice a guy as Allister Coetzee is, it might be a good time to get rid of him. He is a so-so coach with very good players. If anything, he is dragging them down. If the Stormers want to build towards the S15, start by getting a new coach.

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:07

      In my culture, KFC is the real winner Alister Coetzee go to Japan

  • cape.maori - 2012-08-08 09:57

    This guy is building every year!

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:08

      Should go to Japan

      Stormkaap - 2012-08-08 10:34

      Agree with you on this one..He said the same thing last year.Bit of advice for AC 1 If you have nothing meaningful to say..shut up 2 Turn your mouth into actions

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:50

      3 Go to Japan

  • gwvickers - 2012-08-08 10:13

    Can't understand this, every time they lose out in S15, they are building to the next season, by the time they finished they will have built a city

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 10:17

      Maybe Sim City because all their hopes and dreams and achievements are imaginary

  • Stormkaap - 2012-08-08 10:36

    Harold aka TOM TURD aka nick mullet. get a life and use one alias and stop stealing.. You need to tell your employers of you kleppie status

      harold.lloyd.520 - 2012-08-08 11:00

      Sorry dude, got it wrong there.

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 13:18

      Stealing? You mean stealing the ball after hitting a ruck? I work at KFC and I steal family buckets

      Stormkaap - 2012-08-08 14:34

      Kleppie what u need is a lobotomy

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 17:02

      Met eish ja met eish

  • nissen.eugene - 2012-08-08 11:00

    That loser is already making excuses 4 not winning the currie cup we will never win anything with him at the helm

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 14:10

      Nissen you are not allowed to go to Japan and whether or not you hit rucks is irrelevant - you are awesome

  • deon.fouche.3 - 2012-08-08 11:05

    The main problem at Weer Probeer is "Tobi" Titus! He just loves AC!

  • andre.terblanche.5 - 2012-08-08 11:11

    Vissie, jy is reg dit is WP. Onthou NT het eers vanaf 1946 CC gespeel en dit tot nou 22 keer gewen. WP het 12 gewen?

  • johan.vandeventer.58 - 2012-08-08 15:34

    COETZEE why dont u build a bridge all the way out of newlands and get the hell out of there you JOKE of a coach....terrible man terrible coach get rid of him WP...You will not win any trophies with this clown in charge

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 17:03

      he can go to Japan and use Akashi Kaikyo Bridge to get form Kobe to Honshu

  • stormerbandit - 2012-08-08 16:12

    where are the tries

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-08 18:24

      Tries to win Super rugby trophy: endless Number of tries successful: zero

  • john.edwards.733450 - 2012-08-08 19:26

    Yes it take a lot of prep to be such epic chokers

      press.enter.12 - 2012-08-08 21:59

      Coetzee is building Le Grande Choke

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