Div's job 'safe'

2010-11-29 10:42

Cape Town - South African Rugby Union president Oregan Hoskins says the are no plans to dismiss Springbok coach Peter de Villiers and his management team for next year’s Rugby World Cup, according to a Cape Times report.

De Villiers has been under tremendous pressure after an awful 2010 season in which the Boks won only eight out of 14 Tests, including two victories over minnows Italy, with last week’s defeat to Scotland in Edinburgh the lowest point of the season.

But after Saturday’s 21-11 victory over England in London, Hoskins said SARU did not intend to replace De Villiers and his management team.

“It was good to end off the season on a high,” Hoskins told the Cape Times from London on Sunday. “I think it was important psychologically to get such a result before the World Cup year, especially as England were on the up and did really well to beat Australia two weeks ago. I felt that the Bok team played to their strengths and we could see why they are the world champions.”

Hoskins was still upbeat about the Boks’ chances of success at the World Cup in New Zealand next September.

“I am thankful to the coaches and the players for their efforts on this tour to the United Kingdom and Ireland,” he said. “It has been a tough year for us all, but this win over England was a good marker for 2011. I am really positive about our rugby and our chances of retaining the World Cup.”

De Villiers will undergo his usual post-tour review upon his return to South Africa. The Boks conclude their tour with a match against the Barbarians, who will be coached by former Springbok mentor Nick Mallett, at Twickenham in London on Saturday.


  • sessisie - 2010-11-29 11:11

    Unconscious incompetence!

  • Rob - 2010-11-29 11:11

    Does Div have no self respect? He is blatantly not good enough for the job but carries on. Like most BEE candidates.

      Johnny - 2010-11-29 12:17

      "Affirmatives" are not fired, ... ..they are promoted...

      James - 2010-11-29 13:39

      he's honestly not clever enough to see beyond his delusions, and when you are protected as he is.... you kinda feel wanted, as bizarre as it sounds

      jws.paterson - 2010-11-30 08:47

      I hope to heck I am proven wrong though.

  • dictator - 2010-11-29 11:14

    With the RWC so close it is better to keep things the way they are.We thrashed the team that thrashed Australia and we performed better against England that NZ I think.If CJ's late(oh..sooo late pass)went earlier the final score would have been 26-6 with a kick to come compared to NZ 26-16.Did you see how the AB's started to panic when wales put them under a bit of sustained pressure???They did not know what to do with the ball anymore.The AB's crack under pressure and they will again next year when the expectations on them will increase the pressure 100 fold.Good luck AB's and the rest....may the best pressure velve win!

      roboman1 - 2010-11-29 12:16

      good rugby comments, I agree with your views. In fact, what I read will now happen is that they will strengthen Div's team with some outside rugby experts, same as they did with Jake White. Thats the way to go. Keep the stability, and yes, the All Blacks always peak to early

      dictator - 2010-11-29 16:46

      Spot on on!

  • Brandon96end - 2010-11-29 11:16

    Not in the best interest of the sport. But obviously that doesn't matter anymore.

  • GBES - 2010-11-29 11:23

    Congratulations Springboks !!!! All these negative guys can go to Australia. We will be ready next year to defend our championship.Jake`s record was worse in 2006,and still coached the Boks to World cup victory. I trust my Boks.

      sessisie - 2010-11-29 11:38

      White inherited a bad team and made them a good team. PdV inhabited a good team and transform them into a bad team.

      chucky - 2010-11-29 11:54

      @ sessisie: why could White not transform a bad Lions team into a good team the way John Mitchell has? is it maybe because he didin't have Eddie Jones

      Dan the Man - 2010-11-29 12:46

      @chucky - white did not at any stage coach the lions team mate - his company did consulting work, identifying both coaching and management flaws. They are half the reason the lions managed to poach mitchell from the force

      Johnny - 2010-11-29 13:33

      Go Aussies.. !! Go Kiwis..!! ......PDV (and quotas) Sucks..!!!

      bbmjames24 - 2010-11-29 15:12

      Yes, cause Jake saw his flaws and was not too arrogant to try something new, unlike PDIV

      daspoort - 2010-11-29 15:15

      @Johnny. Please name the quota players in the team. And then please name a person that should have been there.

      my_story - 2010-11-29 16:20

      @Johnny. I just built this website for you. use it.

  • scott - 2010-11-29 11:28

    IF YOU A TRUE BOK FAN THE SHUT UP AND SUPPORT THE GUY AND THE TEAM. our comments mean nothing and nobody cares what we want. all we can do is show we have the best fans on earth. none of you have even coached an under-5 team anyway. enough with the race issues, jeez. we have had worse coaches with worse stats than div.

  • Kevin - 2010-11-29 11:40

    Typical statement from Hoskins-AA/benefactor!! De villiers and his coaching staff have been found wanting at almost every occasion this season-and yet manage to continue in their posts(pathetic) With the talent pool available in this country the "Springboks" should demolish all teams in front of them- manage to scramble 8/14 games(shocking).What's even more shocking is that the IRB acknowledges the racism that is forced on our sporting code by this ANC government with it's transformation policies,and do not bat an eyelid.Merit and merit alone should determine who play's,coaches and is involved in any sporting code-not qouta's/AA oportunists.Unfortunately Hoskins has soiled is position by not having been truthfull hence his integrity is now challenged!!

  • Vincent - 2010-11-29 11:45

    This just shows they the people in-charge of our team know nothing. That game was a poor performance from both teams. From that display, how can you see why we are the world champs? Shocking. We need to get rid of all of these clowns asap!

  • Claude - 2010-11-29 11:46

    I believe that if the Springboks do not reach the semi-finals at the World Cup then the entire Executive of SARU especially Origan Hoskins must resign as they picked a coach that was clearly a political appointment and who is not good enough. Peter de Villiers has on a number of occasions made SA Rugby and the country look like fools. The SARU executive has consistently refused to do anything about it and therefore should take the blame for any failure

  • Brian - 2010-11-29 11:46

    I am white and not a rugby "boffin". The game I watched on Saturday featured a bok team giving a worldclass performance. They stuck to their gameplan and were huge in defence when an English try seemed inevitable. Admittedly, we had a bad 3 nations, but on the current tour we have only suffered a single loss...against a poor Scottish side that eked out a result in dismal conditions. At this rate, we have only the All Blacks to fear next year, and they looked shaky against Wales over the weekend. I think the boks will gel and give a good account of themselves next year...and all the negativity and armchair coaching will only be detrimental. Please, fellow South Africans, don't try to fix what isn't broken!

      mjmckerrow - 2010-11-29 12:53

      I forgot how dominant SA was over Wales in their game :p

      my_story - 2010-11-29 15:14

      not a rugby "boffin" - so you're saying you have more fun by caring less? that's one way to enjoy sports.

  • GVA - 2010-11-29 11:47

    Saturday’s win cannot be attributed to PDV and his management team! Rather attribute to the players led by Victor Matfield. It was brute force that was used to overcome the English! If you look at the amount of turnovers the Boks conceded, then you have to wonder what the heck they been coached? After the basics, protecting the ball is priority number one!! PDV when first took on the job said he wanted to play more expansive rugby? We are so one dimensional and predictable, and as for creating space and backline moves….. Nonexistent in the present setup!! Hoskins needs a SNOTKLAP!!!!!!

      roboman1 - 2010-11-29 12:23

      Your comments are not well thought through, who selects Matfield and co? PDV and his team. Hoskins has done a great job so far, South Africa has different dynamics compared to other countries, and Hoskins and Div are actually coping quite well. Leave them alone, otherwise we may end up getting people like Malema and Stofile, and then we really will not win a Primary school match!

      GVA - 2010-11-29 12:45

      @roboman1 PDV takes the most talented players in the world and turns them into bumbling buffoons!! If you happy with the downward spiral that the Springboks have been led by Hoskins and PDV then you are not a true supporter!

      roboman1 - 2010-11-30 11:42

      Check your stats, you will find that the much maligned Div has an equitable record compared to the more successful SA rugby coaches

  • bluejay - 2010-11-29 11:48

    victor matfield says he prefers to work under div than jake the snake....enough said!jake will never be part of top saffa rugby again!still koshuis rugby for you jakey!

      my_story - 2010-11-29 14:52

      "victor matfield says he prefers to work under div than jake" - provide a link to back this up. if you don't reply it shows you just made this up.

  • 2coolnick - 2010-11-29 11:52

    bla bla bla....I support my team even if they loose for 10years straight in a row with no coach!! I am a true Springbok supporter!! If you want to fire some one, fire Hoskins.

      roboman1 - 2010-11-29 12:18

      I agree. (I mean I am a Lions supporter, old Transvaal supporter, so I always support, win or lose) And I reckon the Bokke are not far off the mark, maybe Div needs a bit more assistance, like Jake got when he hired an extra coach/consultant, but thats all, Go for it Div! You can do it!

      mike - 2010-11-29 13:55

      you sound more like a WeePee supporter ;) Good on you!!

  • Brian - 2010-11-29 12:11

    I am white and not a rugby "boffin". The game I saw on Saturday featured a worldclass Bok team. They stuck to their gameplan and defended resolutely. I agree we had a bad 3 nations, but on the current tour we have only lost one a poor Scottish team that eked out a result in dismal conditions. All the negativity currently being espoused will not do us any good. Leave them alone...they will do well at the next RWC if they continue like this.

  • RJ - 2010-11-29 12:13

    @Rob "He is blatantly not good enough for the job but carries on. Like most BEE candidates." Does this mean Rudolf Straeuli is a BEE candidate ? He was still given the chance to take the Boks to the World Cup. P Divvy is not doing a bad job at all (64% win ratio). We had a bad trinations this year but a.) the All Blacks are on fire at the moment. (And I dont mind them peaking so early at all) and b.) we are missing Fourie Du Preez big time. Let's give PDivvy a chance at next years WC and judge him after that. "Commeth the hour, commeth the man/ clown."

      roboman1 - 2010-11-30 11:46

      Good cooment here RJ. In fact Jakes record was comparable to Div. So he is not doing to badly. Staalburger, try not cloud your vision

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-30 13:08

      On some of articles they have made a good listing of coaching tenures; Nick Mallet (1997-2000) 71% Jake White (2004-2007) 67% Andre Markgraaf (1996) 61% Harry Viljoen (2000-2002) 53% Rudolph Straeuli (2002-2003) 52% Harry and Rudolph got given the boot with alarity. You will also notice, and this is something I have forgotten but is quite pertinent to this discussion, that Rudolph was appointed the year before the WC. (1) It is quite understandable that they did not want to change the coach again within a year, (2) neither had he been there long enough to say he definitely was useless and (3) he inherited a shambles from Viljoen. So the only clouding is coming from people that try to pretend the situations between White/Straueli and Divvy is the same where all the pertinent factors differ.

  • strawbsj - 2010-11-29 12:18

    What an ass... I actually wished that the Boks would lose just so that maybe Div would get fired. You are not good enough Div. Hopefully the Boks can do great next year in the World Cup without your isufferable voice and wrong interference. You are making the Boks's name gat..poor guys...G-luck Boks!Proud of you for sticking so long with this idiot and still making it.

  • hardus.mynhardt - 2010-11-29 12:30

    Hardus To retain Peter de Villiers and his management team is just another example of ANC politics. Heyneke Meyer was the best man for the job, but I suppose he's of the wrong colour. We will not win the World Cup with them in charge!!!

  • Pothole - 2010-11-29 12:40

    If Hoskins have faith and trust in DeVilliers why talks about a advisory panel. If he is good enough then stick with him and don't look for other people to "bail" him out for the WC. I hope Meyer and Rassie will decline. Meyer for one will have a good argument for being robbed of the job. I wonder what role Div played in the win over England. I guess not much cause the boks simply bullied the Poms of the field with a dispaly of muscle and brawn putting their bodies on the line to save honour. No signs of creative play. The players, and not the coaches, saved the day.

  • Over_It - 2010-11-29 12:46

    bwahahahahaha bye bye world cup. Not just P Div must go, the entire coaching staff with the possible exception of Os needs to kicked to touch. Compare helium to jake as much as you like, the fact is jake did it and helium hasn't and quite frankly doesn't deserve the chance. As for jake emplying the help of eddie jones, this shows he was man enough to admit he needed the help. you think p div is humble enough admit he's out of his depth? we have the players, the super 14 proved that, so what do all you geniuses think the problem is then?

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-29 16:25

      Os and Percy can stay. Although it seems some of the pundits like Gary Gold as well.

  • Dene - 2010-11-29 12:48

    I agree with Rob but dont agree with the BEE story as coaches have been fired for less (ie:- Nick Mallett - who was argurably one of our best coaches). Can we honestly say that PdV has got the best out of the Boks. Can we honestly compare him to the likes of Graham Henry (which is what we should be doing). Lets face it there are much better coaches in the country and Hoskins didnt do PdV any favours by hinting that his appointment was a BEE matter. However that is a side issue. I want to know why the Boks as a team keep making the same basic errors (and we hear the same basic excuses) each time they play. Its embarrssing to watch these guys (who are payed a fortune) and who practise week in and week out, not being able to do something simple like hold onto the ball in a tackle or knock the ball on in a pass. Surely the coach's responsiblity is to bring the best out of the players and develop them. By now we should not even be talking abut basic handling errors. Can anyone honestly say that our backline (the biggst culprits) are in the same league as the AB's. We should be able to compete and dminate the best but at this rate we are all heading for a huge dissapointment. Its good that we criticise PdV as maybe that will force SARU to either replace him or bring in the right people to help him, as his support staff are certainly no better either. I challenge any bok suporter to tell me that they dont cringe each time this man opens his mouth for fear of what he is going to say.

  • my_story - 2010-11-29 12:57

    Anger makes us say silly things. cut out the BEE stuff. cut out the jake white stuff. Bottom line (and it's my story) is that the Springboks are playing boring rugby. there is no finesse and there is no innovation. our national side is falling well behind our club sides and that comes down to management decisions. I can understand that PDV won't step down - who would throw their own salary away. But how does Hoskin's look in the mirror in the morning. If he's so sure of PDV's ability to turn SA into a NZ beating team in the next few months, why doesn't he attach his own job to PDV's. SA doesn't make the WC2011 final then both PDV and Hoskin's go?

  • Spies - 2010-11-29 13:09

    I actually have no issue with them keeping De Villiers through to the World Cup. We can still win the World Cup, IF we don't play against the All Blacks, and IF we don't play against the Wallabies, and IF the teams we face in the semi and final allow our forwards to dominate like they did on Saterday. Our forwards played really well, but as soon as the backs had to get involved the s$#t hit the fan. Let De Villers coach for the world cup, if we are lucky enough to win, then he won't last more than another year, if we don't win, then he will definitely be sacked. We'll have to swallow our pride and accept him until then anyway. I don't agree with some of the comments in this article. If you are a true supporter, then you have the right to point out the flaws in your team. Think about it this way, if you are a parent, you still support your children in their activities, but if they are doing something wrong, then you point it out because you want them to succeed. The Springboks are no different. I am very glad for the players that we won, they put their bodies on the line to secure a physical victory. I am however, not glad for the coach. He is making it more difficult for the players than it should be. With the amount of talent we have in South Africa, we should have won all 4 games by a comfortable margin. The only thing we lack is direction from the coach. Let him have his chance, everything will be proven at the world cup. One way or another.

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-29 13:43

      Unfortunately, nothing will be proved at the WC. Even if we got the best possible coach we would still only be 4/5-1 to win, at best. With Divvy it is more like 8 or 10 to 1. Changing coach does not guarantee victory but it will significantly improve our chances. The problem though with us winning the WC with Divvy is that will serve as some sort of evidence for our racist overlords that BEE is justified, when it is not.

      herald.smit - 2010-11-29 14:55

      We should win our group (D) and New Zealand should win theirs (A), and if we both beat the runners up of pools C [think Ireland] and B[Argentina / England] we meet in the Semifinal.

      herald.smit - 2010-11-29 15:06

      quarters: --------- C1:Australia D2:Wales B1:England A2:France D1:South Africa C2:Ireland A1:New Zealand B2:Argentina semi's ------- C1:Australia A2:France A1:New Zealand D1:South Africa finals ------ A2:France D1:South Africa

      daspoort - 2010-11-29 15:18

      @Staal. Please give me a few reasons (not carachter traits) why you feel Peter d V is a BEE coach and why our chances will improve without him.

      herald.smit - 2010-11-29 15:35

      and then it is off to England to defend our title for a third time in The 2015 Rugby World Cup. This smells like 2007 all over again, and if that's the case - its all good. Remember how they called for Jake & John Smit's heads? they said gary Botha was way better...If the Sharks, Bulls and Stormers have a good Super 15 - we'll be OK, for the World cup - like it was in 2007. If we have two teams in the final again - the world cup is ours to lose.

      daspoort - 2010-11-29 15:38

      @Herald.Smit. Spot on!!!

      my_story - 2010-11-29 16:12

      @herald.smit. there's a lot of 'should's' in your prediction. The only thing we should be sure of is how unpredictable world cups are.

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-29 16:28

      @daspoort; Based on the fact that Divvy will again insist on selecting an unbalanced squad with players like January in the mix. Based on the fact that if there is any change in circumstance the coach won't adapt soon enough. God alone knows what other things will happen but all I do know is that we will continue to stumble from one good game to one hopeless loss/semi-scratched victory. Should I list AGAIN all the crazy decisions Divvy has made in the last 3 years? 1) John Smit at tighthead so that he can accommodate Chilliboy on the bench, destroying our scrum and nearly ending Smit's career. 2) Ricky January in the squad. 3) Selecting Ruan Pienaar at flyhalf ahead of Morne Steyn; because he had to find a reason to let January be scrumhalf from bench. 4) Resulting in FdP having to play 90% (thus very long injury lay off) of every match because January is just not up to it anymore 5) Selecting Adri Jacobs ahead of Jacque Fourie at centre until injury forced the change 6) Earl Rose 7) Not selecting Frans Steyn throughout 2010 (yes he made some handling errors, but he was huge on defense and ideally should be at fullback anyway) 8) Refusing to select Heinrich Brussouw until forced to Schalk's injury/suspensions. 9) Inability to take rampantly successful domestic players and even compete (never mind win) at international level. Hell, I should include; 10) Refusing to select Mvovo ahead of Habana which many have suggested for a while.

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-29 16:30

      Not only that; if our current players we should be winning 80% of our games with only New Zealand pipping us with a 50/50 ratio. People can rave about a 65% ratio but all that means is we are winning less than a qualified coach would be. Just look back at all the crazy substitutions, team balances we've had. If you can't recall that you are indeed blind, or deliberately ignorant.

      daspoort - 2010-11-29 18:34

      @StaalBurgher. All valid points you raise. Especially Ricky January and Earl Rose. On the selection side, I would like to point out that Peter de Villiers does not select the team alone, there is a selection panel. Also, read the following

      James - 2010-11-29 21:32

      @daspoort.I would like to add to Staal's comment.. It is also what Divvy DOESN'T do that makes him so inept... doesn't provide strategy, doesn't provide leadership, doesn't apply logic or rugby nous, doesn't have the players interests at heart (more should have been rested this tour). In short doesn't come up to scratch by a long shot. Moreover his BEE status was admitted by Hoskins from the start.

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-30 13:11

      The fact that he is an admitted BEE candidate should be enough to disqualify him. It is a stated policy of all major sporting codes that political interference is not tolerated... but only if it is against black people in white countries. The hypocrisy stinks to high heaven.

  • Mike@CapeT - 2010-11-29 13:11 I know you are blinkered as well! It was plain to see that the win on Saturday was due to 'guts and glory' by the players. There was little evidence of a real game plan and there was certainly very little evidence of a P Diddly influence. He is well past his expiry date!

  • wesselvosser - 2010-11-29 13:15

    Let the man be. He has the job, now let him do it. Whether he inherited a world champion side or not. The fact still remains that he has the job and no one can take stock until after the world cup. Jake White was brilliant, because he got the opportunity to carry on with his own plan. Let DiV do the same. If he fails, then yes, fire him. But nor yet, let him play his cards at the world cup next year. That is after all what a team gets built up to win. No every tri-nations or a grand slam. But the world cup. Remember that. And lets leave the BEE and reverse rasism BS, support the boks, all of our Green and Gold supporters that are boks down to the bone.

      my_story - 2010-11-29 14:33

      I'm 100% with you on dropping the BEE/racism stuff. Time to move on and let that stuff die with our forefathers. My sadness is for all the oue toppies for whom this will be their last world cup before they pass. I can understand their frustration.

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-29 16:31

      We will leave the BEE and reverse racism if the ANC will do the same.

      my_story - 2010-11-29 17:06

      @StallBurgher. you have some insightful comments above, but they lose any value with me when I read a comment like this one.

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-30 13:25

      But it is the basis of BEE. I can't pretend I am not upset about what BEE is and how it affects so much I hold dear? That would be dishonest.

  • Sh@rks Fever - 2010-11-29 13:27

    Div isn't a great coach but he is a good motivator even if it sounds like he just sucked on some hellium he motivates the guys in a humoristic way. It must be up to the senior players to take us through this World Cup and with the likes of some stars like De Jongh, Mvovu, Alberts in combination with the senior players there is no reason why we cannot take the World Cup. We need 30 players to win this World Cup. I believe we have way more than that to pick from.

      my_story - 2010-11-29 14:29

      are you really sure that a good leader is one that a team laughs AT?

  • Ivan - 2010-11-29 13:36

    What everyone fails to realize is, that Div has not been able to impose a winning game plan. He rode the cusp of Jake Whites management for a while, and now the team has regressed. We cannot compete with NZ as is, and thats why people want him to go. If you want to call racism in that, then youre as big a idiot as Div is. the job should have gone to Alistaire Coetzee with Robbie Fleck as his Backline coach.

      my_story - 2010-11-29 14:21

      I wouldn't let fleck coach my dog. rassie and coetzee *thumbs up*

  • ShowDem - 2010-11-29 14:41

    It's so sad the P Div gets this treatment whether he wins or loses... and lets not kid ourselves why this is happening. I am a staunch rugby supported and have never seen any other coach having to endure this type of abuse from so called "Bok supporters" Straulie, Harry Viljoen and Carel Duplesisand to some extent Jake White rate as the worst coaches the Boks has ever had and they were not ridiculed as much as Div. So what is the difference, oh let me guess he is Black and they are White... And let me wait for the comments to fly about me "playing the race card"... It is what it is... lets not kid ourselves. I face these sorts of battles everyday as a professional and despite what we do and achieve our "white colleagues" always seem to think we here because of AA despite our abilities but you know what I don't give a flying hoot what they think

      my_story - 2010-11-29 15:25

      yes you do, otherwise you wouldn't have shared it with us. Thanks for sharing, professional 'ShowDem'. Do you honestly think the springboks fielded the best possible team at the last tri-nations? and played the best style of rugby we could play after we owned the super14? ...or do you not really watch that much rugby, but felt like having a Monday rant?

      daspoort - 2010-11-29 15:40

      @my_story. Where did we loose the Tri Nations you think??

      my_story - 2010-11-29 16:06

      @daspoort. as in life there is no single silver bullet. a combination of what we, the public, watched. and what went on behind closed doors. what we watched was (a) bizarre team selection (b) a game style that was out-dated and didn't make use of the new rules and (c) a coach who made comments that were embarrassing and blindingly arrogant.

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-30 13:54

      The issue is not that he is not white, it is because from the start everyone knew he was a BEE selection; ahead of a more worthy white option. So, yes, if people are more vocal, it is because the very basis for his selection was racist and flawed. If he was a merit appointment then he would get less stick. There is also the aspect where we are all panicking because we can see no matter what he screws up he won't get fired. We are stuck with an incompetent. At least with the white coaches they were fired within 2 years; thus no need to panick and freak out.

  • Dene - 2010-11-29 16:21

    Im sorry but I dont agree with ShowDem on the race issue. I have watched the media tear into each Springbok coach with gusto & glee (and this isnt right), which is one of the reasons that Harry Viljoen left & Straueli (believe it or not) wanted to resign as his wife & family were subject to much ridicule. I agree that Div is facing a lot of pressure (and probably more than most coaches) but he has brought this on himself. He isnt a good coach. I want us to win and frankly to humiliate NZ in their own backyard. But I cant see this happening if we keep playing like a bunch of donkeys. There are huge question marks about the boks manner of play that need to be corrected. Lets leave the race card and focus on the rugby issues. If SA can win in NZ - this will have hugely postitive spinoffs for the country - but we cannot achieve this with the current coaching setup. Each test the Boks turn up and put their bodies on the line (ie:- Victor playing with a broken rib) & we should have a captain at the helm that can command respect - but our captain (coach) seems to have gone awol a long time ago. As a proudly South African bok supporter I want us to win and win well - not keep listening to the same crappy excuses each time there is a test match. The fact that PdV attracts such criticism is not good for SA Rugby and the powers that be should have the balls to replace him, afterall national prestige is at stake and that is more important that the colour of ones skin.

  • Danie - 2010-11-29 17:24

    You all are clowns on here......!!!

  • franssmith100 - 2010-11-29 21:26

    PDV inherited a team that was the CURRENT world champions. When PDV took over the Springboks, the last season stats under Jake White was 2007 - 14/17 = 82.35% winning ratio? It immediately dropped by 13% under PDV (2008 - 9/13 = 69.23%), then again by 2% (2009 - 8/12 = 66.67%), then again by 9% (2010 - 8/14 = 57.14%)?

  • Adrien - 2010-11-29 23:17

    I really don't mind if we lose a match here and there, but I dont like to feel that we are running round the field like headless chickens.We have a great depth of players in most positions and if you take the Sharks, bulls and stormers we have 3 or more world class contenders for every spot on the field. It is just because of the talented players we have that gets us wins in most matches.not the stratergy and gameplans. That is where the coaching staff and advisors are supposed to add value. If you watch the All Blacks play you will see military like discipline and stratergy. They have McCaw and Thorn who are stars but the rest are just good players executing a stratergy with precision. That is why if a team like the French are unpredictable the ABs crumble because their plans can,t be executed. If we want to win this next world cup we need to have some stratergies that stop the other teams executing their plans and patterns and make them play our game not theirs. I do not belive Div has the basic IQ or rugby acumen to come up with the necessary stratergy. He needs help urgently.And We never need to see January and Rose ever pull on a Bok jersy again. It is decisions like that , that prove the low IQ of our coach.My wish for Christmas is that Hoskens appoints a couple of world class advisors to "assist" Div in the run up to the RWC. Not some half baked losers who add no value.Take the best talent in this country and let them reach their potential.

  • Nick Schuster - 2010-11-30 06:52

    It's sad to say but the Barbarians are going to run away with this game. It is going to be hard to watch. The Barbarians versus the All Blacks would have been a better choice. My prediction would be at least by 30 points for the B's.

  • khoisan xx - 2010-11-30 10:30

    anc rules this country and only we will decide who gets fired in this country!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Hayden - 2010-11-30 12:18

    Gentle Jesus meak & mild. Look upon a little child.............. "Please remove all the coaching staff of the Springboks" & replace them with literate individuals that wears the country badge in there heart!

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