Spies, Pienaar back for Boks

2010-11-23 13:48

Cape Town - The Springboks restored scrumhalf Ruan Pienaar and eighthman Pierre Spies to the starting line-up when coach Peter de Villiers named the team to take on England at Twickenham on Saturday.

The pair replaces Francois Hougaard and Ryan Kankowski in a team that was otherwise unchanged from the one which lost 21-17 to Scotland in Edinburgh. Hougaard drops to the bench in a straight swap with Pienaar while Kankowski drops out of the squad altogether.

De Villiers said he had dismissed the idea of making wholesale changes. “There is no panic,” he said. “This team has all the ability we need – but what we all know is that we have to execute more accurately than we did against Scotland.

“That game is behind us now but we’ve looked hard at the lessons of it and know that we can’t allow let ourselves to make as many mistakes in our basic execution.”

The Springboks upset many predictions to beat Ireland in the opening match of the tour and followed up with victory over Wales before the four-point defeat to Scotland, who leapfrogged both of their Celtic rivals in the IRB rankings as a result.

The Springboks go into Saturday’s Test having beaten England on six successive occasions but with the home side installed as favourites.

“England have made good progress since they started their tour to Australia this year and will be full of confidence,” said De Villiers. “A full Twickenham will ensure that this is the toughest Test of the tour for us.

“But Saturday’s performance wasn’t a true reflection of the talent in this squad and the players want to put that right and end the Test season on a high.”  


South Africa

Zane Kirchner; Gio Aplon, Frans Steyn, Jean de Villiers, Lwazi Mvovo; Morne Steyn, Ruan Pienaar, Pierre Spies, Juan Smith, Deon Stegmann, Victor Matfield (capt), Bakkies Botha, Jannie du Plessis, Bismarck du Plessis, Tendai Mtawarira

Replacements: Adrian Strauss, CJ van der Linde, Flip van der Merwe, Willem Alberts, Francois Hougaard, Patrick Lambie, Adi Jacobs.



  • nlvvdb - 2010-11-23 13:58

    Here we go again!!

  • bafrank - 2010-11-23 14:01

    Throw Zane out! Play Frans at 15 and Jacobs at 13 or De villiers 13 and Lambie 12 with Frans 15, but Zane must go! Good luck Bokke!

      spooner26 - 2010-11-23 14:10

      he was useless against the Scots and again he will show that he can't play rugby,Again tell me plz what does Stegmann do to diserve his spot

      Graham Carruthers - 2010-11-23 15:24

      I Agree! Stegman must also go with Willem Alberts to take his spot.

      Wayne - 2010-11-23 15:47

      in this Springbok team, all you need is guts, determination, and friendship with DIV an co... to keep your spot!! absolute joke!!

      GraemeBB - 2010-11-24 09:42

      Where Morne - or havent you watched what happens when he is off??

  • Pieter - 2010-11-23 14:02

    What the hell is this idiot trying to prove......maybe how long the same team can play without any injuries? I mean take a gamble while you still can as when the world cup comes there won't be any time for experiments. Wake up De Villiers and smell the Roses!!!!!

      eentyd - 2010-11-23 14:11

      Don't say that, because he might select Earl Rose...

      MB1810 - 2010-11-23 14:42

      I agree, there are guys in that squad that PDV has not even used on the bench, his time for experimenting with young players will be over come Saturday and he would have wasted the perfect oppertunity. We'll get slaughtered in the World Cup, bacause 50% of our team is past retiring age. Willem Alberts has been a lone shining light every time he's gotten the oppertunity to play, yet he still has not gotten a start. Stegman has dissapeared against the class opposition, he's good enough for Super 14 and CC, but I don't think he deserves that spot.

  • eentyd - 2010-11-23 14:02

    Stegmann is just not good enough. Rather play a true fetcher in Daniels. As for Kirchner, well the less said the better... I am so going to hate braaing with my English buddies on Saturday. Thank you PDV for screwing that up as well...

      Dan - 2010-11-23 14:33

      Daniels a true fetcher!!! Hell old boy, you should really get a hoby - rugby is not working for you.

      Preshan - 2010-11-23 14:52

      DAN,Rugby is not working for you either, Who played the best Rugby this Sesson Keegan or Stegmann

      Wayne - 2010-11-23 15:40

      i dont think keegan is a TRUE fetcher, but stegman had 3 good chances to proof himself, and it didnt work keegan, even if just comes off the bench... keegan has a very high work rate...something the bok loose trio could use...whether one is better than the other, who knows... keegan has had the better season so far... but i think keegan would make a valuable contribution

      GraemeBB - 2010-11-24 09:47

      Since when Daniels a fetcher?? Actualy, Stegman is getting better, but is no Brusouw. Why we worried about him, we have far bigger problems in our midfield gentleman.

      eentyd - 2010-11-25 07:58

      Yes Gents Midfield is a big problem but again the selection policy is such that we don't take the best centers along on tour that are fit. The same can be said for the loose forwards. Dan as for you comment about rugby, well each to his own... Try and watch the game on performance and not along provincal line. Louw should have gone along on tour or Potgieter before Stegmann and I don't support either province.

  • Mark Edwards - 2010-11-23 14:04

    15. Fall Back: Lindiwe Sisulu 14. Far Right Wing: Steyn Van Ronge 13. Outside Trader: Trevor Manuel 12. Inside Trader: Pravin Gordhan 11. Far Left Wing: Blade Nzimande 10. Fly Out: Marthinus Van Schalkwyk 9. Scrum Half-Wit: Julius Malema 8. Eish Man: Bheke Cele 7. Flanking: Kgalema Mothlanthle 6. Another Flanking: Tokyo Sexwale 5. Locked Up: Jackie Selebe 4. Locked Up: Shabir Shaik 3. Propvol: Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula 2. Hooker: Hellen Zille 1. Propvol: Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula

      dewaldvn - 2010-11-23 14:11


      AGENT - 2010-11-23 14:20

      If this team that you put together is not coached by Pdiv (dumb ass), they may actually stand a chance.

      ProudExpat - 2010-11-24 02:15


      ray.romans - 2010-11-25 09:20

      Brilliant, except that Shaik will probably release the ball in the tackle.

      Cuzin - 2010-11-25 12:07

      Jy ken jou rugby. Dis mos 'n politieke spel.

  • darren - 2010-11-23 14:04

    In protest to Kirchner keeping his spot in the team i'm off to buy an english jersey for twickenham tomorrow

      darren - 2010-11-23 14:05

      sorry saturday

      Dan - 2010-11-23 15:27

      Maybe you should. Don't think you deserve a Bok jersey. Everyone complains about Kirchner, but he wasn't nearly as bad as some of the other players during the past coule of weeks. Mvovu, Pienaar, Frans Steyn, Kankowski and even old Juan Smith had some shocking performances thses past couple of weeks.

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-23 15:32

      The fans should just stop watching if SA Rugby is going to insist that we support AA-led teams.

      darren - 2010-11-23 16:01

      @ Dan for the second year running have flown to great expense to watch some of the autumn internationals. Agreed Kirchner isn't the only one who has had shocker but when has he ever had a good game in a bok jersey.

      GraemeBB - 2010-11-24 09:50

      Dan - good reply. I agree with you 200%. And even though we are furious, we are still in green and gold. TRUE BOKS

      blessedstarchild - 2010-11-24 11:25

      I am buying an All Blacks jersey. SA jersey represents rape, murder and AA to me.

      AJ Diss - 2010-11-25 07:54

      @blessedstarchild you are an idiot! ... I hope you "ran away" from our beautiful country, we don't need your negativity... But keep your pathetic opinion to yourself.

  • Gustav - 2010-11-23 14:09

    ok, make like an Ostrich, put your head in the sand and all will go away and be okay? no P Divvy, take your head out the sand cause all will not be okay. You can't ignore that this same team (87% of it) didn't pitch for the game last weekend and there was nothing to indicate at any point in that game that they will pitch this coming Saturday. If 2 changes can turn this team around, imagine what 2 changes to the coaches could accomplish!!!

      Wayne - 2010-11-23 15:13

      lol EXACTLY

  • themantshepo - 2010-11-23 14:13

    zane kirchner and ruan pienaar the two worst pathetic useless players in the team here we go again up and under rugby kick the ball away schoolboy nonsense....this ruan pienaar is a dam retard does not know what he is doing same goes for zane kirchner.....although francois hougaard is white he can play and is much better than fourie du preez and ruan pienaar... i wish this ruan pienaar would get a heartattach or fail a dope test or something....hell i dont know what this rubbish is doing in the team

      Wayne - 2010-11-23 15:08

      and i suppose the coaches's tactics have nothing to do with that?

      Baas-Julius - 2010-11-23 15:13

      I agree, Ruan Pienaar is just going to kick out possession away like last week.

      Christo - 2010-11-23 16:54

      Just fire rubbish Div and appoint our white coach Jake White again................. At least our White coach could coach !

      James - 2010-11-23 19:23

      I was just wondering where Ruan should attach his heart to?

      GraemeBB - 2010-11-24 10:23

      Christo - yet again, spoken like a true rugby guru.

  • Facts - 2010-11-23 14:14

    All the “sniffles” gone now Spies, nothing to hide anymore? Very strange that PdV only rested ONE player for the Scotland game I must say. Sad but I am sticking to my prediction; England by 25 – 40. I really hope I am wrong.

      MB1810 - 2010-11-23 14:53

      Have to agree, I'm backing England to win this one too. Either that or SA will have one of those games they have every now and again just to prove to the fans they're not too k@k, a game to build up hopes again and then dash it again in the very next game by losing famously to some second string team, that should never really have been in with a chance to start with.

      GraemeBB - 2010-11-24 09:54

      Facts? Do you actually have factual evidence that Spies is on roids - F off idiot!

  • Johan - 2010-11-23 14:17

    I think we should call the Springboks the Penguines because its white in the middle and black on the wings

      Wayne - 2010-11-23 15:07


      Pieter - 2010-11-24 18:41

      ha ha. good one.

  • Gay69 - 2010-11-23 14:20

    Surely, this is not the team, what are they thinking or smoking! This is totally unacceptable! DIV deserves all the criticism he is getting, how can we play virtually the same CLUELESS team??? England are going to run circles around us, we will be nowhere again, absolutely shocking, but we shouldn’t be surprised I guess.. I suggest All fans get drunk before they watch this game because its going to be a slaughter, then again if we lose, maybe SARU will finally fire the coaches!

      Pieter - 2010-11-24 18:41

      england are not that good... we could easily beat them with a shit team..

  • Gielie - 2010-11-23 14:22

    GH weak team selections. Ruan Pienaar and Kirchner kick valuable possesion away. bafrank's team ia A-Team. I am sure he played better rugby than PdV who played in the Boland second division as the second or third team scrumhalf. WE ARE NOT PROPERLY COACHED!! NO backline moves to the wing. Very weak defensive structures. Wallabies put 40 points on us in a 3Ns first half

  • Dan - 2010-11-23 14:31

    What must the Boks "Execute" Mr. de Villiers? There is no game plan, no initiative, no defensive structure, no planned moves, etc. So what the hell must the poor guys "Execute" better? Again Kankowski gets selected, gets tried and tested, found completely out of his depth, gets left out the very next game - just to be selected for the next tour or Bok squad. Why, Why, Why? Secondly, we are now almost finished with this tour and yet again we saw a number of players playing out of position. Most or all of them performing well below standard. Steyn is not a centre and Lambie is not a flyhalf in wet conditions. Both Lambie and Steyn would have been better options at fullback. The first three tests were quite suited for Pierre Spies to start. England however again is the ideal test for Alberts to start and have Spies as impact player for the last 30min. Now Div went and drop Spies after being Man of the Match, replaced him with Kanko (who we all knew should rather have been Alberts) and then brings back Spies and leaves out Alberts for England. Only Pietertjie knows what the hell is going on in his little mind. No wonder the Boks are confused, frustrated, irritated, constipated and dehidrated. With a coach like Pietertjie, who needs an enemy? I really feel for the players – they don’t even have any dignity left.

      GVA - 2010-11-23 15:07

      And all thanks to the Circus ringmaster Mr Hoskins! Hell I would luv to kick him in the balls!!!!

      Wayne - 2010-11-23 15:09

      i think we have a plan, it just sucks really bad!! there was nothing to execute, it was kick and hope, maybe Div wants them to kick and Chase this week...

  • Lappies - 2010-11-23 14:34

    why drop kankowski. Play the shark players they beat the super 14 finalists in two weeks pierre spies as as bad as the resrt of the bulls Lappies.

      Dan - 2010-11-23 15:19

      Lappies. It is very simple. Read slowly: He is not good enough, has never been good enough and will never be good enough. Now let's see if you can mannage 1 + 1 = ?. Good boy!!!

      Christo - 2010-11-23 16:58

      @Dan - you sound like a sorry half-wit (maybe family of Div) Spies is useless - as is 99% of all Bull players. Kanko is 100% better than what Tarzan Spies ever was or ever will be.So - very slowly to you as well : 1-1=?? ah - bet you will not be able to figure it out

      Jason Aereboe - 2010-11-23 17:16

      @Christo. KanKUKski is that... KUK!!! He dances around the ruck like a ballerina and is definetly not beta than smokin your socks if you think that. True he has a great burst of speed but that's about it.....

      Christo - 2010-11-23 21:05

      @Jason Boet - obviously you know less than nothing about skills, class and rugby. But hey - sounds like you are a fan of the cows, so, keep on living in your dream world.....Spies flops at the basics of the game... Kanko a ballerina?? Well, at least he is doing what he is supposed to be doing, NOT missing tackles, NOT holding on to opponents on the deck, NOT getting isolated.... shall we carry on ??

      GraemeBB - 2010-11-24 10:05

      Christo - I am afraid you seem to be a relative of the snor. Every one knows that Kanko is not cutting it, except you and your buddy Lappies. I like Dan's reply - so get it into your head - he just aint good enough - Spies was man of the match in his last game. All coaches and english commentators rate him - god, arent you boys watching the games?

      Johnny - 2010-11-24 10:41

      CHRISTO..... need to wake up... ...The Bulls have more silverware then you have brain cells....

      blessedstarchild - 2010-11-24 11:22

      Lets not talk about hero sharks players. Lambie is on currie cup level. thats it.

  • Denzil - 2010-11-23 14:37

    Funny....This time i hope we loose with a bang...Cant c how he can play the same backline against England,,,Makes me wonder who is really picking the team...Zane is useless at full back..cant we have a change...while we still have a chance..!!!

      GraemeBB - 2010-11-24 10:06

      Why just Zane - what about our midfield?? Lets move on, Zane wont win or lose us the match.

  • Shayne - 2010-11-23 14:38

    LMFAO JohAn...!!!! Brilliant...!!!!

  • Vincent - 2010-11-23 14:43

    Here comes a hiding! Zane is USELESS. Pienaar as well. How many times is he and Zane still going to kick away possession? Stegmann has done nothing in this team yet. Start Alberts! FFS! How hard is it for this clown to drop the pathetic players. Juan Smith for captain!

      Wayne - 2010-11-23 15:10

      agreed with all except captaincy... V

      Dan - 2010-11-23 15:18

      Funny that you punt Juan Smith after probably his 2 worst games in several seasons. He totally dissapeared in tghe last 2 games, to such an extent that Kobus Wiese & Co on (Super Rugby) even mentioned it.

      Vincent - 2010-11-24 07:09

      Yes, he has disappeared. But Victor has been barely noticeable on the field all year. And there is no one else that is could be a captain in the current team. Victor always makes bad decisions lately, so I would like to see Smith run on as captain for a change. He also seems to play better when he is

  • MB1810 - 2010-11-23 14:49

    My team would look like this: 1. Beast 2. Bismarck 3. Jannie 4. Flip 5. Matfield 6. Daniel 7. Smith 8. Alberts 9. Hougaard 10. Steyn 11. Mvovo 12. Lambie 13. De Villiers 14. Aplon 15. Steyn Bench: Strauss, Oosthuizen, Bakkies, Spies, Pienaar, Jacobs, Jantjies

      Lappies - 2010-11-23 14:53


      Kurt - 2010-11-23 14:55

      I whole-heartedly agree with you on that!

      GVA - 2010-11-23 15:03

      You can put any team on the park but if you have a clown coaching rugby they will only make fools of themselves!

      Wayne - 2010-11-23 15:16

      i like it....

      Facts - 2010-11-23 15:18

      I like your team. Perfect combinations. This is obviously too complicated for PdV and his other clowns to grasp.

      sannahan - 2010-11-23 15:45

      Your team makes sense, but unfortunately you have not appointed a coach, so they will again play CLUELESS because they are COACHLESS. We have the players, but they have really been drained mentally by Oogklappe.

      strydomp - 2010-11-23 15:58

      Sweet. Now add coached by Jake White or Heineke Meyer...

      Julz - 2010-11-23 16:25

      Everyone except Flip, he'l have more of an impact off the bench. Start with Bakkies! If we can all see it why can't Harry die Strandloper de Villiers?

      Johnny - 2010-11-24 10:45

      Jean de Villiers = palooooka.. ...Aplon = palooooka... ...Daniel Keegan = paloooooka.... ...PDV = Paloooka...

  • Preshan - 2010-11-23 14:50

    This Coach is real Sh*thead

      Wayne - 2010-11-23 15:42


  • maria dewar - 2010-11-23 14:52

    England must be smiling right now! The continued selection of Krusty and Stegman convinces me once and for all that Victoria selects the team! In 3 games Stegman has turned over one ball quite an achievement! And Krusty turns the ball over to the other team.

      Wayne - 2010-11-23 15:44

      true that!

  • chrismtb007 - 2010-11-23 14:54

    Pienaar is not a number 9, put him at 15, drop Zane clown head Kisrtner. Spies will come out and show us a thing or two. I still think Hougaard is a better scrummie, he stole 3 scrums man alone on saturday, and P divvy thought he was playing too well and took him off... The coach needs to be replaced, it should have happened right after the tri nations.I predict a huge (maybe even record) win for England, Divvy doesnt know what he is doing, he is a schools coach, not an international coach..... I think our only hope for a win is with the legends, at least they have a real coach, Ian Mcintosh.....

      Wayne - 2010-11-23 16:19

      pienaar is not a number 15 either....

      Julz - 2010-11-23 16:26

      Pienaar is a good 9 he's just following useless team orders!

  • Spyker May - 2010-11-23 15:02

    England 36 : South Africa 0

      Dan - 2010-11-23 15:15

      Ar eyou trying to be funny Spyker May? How the hell do you think the Boks are going to get to 0 points?

      Facts - 2010-11-23 15:54

      Good one Dan.

  • Christo - 2010-11-23 15:11

    What the hell is up with Div?? Everyday he proves more and more the idiot he really is. Spies means nothing anymore, Kankowski is currently by far better than old Tarzan Spies. Morne cannot control his backline, kicks haywire and seems totally out of his depth, Play Lambie! Stegman ahead of Keegan????? Keegan at his worst is streets better than Stegman at his best. Throw Zane out, play Frans fullback and Adi at centre. Zane K has not had one good game in a Springbok jersey. Playing Ruan at 9 while we got the best 9 not even in the squad?? Charl Mcleod should be THE preferred choice at 9.

      GraemeBB - 2010-11-24 10:15

      Again Christo - actualy watch some games, and then pass a comment - I am finished with this guy!!

      Johnny - 2010-11-24 10:48

      CHRISTO, are a pooooophole... ...........Pierre Spies is the best no 8 in the world...!! ...catch a wake up..!! .....and Keegan is NO fetcher....

  • Wayne - 2010-11-23 15:12

    Why put ADI JACOBS on the bench if he isnt going to play?????????????????? poor kanko, he didnt deserve a total drop, he did what he could i guess, besides, who would be dropped to make space for him.... Spies, not MY 1st choice...perhaps Alberts at 8? Lets hope the kick and chase game gets executed correctly this week.....

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-23 15:37

      Because that is how BEE selections work, Wayne. It is why we have so many injuries. You choose players to fill out the squad and them overplay the only quality guys you have because their real successors are in SA. Fourie du Preez's injury is due to Ricky January only being entrusted with 10 minutes per match, EVERY MATCH. They choose them, but can't play them. It is a joke.

      Wayne - 2010-11-23 16:18

      it is a joke....cant believe it!

      Magnoman - 2010-11-24 09:06

      Wayne - you just don't like Spies ... he did have a great game and reward for that is to be dropped ... why ... cause it's against Div's game plan ! :) Kank is a good runner as well why not drop Steg and play him on the flank with Spies and Alberts in reserve.

  • kugesh - 2010-11-23 15:12

    Get rid of Krusty - I say play M.Steyn 12 and Lambie 10. F.Steyn 15. Bring Odwa on for Aplon. Daniels for Stegman.

  • scott - 2010-11-23 15:19

    GOD, HOW WE ARE MISSING FDP, J FOURIE, J SMIT, BRUSSOUW, HABANA, BEKKER, SCHALK, GUTHRO . . . just pray for no injuries before world cup. p divi had a great 2009, lets get behind the team like true supporters. we all hate the english more than even p divi right? dont answer that lol. stegman sux!

  • bill - 2010-11-23 15:27

    We can only pray that England go off the boil after their recent performances , but I wouldn't bet on it.We are going to the RWC with a number of key players past their sell by dates.If Fourie du Preez is not there, look out for Januarie to be our first choice !

      Julz - 2010-11-23 16:29

      That will be the day I completely give up on Springbok rugby..we have three very adequate scrummies in Pienaar, Hougaard and DP!

  • StaalBurgher - 2010-11-23 15:31

    The only wholesale change we need is you Mr de Villiers. The players are just fine.

      Wayne - 2010-11-23 16:18

      Mr. nogal :)

  • Muzi Msimango - 2010-11-23 15:35

    What has pierre spies done wrong this tour........can someone PLEASE explain to me......he even got man of the match in the wet conditionns.................

      Wayne - 2010-11-23 16:17

      uhm where do we start....he misses a lot of tackles, he is not effective at the breakdown, he doenst break the advantage line... do you need more? would pick him ahead of Alberts? its not what he does wrong, its more about what he does right, and lately it has not been much. he is World Class on his day, but he hasnt had one of those days for a while.

      ChumScrubber - 2010-11-24 19:14

      He runs sideways - no use if you're big but you run sideways. If he breaks its fantastic to watch - but other than that he's a bit overrated.

      ray.romans - 2010-11-25 09:36

      @ Chumscrubber. A lot overrated.

  • Mart - 2010-11-23 15:37

    what, so Pienaar can aimlessly kick all our possession away again.... P Diddy must 'duck'.

      Wayne - 2010-11-23 16:17

      remember, this week we will execute better, so this week they will aim the kicks....

  • Dan the Man - 2010-11-23 15:38

    Same gameplan as last week boys - I wonder what the odds are on another end to end try by Ashton? at least I can make some money this weekend...

  • sannahan - 2010-11-23 15:52

    Kick and chase is history. The other teams know that that is our sole strategy. They anticipate our kicks and wait thankfully for the gifted possession. It means that our tight five cannot make an impact. It is really peanuts to work out a strategy when playing the Springboks. It is really mindblowing that this dreadful situation is allowed to continue.

  • Spyker May - 2010-11-23 16:00

    By: P DIDDY Divie. My sung se naam he is “Du Vraagstuk”.., Ek stap in donker strate op soek na ‘n lig Die enigste ligte in die nag is die vure van die hel Wie gaan by my staan in die koue oggend ryp Wie gaan by my staan as die donker sukies inkruip As son opstaan op soek na vars bloed Geen vrae op hierdie antwoord nie... Ons het nie meer die energie nie Ek soek mense wat nie kwaad raak as ek gemors maak nie Ek soek minder wanna bees, ek soek mense met ‘n visie Ek soek een, ek soek twee, ek soek ‘n drie sonder vrae Ek soek ‘n wensmasjien, so as ek vrae is alles klaar daar Geen vrae op hierdie antwoord nie... Ons het nie meer die energie nie Ek is bly dan is ek kwaad Ek is te vroeg en dan is ek te laat Dan sê te veel en dan kan ek nie praat nie Geen vrae op hierdie antwoord nie... Ons het nie meer die energie nie Ag #$$%^! klaar ge-worry.., As jy my soek ek is die ou met die snor by die bar... PS – all credit to: Die Heuwels Fantasties & Jack Parow.

  • buddy jones - 2010-11-23 16:08

    but hold on guys,, who selectes the team?? the selectors hand him (arsehole deV) the team or does he select his team. If so where do the assistant coaches fit in (in otherwords they are just as kak-sleg as he is) ...and to retain some of his players like stegman, even ruaan ,,like he has, baffles the mind ..... (well maybe this will be the final straw in his trying to maintain his post - and he's assistants included) lets hope the're gone after this!!!!!! please

  • Wayne - 2010-11-23 16:22

    if you want to run with the big dogs, you cant piss like a puppy!

      cairnsee - 2010-11-25 12:37

      Kak team kak coach poor resulyts, Not going to make the play offs at next years world cup.Jorrie

  • Johnny - 2010-11-23 16:30

    Go England..!! ...Go England..!! .....PDV (and quotas) sucks..!!!!

  • StBad - 2010-11-23 16:48

    I think it's unfair to make any comment about our players from 12 onwards... they just never get the ball under the right circumstances! The trouble starts at 10 as sadly he's the enforcer of the rubbish game plan burdened onto him by 'the best couching staff in the world'!!!???

  • PANNEVIS - 2010-11-23 17:19

    Prepare for a big defeat on Saturday. Hopefully we will then see them replacing Joker and his merry coaching team.

      cairnsee - 2010-11-25 12:35

      Kak performance , kak coach , NO semis at next years world cup. Jorrie

  • James - 2010-11-23 19:32

    All this talk about who should play and who shouldn't play pale in significance when you consider the real issues - that being the slow demise of our rugby by political intereference and AA appointments. How tragic..My little 5 year old nephew is crazy about rugby and the springboks... I just wonder what he has to look forward to? Perhaps just stories passed down about the once legendary springboks

  • Theuns - 2010-11-24 07:48

    PDV lost an oppertunity to rest the old players to be ready for next years RWC and blood new ones....nothing ventured nothing gained! What a dismal RWC is waiting for us next year!

  • skywalker - 2010-11-24 08:56

    There is no panic...this team has all the ability we need...? That may be the case seen thru your foggy view but I long ago saw the writing on the are out of your depth as a national coach and your gameplan is the honourable thing and step down now taking your useless/clueless henchmen with you if you want to give the Boks any chance of retaining the world cup trophy.

  • Magnoman - 2010-11-24 09:00

    When you turn on the TV to watch this game .... have VERY LOW expectations .... this aint gonna be pretty !!!!!!!!!!!

  • Magnoman - 2010-11-24 09:25

    Has anyone noticed ??? Div looks and sounds just like the monkey you find on top of a juke box. The winder of the handle making him dance and sing - Hoskins ? Come on Zapiro draw the picture !

  • blessedstarchild - 2010-11-24 11:19

    Always headlines about how explosive players will be included. England will rip SA a new arsehole this weekend. Snorre is a clown, I won't hire him to wash my car.

  • lnaude - 2010-11-24 15:01

    Kanko was one of the better players against the Scotts,when is he going to get a decent run as a starter, personally I think he outclasses pick up, run, can't pass, can't tackle Pierre Spies?

  • ouboet - 2010-11-24 18:56

    Some questions re the bench: Why aren't we starting with 2 props on the bench? ...rain, snow and heavy underfoot spells for a lot of scrums no..? Why not start with (in form) Alberts and have Stegman (if you must) on the bench? ... play the more physical flank first - this is what the Poms will be doing! Why even pick Jacobs on the bench if your'e not going to play him... ? - could rather use the extra prop!!!

  • zemoch - 2010-11-25 00:27

    Pienaar?????????????????? WTF???? Three minutes left, we get a penalty and what does he do? KICK THE FREAKING BALL AWAY!! ...but then again, only an idiot like de villiers would let pienaar play again. Please come back Fourie du Preez, we need you!!!

      cairnsee - 2010-11-25 12:34

      This Boks side wont make the Semis at next years world cup. Kak team and kak coach. Jorrie

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