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Die Stem mix-up at hockey Test

2012-06-05 22:51

Johannesburg - The SA women's hockey team will not request an apology from their hosts after the incorrect national anthem was played ahead of their match against Great Britain in London on Tuesday night.

Team manager Les Galloway confirmed that the anthem played by the host nation was not Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika.

Contrary to an earlier statement released by the SA Hockey Association, it was not a full version of the apartheid-era anthem, Die Stem, either.

"It was not Die Stem, but it was not the correct anthem either, it was like a mix. It was bizarre," Galloway said.

"We made them aware of it and they have promised to rectify it."

The national anthem, which was adopted in 1997, consists of a shortened, combined version of the hymn Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika (God Bless Africa) and Die Stem van Suid Afrika (The Call of South Africa) and incorporates the languages isiXhosa, isiZulu, Sesotho, Afrikaans and English.

Galloway said that on Wednesday morning she would listen to the anthem the officials intended playing that night to ensure the error had been corrected.

"We don't like the old anthem, and we don't want it played. No doubt," she said.

"... I have spoken to the officials and by tomorrow night it will be done and dusted.

"We didn't think it was a serious problem," she said.

South Africa, ranked 12th in the world, stunned Great Britain, rated third, with a 3-1 victory in their opening match of the London Cup tournament.

They face Germany, ranked third in the world, in their next match on Wednesday night.

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Comments
  • Christo - 2012-06-05 23:04

    Well done girls...what a pity you get so little publicity back here. Go for it you have it in you!!!!!

      Christopher - 2012-06-06 00:42

      Well done South Africa Women Hockey team...you beat one of the best hockey teams in the world! Well DONE!

      Benn - 2012-06-06 06:15

      Whatever song was played, it obviously worked

      djeloff - 2012-06-06 06:41

      How are both Germany and Great Britain ranked third in the world?

      Rob - 2012-06-06 07:14

      No doubt the work of a " bloody agent. " I trust national " intelligence " will get to the bottem of this.

  • brendoncarpenter1 - 2012-06-05 23:05

    Pre-match organising error?? Se voet! I don't even remember the full version of Die Stem... I do think it was quite an effective (intentional or unintentional) stunt to get more media coverage for a rather unpopular tournament...

  • craigdmn - 2012-06-05 23:06

    S.A Hockey can you please explain this to the nation.

      richard.t.holman - 2012-06-06 00:26

      The article does explain it. The host Nation arranges all those kind of things, it has nothing to do with the team. Good on the manager for making sure it won't happen again.

      Christopher - 2012-06-06 00:52

      craig dim...they are athletes who did not have a say how the National anthem should be sung... they played for their country and thats all it is...I am proud.

      Nick - 2012-06-06 05:04

      you're a muppet dude they don't have to explain anything and definitely not to you if you actually knew anything about anything then you'll know organizers of sporting events are responsible for each nations anthem fifa screwed up our anthem prior to world cup

      tanya.retief - 2012-06-06 08:14

      It's explained in the article. If you knew how sporting events worked, you wouldn't be asking this question. How ignorant. Do you think teams and individual sports persons go to international gaming events with a mix tape of anthems they would like to hear in their backpacks? Lol. Why don't you ask the ORGANISERS of the HOST NATION to explain it? Ignoramus.

  • Burtfred - 2012-06-05 23:08

    Die stem still forms part of the new SA national anthem - and your point is?

  • brendoncarpenter1 - 2012-06-05 23:15

    Wow, this article changes faster than the comments... Almost makes all previous comments irrelevant? Even the headline changes in no-time at all!

  • sean.bagley.50 - 2012-06-05 23:28

    Honest mistake. Something similar or worse can happen to any other nation out there.No harm done right. So lets just leave it at that and move on to watching our ladies hammer the Poms at hockey. Nice!!!!!!!!!!!

      Psyborge - 2012-06-05 23:51

      Apparently the Borat version of the Kazak anthem was played to kazak dignataries somewhere...

  • gareth.jones.7771 - 2012-06-05 23:38

    Well as long as they fix it next match, no harm done I'd say.

  • charmaine.rowlands - 2012-06-05 23:48

    o good grief, it's an anthem, part of our history. It doesn't threaten peoples lives, there's no hate speech. By next week it's forgotten. Yet ANOTHER storm in a teacup. Let it be. Well done, girls

  • Dakey - 2012-06-06 00:20

    "We don't like the old anthem, and we don't want it played. No doubt," she said. The Old Anthem is PART OF the current anthem. Saying 'We don't like the Old Anthem' is a bit of an insult. That is the same as saying 'We don't like Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika' ... Tell me Galloway, when you sing our current anthem, do you NOT sing the Afrikaans and English parts? You do realise that is part of the old anthem right? The 'correct' thing to do would be simply to ask for an apology. Not playing a country's correct national anthem is inexcusable.

      herman.burger.5 - 2012-06-06 00:42

      Very sloppy by "legendary" Pom standards. Perhaps they hoped to distract our team. Would not put it past the Poms.

      Abby - 2012-06-06 03:58

      These bloody agents...those are revolutionay girls.

      John - 2012-06-06 08:22

      The "old anthem" does not include Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika. Sung on it's own, it's a very strong signal of the apartheid era. Similarly the original Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika does not include "Die Stem". They combined them for a reason. On their own, both are incorrect, although I'd hazard that Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika does not bring as much negative baggage as "Die Stem" possibly does. Saying they don't like (Die Stem - sung on it's own) it is therefore perfectly reasonable. I really don't get your point Dakeyras. Ras Dumisani messed up our own national anthem in France. These things happen. The "correct" thing is to accept it's simple mistake, and carry on. Seriously; it's a song sung at a women's hockey tournament (not to disregard the importance of women's hockey): nobody will be any the worse, trust me.

      Dakey - 2012-06-06 09:47

      @John Please explain to me which parts of 'Die Stem' or for that matter Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika is offensive? Specific words please. I find both beautiful and proudly sing all parts of both in our new national anthem. Die Stem was written as a poem in 1918. Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika was written as a hymn in 1897. Both sung on their own in isolation is non-offensive, certainly in stark contrast to 'Shoot the Boer'. I understand that singing either song as a replacement for OUR national anthem is insensitive, however an English speaking South African saying 'We don't like the old anthem and we don't want it played' is also very insulting. It is akin to a white south african saying 'We don't like the original "Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika". No, we DO like both Die Stem as well as Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika and because of this we've combined both into our new national anthem. If any South African has a problem with either of these songs, they have a problem with our national anthem. There is no place in our country for whites who only sing the latter half of our anthem or blacks who only sing the former. Watch the test vs the English at Port Elizabeth end of this month and try understand what its all about.

      John - 2012-06-06 10:39

      @Dakeyras You're getting defensive and pedantic now. Chill... It's not about specific words; nobody said it was. But try and be a bit sensitive here; substituting "Die Stem" for the national anthem is the issue, and the hockey players were right (I feel) in saying they don't like Die Stem playing. So, for the sake of clarity, it's not that they (nor I) have a problem with "Die Stem" in particular. It's very much a part of this country's history, and means a lot to a lot of people. However, it is not the anthem. View the comments in the context in which they were made, it helps things a great deal. PS: for the record, anybody (English or otherwise) can say they don't like it. True; it may offend you, but the luxury of freedom of choice means they get to choose what they like and don't like. For you to be offended is a bit petty. To not like "Die Stem" doesn't mean they have a problem with our anthem. Not in the slightest. Die Stem (on it's own) was the anthem of an Apartheid state. There is no getting around that fact. However, that state is part of our history, hence it's inclusion into our national anthem. "Die Stem" IS NOT the anthem. It is now just a song. If it signifies that part of our repulsive past to certain people (when sung on it's own), they have every right to not like it, wouldn't you think?

      Dakey - 2012-06-06 13:11

      @John: "they have every right to not like it, wouldn't you think? " As an individual, you have a right to like or dislike whatever you want. You even have a right to be racist. As a representative of South Africa you do not have a right to make a generalised statement such as 'We don't like the old anthem, and we don't want it played." The old anthem is part of our new anthem. The simple answer would have been 'We like our current anthem to be played instead of old anthem'. If the Springboks play New Zealand and Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika (in its entirety) is played instead of our current anthem, would it be acceptable for any Springbok staff to make a public statement claiming 'we don't like Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika'? Clearly Galloway was in the wrong and while I don't want to vilify her, I certainly feel she would need to clarify her statement. In one careless statement she has managed to insult a pretty significant portion of the South African public who proudly sing all of our current national anthem. They don't share her sentiments.

  • tshepokealogile - 2012-06-06 00:41

    Hey geez I have read all comments here! It was truli a genuine mistakes why should you hurl ugly words to one another. Dis nie ayoba nie. What baffels me the most is that, was effort did the organizers made to find our anthem. Surely if I google it I will find it.

      tanya.retief - 2012-06-06 08:18

      Jeez Lushaka, that's just kind of stupid on their part. But hey! We're Saffas, we forgive sincere apologies. I also believe they should've gooi'd a quick google. :) It's pretty dismal playing a countries anthem wrong!

      Dakey - 2012-06-06 14:09

      @Lushaka The Old Flag of South Africa was not an 'apartheid' flag any more than Boney M was the Apartheid holiday anthem... Again the Old Flag came into existence in 1928, more than 30 years prior to apartheid.

  • herman.burger.5 - 2012-06-06 00:43

    Malema was right: They are all agents!

  • newbornr - 2012-06-06 01:02

    South Africa, ranked 12th in the world, stunned Great Britain, rated "third", with a 3-1 victory in their opening match of the London Cup tournament. They face Germany, ranked "third" in the world, in their next match on Wednesday night. Is there a difference between ratings and rankings ? I think Sport24 has been smoking its socks again?

      Phupoo - 2012-06-06 07:59

      hahaha lol

  • alfred.neumann.142 - 2012-06-06 01:17

    The poms should consider themselves lucky that the ANCYL isn't there to "display their displeasure" with the usual break-it-burn-it-loot-it method like they do here ;) So, who's ranked third in the world? Is it GB or Germany?

      fikile.makhaya - 2012-06-06 06:55

      Clearly u've neva seen the Brits on a rampage! U'd pray 4 Malema 2 March evryday

  • WernerZA - 2012-06-06 03:13

    I'd say play this version... It clearly inspires the girls to bigger and better things! Who knows, soon they too will be ranked THIRD.

      Warren Nel - 2012-06-06 04:48

      I think some other teams might be THIRD too!! good place to be it seems

  • Limpie Radyn - 2012-06-06 04:02

    I say we should send 2 MPs plus entorage, 4 consultants and a team from the ANCYL,ANCWL and COSATU to investigate this horendous event. They can stay in The Ritz for two weeks. Bloody agents! Well done girls.

  • Warren - 2012-06-06 05:10

    We beat them,that's all that matters,move on

  • ndumiso.mncwango - 2012-06-06 05:36

    So both germany and great britain are rated third?

  • zama.mhlongo.14 - 2012-06-06 05:37

    GBR is 'rated third' whilst Germany is 'ranked third'. Whatever the difference is. I wonder which weighs more though

      fikile.makhaya - 2012-06-06 06:51

      Nah, GBR is \seeded\ 3rd in th Tournament while Germany is ranked 3rd in the World Rankings

      Vaaldonkie - 2012-06-06 15:45

      And we are third rate.

  • Tax - 2012-06-06 05:40

    Just play Banana Republic by Bob Geldof.

  • pat.pugheparry - 2012-06-06 06:09

    Well done ladies. You are going to bring back the gold, I know.

  • leslie.depinho1 - 2012-06-06 06:47

    Finally some hope for bafana bafana.lol

  • phillip.beukes.5 - 2012-06-06 06:58

    They were awesome... made the Poms look like a 3rd rate team.... They should show more hokey.... seems they are doing better than some of better known sports, like rugby and soccer....

  • raymond.abrahamse - 2012-06-06 07:00

    Maybe the British people still love 'Die Stem vam Siud Afrika' and prefer it to what we have now.It's only Words.'ONS VIR JOU SUID AFRIKA'-CJ Langenhoven.Still a great Anthem.

  • musa.gatsheni - 2012-06-06 07:08

    y dnt our sportman nd sportswoman walk away immediately wen they hear dt our national anthem s nt sang correctly.

      Tyrone - 2012-06-06 11:56

      Because they are not there to hear the anthem! They are there to play the sport!!

  • hilton.haley - 2012-06-06 07:21

    Makes you wonder who is writing these story clearly people with issues,the main thing is they won,once you mention the old afrikaans national anthem then it becomes a racial thing cant we pass the old and get in with the new,PLEASE NEWS24 YOU SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING A COUNTRY NOT ADDING FUEL TO THE FIRE GET OVER IT

  • Nigel - 2012-06-06 07:30

    it is a bit of a cock-up

  • LouisBok - 2012-06-06 07:35

    That's why they won! Catch a wake up galloway. England 3rd. Germany also 3rd. Please play it again Sam.

  • pvuuren - 2012-06-06 07:37

    check out the score... the same " Mix-up" happpend a few years ago in the U.S, with the soccer team, they won aswell...

  • Fanie - 2012-06-06 07:39

    Congrants girls - well done You guys are forgetting something - Die Stem IS still part of the national anthem nothing wrong with it - indeed it is an unbelievably beautiful poem - calling out to a nation to stand together, work together, and die defending it from all sides of the country The original Ex Unitate Vires on the national shield - which means "from unity, strength" beautiful. The replacement !ke e:/xarra//ke in the Khoisan language of the /Xam people, and means "diverse people unite" just as good and I like it Unfortunately most current national emblems only do one thing divide the nation very deeply as there is no focus on working together rather the way it is being handled is destroying history, and by that destroying the soul and integrity of the nation as a whole. [And}If you know where you come from , you know who you are and where you are going, but if the knowledge where you come from is based on a lie, you are rudderless and will founder. What does the Springbok, die Stem has to do with racism? Absolutely nothing But for some reason the Springbok is being replaced by the Protea - Konings Protea, but still, why? We HAD unified national colours - now it is a mishmash. ALL sport, with the exception of cricket as far as I can recall had Sprinkbok colours as the highest national honor. So what I am saying is we should all grow up, recognize each others histories, our places in it, our differences, and start working together

  • william.hallett.9 - 2012-06-06 07:48

    DIE STEM, HELPED THEM WIN. WELL DONE GIRLS.

  • tessa.rothner - 2012-06-06 08:12

    Well done ladies! Very proud of you!

  • tessa.rothner - 2012-06-06 08:13

    Well done girls! Very proud of you despite all the petty rubbish.

  • ronald.radebe - 2012-06-06 08:20

    I'm sure the song was better than listening to Ras Dumisane singing the national anthem....lmao!!!

  • michael.barns.1 - 2012-06-06 08:47

    The Afrikaaners are super happy today! Mistake my ass, hahaha... The potjies, braaivleis, blitong and beer must be flowing today! hahaha

      michael.barns.1 - 2012-06-06 16:44

      I love how people just believe that they had a 15 year old copy of, "Die Stem" just lying around... sure sure people, simple mistake, just like flying the old flag, mistakes happen... whatever....

  • Johann - 2012-06-06 09:00

    "...stunned Great Britain, rated third...", "...face Germany, ranked third in the world..." Now who is actually rated third; Britain or Germany? Or is there is difference between rating and ranking?

  • erik.p.vanwyk - 2012-06-06 09:01

    Maybe we should all sing "Die Stem" at a Bulls game,that way they can also win! 8)

  • elspeth.hassall - 2012-06-06 09:05

    Only saw the second half on TV last night...they were awesome...well done girls!!!

  • Marco - 2012-06-06 09:06

    "We don't like the old anthem, and we don't want it played. No doubt," she said. SMCYUDWWSNS

  • markvonbentheim - 2012-06-06 09:07

    Give them a break about the anthem ... it's Queenies Diamond Jubilee and everyone's being going on about the Commonwealth ... so maybe they thought it was worth harking back to the days Britannia still ruled the waves and Empire

  • Marco - 2012-06-06 09:09

    GOOD OLD CJ LANGENHOVEN KNEW HOW TO WRITE A CATCHY TUNE. ALL YOU CAN DO IS HIT A BALL WITH A STICK . HOW USEFUL.

      Julie - 2012-06-06 15:05

      Langenhoven did NOT write a catchy tune - he wrote DIE STEM as a very beautiful and stirring poem in the early 1900's, and it was set to music by A de Villiers. An equally beautiful English translation followed, and this anthem was regarded as one of THE most stirring throughout the world while it was still our anthem - and it's the ony one I will recognise, anyway. Inkosi Sikelele Africa (God bless AFrica) was also written as a song, but the way things are here now, God is certainly NOT blessing Africa... how can He do so when He has even been written out of the so-called 'constitution?'

  • Dean - 2012-06-06 09:31

    how can england and germany both be ranked 3rd in the world?

      sean.bagley.50 - 2012-06-06 09:52

      In News24's minds they are,but not in reality. Its simple, you get that.News24 editors needs to catch a wake up real soon or they'd be made to look even worse later on by something else if they carry on like this.

  • Malungisa - 2012-06-06 10:43

    We support u ladies by doing that SA will be on the Map/or respectated by all nation

  • sadrick.lottering - 2012-06-06 19:15

    err... (sigh)

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