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Mulaudzi, Khotso shoved aside

2009-08-25 13:53
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Mbulaeni Mulaudzi and Khotso Mokoena (Gallo)

Johannesburg - South Africa’s superb performance at the World Athletics Championships was almost completely forgotten on Tuesday when the team returned from Berlin.

Men’s 800m gold medalist Mbulaeni Mulaudzi and long jump silver medalist Khotso Mokoena, were shoved to the far right of the head table as the Athletics South Africa (ASA) press conference turned into a political circus.

The likes of member of parliament Winnie Madikizele-Mandela and ANC Youth League president Julius Malema, led the support of South African golden girl Caster Semenya, who clinched gold with a stunning performance in the women’s 800m final.

Thousands of people turned up at the airport to congratulate Semenya and give the 18-year-old their support in the midst of an ongoing gender controversy.

But while Semenya was welcomed home with open arms, there was a distinct feeling that South Africa’s other two medalists had been all but forgotten.

While no other athletes reached their finals, the medal-winning trio placed South Africa ninth on the medal table, a marvelous performance that ended the nation’s six-year dry run at the global showpiece.

But with the IAAF having performed gender tests on Semenya on the eve of the championships, much of the focus on Tuesday was on the youngster, with Mulaudzi and Mokoena mentioned as little more than an afterthought.

ASA again stood firm in their support of Semenya, saying that her human rights had been violated.

“We did not just call upon the ANC,” said ASA president Leonard Chuene.

“We called upon all the leadership in this country to receive these children (athletes).”

Chuene, who resigned from his place on the IAAF council after the governing body ordered the tests on Semenya without ASA’s permission, slammed the IAAF for questioning her gender.

The IAAF has never once claimed that Semenya is a man. There is suspicion, however, that she could be partly genetically male and have a physical advantage over other female athletes, but Chuene said they had no right to test the world champion.

“Let me warn professors and scientists that the only scientists I believe in are the parents of this child,” Chuene said.

“One scientist from a stupid university somewhere is going to erase the entire life of this girl.”

The IAAF is still awaiting the results of the tests but Chuene refused to clarify what the process was or what would happen depending on the results.

“Why should we worry about other people’s tests?” Chuene said.

He also sent out a warning to the IAAF not to punish Semenya.

“We are here and one thing they mustn’t do is suspend her.”

 

Your Comments

Dropping in9/15/2009 11:02 PM
Listen those coments of Chuene just sounds like he knows she is violating rules and that he knew about this saga even before going to the games!!!!. You Really sound guilty bra The blame should go to ASA or Chuene !!!1 and Realy dude can you try and prepare some speach next time or somthing case really ....... and congrats on the other two medalist I think you did great!!!!!!!!!
Niki8/26/2009 9:31 PM
Dawn wa Lesele, about your questions: Athletes have often been tested in early stages – at one stage such tests were mandatory for Olympic participants even before their events. Random tests in the off-season are commonly carried out on athletes. As for the broadcast on Supersport, I was out of reach of television at the time, but I’ve often heard commentators make similar comments, and never considered them anything other than appreciative of the quality of the performance. As for my being emotional about my ancestors, my reaction on learning that I had non-European ancestors was emotional, but fascinated and excited, rather than negative. Lastly, please don’t call me miesies, a term with which I am really uncomfortable.
Proudly white8/26/2009 7:02 PM
Winnie(gravy train), Julius(no balls) and Leonard(ranting) Chuene, You have just condemned Caster to yet another political football. If the chinese and east Europeans had to undergo tests at the highest level and the female weightlifters, the same routine, what makes Caster any different ? That she is black - shame !!! If Caster wants to be the best, then prove she is no only all woman but at least, mainly woman.Three times the normal levels of testosterone already prove an unfair advantage. The three stooges above should rather concentrate on what they know best - to toyi toyi and leave sport to sportsman and women.
White South African8/26/2009 6:56 PM
Ha Ha.Idiots.I'll wager none of these dimwit politicians watched any of the athletes events. Well I did and all I can say is thanks Malaudzi for one of the best races of the whole event.Guts determination and spot on tactics right up until the last gasp lunge that got him over the line.
Dawn wa Lesele8/26/2009 3:50 PM
@ Niki, you are correct. Africans have had better succes at tracks than Europeans & gender tests have been conducted on athlets. However, have athlets been publicly humilated in the qualifying stages by foreign media houses that an athlet may not be female but male? Has the IAAF publicly insisted on gender testing prior to an athlets major race? Mario Jones was tested after her races. Why is Semenya treated differently? I'm sure you heard it for yourself while watching supersport how the commentators went about the she is running with such ease and thus creating a foundation for questions to be asked. Chuene is emotional. Won't you be emotional if you were told that you are not white but that your biological father is black? Think about that miesie.
Dawn wa Lesele8/26/2009 3:48 PM
@ Niki, you are correct. Africans have had better succes at tracks than Europeans & gender tests have been conducted on athlets. However, have athlets been publicly humilated in the qualifying stages by foreign media houses that an athlet may not be female but male? Has the IAAF publicly insisted on gender testing prior to an athlets major race? Mario Jones was tested after her races. Why is Semenya treated differently? I'm sure you heard it for yourself while watching supersport how the commentators went about the she is running with such ease and thus creating a foundation for questions to be asked. Chuene is emotional. Won't you be emotional if you were told that you are not white but that your biological father is black? Think about that miesie.
Niki8/26/2009 2:12 PM
If Chuene and Malema had done their homework, they would have known that a number of female athletes have had their gender questioned and tested in the past - and that most of these were white. They would also have known that black athletes, far from being marginalised, dominate track events. However, why let the truth stand in the way of a nice racist conspiracy theory if it can be bent to give new life to a flagging political career? No wonder all the usual suspects turned up again, the brouhaha probably causing poor Caster Semenya much more humiliation than she would have suffered had the investigation been conducted quietly, out of the public eye.
Niki8/26/2009 2:05 PM
If Chuene and Malema had done their homework, they would have known that a number of female athletes have had their gender questioned and tested in the past - and that most of these were white. They would also have known that black athletes, far from being marginalised, dominate track events. However, why let the truth stand in the way of a nice racist conspiracy theory if it can be bent to give new life to a flagging political career? No wonder all the usual suspects turned up again, the brouhaha probably causing poor Caster Semenya much more humiliation than she would have suffered had the investigation been conducted quietly, out of the public eye.
Joe8/26/2009 1:19 PM
The usual hired mobsters were at the airport, most likely the greater part did not have a clue why they were there. And then the likes of Winnie and Malema have to comment that there were no whites....imagine you are a champion and you have someone with the background of Winnie welcoming you home......I would rather be tested as a man than been seen together with Winnie or Malema. This shows the world how SA has been run. And not surprisingly the SA government does not learn a thing from it, worse they fall over each other playing the race card. They must not think for a second that a gender test done by Winnie, Malema or Chuene will be acceptable by the IAAF. And after this foreseeable disaster, the World Cup 2010 is at the horizon which in Europa it's nearly on a daily basis in the news concerning the safety of the tourists next year, where ambassadors are questioned about the safety problems in SA and those reports are not too pleasant. Of course the ANC can shout that those racists should stay overseas, but someone is going to pay for the empty seats in the stadiums, because the FIFA etc. will have their share of the money, which will be billions of Rands, already in their bank account before the World Cup even starts. And seeing the price of the tickets one has to pay for overseas exchanged into Rands, it means that there is already now a huge deficit because of the cheaper tickets sold in SA and of course the thousands of tickets free of charge to the so-called unpriviliged and ANC / Government, because don't think that they will pay for anything in their life. But than again, no one in the government would care about that, the bill will be passed on to the taxpayers in SA, who on top of it will be shouted at labelled as being white racists.
CONCERNED8/26/2009 1:12 PM
what is wrong with defending the poor young woman who was publicly humilated like that? i know her victory has been turned into politics than sport but u left my least favourate Malema no choice. In Africa we do not check if a child is female or male by testing the composition of hormones only the genitals tell so those who has nothing 2 say and who are jealosy of an African woman winning should "adapt or leave" this is Africa and we are not gouing another discrimination on our own land. To Mbulaheni ri di tongisa nga inwi.
Joe8/26/2009 12:48 PM
The usual hired mobsters were at the airport, most likely the greater part did not have a clue why they were there. And then the likes of Winnie and Malema have to comment that there were no whites....imagine you are a champion and you have someone with the background of Winnie welcoming you home......I would rather be tested as a man than been seen together with Winnie or Malema. This shows the world how SA has been run. And not surprisingly the SA government does not learn a thing from it, worse they fall over each other playing the race card. They must not think for a second that a gender test done by Winnie, Malema or Chuene will be acceptable by the IAAF. And after this foreseeable disaster, the World Cup 2010 is at the horizon which in Europa it's nearly on a daily basis in the news concerning the safety of the tourists next year, where ambassadors are questioned about the safety problems in SA and those reports are not too pleasant. Of course the ANC can shout that those racists should stay overseas, but someone is going to pay for the empty seats in the stadiums, because the FIFA etc. will have their share of the money, which will be billions of Rands, already in their bank account before the World Cup even starts. And seeing the price of the tickets one has to pay for overseas exchanged into Rands, it means that there is already now a huge deficit because of the cheaper tickets sold in SA and of course the thousands of tickets free of charge to the so-called unpriviliged and ANC / Government, because don't think that they will pay for anything in their life. But than again, no one in the government would care about that, the bill will be passed on to the taxpayers in SA, who on top of it will be shouted at labelled as being white racists.
Niki8/26/2009 12:36 PM
It is touching to see how sensitive Messrs Malema and Chuene are about gender issues, even if they seem unable to distinguish between a grown woman and a little child. Now if only more men in high places would devote equal energy to other issues of concern to women, such as the fact that South Africa has the highest rate of rape in the world...
Obakeng8/26/2009 12:04 PM
Our country has been through much pain and we don't need this now. it is unfortunate that people who are supposed to calm the country and say "DO NOT PANIC", our fuelling this matter. We have a tendency of being emotional and fail to allow processes to unfold. If we are confident that our girl is a girl, why this performance and insults to other races? relax guys, she is a girl.
dalet8/26/2009 10:17 AM
Malema and ol' Winnie and the rest of their crowd have just proven, by way of their behaviour, that they are really 300 years behind educated civilised people. We as South Africans all support the black girl. You're trying to hide your incompetence behind the racial card! Mr Zuma is doing a good job in fueling the racial hate in this country by not shutting Malema up!
dalet8/26/2009 10:16 AM
Malema and ol' Winnie and the rest of their crowd have just proven, by way of their behaviour, that they are really 300 years behind educated civilised people. We as South Africans all support the black girl. You're trying to hide your incompetence behind the racial card! Mr Zuma is doing a good job in fueling the racial hate in this country by not shutting Malema up!
Louisg8/26/2009 9:00 AM
The all of South Africa agrees....!! Semenya was treated wrongly By the IAAF. Zuma,Malema,Winnie are right to support Semenya, as all South Africans should, Chuene is covering his incompetence, with racist rhetoric and dragging the whole of South Africa into a fight we do not want to be in..! If you want to compete in a First World competition and earn top dollar... you must obey the rules...!! Nobody forced us to enter the competition...!! Mr Chuene, Why did you accept the test in the first place? Should have objected then!!
Kampala8/26/2009 8:57 AM
Honesty 2:10 pm & 5:16pm........You need to take a chillaxitive....
Gustav8/26/2009 8:51 AM
Wasn't there other athletes as well and didn't we win some more medals, even another gold if I am correct. What a shame these other athletes weren't allowed their moment. I am embarresed to be South African
michael Dibodu8/26/2009 8:46 AM
this blog has ben created for all the wrong reasons but with time people will change maybe not in our lifetime but do we really have tobe attacking each other like that because of what julius said,why can't we put julius there and we all go for him to prove him wrong,why is it now a black and white thing?change will come and for better both black and white.
Thivha8/26/2009 8:20 AM
Mmbulaheni we are proud of you, ri di tongisa nga inwi, make use of all this opportunities.
whyRacism?8/26/2009 8:09 AM
I don't understand how the ANC can put the word racism in the same sentence as gender? This has nothing to do with race, no-one brought it up, except for the ANC. How can we put racism behind us when the ANC use it as their only defence in everything that goes wrong. So please ANC stop the RACISM, and put the focus on the GENDER issue. I am all for Caster, but not for the way the ANC or ASA is using this as a tool to promote their political views and agendas in the international arena. I could bet you my years salary that no-one at IAAF even brought this up, not even behind closed doors.
whyRacism?8/26/2009 8:07 AM
I don't understand how the ANC can put the word racism in the same sentence as gender? This has nothing to do with race, no-one brought it up, except for the ANC. How can we put racism behind us when the ANC use it as their only defence in everything that goes wrong. So please ANC stop the RACISM, and put the focus on the GENDER issue. I am all for Caster, but not for the way the ANC or ASA is using this as a tool to promote their political views and agendas in the international arena. I could bet you my years salary that no-one at IAAF even brought this up, not even behind closed doors.
Truth8/26/2009 7:47 AM
The great mistake that IAAF commited was to publicise the issue. Should they had met with ASA and Caster behind closed doors and explain the situation and how it should be addressed, we would not be in tis situation. Take the race card out
@mabhuti8/26/2009 6:01 AM
At least someone thinks about the next generation!!! Thanks my friend, it's the few people like you (a much too small minority unfortunately) that keeps the dim hope alive that I may bring my daughter back to the country of her birth one day. I have unfortunately lost all hope of that ever happening, but I whish for your sake that you pull off the impossible...
@Honesty8/26/2009 12:15 AM
You like so many of the other poor mentally oppressed people in our country are so deluded by the fact that your party will always look for something to "struggle" with...thereby programming your rather dimwitted minds to the fact that you can still look at white people as better off than you...this while that fat black (oh previously disadvantaged) cats are rolling all our country's finances and rewards into their billion rand bank accounts...Situations like this make me laugh out loud at the absolute dispicable behaviour of the ANC...using this as a race war to keep the struggle going...you moronic twits...there is nothing racist about this...in the 70's woman at the olympics had to stand naked to be inspected by gynies....with the money and fame that is available in international sports governing bodies have to to enforce rules that ensure a level playing field for ALL...The IAAF were shocking in the way they handled this situation...but make no mistake ASA are a bigger bunch of turds for letting this situation excalate to where it has....As for you morons that buy into this crap, perhaps nature will do us a bigger favour in future by giving us something better than swine flu to get rid of you...stop breathing, you are using up my oxygen
PhD 8/25/2009 11:58 PM
Now you must understand why affirmative action must stay on until 4040! Until blacks majority of blacks can accumulate enough, no stop to AA. whites must understand what it means to be not having and be treated bad at the same time.
Barend8/25/2009 11:13 PM
Racism has nothing to do with the issue. When you compete at the highest level, and you perform well, there are some tests that will be done regardless of your sex or race. I have competed internationally in other sports, and doping tests happen all the time. Doping tests arent pleasant - the official needs to see your urine enter the testing container. No room for personal modesty, but you trust the sports association to keep all information confidential. The same goes for gender tests - female east European weight lifters undergo such tests regularly. Do they blame the black president of the IAAF? No, they take it as part of sport at the highest level. The only mistake in this whole issue is the lack of confidentialy from IAAF, and the amateur response of ASA. An experienced administrator will have seen this coming, but Chuene tries to mask his incompetence with a lot of political hot air, hot air which will harm Caster's career - without IAAF support she wont get the golden sponsorships. At the very least, appoint an experienced media liason person to act as her spokesperson, and coach her in public speaking. Get Winnie and Julius away from her, they know nothing about the competitive world of international sport, and by association Caster gets a political label without being able to choose. Everyone has an opinion but no-one is helping her in a real way to cope.
Pila8/25/2009 11:12 PM
Racism has nothing to do with the issue. When you compete at the highest level, and you perform, there are some tests that will be done regardless of your sex or race. I have competed internationally in other sports, and doping tests happen all the time. Doping tests arent sublte - the official needs to see your urine enter the testing container. No room for personal modesty, but you trust the sports associations to keep all information confidential. The same goes for gender tests - female east European weight lifters undergo such tests regularly. Do they blame the black president of the IAAF? No, they take it as part of sport at the highest level. The only mistake in this whole issue is the lack of confidentialy from IAAF, and the amateur response of ASA. An experienced administrator will have seen this coming, but Chuene tries to mask his incompetence with a lot of political hot air, hot air which will harm Caster's career - without IAAF support she wont get the golden sponsorships. At the very least, appoint an experienced media liason person to act as her spokesperson, and coach her in public speaking. Get Winnie and Julius away from her, they know nothing about the competitive world of international sport, and by association Caster gets a political label without being able to choose. Everyone has an opinion but no-one is helping her in a real way to cope.
Jackson8/25/2009 11:00 PM
Semenya is what God created her to be. What ever the racist IAAF says, Semenya remains a true human being and true women. What matters is that South Africa, her home country, is proud of her. Sister, stay positive. You are what you believe you are.
Chris8/25/2009 9:43 PM
Congrats to the SOUTH AFRICAN medal winners... awesome stuff. On the flip side, I have never been so embarrassed to be a South African than when I saw Chuene at the press conference. Is this really what this country is coming to? What a shambles!!
Luca Nkosi8/25/2009 6:37 PM
Why do women compete in a field without men? It is because men are genetically advantaged. The scientific community has a legitimate argument that Caster appears to have more male genes than her peers and, therefore, an unfair advantage. However, Bolt is too clearly genetically advantaged compared to his own field of men. Should Bolt be tested to see if he is a super hero?
Ivan Moor8/25/2009 6:16 PM
Am I racist because I see and admire the abilities of black athletes? They seem to be genetically superior to caucasians in running and jumping, no question. Pure observation.Rhythm too, and jazz. Really talented.. Pity they do not score so highly in the intellectual domain. I guess they will blame this deficiency on Apartheid. .
richard8/25/2009 6:09 PM
"I'm not a RACIST!!! I'm just real!!! And BY THE WA... i have white friends.....and I speak to white ppl at work!!hahahaha!! Does that ring a bell!!! UNTIL WHITE PPL ACCEPT & ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE SICK.......WITH RACISM !!!!! BUT NO, THEY REMAIN DENIAL ABT IT!!!! THEY WILL ALWAYS BE!!!" Say no more.... No. I will. As an ex S African living abroad, I can honestly state that the diatribe above illustrates so clearly what is wrong with some of the citizens of SA. It is depressing and manic, to say the least. (Rabies springs to mind)
Charles8/25/2009 5:48 PM
What's the fuss now?S/he has competed in other WOMEN international competition recently without any problems.Leave her alone to enjoy her victory!
Charles8/25/2009 5:46 PM
What's the fuss now?S/he has competed in other WOMEN international competition recently without any problems.Leave her alone to enjoy her victory!
MD8/25/2009 5:32 PM
Another political rally. Is it how we are going to deal with this issue in our country? Congratuations to all winners. The family must not allow to be dragged into political circus. Welcome to South Africa. Winnie said no one will do test on Semenya. Unfotunately the test has been done. Was it another political blunder?
Charles8/25/2009 5:30 PM
What's the fuss now?S/he has competed in other WOMEN international competition recently without any problems.Leave her alone to enjoy her victory!
HONESTY8/25/2009 5:16 PM
I'm not a RACIST!!! I'm just real!!! And BY THE WA... i have white friends.....and I speak to white ppl at work!!hahahaha!! Does that ring a bell!!! UNTIL WHITE PPL ACCEPT & ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE SICK.......WITH RACISM !!!!! BUT NO, THEY REMAIN DENIAL ABT IT!!!! THEY WILL ALWAYS BE!!!
HONESTY8/25/2009 5:11 PM
I'm not a RACIST!!! I'm just real!!! And BY THE WA... i have white friends.....and I speak to white ppl at work!!hahahaha!! Does that ring a bell!!! UNTIL WHITE PPL ACCEPT & ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE SICK.......WITH RACISM !!!!! BUT NO, THEY REMAIN DENIAL ABT IT!!!! THEY WILL ALWAYS BE!!!
denis8/25/2009 5:09 PM
We will only finally emerge from our shared painful past when all of us, black and white, realise that we are on the same side. Yes we often differ in our interpretations of events, and yes sometimes we all get angry about this or that. But at the end of the day we are all South African and that is more important than race or politics. Mulaudzi, Mokoena and hopefully Semeya have all made us proud. We should focus our anger on whoever leaked the gender testing issue to the media, and not on each other. The IAAF has the right to investigate, just as it has investigated several white athletes in the past, but it should have been done quietly and discreetly. If our politicians are so certain of the outcome they should wait for the results with dignity before having so much to say. Random accusations of racism just make us look like idiots in the eyes of the world - has anyone asked the African Americans, Jamaicans and Nigerians who dominate many athletic events whether they also think its a racist plot? Has anyone noticed that South African whites cheer just as loudly as anyone else when African athletes win or when African rugby players help tear up the Poms or Australians?
Proudly South African8/25/2009 5:01 PM
Plz beautiful South Africans lets not thorw racial comments to each other because Racism is something of the past. Instead we should be celebrating the victory of our athletes from the World Games. Wther u re white,black,indian or coulored, we are all SOUTH AFRICANS. VIVA BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE OF MY COUNTRY
Rocsta8/25/2009 4:55 PM
Well done to the whole SA Athletic team who represented us and to Khotso,Mulaudzi and Mokgadi u roc!Lets hope they'll be another repeat of this in the both the world championship and olympics.U really made us proud. As for Khotso and Mulaudzi, it wasn't fair at all to be shoved to the side.Such things shouldn't happen at all and turn the welcoming into a political arena.,...eish.I understand the anger but they supposed to be focusing on every athlete who presented SA.Interesting part about this saga is seeing men especially supporting Mokgadi....wow! However, i'm just disappointed with some of the comments.Why is it each time, one has to pull out the race-card when voicing their views.Honestly, it's just annoying and immature as we supposed to be focusing on the article.People we supposed to be together and clearly shows there are individuals who don't know the meaning of that.Lets just move on and stop hanging unto sinister things which r no use asseblief!
Kevin8/25/2009 4:53 PM
Only someone who has never been to a universtity would call a scientist from one stupid. Chuene - what a muppet!
Joe8/25/2009 4:53 PM
Why don't they test Malema? They need a sample of his brain tissue,but there isn't enough.
alan8/25/2009 4:48 PM
Black racism is alive and welll in this country and has replaced apartheid. Its cool to be a black racist because you can claim to be a victim too. With all that blaming and entitlement, it is so much easier to blame others instead of taking individual responsibility. The Caster issue is just a hook on which SA blacks hang their sense of entitlement and victimhood. We will forever be plagued by these socio-cultural attitiudes....For that long will Africa be a relative - globally speaking - backwater of crime, corruption, disease and racism.
chris8/25/2009 4:42 PM
could they not have firstly welcomed ALL of the athletes and congratulated them on a supurb performance...when will we ever have a double again (800m CHAMPIONS).. i think everyone has missed the *&%"#'@....can sport not be JUST SPORT
Nell8/25/2009 4:40 PM
Sipho-...Typical!
BAAS8/25/2009 4:37 PM
Where are the days when we were still called BAAS!!?? Those were the days, my friend, I thought they'd never end.............They should test Malema, I am sure he is a girl, no evidence of balls
Jeff8/25/2009 4:29 PM
I will die from laughter if Caster Semenya turns out to be a dude. Have any of you heard her speak? And that hairstyle is not fooling me!!
Mor Mash8/25/2009 4:27 PM
Well done to the three medalist and the rest of the team that went to represent us.Im also disappointed that they only focused on Caster.I watched the media briefing and Winnie just went on about Caster and were she comes from.Mbulaheni Mulaudzi also comes from Limpopo and he is doing well for someone who comes from the second poorest province in the contry as Winnie put it.I bet you she didnt even know were he came from.And the money from the ANCYL well the only explanation for the Semenya and Mulaudzi prize money differance was that its women's month and she deserved more,otherwise i dnt see y there was a difference since they both won gold medals.As for Malema i wil rather not even start.....
Mor Mash8/25/2009 4:27 PM
Well done to the three medalist and the rest of the team that went to represent us.Im also disappointed that they only focused on Caster.I watched the media briefing and Winnie just went on about Caster and were she comes from.Mbulaheni Mulaudzi also comes from Limpopo and he is doing well for someone who comes from the second poorest province in the contry as Winnie put it.I bet you she didnt even know were he came from.And the money from the ANCYL well the only explanation for the Semenya and Mulaudzi prize money differance was that its women's month and she deserved more,otherwise i dnt see y there was a difference since they both won gold medals.As for Malema i wil rather not even start.....
Oops8/25/2009 4:25 PM
Funny how they can always call the racist cards. Pusheng the "men" aside to focus on the "lady". We are not making rasicst comments, but surely have sexist motivations. Well doen to all three athletes! Let's get the test results and move on. Suppose no matter which way the tests goes, somebody will be upset. Qoutes will be interesting. And last but not least, thank you politicians for turning this into cheap publicity for your own gain and thanks to Chuene for embarrasing us!! All I want is a place where all this can disapear and all be equal! Fortunately there is such a place!
Palesa8/25/2009 4:24 PM
Clem, I personaly would have loved to go 2 the airport to welcome the athletes, unfortunately the whole event was turned into an ANC rally. I am sure all SAfricans of al races would have done likewise.
Oops8/25/2009 4:22 PM
Funny how they can always call the racist cards. Pusheng the "men" aside to focus on the "lady". We are not making rasicst comments, but surely have sexist motivations. Well doen to all three athletes! Let's get the test results and move on. Suppose no matter which way the tests goes, somebody will be upset. Qoutes will be interesting. And last but not least, thank you politicians for turning this into cheap publicity for your own gain and thanks to Chuene for embarrasing us!! All I want is a place where all this can disapear and all be equal! Fortunately there is such a place!
EH8/25/2009 4:20 PM
Amazing how people with chips on their shoulders from all sides of the spectrum always use the race card. Blaming race for the hoo haa is laughable as black athlete have always dominated the track events. Why should the world not accept Semenya. To our athletes.... well done. To Chuene, Malema, Manyi and all the others you need to free yourself from your poor self image and stop blaming race for every problem
mabhuti8/25/2009 4:19 PM
@honesty - honestly speaking you're stupid. i'm black and i'm a proud South African. What really pisses me off about my country are immatured idiots like you who always try to drag the nation down with the issues of race. Please South Africans, let's grow up for the sake of our next generation.
Chimboro8/25/2009 4:18 PM
Politicians trying to up stage the real winners, climbing on the band wagon like a bunch of baboons making international asseholes of themselves. why can't they let the athletes get the glory. any excuse to be on TV, run down the whites, run down the IAAF anyone to disguise their incompetence. Blacks are TOTALLY racist all of them it seems, when their incompetence shows through they pull the race card. wankers . Blacks ALWAYS see the negative so they can gain mileage and attack anything that make them look good ..its a good thing they are testing the athlete because there will never be another accusation again if she is cleared. that's better for her than all the speculation and negative media attention she is getting...no wonder the world dislikes SA blacks, they are a bunch of moaning whinging incompetents who will never get anywhere
The test8/25/2009 4:18 PM
What happens if the tests come back and she is a boy???
Filamon8/25/2009 4:18 PM
yeah you are so right Malema and the ANC, we whites ARE racist because of people and organizations like you. What are you going to do about it, BECAUSE you know......I HAVE MY HUMAN RIGHT AND I AM WHITE!! I like living in the land of milk and honey. VIVA! AMANDLA! FOR THE WHITES!
DDW8/25/2009 4:13 PM
Why so aggressive Mr Chuene? The only representative of the IAAF I saw on TV was (oops) a black guy! The real issues are if there was a problem before and what did YOU do to resolve it & protect Caster. To tell the IAAF they may not suspend or punish her is childish & evading the issue at hand. At least Julius Malema had an opportunity to change feet again!
tired of cheats8/25/2009 4:11 PM
So like South Africa!!! Ignore the real champions (Mbulaeni and Khotso) in favour of the cheat. No real surprise there. To all of you who have been fooled, the truth will come out. This person is not a women and no amount of worshipping her will change the fact. Stop hiding behind racism, envy, bigotry - call it what it is: plain unadulterated CHEATING.
tired of cheats8/25/2009 4:11 PM
So like South Africa!!! Ignore the real champions (Mbulaeni and Khotso) in favour of the cheat. No real surprise there. To all of you who have been fooled, the truth will come out. This person is not a women and no amount of worshipping her will change the fact. Stop hiding behind racism, envy, bigotry - call it what it is: plain unadulterated CHEATING.
Martin M8/25/2009 4:11 PM
Caster is a girl, Mr Chuene and President Julius Malema supported Caster please: GET USED TO IT
Segodi8/25/2009 4:10 PM
This article is racist to say the least, it doesn't make a difference that it was written by a black journalist, he or she is working for white propaganda media. The so-called DA Youth, where are they, Julius was right all along that there's nothing like this, DA Youth, I now understand why he couldn't attend that talk show with them, they could be elevated. I'm quite certain that had it been a white girl who achieved this much, DA and all other racists neo-liberal organisation would have gone to OR Tambo. I'm sure they are dissappoined that is only Africans who have won, where are they? ANCYL is doing the correct thing to motivate our young people, you earn omeny after working hard, thanks Mr. Malema for your thoughtfulness.
Wake Up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!8/25/2009 4:10 PM
Julius/Winnie/Chuene Do you really that as a white person I spend my whole day dreaming up reasons as to why any black person who does well should be held under suspicion. Wonder why white people are not cooking up a reasons to doubt Hezekiel Sepeng Hendrik Ramaala Makaya Ntini Bryan Habana Mauladzi Moekena ect ect ect and then why racist europeans spend Millions to watch the likes of All the Kenyan Distance Runners All the Etheiop Distance Runners All the Jamaican Sprinters All the American Sprinters LEWIS HAMILTON TIGER WOODS USAIN BOLT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (If you didnt notice this, the last 3 names are POSSIBLY THE THREE BIGGEST SPORTS STARS IN THE WORLD) And all the other millions of black superstars who grace the international sporting world. Could it be that white people are not as racist as you may think?????????????????
Bermuda8/25/2009 4:09 PM
How ignorent and pathetic are these people. If Usian Bolt decides to compete in the women's events next year, we are not allowed to question it, because it would be racism. Was it rasist to beleive that Marion Jones used steriods. No it was because of the way her body developed. Wake up SA, this is not the first gender probe ever. There have been issues in the past, and the IAAF are just doing what needs to be done. If you want to compete at a world class level, you will be tested for whatever reason. If you don't want to be tested, stop competing. Chuene and Semenya should be happy to do the gender test, to clear the allegations once and for all. If they don't do it now, the question will always be out there. I feel sorry for Mulaudzi and Khotso. Mulaudzi was never one of the favourites going into the final, yet he ran a gutsy race and won against a superb field of athletes.
Sad :(8/25/2009 4:01 PM
It is a sad day in SA. Our politicians has managed to steal the glory from TEAM SA and turned it into a black/white issue.
MMAHULO8/25/2009 4:00 PM
@ALL: WE DONT WANT RACISM IN OUR COUNTRY. YOU BE BLACK OR WHITEM, WE ARE TIRED OF RACISM AS SOUTH AFRICANS. YOU ARE NOT TIRED OF IT THEN GET THE HELL OUT! YOU ARE NOT A PART OF US. SOUTH AFRICANS ARE PEOPLE CHARACTERISED BY UNITY AND A QUEST FOR PEACE IN OUR DIVERSITY. WE ARE A PEOPLE... CONGRATS TO OUR ATHLETES, YOU GUYS DID US PROUD. PROUDLY SOUTH AFRICAN!
Mjita8/25/2009 3:57 PM
Ms Semenya is a paid up member of the ANCYL. I do not find anything wrong when President Malema welcome her back home. Good people of SA when will see appreciate the achievements of fellow South African and club together when facing a threat to your dignity. To our athletes I say keep your heads up. HALALA
sipho8/25/2009 3:57 PM
found it funny when a white person earlier called malema a racist.i mean what are south african whites world famous for?haha..leadership from the broad spectrum was called and i guess some were not interested which is not surprising
Baas Piet8/25/2009 3:55 PM
Oh the politicians are ruining it again for everyone. What does Winnie know about athletics anyway? Most of our "leaders" are so fat it's sickening. You know what they about blacks - once they start living the high life the first thing to go is the waist line. Uncivilized is an understatement.
confused8/25/2009 3:55 PM
This poor girl is now caught up in the biggest mess you can imagine, Chuene, is going to blame anybody but himself, he stuffed up by not handling this correctly some six weeks ago. The ANC? are showing their true racist colors, led by that plonker Malema if this were a white girl having these issues i wonder if they would have shown such support??? Somehow doubt it. Not to worry, carry on playing the race card guys, "you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time!!!"
Christelle8/25/2009 3:55 PM
Addressed to "You Idiots" - you poor soul. Why would the black and coloured DA members be what-ever it is that you call them. Your type my friend, makes racisim stay alive in our beautiful country. As for our 800m winner - well done girl. You and our other two medalists make us very very proud. Keep your chin up - when do we see a new world record from you?
mm8/25/2009 3:53 PM
Can't believe these guys....turn everything into sh1t. We are being ruled by a bunch of ill equipped mamparas.
confused8/25/2009 3:53 PM
This poor girl is now caught up in the biggest mess you can imagine, Chuene, is going to blame anybody but himself, he stuffed up by not handling this correctly some six weeks ago. The ANC? are showing their true racist colors, led by that plonker Malema if this were a white girl having these issues i wonder if they would have shown such support??? Somehow doubt it. Not to worry, carry on playing the race card guys, "you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time!!!"
Mike8/25/2009 3:51 PM
Why don't they also test Julius Malema??
OT8/25/2009 3:50 PM
White media??? This article was written by an african person. Does it really matter who writes it? So why blame the whites?
Jerry8/25/2009 3:48 PM
@ Honesty Get out of Luthuli house playroom and get a real job.By the way,why did uJulius not give you off to go to the airport with the rest of da gang.
Carl8/25/2009 3:47 PM
@ Not racist, realistic - Oh please, if you want to call me a racist, please can we meet somewhere and discuss it face to face. The reference I made to the two above individuals are based on their statements and not their colour. I am also of the opinion that Hitler, Tereblanche and a couple of other whites gave the Evolution party a skip. It seems that white people will never be able to say anything about a black person without being called a racist. Go figure....
Elton8/25/2009 3:45 PM
I love this. I support the lady and do believe that if the tests needed to be done then so be it. ASA cocked up and when they were shown to be incompetent they resorted back to the ever faithful race card. Any time an African is criticized they play the race card and people back off. At least the rest of the world is now seeing what the rest of us have to put up with on a daily basis and will sympathise with us a little. I have nothing against any person who does what it takes to succeed, just like this young lady did, but i do have an issue with idiots that don't do their jobs and then hide behind racial issues to cover up how useless they really are. The world can feel my pain a little now. Welcome to Africa :)
Nico8/25/2009 3:45 PM
The sad thing is that these idiots' involvement in this circus is starting to make me wish that the tests do prove she is a man just to throw a big fat pie in their faces....but that would be unfair to Caster, who made me so friggin proud as a South African. I just wish all politicians would fall of the face of the earth and let normal people just go about their lives. Oh and @Honesty and the other bandwagon'ers...stop being such nepotistic "Ja Broers". That's exactly the f'ed up sentiment and way of thinking that made the Apartheid Machine work so well. Think for yourselves for a change.
Bold8/25/2009 3:45 PM
Again the bigger picture is totally missed - always focussing on the small trivial things in life like who's black and who's white - it looks to me that the feeling of inferiority is BIG - please get rid of it and make the country work!
Nico8/25/2009 3:44 PM
The sad thing is that these idiots' involvement in this circus is starting to make me wish that the tests do prove she is a man just to throw a big fat pie in their faces....but that would be unfair to Caster, who made me so friggin proud as a South African. I just wish all politicians would fall of the face of the earth and let normal people just go about their lives. Oh and @Honesty and the other bandwagon'ers...stop being such nepotistic "Ja Broers". That's exactly the f'ed up sentiment and way of thinking that made the Apartheid Machine work so well. Think for yourselves for a change.
Disappointed Athlete8/25/2009 3:36 PM
The truth is we have been let down by ASA president Leonard Chuene. He should have known that this great win by Semenya would cause some concern. If the necessary test were done before hand, there would not be this situation. To play the race card and resign shows a total lack of maturity. So to answer Honesty you have been let down by Leonard Chuene. If he had athletics at heart and not party political agendas we would all have been able to enjoy the win.
You Idiots8/25/2009 3:36 PM
You DA morons! You blame the ANC for showing up with the welcoming party at the airport. If not them then who? Where was your pathetic DA (oh ja, Zille doesn't do women, I forget)!!! And it's a damn shame how you talk about the ANC as if it's all_Blacks. I can call you lot all idiots coz I've no doubt in my mind that the Black/Coloured DA members are all a bunch of royal a$$es!
LOPEZ8/25/2009 3:35 PM
Point of correction JR. Racism is not only black to white or white to black. Racism can be white to white and even black to black. What we need to do is to support our Winners that is all.
Thandi8/25/2009 3:33 PM
The ANC is giving money to the medalists. Mulaudzi also got a gold medal in the 800m, so why doesn't he get the same as Caster Semenya? Will someone please ask the moronic Malema to explain?
jonny a8/25/2009 3:33 PM
why must there always be so much emotion- you can hardly blame people for having doubts and the IAAF have a right to protect fairness like they do with doping- saying you only trust the parents as scientists is naive and close minded- anyway we will always see a glaring weakness in those people who use the race card, as a pathetic inability to offer good argument or merrited difference of opinion. debate should always be welcomed(democracy i think they call it)
Come On8/25/2009 3:31 PM
These tossers in government need to realize they are not the rulers off the world. They might get away with race remarks and threats in SA but they not intimidating anyone outside our country. Well done Semenya, Mulaudzi and Khotso... It's just a pity these fools are stealing your show!
Mike8/25/2009 3:30 PM
Its a pitty becuase the BEST medal here is that of Mulaudzi. He ran and won a very hard and competative race and did so as a real man in a male race! :) Oh yes I am white but just love athletics so much I wont allowe tha racist Malema stop me from supporting our Athletes! Note not white or black, just plain athletes. There is only one racist here and that is Melema! Well done to our REAL medal Winners. And for those who thing thier dumb comments matters outside of SA, think again! We are nobodies in the big wide world out there!
Theo8/25/2009 3:30 PM
We used to look foolish in the eyes of the sporting world in the days of apartheid. These new political jokers make us look stupid and ignorant. What farce these outstanding performances have been turned into by these silly little politicians. Shame on them.
Kenroid8/25/2009 3:28 PM
I was actually left dumbstruck by the stupidity that is Chuene! @ Honesty = WHAT?!?! If she is genetically male then she does have an advantage over the other women! I don't see any females running the 100m in 19.19 just yet. Why does this have anything to do with race?!?!
Theo8/25/2009 3:28 PM
We used to look foolish in the eyes of the sporting world in the days of apartheid. These new political jokers make us look stupid and ignorant. What farce these outstanding performances have been turned into by these silly little politicians. Shame on them.
Mr Washington8/25/2009 3:27 PM
I say Big up to all the politicians and everyone who took their time to welcome our heroes and stand to support our own beloved semenya in the midst of controvesy regarding her gender, Big up guys
mick8/25/2009 3:27 PM
Shurely this is about gender and not race? AND the ANC has clearly stated that discrimination on grounds of gender is unlawful. Now lets see the minister of gender equality talk its way out of that!
@HONESTY 8/25/2009 3:27 PM
Stop your hate speech. Every person regardless of their colour agrees what transpired was despicable and totally unacceptable. For the record racism is not an exclusive "whites only" thing. Your prejiduce comments are the purest form of racism. Catch a wake up!
Webb8/25/2009 3:24 PM
Honesty your racist ramblings are pathetic. Your little white bashing outburst is probably more typical than we would dare to believe. Unleashing your venom on whites because the IAAF asked for a gender test on Caster is simple racism. Racism is not the sole domain of whites, but belongs to all morons like yourself who generalise hate against a race - Oh and just by the way, many other (predominantly) white east european female athletes have been asked to do a gender tests in the past without the asociated racist accusations. For heavens sake grow up.
Falcon8/25/2009 3:23 PM
Mokoena and Mulaudzi should get just as much credit, so that we can forget about this gender issue with this Semenya chick. Bringing politicians into it just makes the situation worse. She probably has an unusually high amount male hormones and knew nothing about it because she came from a rural area. That's the sad part...
Excalibur8/25/2009 3:23 PM
Populist twaddle from politicians. Everyone who knows nothing about sport will love you but everyone else knows that you cannot make it stick. They WILL suspend Caster. Then what? She loses her career anyway. I think it is called farting against thunder, and it does the gilr no good at all. Look after HER interests, not your own.
Let EVERYBODY be equal!8/25/2009 3:22 PM
Dear Mr HONESTY, yes you are right the country are led by Racists. Zuma are the biggest one. Would the ANCYL given R60 000 to an gold medal athlete if he/she were white?
Steff8/25/2009 3:22 PM
The politicians are idiots Nobody is winning when everyone is losing and in this scenario absolutely no one is winning. So sad but welcome to South Africa
No comment8/25/2009 3:21 PM
This crap is not even worth a comment......
Martin M8/25/2009 3:21 PM
This is sad that in S.A. 15years into democracy someone can vomit just because the political leaders happened to support the young Caster, Miss or Mr I have no words you have to be ashamed to your racist-self, grow up. in 1995 when the S.A. rugby team won the world cup I was also young when we celebrated along the streets of Durban CBD and Nelson Mandela was leading the celebrations nation wide, same thing in 2007 I was lucky this time because I am working for SAPS I was among the Men in blue who was with our rugby team, and Sbusiso Ndebele the then Premier on KZN was leading the celebration in Durban, please answer me did you vomit or you only vomit if they give support to black sportpeople. This is the new South Africa let us all work together in building a non-racial country. I for one will never vomit if Helen Zille comes and give support to the Boks team because she will be representing me as wel.
vleis8/25/2009 3:21 PM
I wonder what racist excuse is going to be used in the soccer world cup if we underform ?
Chris G8/25/2009 3:21 PM
Since when did WInnie Mandela or the ANC have the authority to take away freedom of the press?? Is this a sign of things to come?
realist8/25/2009 3:20 PM
As a South African, who happens to be white, my immediate support was with Caster when the storm broke. It still is but I have to add that she is the only person acting with dignity in this saga, unlike those a,,,,,,,s who call themselves politicians. Never mind that dic.....d Malema, the unfortunate part is that he is the future. God help SA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steff8/25/2009 3:20 PM
The politicians are idiots Nobody is winning when everyone is losing and in this scenario absolutely no one is winning. So sad but welcome to South Africa
@ HONESTY8/25/2009 3:20 PM
Oh my word, why on earth must you always make this a race issue???? I am a white South African male (this should make NO difference) and am VERY proud of our athlete's. I'm the one that sits on the edge of my seat urging them on!! This is a gender issue NOT a race issue. I will support our athlete's no matter their race or gender. I like the way Chuene has been so outspoken on the issue however the things he says makes South African sports management look pathetic! HONESTY it sounds like you need to have a careful look at yourself and the way you view white South African's! I see you as a fellow South African, shouldn't you do the same?
Tyreburner8/25/2009 3:19 PM
Maybe Darwin was on to something after all...................................
Eish8/25/2009 3:19 PM
I felt bad fer her when I first heard about this after her win. But with the last couple of days of Racist allegations Etc. I am starting to wonder if they are not trying to create this whole smoke screen because they have something to hide... Sad
JR8/25/2009 3:19 PM
This idiot who is in charge of Athletics in SA needs to check the charters of the IAAF. Calling them Racists when their leader is black, claiming that human rights were violated etc etc. Wake up, this sort of rhetoric means nothing in the world outside SA. There was some doubt about the gender and as with the Chinese athletes at the Seoul and Beijing Olympics, they were tested in accordance with the rules. It is the same with dope testing. It is part of the rules and has sweet B All to do with human rights, racism or any other description that is used to inflame feelings. As a former member of the IAAF, Leonard Chuene should know the rules. Personally I am getting sick and tired of these black racists that shout racism etc whenever a negative comment is made about someone who is none white and in the same sentence make racist comments about "white media". Check the facts, most media is managed/owned by blacks
MikeyMike8/25/2009 3:18 PM
YAWN!!! Same ol crap. I feel more compassion towards Mbulaeni Mulaudzi and Khotso Mokoena for being pushed aside. They to brought home medals, and the press conference was held in bad taste due to the crap...sorry...UTTER CRAP that can spew from Malema and Co. Honesty (2:10pm), you right, Racists do rule here, last time i checked the ANC was ruling. If there is nothing to hide, why not have the test done and prove to everyone that she is just good. This is not about black or about a black person who beat white people or that blacks feel inferior or what ever, this is about GENDER TESTING and to be honest i believe the politicians involved here (Malema, Winnie, Chuene etc) are using this as a opportunity to cause K@K but in turn are just making there names and S.A ASS, A question to everyone getting their panties in a twist about the test - If it was a white women and a black official said he wants her gender tested, would it be alright then for every white person to stand and say he is racist. YES or NO
MOKOKO8/25/2009 3:17 PM
Does it matter?
Basie8/25/2009 3:17 PM
@honesty You are so right because at least the white people WORK while the rest is on strike
JR8/25/2009 3:17 PM
This idiot who is in charge of Athletics in SA needs to check the charters of the IAAF. Calling them Racists when their leader is black, claiming that human rights were violated etc etc. Wake up, this sort of rhetoric means nothing in the world outside SA. There was some doubt about the gender and as with the Chinese athletes at the Seoul and Beijing Olympics, they were tested in accordance with the rules. It is the same with dope testing. It is part of the rules and has sweet B All to do with human rights, racism or any other description that is used to inflame feelings. As a former member of the IAAF, Leonard Chuene should know the rules. Personally I am getting sick and tired of these black racists that shout racism etc whenever a negative comment is made about someone who is none white and in the same sentence make racist comments about "white media". Check the facts, most media is managed/owned by blacks
EmTee @ HONESTY8/25/2009 3:17 PM
The biggest racist here is Malema, saying that I as a young white South African don't support our national athletes. Others imply that I as a white South African would rather not have a South African win than have a black South African win. How bloody rediculous is that? Screw race and screw these politics that are taking the limelight from the athletes! They are performing for the country. Why do we always have the same politicians making a noise at such gatherings? Why are they allowed to make such a noise??
tsh8/25/2009 3:17 PM
i was watching this live on enews this morning and all i could think was seriously??? seriously is this really happening? wow is all could say......... congrats to all the athletes!
Captain8/25/2009 3:16 PM
Everything is governed by rules, but I suppose the African way is to make up the rules as you go along. If this person falls outside the rules then there will and should be consequences. This is not the SA governments were every one breaks the rules and get away with it.
Jr8/25/2009 3:15 PM
This idiot who is in charge of Athletics in SA needs to check the charters of the IAAF. Calling them Racists when their leader is black, claiming that human rights were violated etc etc. Wake up, this sort of rhetoric means nothing in the world outside SA. There was some doubt about the gender and as with the Chinese athletes at the Seoul and Beijing Olympics, they were tested in accordance with the rules. It is the same with dope testing. It is part of the rules and has sweet B All to do with human rights, racism or any other description that is used to inflame feelings. As a former member of the IAAF, Leonard Chuene should know the rules. Personally I am getting sick and tired of these black racists that shout racism etc whenever a negative comment is made about someone who is none white and in the same sentence make racist comments about "white media". Check the facts, most media is managed/owned by blacks
Basie8/25/2009 3:15 PM
CIRCUS UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH WHAAAA
Jimbo8/25/2009 3:15 PM
“Let me warn professors and scientists that the only scientists I believe in are the parents of this child,” What are you warning them about? What are you going to do? Go and kill them? “One scientist from a stupid university somewhere is going to erase the entire life of this girl.” Have you been to university Chuene? With utterances like this, I wouldnt think so. “We are here and one thing they mustn’t do is suspend her.” Again, what are you going to do, Chuene? You're a frikkin retard and you're giving the rest of South Africa a bad name. Shame on you. Idiot.
Frances8/25/2009 3:15 PM
I am thrilled that Messrs Mulaudizi and Mokoena did so well in their events. They have proven their consistency and hard work by achieving over a period of time. Goodluck to Caster Semenya, I hope she also proves her "mettle" over time.
tsh8/25/2009 3:14 PM
i was watching this live on enews this morning and all i could think was seriously??? seriously is this really happening? wow is all could say......... congrats to all the athletes!
MMA8/25/2009 3:13 PM
Typical who are the ones who always seem to use the race card on every situation possible. It's Damn pathetic!!
PROUDLY WHITE8/25/2009 3:13 PM
Honesty @14h10 Yes my colour-bewizzled friend, this country IS ruled by a bunch of racists!!!!!!! When last I looked the miracle is still eluding us; - the ANC is still the government of the day. DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MA8/25/2009 3:13 PM
How did this sporting matter turn into a political / race issue???!!!
HB8/25/2009 3:13 PM
A political circus again, what else is to be expected. Thank you for the entertainment.... Viva ANC.
Fota8/25/2009 3:13 PM
Clearly it is not about Caster any more but rather about obscure little politicians with their own little publicity campaign. Shame, as if Caster does not have enough problems without these political leaches bleeding her. And then what about Khotso and Mbulaeni - also fantastic performances and they are just ingored because the leaches cannot suck any life out of them. The whole thing is nauseating. Let the girl go home to her family, give Khotso and Mbulaeni their dues. If Winnie and Malema don't have anything better to do they should resign their positions and go home.
Ang8/25/2009 3:12 PM
Where is the Facebbok page to congratulation these 2 men. Well done boys we are proud of you. (By the way why did Mbulaeni Mulaudzi not get the same as Caster - wow don't we credit people equally)
Shameful8/25/2009 3:12 PM
Semenya is a great champion and deserves the support of our people. To protest against how the IAAF has acted is right, but through the appropriate channels. It is sad to see how our so-called leaders and political figures yet again embarrass themselves in the international community by turning this into a political circus. Claiming that the IAAF are racist and sexist is complete nonsense, has no basis, and discredits all South Africans. Proof yet again that Malema and co. belong in a zoo; they should be ashamed of themselves.
Mokoko8/25/2009 3:12 PM
Who is the author of this story? What is s/he trying to achieve by mentioned less attention to Mokoena and Mulaudzi. I guess the author is white or black but trying to be white.
thabo8/25/2009 3:11 PM
TYPICAL WHITE MEDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU HAD TO SAY SOMETHING BAD ABOUT THE ANC!!!!!! NOW YOU CALL THE WARM RECEPTION AND SUPPORT FROM ANC LEADERS "POLITICAL CIRCUS" YOU JUST NEVER GIVE UP DO U?????????
Embarrased again!8/25/2009 3:11 PM
Of course it's a circus! Head clown Malema is involved! We must look like such idiots to the rest of the world. Instead of Helping Caster Semenya, all they are doing is constantly fuelling the flames around her. I hope she stands strong, no matter what.
Gary H8/25/2009 3:10 PM
Why cant politicians stay out of sport instead of hijacking it and using it for their own agenda. Shame on you! What about the other 2 medallsist and the rest of the team? I am sure Semenya feels like a pawn and yet again the race card is played. I am so sick and tired of it, grow up and move on! I supported all our athletes black or white, durring the world champs, but it leaves me sick to the stomach that their moment of triumph is highjacked!
patrick8/25/2009 3:10 PM
Dear Honesty You are honestly the stupidist person in South Africa. You would definitely fail your blood test. Oh no wait.......Chuene is even more stupid than you. My goodness.....Malema is the the king of stupidity. Why don't you all take your racist crutches and hobble down the path of self pity to obscurity. Your inferiority complex is the size of Table Mountain!
GeePMB8/25/2009 3:10 PM
The politicians again jumped on the band wagon. Malema shouting his vile mouth off and Winnie looking for a photo opportunity. I am glad that Chuene is standing by his athlete and rightly so, but for heavens sake, stop crying racism. Humiliation and sterotyping is what is is. Most South African's have acknowledged her feat and praised her. However our politicians again are flogging the same old racism horse.
Logs8/25/2009 3:10 PM
"...the only scientists I believe in are the parents of this child” Chuene, you are a disgrace to South Africa. If Semenya has nothing to hide, why the panic? Even when she took part in sports in her school days, her gender was questioned by other school reps. Ask her mother.
Gatvol8/25/2009 3:09 PM
I wonder who paid for the transport carting 1000's of ill-informed morons to the airport ? It's sad that people with braincells have to share space on this earth with idiots such as those who supposedly run this circus. NO NORMAL SPORT IN AN ABNORMAL SOCIETY - a slogan that should be brought back and used against these monkeybrains
Palesa8/25/2009 3:09 PM
It is a pity this event was turned into cheap polical circus by the ANC. This was supposed to be a special day 4 all SAfricans to rejoice the achievements of all athletes.
HB8/25/2009 3:09 PM
A political circus again, what else is to be expected. Thank you for the entertainment.... Viva ANC.
South African8/25/2009 3:08 PM
@HONESTY – you are the only DUMB SH1t racist here. god YOU people need to get over yourselves. dont you think its about time you found something or someone else to blame rather than the white man. why dont you go on strike or protest this, seems thats all you idiots know how to do. as a sportsman that has competed at the highest levels i was nothing but proud of this GIRL. you clowns are the ones that are taking everything away from her by turning EVERYTHING into a racist issue. get over yourselves already. the whites are not the enemy, YOU ARE YOUR OWN WORST ENEMY! We are not all racist like you!!!
Who what?8/25/2009 3:08 PM
This too must be because of apartheid. It's the ONLY explination, for EVERYTHING!
chazza8/25/2009 3:08 PM
whilst i am sure we all agree that semenya has been poorly treated (as discussed in previous threads the IAAF should have handled this completely differently) i dont see why the gravey trainers like Winnie/Julia et al should get involved. Let the tests come back and take it from there, trying to avoid all the mud slinging. The IAAF made a mistake, allow them the time to asses the wrong doing and apologise. @ Honesty, the whole world is racist and against you. How sad, i feel so sorry for you.
HB8/25/2009 3:07 PM
A political circus again, what else is to be expected. Thank you for the entertainment.... Viva ANC.
Thabo8/25/2009 3:06 PM
I think this is a circus. Chuene & Malema must go back to the villages they came from and learn some manners.
Francois8/25/2009 3:05 PM
Maybe Mbulaeni Mulaudzi and long jump silver medalist Khotso Mokoena should now pack up and also go and represent other coutries like Karin Mey did!! maybe there they will get the respect and ackowledgement they deserve!! but from us on ground level well done to all of you!!
James8/25/2009 3:05 PM
A 1000 tears from now, black people wil still play the race card every time something does not go their way - shame!
Francois8/25/2009 3:04 PM
Maybe Mbulaeni Mulaudzi and long jump silver medalist Khotso Mokoena should now pack up and also go and represent other coutries like Karin Mey did!! maybe there they will get the respect and ackowledgement they deserve!! but from us on ground level well done to all of you!!
fuzzy8/25/2009 3:04 PM
This is so typical of our politicians. No-one, not even her mother can possibly know whether her body conatins unacceptably high male hormones. Thsi can only be determined by gender testing. It is truly sad for the girl but needs to be resolved. The likes of Winnie, Chuene and Malema screaming 'RACIST' to the rest of the world quite frankly is a joke as half of the worlds top atheletes are black. Maybe racism is something reserved for South African blacks?
Francois8/25/2009 3:04 PM
Maybe Mbulaeni Mulaudzi and long jump silver medalist Khotso Mokoena should now pack up and also go and represent other coutries like Karin Mey did!! maybe there they will get the respect and ackowledgement they deserve!! but from us on ground level well done to all of you!!
sal8/25/2009 3:04 PM
so whose the mamma.. wheres the bannana...
Ghwappie8/25/2009 3:04 PM
Eish, Chuene! You just don't know when to shut up! I told you the other day it is better to shut up and be considered an idiot, than to speak up and remove all doubt. You dont have a clue about IAAF rules, do you? Or what gender testing entails, and why it is necessary, do you? Do you know ANYTHING about athletics AT ALL? Or sports in general? Anything? You are singlehandedly turning SA into the laughing stock of the athletics world. And warning the IAAF - eish. The only thing more dangerous than a total imbecile, is a total imbecile with a superiority complex.
Confused8/25/2009 3:02 PM
Can Honesty please explain to me what racism has to do with the issue?
chazza8/25/2009 3:01 PM
whilst i am sure we all agree that semenya has been poorly treated (as discussed in previous threads the IAAF should have handled this completely differently) i dont see why the gravey trainers like Winnie/Julia et al should get involved. Let the tests come back and take it from there, trying to avoid all the mud slinging. The IAAF made a mistake, allow them the time to asses the wrong doing and apologise. @ Honesty, the whole world is racist and against you. How sad, i feel so sorry for you.
John8/25/2009 3:01 PM
This is Africa, we manipulate everything to suit ourselves. Even science suddenly means nothing, but we saw that in the past when our Government denied the existence of HIV/AIDS. If science demonstrates that she has THREE TIMES the normal level of testosterone then she is not really a woman, period! Whether she is black or white the facts remain the facts. I get the impression that the term closet case comes to mind regarding some of the opposition to the facts. Shame so when someone queries your gender, because you seem too feminine or too male then suddenly it becomes a racist issue. I GUARANTEE that had "she" been white the racial card would certainly not have been played in attempts to resolve the issue. Racism only applies when the person(s) in question are black of course, while whites have to take what comes their way. Whites have to take responsibility and face the consequences, blacks cry racism and get away with murder, rape and fraud. Julius, I'm getting worried about you..... :-)
Tell it like it is.8/25/2009 3:00 PM
I think we should all support this athlete as this whole episode has been handled badly by the IAAF. However, she is not the first athlete to be tested and at least two other White athletes had to go through the same thing previously. Black or White, there must be consistency with all tests. Stop the racist drivel from both sides! With all the technology today, how do you know if it is a man or a woman athlete? It's not that hard to hide your sausage, cut it off or whatever and pose as a woman!
Ratattack8/25/2009 3:00 PM
So stupid. We have an 800m world champ (a man who ran the mens race ;) and all this is about is ANC members grandstanding around Caster. What gives? The ANC members there are all old school racists. Why wasn't Zille invited too? Incidentally, though she is a woman she probably has more balls than all the men there! Especially Nkwenkwe - I think that he also needs a gender test. He/she seems to have morphed into a mafuta. (I think that it was bad the way the IAAF went about telling the public that she was being tested.) I sincerely hope that Caster is cleared as a woman. It has been a long wait since our last world record breaking athlete (Elana Meyer). With lots of love to you all, The Patriot.
Boogeyman8/25/2009 3:00 PM
Have the politicians not got better things to do ? Why can't they deal with this in a civilized mature manner. Instead of using this circus to promote hate filled racist comments based on personal agenda and dragging SA's name through the mud. Hysteria from Malema nad Madiki wtf ever is par for the course. Zuma's gonna have to reel these puppets in ..again.
Jody 8/25/2009 3:00 PM
Why is it that everything has to get turned into a racial disagreament. Julius and Winnie need to wke up and realise that the only way to get over racial issues is to ignore them and allow people to have disagreaments that human beings will have irrespective of race, colour or creed. People will fight and look for reasons why someone is doing better than another person. Apartheid made it easy for whites to say coloured people are not genetically, or mentally capable of performing competantly. What has happened to Caster should be understood when taken into context of how easliy she managed to outclass her opposition. Instead of brining up the racial divide once again and purely blaming the white Europeans of being racist, why not try celebrate as South Africans, give the Malaudzi and Makoena praise as South Africans and let us buile this country up as a united and proud nation, not a nation still divided by by racialism, sexism, sexual orientation and stereotypes. Lets celebrate together and in numbers we will overcome, stand apart and we will fall apart.
Ubuntu8/25/2009 2:59 PM
AS much as I support Caster there is a reality that people have to face. International sport has nothing to do with "feel good" stuff, but is controlled by big money. To make it racial is silly. There are a great many black athletes who make it big on the world stage, all of whom have to abide by the rules. There will be drug tests, gender tests and all sorts of preventative measures against cheating. If not, then let everyone, men and women compete in the same event, let them take whate ver drugs they wish, and cheat any which way. It's silly to think we can buck the system as South Africa. We cannot. They will suspend Caster if she does not test. This will mean South Africa will be out of world atheltics if Kuene and the rest of these twits have their way. Is that a reasonable solution?. Let Caster test, pass the test, then this is all gone. Refuse to test and she will be guilty by implication. So, unless Athletics SOuth Africa KNOW there is something to hide, what are they hiding?? .... This is all going to end very, very , very badly indeed. This is not racist - many white East Germans were expelled for cheating, as were some others. Get off the racist horse, buy a reality horse. Please.
Ruffdog8/25/2009 2:59 PM
Yawn......surely the administrators of the Sport realised there was a question of gender and would of checked the IAAF standing on this prior to exposing Caster to this sort of publicity? Oh quick lets all jump on the band wagon and cry racists - please your behaviour is very similar to the nationalist party under sanctions - weapons of self political destruction here we come - there are obviously some very serious questions around some of our President Mr Zuma's appointments into Political Office - Winnie all this time a "lady" in waiting and you have learnt nothing - talk about taking a horse to water !
RUDOLF8/25/2009 2:59 PM
The "brigade" once again stole the limelight and made fools of themselves in the process. I think the media, white and/or otherwise must simply stop printing what these idiots have to say. Sometimes it has some comedy value but never any real value. Idiots the lot of them.
Pascal8/25/2009 2:59 PM
It's all about respect and freedom. Until black people will be united then we shall opose any non sens questioned on us. the same way Africans repect white people in African and else where that's what white people are expected to do otherwise many people will be forced to talk and act like Mugabe.
Topdog8/25/2009 2:59 PM
Just shows you how sexist the anc youth league is!
Ruffdog8/25/2009 2:58 PM
Yawn......surely the administrators of the Sport realised there was a question of gender and would of checked the IAAF standing on this prior to exposing Caster to this sort of publicity? Oh quick lets all jump on the band wagon and cry racists - please your behaviour is very similar to the nationalist party under sanctions - weapons of self political destruction here we come - there are obviously some very serious questions around some of our President Mr Zuma's appointments into Political Office - Winnie all this time a "lady" in waiting and you have learnt nothing - talk about taking a horse to water !
Derek8/25/2009 2:58 PM
Where is gender equality now - why should a woman get more than a male, do we not hear on a continuous basis that especially in sport athletes should be treated as equals? Just another illustration that the ANCYL has no idea what equal rights means.........
saddened by 'honesty'8/25/2009 2:57 PM
Dearest Honesty, Perhaps you should rather have been called stupidity? You seem to imply that all white people are racist. May I remind you that most South Africans (including whites) are proud of what Caster has done and achieved. Comments from racist buffoons such as Chuene and Malema (not because of their skin colour, but because of their complete lack of intellectual judgement) only serve to harm our democracy.
Suprise8/25/2009 2:57 PM
@ Honesty - get a life and get off the race thing. You are on every forum going on about race, rather do some work and contribute to the economy you useless git.
Lionel8/25/2009 2:56 PM
Controversial characters such as Madikizele Mandela and Malema climbing on the sporting bandwagon illustrates the sorry state of affairs athletics and politics in SA has reached. Mr Chuene is not a great deal better. It is sincerely hoped that the young athlete does not suffer undue trauma as a result of the disgusting manner in which she has been treated. However why did Athletics SA not endeavour to protect her against the impending barrage of adverse publicity BEFORE she was placed in the athletics "jungle". Shame on ASA for repudiating any responsibility towards Semenya. And of course raising the race card illustrates the ignorance of those in high places of administation in SA
TLR8/25/2009 2:56 PM
Honesty: Get a life man.....how many decades are you still going to be a cry baby blaming people of other races for your sorrow? Nothing prevent you to start a business and become economic active, and you know what? it is not the white people that marginalize the majority of the people but the ANC government....look how unhappy the ppl are in nearly every town with ANC councils...so please stop with your outdated comments on racism...we live in a new era now, apartheid has long since gone, stop playing the pathetic and boring racist card and move on.....
d.one8/25/2009 2:55 PM
My GOODNESS! I dont blame the IAAF or anyone for asking, they know all to well of our the record breaking performances regarding corruption SAA, SABC and LOCAL GOVERMENT.
d.one8/25/2009 2:54 PM
My GOODNESS! I dont blame the IAAF or anyone for asking, they know all to well of our the record breaking performances regarding corruption SAA, SABC and LOCAL GOVERMENT.
boyzie8/25/2009 2:54 PM
Its a shame that the whole thing turned into sort of political rally for the anc. Caster as well as all the other athletics did not go to the games to compete for the anc or govt..they were representing the whole of mzansi!! eish politicians!!
Ian8/25/2009 2:54 PM
The way our so called "top brass" have dealt with this is unprofessional and shows our third world mindsets, just like you HONESTY. Yes the way the IAAF handled this was wrong and they should have conducted themselves better but does that mean we should now throw threats and insults back. We should have been "the better person" than that and showed the world we can deal with such things professionally and appropriatley and they could learn from us. Mr Chuene, are not maybe the so called "stupid" president of ASA rather than the scientist, just asking.
Bats8/25/2009 2:53 PM
@ Honesty - oh Puleeze!!! Its people like you who are the biggest racists. As for our ASA telling the rest of the world that they are all racist too.....what a bunch of halfwits. I do hope that she is a she & we dont get egg on our faces. Personally I think it doesnt matter what colour the athlete is if they really do differ from the gender norm test them by all means. Its really no different to dope testing. SA needs to relax
dianne8/25/2009 2:53 PM
Dear Sir, I am very confused and I hope you can help me. I'm a white middle aged woman, so by the reckoning of the supreme council of ASA, I must be racist. So please explain why I danced around my lounge like a mad woman when Semenya, Malaudzi and Makoena performed as well as they did. This is psychologically damaging to me. Please help.
Johnny8/25/2009 2:52 PM
It's only a matter of time before someone is hurt at these welcome receptions. They seem to have become more and more chaotic. It's nice that Semenya got a welcome but depressing it was a circus and even worse that the ANC is using it as a PR platform.....
Innocence8/25/2009 2:52 PM
A big congrats to our athletes, well done guys and girl. Will never cease to amaze me how SA polititians, especially Malema will use any opportunity to drive their own agenda. This is not a race issue, black people have dominated the track for many years.
Wazza8/25/2009 2:52 PM
What a bunch of morons ......... not a brain cell to be found between Chuene and Malema! In fact I bet if one of those two walked into an empty room the IQ level would drop instantly!
Fred8/25/2009 2:52 PM
When the Russian and other East Block ladies were tested for their gender during the Olympics in previous years, there was no outcry or media frenzy. It was accepted as part the rules of the sport, exactly the same as dope testing. If there is ANY doubt, testing MUST be done to be fair to the athlete, as well as the opponents. This time round, in the case of Caster, a bunch of insecure, chip on the shoulder politicians and ASA administrators took advantage of the situation and turned it into a media and political circus. I really feel sorry for Caster, because she is used as a puppet by the ANC and it's cronies. Well done to the IAAF for doing their job, and ending all speculation, once the results are out. Honesty @ 2:10, what tree did you fall out of Boet?
Not racist, realistic8/25/2009 2:52 PM
Has anyone here stood back and thought "Chuene is one HELLUVA spindoctor!!!!!". I am as perturbed as anyone else about this fiasco surrounding Caster Semenya. But instead of calling the racist card, think of the incompetent manner in which ASA has handled this matter. ASA FAILED SEMENYA, because these tests were taken already - TWICE - in the past few years. They - ASA - should have anticipated this, especially so so since IAAF raised this issue this year still- and submitted the results of those tests!! I am SICKENED by the fact that ASA said it is racist people in SA that "tipped" the IAAF. What absolute load of hogwash!! I am SICKENED by someone like HONESTY's (8/25/2009 2;10pm) reference to white people. That statement is simply not true, and you better be careful, your own racist seams are showing. I am SICKENED by Carl's (8/25/2009 2:10pm) reference to Cheuene and Malema who skipped evolution. Carl, go jump in a lake and drown...slowly!!! YOU and YOUR TYPE are keeping racism in this country alive and I hate you for it... whoever you are. And lastly... at CHUENE of ASA.... SHAME ON YOU!!! You should have prevented this embarrassment for Caster. If you were worth your salt at all, you should have protected her in anticipation, not in retrospect. All these actions - your resignation from IAAF, judgments to IAAF, "protecting this girl with your life" blah blah blah is AFTER THE FACT. YOU failed her, YOU failed her; YOU failed her. Stop trying to be such a spindoctor, and take responsibility for your negligence as the root of this fiasco. And very lastly: Mbulaeni and Kgotso... WELL DONE MY BROTHERS!! We are proud of you guys. You are our consistent role models. If ASA are too incompetent to think of congratulating you on home ground... here it is... HALAAALLLAA, Mokoena and Mulaudze.. HALAAALAAAA!!!!
Pop Idol8/25/2009 2:51 PM
Lying about ones gender isnt a new thing to sport.That athlete looks manly to me and a gender test in this case is appropriate and has nothing to do with racism..Also bear in mind that the individual could be a hermaphrodite,someone born with both gender's sex organs..I have no problem with anyone conducting a gender test on anyone.
johrne8/25/2009 2:50 PM
Honesty, you are missing the argument. It is not about black and white here. Relax.
mick8/25/2009 2:50 PM
I am confused! In SA we even have a minister for gender equality. Yet surely this whole thing proves that the genders are not considered equal. Man, what a crazy, mixed-up government!
Thandi8/25/2009 2:50 PM
With his stupid utterances, what a laughing stock Chuene is making of South African athletics on the international stage. He's trying to cover up his own incompetence and as always, there is no accountability, and it's always someone else's fault - and if you can place the blame on racism, all the better! Before they left South Africa ASA would have known that questions would be asked and and they should have saved this poor young women the agony of having her gender debated in the world's media. As for Malema, well, his increasingly inane, uninformed comments shouldn't even be reported on - apart from the fact that he supposedly represents the majority of South African youth. What a horrifying thought!
Joe8/25/2009 2:49 PM
Their communist rethoric is enough to make any person in his right mind go bonkers.This is the kind of crap that we wil have to put up with more and more.Zim here we come.I sincerely wish that a--h---s like Malema will disappear from the scene forever.
Neil8/25/2009 2:49 PM
@Honesty, not much honesty in your comments is there! People who spew vitriol, and who obviously have other issues nauseate me! Get a life, move forward, and stand up and be counted and contrinute to the country instead of hiding behind a pseudonym! All those politicians couldn't give a damn about this young girl! Political grandstanding! Madizikela Mandela, Malema and Chuene are all muppets who contribute nothing to this great country of ours! All they do is take from it!
Lilian8/25/2009 2:49 PM
I read in the Sunday Times that this Semenya was teased while growing up in her community. She had to prove who she was if she wanted to play matches. She was gender tested twice. Who asked for it and who sanctioned it? Malema and Winnie as usual manage to turn this into a racial issue. Idiots the two of them and you can add that Chuene to that list. I have heard many people (black and white) voicing their oppinion on her gender. Why then turn it into a race issue? The again these dumb idiots always hide behind race when they can't engage their brains. Once again we are the laughing stock of the world. But do they care???? If I were in that position I'd bet tested. It wouldn't bother me. It would please me to prove people wrong.
P8/25/2009 2:49 PM
So typical, when in doubt, play the racist card.
Thandi8/25/2009 2:48 PM
With his stupid utterances, what a laughing stock Chuene is making of South African athletics on the international stage. He's trying to cover up his own incompetence and as always, there is no accountability, and it's always someone else's fault - and if you can place the blame on racism, all the better! Before they left South Africa ASA would have known that questions would be asked and and they should have saved this poor young women the agony of having her gender debated in the world's media. As for Malema, well, his increasingly inane, uninformed comments shouldn't even be reported on - apart from the fact that he supposedly represents the majority of South African youth. What a horrifying thought!
Grow Up SA8/25/2009 2:48 PM
What is all the fuss about? Semenya is not the first to be tested for gender verification, and this will definately not be the last person to be tested in the world. If SA wants to participate in world events such as these, they must abide by the international rules. There are specific definitions for gender identification and in sport there is no place for "almost" in any gender, its either / or. Besides, what about the rights of the althletes who competes against suspect competitors, surely they have the right to compete against exact definitions of their particular genders. The world does not owe SA anything and political utterances and threats from SA only amounts to a lot of hot air and frankly, it serves as testimony of the country maturity. Complete the tests, make the results known and accept whatever the outcome without fuss, that's the conduct of mature adults.
Ant8/25/2009 2:48 PM
I think I might prefer to have racists running things than obvious idiots such as Cheuene and Malema [who probably would even be able to run away from a woodworking class!]
Sports fan 8/25/2009 2:47 PM
This is ridiculous, why is Chuene even thinking about "suspension" or "punishment" for Semenya??? she is merely being tested - and believe it or not this is not the first time such tests have been conducted (it was introduced in 1966 for heavens sake)! This is not a special "racist" plot to rid the world of black athletes! Let the IAAF's "black" President implement the rules as he sees fit, to include all participants to make it fair for all!
Fanie8/25/2009 2:47 PM
Absolutely unbeliveable . Cannot believe the way ASA is run - can anuone belive Chuene's comments regarding a scientist from a stupid varsity. ANCYL sommer hijack the homecoming. Be warned , its only a matter of time before RSA joins the rest of Africa , run by morons
Camel Man8/25/2009 2:46 PM
What did you all expect? Malema and cronies will take any opportunity to show off their intelligence. Won't it be a laugh if the tests are not what the ANC wants??? Morons.
Enuff8/25/2009 2:46 PM
Where were all the white South Africans to greet the athletes, I hear Malema say,ummmm......................................working #$%hole !!! That's because we respect and value our jobs.
Amazed8/25/2009 2:46 PM
Here we go again, South Africa telling the world that their scientists are no good and we are the best with our homegrown science - remember Mbeki and HIV? Methinks the she-man is going to have to return the medal - can you imagine the furore then? To the other two athletes who won gold, you are amazing and have done us proud. Well down gents, I salute you both.
Sinudeity @HONESTY8/25/2009 2:45 PM
What does, athletics, gold medalists, and the 'white economy' have to do with each other? Go spew your communist black panther malema speak somewhere else.
Andy8/25/2009 2:44 PM
@ HONESTY. It never matters what subject is discussed. Racism always comes up. Get over it guys ....... YAWN. Why can't you simply see these athletes for what they are ...... professional atheletes, who have excelled at the World Championships. Its always black people who keep bringing up this issue of Racism - but the biggest racisits are the blacks themselves. Try to see people for what they are doing - stop looking at their skin colour - and drop this Racism issue - its really become tiring.
Tarras Bulba @ Honesty8/25/2009 2:44 PM
You're right, Honesty .. but it just so happens the racists are Black now :) But the fact that you don't see they're (once again) exploiting someone for their OWN political gain doesn't pair up well with the fact that you know how to post a comment on here. A little tip, my "brother" ... use less exclamation marks. Not everything needs to be shouted.
nono8/25/2009 2:44 PM
its not fair to only focus on Caster,she is not the only one won the GOLD.
Hakuna Matata8/25/2009 2:43 PM
Where does this clown Chuene thinks he fits within the bigger scheme of things? It is sooooo scary to think that he is actually the president of ASA. But then again, this is Africa and nowadays babboons can rule!!
mick8/25/2009 2:42 PM
I am confused! In SA we even have a minister for gender equality. Yet surely this whole thing proves that the genders are not considered equal. Man, what a crazy, mixed-up government!
coen8/25/2009 2:42 PM
Sounds a bit like Uncle Bob from next door. Nobody will describe to them what to do and how especialy if it's a white person. Logic is not part of their world. Honesty. what about commen sense and not racism?
Proudly SA8/25/2009 2:42 PM
HONESTY, are you a fool? What has this got to do with race? You and your uneducated friend ( Julius ) should rather shut up until such time that you can make comments that biuld up our wonderful country. It is time to live in the present and not the past.
Lilian8/25/2009 2:41 PM
I read in the Sunday Times that Semenya was teased in her community as a child and that she had to prove her gender time and again when she entered sports events. I have heard many black and white people proclaiming her gender (male or female) and yet this idiot Malema and old Winnie decide to turn this into a race issue. Where were they when she was been ostracised by her own community while growing up? Oh forgot, the world and S.A. didn't know who Simenenya was.There was no limelight there for these opportunists. The ANCYL is going to hand out R40.000 and R25.000 to athletes. Where do they get that money????? Bunch of bloody idiots is all I can say. Once again we are the laughing stock of the world, but the do they care??????
Fikkle Piel8/25/2009 2:41 PM
What else do you expect from the ANC...They always leave a bad taste in your mouth...
pepe8/25/2009 2:41 PM
“One scientist from a stupid university somewhere is going to erase the entire life of this girl.”....QUOTE OF THE DECADE.
honestly honesty8/25/2009 2:41 PM
Who is the racist? Are you completely braindead or is your brain previously disadvantaged!!! Malema is such a fool...it's so hard to believe someone who should be leading the "youth" by example can actually get away with publicly promoting racism - this is why the country will NEVER be united. C'mon now get over yourselves and ANC do something with this "youth leader" he needs to be diciplined, as I cannot just go voicing my opinion in such a way neither should he. Well done Caster this is YOUR achievement not that leach latching onto you for his own gain!!!! And lets also not forget to recognise our men who equally performed, well done Mr Mulaudzi and Mr Mokoena.
Kel8/25/2009 2:41 PM
I thought the article was about all our medal winners. Well done to all of you on a wonderful performance. I watch each of your events and medal ceromonies and was proud to be a South African.
Clem8/25/2009 2:41 PM
White South African prejudice is seen by their absence at the welcoming and support of our champions. Wait till the rugby world champs come home. Their true colours will show.
Vrye Denker8/25/2009 2:41 PM
I am so glad I am on my way to the USA. And just in case someone says "good riddance", might I enlighten you to the fact that I take with me a lot of tax revenue and a handful of job opportunities. At least over there sport and politics are separate entities. And ironically, even though I'm white, I can call myself an "African American", thus getting the benefit of Affirmative Action policies, as opposed to suffering under it.
Graham8/25/2009 2:41 PM
The sooner this country gets rid of Malema and Chuene the better. Every time they open their mouths they bring up the race card- if is is not against the IAAF then it is against white South Africans. I, as a proud white South African, have yet to hear anyone in my circle of friends who have expressed nothing but support for Semenya and how proud they are of being fellow South Africans. I would, however, like Chuene to clear up one matter which he has been silent on--did the IAAF ask ASA to verify the gender of Semenya 3 weeks before the team left for Berlin or not. If they did then ASA are to blame for the terrible exposure they have put her through during the World Championships.
Kyle_logan8/25/2009 2:40 PM
No God, this Chuene is such an idiot. "let me warn professors and scientists that the only scientist I believe in are the parents of the child." I didnt know they where scientits??? people this is sport it happens, they have done testing on russians and germans when they believed they was something fishy... if they dont like the rules, then why not just withdraw all SA athelets from all cometitions that way no one can upset them... really the bigest bunch of babies I've even heard..and ofcourse they ANC... and ofcourse they cry rasist... bloody pathetic.
Kel8/25/2009 2:40 PM
I thought the article was about all our medal winners. Well done to all of you on a wonderful performance. I watch each of your events and medal ceromonies and was proud to be a South African.
Gerhard8/25/2009 2:40 PM
HONESTY - YOU ARE THE RACIST. I have had enough of these destructive comments. I do hope these gender tests end up in favour of our girl. It was such a stunning victory. In years gone by, there were cases were these same issues played a role so we have no grounds to say they are not allowed to do this. I just think it was handled in very poor taste and I hope we can rub their noses in it. It is just so sad that ANC politicians once again went and turned this into a heap of s**T! Oh and by the way, the rest of the world is not intimidated by your silly little threats like they better not suspend her etc, we are with her... - what are you going to do? Do a little dance? Burn down somebody's property? Grow up.
bONGANI8/25/2009 2:40 PM
When a white SA press gave IAAF to test Semenya, this became political. We just need more blacks in our team. may be we will have more medals. I can not wait to hear some one saying blacks are used to running like you said when Jongi scored 4 tries.
Shame8/25/2009 2:40 PM
@ Honesty - I really can't see how you come to the conclusion regarding white ppl still ruling and being racist. You say based on "all" the comments on this board, there is EXACTLY 1 comment on which you could base that! The BIGGEST problem is that black ppl have such a big chip on their shoulders about being black and it is always easier blaming "appartheid" for all the problems. You are also a RACIST (YES, black ppl can also be racist to those of you that did not know this).So why don't you just keep your idiotic comments for yourself and keep on sipping on your glass of self-pity.
Graham8/25/2009 2:40 PM
The sooner this country gets rid of Malema and Chuene the better. Every time they open their mouths they bring up the race card- if is is not against the IAAF then it is against white South Africans. I, as a proud white South African, have yet to hear anyone in my circle of friends who have expressed nothing but support for Semenya and how proud they are of being fellow South Africans. I would, however, like Chuene to clear up one matter which he has been silent on--did the IAAF ask ASA to verify the gender of Semenya 3 weeks before the team left for Berlin or not. If they did then ASA are to blame for the terrible exposure they have put her through during the World Championships.
Gerhard8/25/2009 2:40 PM
HONESTY - YOU ARE THE RACIST. I have had enough of these destructive comments. I do hope these gender tests end up in favour of our girl. It was such a stunning victory. In years gone by, there were cases were these same issues played a role so we have no grounds to say they are not allowed to do this. I just think it was handled in very poor taste and I hope we can rub their noses in it. It is just so sad that ANC politicians once again went and turned this into a heap of s**T! Oh and by the way, the rest of the world is not intimidated by your silly little threats like they better not suspend her etc, we are with her... - what are you going to do? Do a little dance? Burn down somebody's property? Grow up.
hannes8/25/2009 2:40 PM
I wonder if only LJ v Zyl won a medal if the ANC youth league would give him R60000 to go and relax? i doubt. Honesty, please go make your comments somewhere else.
Lebogo8/25/2009 2:39 PM
The only racist on this thread is the poor fool with the broken "1" key on his keyboard.
bONGANI8/25/2009 2:39 PM
When a white SA press gave IAAF to test Semenya, this became political. We just need more blacks in our team. may be we will have more medals. I can not wait to hear some one saying blacks are used to running like you said when Jongi scored 4 tries.
Awa8/25/2009 2:39 PM
Honesty you're right - Racists rule here- The racist ANC regime! To Malema & ANCYL - 4Q !
R Boulter8/25/2009 2:38 PM
I am at a loss for word that Zuma allows the likes of Malema to even speak because what comes out his mouht is utter drivel! I am sure I'm not the only one that feels sick to my stomach every time the name Malema is mentioned! Before the critics of the IAAF put their very large feet in their mouths why dont they wait for the results. This is not a political or a racial thing, Athletes have been tested for a number of years. I feel confident that Caster is indeed a girls and take my hat off to her for what she has achieved.
To Mamaleecheun8/25/2009 2:38 PM
Make us proud girls!!
Johncarlos8/25/2009 2:37 PM
"The likes of member of parliament Winnie Madikizele-Mandela and ANC Youth League president Julius Malema, led the support" I was reading with pride till I got to that line. Thereafter I remembered I'm in South Africa. Fools have hijacked all our national pride.
To Mamaleecheun8/25/2009 2:37 PM
Make us proud girls!!
Pop Idol8/25/2009 2:37 PM
Lying about ones gender isnt a new thing to sport.That athlete looks manly to me and a gender test in this case is appropriate and has nothing to do with racism..Also bear in mind that the individual could be a hermaphrodite,someone born with both gender's sex organs..I have no problem with anyone conducting a gender test on anyone.
Max8/25/2009 2:37 PM
@ Honesty - get over yourself you bloody idiot
sipho8/25/2009 2:37 PM
found it funny when a white person earlier called malema a racist.i mean what are south african whites famous for?leadership from the broad spectrum was called and i guess some were not interested which is not surprising
Saddened8/25/2009 2:37 PM
I felt sorry for her the ANC ect have turned it into a even bigger issue and caused for her to suffer greater embarrassment in order to cause greater division and mobilize the country based on race! It is truly unfortunate the way the story was leaked, however one must not forget this has happened to other athletes in the past! The foreign media is more brutal and cruel then ours, it's not racism it just the way they are !
WTF8/25/2009 2:36 PM
WHAT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS, AND IF THAT MEANS I AM RACIST, SO BE IT. WHITE AND PROUD OF IT!!!!! DARKEST AFRICA ECT................
Kyle_logan8/25/2009 2:36 PM
No God, this Chuene is such an idiot. "let me warn professors and scientists that the only scientist I believe in are the parents of the child." I didnt know they where scientits??? people this is sport it happens, they have done testing on russians and germans when they believed they was something fishy... if they dont like the rules, then why not just withdraw all SA athelets from all cometitions that way no one can upset them... really the bigest bunch of babies I've even heard..and ofcourse they ANC... and ofcourse they cry rasist... bloody pathetic.
Sigh @ Honesty8/25/2009 2:35 PM
You say "Racists still rule here", meaning "white people", while you say nothing about the fact that "your own people" shoved the two other athletes to one side. Please pull your finger out your backside (not the hole in your head, which is called your ear, although I can see why you are confused) and take responsibility that you cannot make it on your own and stop shouting "racists" at every possible opportunity. It is getting lame ....
Arcks8/25/2009 2:35 PM
The fact that Malema mentioned that there were no white ppl at the airport...shows who is actually racist, honesty...you might be right that racist a.k.a Malema is trying to rule....he wants to cause devision...your allowing it with your comment! He's a disgrace to the youth and this country!!!!!!
jj8/25/2009 2:33 PM
The outcome of BEE apointments
Bertrand8/25/2009 2:32 PM
whaaaaaa this is laughable. If she was white, they would have kept quiet. I am sure of that. Racist Malema and Chuene! Shame on you. If they tested her for drugs would that also have been racist? Eish you people are confused.
Johann8/25/2009 2:31 PM
Strange how everything that is wrong is racist and violation against human rights. Why the "circus" if there is no truth in the accusations? Where there is smoke there is a fire!!!
Oh my gosh8/25/2009 2:30 PM
I am surprised that Uncle Bob from Mugabeland was not brought down to add to the circus. For goodness sake - let all our sports people get on with their enjoyment of their various sports and get these blasted politicians with their filthy, money grabbing hands and pious utterances to go and do something useful - like getting service delivery on track.
terence8/25/2009 2:30 PM
why is the anc there, this is none of their business... julius must go back to school and winnie must go back to jail... Why is the anc getting involved in sports its nose does not belong there.let ASA and the IAAF handle this and let it run its course, if semenye is found guilty of taking banned substances or funny male genes then her medal must be stripped as simple as that... chuene eat on this
Wolf8/25/2009 2:30 PM
I'm with the IAAF on this one - let's wait for those test results before throwing accusations & threats. Athletics SA needs to know its place in the pecking order.
GB8/25/2009 2:30 PM
White ppl (ppl?); economics? This was an athletic debate revolving around sex, I thought. Whites from Eastern Bloc countries have been gender tested regularly. Racists rule? Actually, that much is true - the ANC are proving that racism is alive and well in sport. @Honesty, you are a sad, sad person. And I feel sorry for your poor overworked exclamation key. Would that it could swop with your brain.
Gustav8/25/2009 2:30 PM
This is VERY scary!!!!!!!
Oh my gosh8/25/2009 2:30 PM
I am surprised that Uncle Bob from Mugabeland was not brought down to add to the circus. For goodness sake - let all our sports people get on with their enjoyment of their various sports and get these blasted politicians with their filthy, money grabbing hands and pious utterances to go and do something useful - like getting service delivery on track.
Keoagile8/25/2009 2:29 PM
This racist behavior must come to an end. The thought of this whole saga started here in our country by people whom we classify as our country man while they want to see us going down, this is very unbecoming uncalled for ………………….big-up to Malema en Winnie. Away with racist Away,
Willie8/25/2009 2:29 PM
It amazes me how a question of gender is made a racist issue, are we that F*cking stupid to believe that? What about all the other black athletes who got gold medals... This is pathetic...!!!! Clearly they are JUST THAT STUPID!!!
michael8/25/2009 2:29 PM
@ HONESTY: Why pull the race card? you are ignorant and embarrassing. Go crawl back down that hole you came from.
G Man8/25/2009 2:29 PM
"One scientist from a stupid university somewhere is going to erase the entire life of this girl.” and “We are here and one thing they mustn’t do is suspend her.” So what is this? Confirmation? Admission? @HONESTY: In my life I have never heard a more stupid comment. You have the intellect of a amoeba.
WiredAngel8/25/2009 2:28 PM
HONESTY...here's some honesty for you. Open your eyes, stop smoking all that ganja, so you can actually KNOW what you are doing when you are voting. Otherwise, stop trolling and flaming white ppl, just like your horrific leaders, Dilemma and Chew Any.
Del Boy8/25/2009 2:28 PM
cant believe - wheres the sawdust ?
cvr8/25/2009 2:28 PM
I wonder how many woman have done this test over the years.. And if the same political mud slinging was part of it? Is this not some or other excuse to get some attention by some of our "leaders". What a shame that our two other athletes were shoved out of the spotlight that was then taken up by politicians. And @ Honesty.. How is this racial? Why can't anybody stand up and ask why people are saying this is instigated by the white people. I cannot stand this absolute junk. I am getting so tired of the same old song. If anything happens that can be questioned by any margin a bunch of politicians jumps on it and points fingers a race. Please, get a perspective or another country to f up.
@Honesty8/25/2009 2:27 PM
Honesty!!I am extremely proud of all three our medalists, the fact that I'm white and they are black has got nothing to do with it...why?Because they did SA proud as a country!!However, reading your comment here..and also your comments on the other article today - kindly let me remind you, when you point a finger, three point backwards - which makes me wonder - WHO are the real racists here????
Craig8/25/2009 2:27 PM
Honesty, last time I checked the ones that ruled SA politically were the ANC, are you saying we are racist? Are you saying that the BEE strategy has failed? And by the way this problem created by the IAAF has absolutely nothing to with whites or for that matter South Africa? So what is the jist of your comments? By the way the two other medal winners at the Games are also black and why were they marginalised at the Press Conference? Get a life and stop blaming your own inadequecies on someone else
Adams8/25/2009 2:26 PM
@ Honestly. The messages indicate that white people economically run the country!! Do you have any dea of what you are saying? Yourself , Julius and Chuene must have missed the day at school when they touched on the art of reasoning.
Athletic Supporter8/25/2009 2:26 PM
Honesty, You are just as big an idiot as Chuene
poena8/25/2009 2:26 PM
honety and malema. the only word in you vocabulary should be racist! Every thing is racist! I am sure when your post is late it’s the racist’s fault? Caster was great, IAAF made a huge mistake what more do you want? it happens, deal with it and shut up!!!!
Christopher8/25/2009 2:26 PM
@ HONESTY - where is the racisim in this country - can a white person go and walk around a township and feel safe or without prejudice? No , but a black person can go and walk araound any "white" suberb without the same awkward feeling of being victimised? So dont pull the racist card every time - clearly you are still one? And by the way well done to Semenya - behind her all the way!!!!
WiredAngel8/25/2009 2:26 PM
HONESTY...here's some honesty for you. Open your eyes, stop smoking all that ganja, so you can actually KNOW what you are doing when you are voting. Otherwise, stop trolling and flaming white ppl, just like your horrific leaders, Dilemma and Chew Any.
Athletic Supporter8/25/2009 2:26 PM
Honesty, You are just as big an idiot as Chuene
Wendy8/25/2009 2:26 PM
Julius you should take up the job as spokesperson for the IAAF... your c**k ups are worse than theirs. How do you think those white athletes felt when you turned it into the usual Race card. You are a DISGRACE
Morne8/25/2009 2:26 PM
These idiots really know how to make our country look stupid. Now the entire world will think all SA citizens are such idiots. Winnie Mandela , Malema....what more can you say ???
Venter8/25/2009 2:25 PM
I never realised that the ANCYL had their own team... I thought that ALL 3 these top athletes competed for the SA Team... therefor meaning for ALL of us. It is sad that 2 of them are being sidelined in a political circus... and ag shame on everyone who still want to get a last ride on the old racist wagon here.. stop talking sh^&% and work for a change... maybe then service standards and all the real problems we face will improve.. the socalled Whites that did the "bad" things are all living abroad... Every white person left here in SA wants to be here... the haters and the racist have mostly left... Viva the "new" SA ..viva
Christopher8/25/2009 2:25 PM
@ HONESTY - where is the racisim in this country - can a white person go and walk around a township and feel safe or without prejudice? No , but a black person can go and walk araound any "white" suberb without the same awkward feeling of being victimised? So dont pull the racist card every time - clearly you are still one? And by the way well done to Semenya - behind her all the way!!!!
Carl 8/25/2009 2:25 PM
@ Honesty - Dude, I made no reference to colour. I also did not dispute the fact that we have to support Caster, I am very proud of her achievements. But if we are going to defend our athletes, lets do it in an intellectual and articulate way. And what does this article have to do with the "economic rule" of the country?
Ron8/25/2009 2:25 PM
Wake Up HONESTY@2:10 ! Not everybody is a racist ! But people like you will ensure that racism never dies in this country. I feel sick thinking that you roam the streets and influence younger people. You make the amazing feats if these athletes into a political thing. Shame on you and this stupid Chuene guy.
Venter8/25/2009 2:25 PM
I never realised that the ANCYL had their own team... I thought that ALL 3 these top athletes competed for the SA Team... therefor meaning for ALL of us. It is sad that 2 of them are being sidelined in a political circus... and ag shame on everyone who still want to get a last ride on the old racist wagon here.. stop talking sh^&% and work for a change... maybe then service standards and all the real problems we face will improve.. the socalled Whites that did the "bad" things are all living abroad... Every white person left here in SA wants to be here... the haters and the racist have mostly left... Viva the "new" SA ..viva
Pol8/25/2009 2:23 PM
Caster is being used for political reasons. Winnie and Malema have been handed a gift. Chuene is a complete and utter box.
Topdog8/25/2009 2:23 PM
EISH, why I don't know, basically indeed!
geekie8/25/2009 2:22 PM
Caster!!!!! Please do not associate yourself or your family with the likes of Malema and Winnie!!!! You are better than that...way better....!!!
SAS8/25/2009 2:22 PM
@Honesty! Honestly SHUT-UP!! IDIOT!
Adams8/25/2009 2:21 PM
Chene is proving a complete embarrassement, and indicating to the world what a complete bunch buffoons we have running ASA. If they knew their role, the test would have been done far earlier , without all the fanfare. ASA are to blame for what she has had to endure, and worst of all they show complete ignorance by playing the race card. This testing has happened before to white people , ASA should do their homework and shut their mouths.
sido8/25/2009 2:21 PM
@Honesty - honestly speaking - you are the biggest @(*@)(*#^ alive - what does colour have to do with this ????
S.A. SUPPORTER8/25/2009 2:21 PM
I am really, really concern about some statements made by Chuene. It sounds like he already knows the outcome of the tests."The only scientists I believe is the parents."/"1 thing they must not do is suspend her." These are concerning statements. Excuse the punt, but hier is 'n slang in die gras.
Bra Jane8/25/2009 2:21 PM
Julle boere kan daarem kla!
The Green Hornet8/25/2009 2:21 PM
Honesty Honestly you are racist and your chuene is racist so is your malema we know that most government officials are all racist.... You can hear them swearing whites in the shabeens and the pubs..i hope all the racist anc comrades get hear attacks and drown over the next bottle beer they drink.... you blacks are the ones calling racist this racist that you blacks are the problem,, ofcourse there are some blacks which are not racist but the majority of you are... as for whites most whites wold rather live in peace and harmony but you blacks are bringing the worst out of us Yes you are brining the worst out of us....
Pistol Pete8/25/2009 2:21 PM
@HONESTY. You can honestly get lost. Why always race?
misha8/25/2009 2:20 PM
HONESTY - you are an idiot - it is people like you that give SA a bad name. Maybe you should start thinking as a SOUTH AFRICAN and not as BLACK SOUTH AFRICAN!!
Bankrupt8/25/2009 2:20 PM
I thought the ANCYL was bankrupt, can't pay any bills. How can they afford then to dish out cash. Surely your debts come first!!
MyBloodIsGreen8/25/2009 2:20 PM
This story is so typical. If the author thought Mulaudzi and Mokoena got no attention then why does s/he not shine some light on them instead of trying to paint a negative picture of ASA, the ANCYL and the people gathered in support of Semenya? It's amazing how the quotes are intentionally selective and represented completely out of context. This article wasn't inspired by the lack of attention to the other madalists but rather by the continuing desire by some aspects of the media to discredict the ASA administration and politicians with one-sided drivel. ASA has also never once claimed that the IAAF said Semanya is a man. ASA's point is that that IAAF "suspicion" was derived from steriotypes and supposition rather than facts. That would be a breach of basic human rights.
vitch8/25/2009 2:19 PM
let it go now. enough already
sa citizen8/25/2009 2:19 PM
can someone please show julius the idiot malema and winnie i am criminal mandela our comments because these people are making our country laughing stock. this is not about race can they not get it into their heads, its about being far to other athletes. can government do something to stop making every investigation towards our sporting code a personal attack against the rest of the world towards race.
Test that we can know8/25/2009 2:18 PM
Chuene. The reason why we should worry about their tests is because they make the world rules and are there to protect all athletes against a cheat. Wheter the cheat is Rusian Chinese or South African. If they have reason to suspect cheating(3 times higher testostarone) they are obliged to tests. It is like saying you cant test a athlete for doping just because she is a black girl from SA. If we want to compete against the world we must abide by their rules.
MyBloodIsGreen8/25/2009 2:18 PM
This story is so typical. If the author thought Mulaudzi and Mokoena got no attention then why does s/he not shine some light on them instead of trying to paint a negative picture of ASA, the ANCYL and the people gathered in support of Semenya? It's amazing how the quotes are intentionally selective and represented completely out of context. This article wasn't inspired by the lack of attention to the other madalists but rather by the continuing desire by some aspects of the media to discredict the ASA administration and politicians with one-sided drivel. ASA has also never once claimed that the IAAF said Semanya is a man. ASA's point is that that IAAF "suspicion" was derived from steriotypes and supposition rather than facts. That would be a breach of basic human rights.
Justine8/25/2009 2:17 PM
I think it's shameful that Mbulaeni Mulaudzi and Khotso Mokoena have been pushed aside. Mulaudzi ran a superb race and in winning clinched the men's 800m gold.. surely this is as important as Semenya winning the women's 800m gold? They're BOTH champions! Gender controversy aside, ALL our athletes need to be celebrated. They have ALL worked hard. Stop making this political and start celebrating our achievements.
Thabo Mofutsanyana8/25/2009 2:17 PM
the question that I ask is: does the IAAF have a well articulated standard for who qualifies to compete in the "fe/male" categories. or are they going to scupper (indeed connive) to exclude Caster from competing in future? Imagine being ostracised over your gender something you have no control over! Sies IAAF, you should be ashamed for bring athletics into disrepute (who's gonna hold them accountable)
Awa8/25/2009 2:14 PM
Malema asked or rather shouted "Where are the whites" Most whites were at work, while you-Malema and your ANC government had another day leave and took our hard earned tax money- 4Q Malema!
Justine8/25/2009 2:14 PM
I think it's shameful that Mbulaeni Mulaudzi and Khotso Mokoena have been pushed aside. Mulaudzi ran a superb race and in winning clinched the men's 800m gold.. surely this is as important as Semenya winning the women's 800m gold? They're BOTH champions! Gender controversy aside, ALL our athletes need to be celebrated. They have ALL worked hard. Stop making this political and start celebrating our achievements.
jeremy8/25/2009 2:13 PM
It boggles the mind that we have people in positions of authority who make such utterly stupid comments. If Leonard Chuene has been quoted correctly then he's a huge embarrassment to the country. There are rules and standards, Mr Chuene, that the ASA has signed up to - and you appear to be throwing them in the bin. Like any South African, I hope Caster is "clean," but if she happens to have an extra chromasome or too much testosterone, then her competing is grossly unfair to other athletes. We need to know the results of Caster's sex tests...that's the bottom line!
MD8/25/2009 2:13 PM
Typical
Carl8/25/2009 2:10 PM
I don't know who is the biggest i****? Chuene or Malema. Thank goodness I am not involved in athletics. Because it must be run by one of the biggest i***** in the world!! I seriously think that Evolution forgot to invite the likes of Chuene and Malema to the party...
HONESTY8/25/2009 2:10 PM
Mr Chuene we are with my brother!!!! We admire the way you have stood by our girl!!!!! An injury to ONE an injury ALL!!!!! The comments on the board illustrate the fact that white ppl still economically rule this country!!!! The majority of our ppl are still marginalized!! Racists still rule here!!!!
I have no words8/25/2009 2:02 PM
"The likes of member of parliament Winnie Madikizele-Mandela and ANC Youth League president Julius Malema, led the support" - I just vomited into my mouth. They so fickle its sickening. Thanks i'm going to feel nauseous for the rest of the day.
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