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'Too white' CSA board criticised

2012-10-17 15:23

Cape Town - A race row has erupted after a key figure in the selection process of the new Cricket South Africa (CSA) board criticised it for being "too white".

This comes after the Board of Directors of CSA completed the selection process of the five Independent Directors to serve on the new board of CSA which will be constituted at the annual general meeting later this month.

The following appointments were announced on Tuesday:

• Louis von Zeuner (chairperson)
• Dawn Mokhobo
• Vusi Pikoli
• Mohamed Iqbal Khan
• Geoff Whyte

However, there appears to be unhappiness with the racial composition of the board, especially after Cape Town-based advocate Norman Arendse's name was omitted.

According to the IOL website, Shawn Christiansen was head of an independent interim nominations committee appointed by the acting CSA board to find the five new independent board members. Christiansen, along with Denver Hendricks, Brian O’Connell and Ansie Ramahlo advertised the call for nominations from August 13 to September 14 and later submitted their selection.

Their nomination for the new chairperson was Arendse, followed by Mokhobo, Pikoli, Von Zeuner and Iqbal Khan. They also recommended that Whyte and Julian Smith play key roles in sub-committees.

However, on Tuesday the CSA board confirmed that it wanted Mokhobo, Pikoli, Von Zeuner and Khan, but dismissed Arendse both as a board member and as chairperson. Von Zeuner was then made chairperson, with Whyte in Arendse’s place - a decision which upset Christiansen, leaving him questioning the "demographics" of the board.

He feels it's problematic that CSA has appointed a white chairperson, because cricket in SA “already has white captains, a white coach and a white CEO and a white acting president” - a reference to skippers Graeme Smith and AB de Villiers, Gary Kirsten, Jacques Faul and Willie Basson.

“The coloured community in South Africa makes up an important constituency of cricket... as does the Indian community and the white community.

“We wanted to make sure that all our communities and races are sufficiently represented on this committee. So... we nominated Norman Arendse.”

Sport24

Comments
  • cindy.mackenzie.75 - 2012-10-17 15:44

    When are we ever going to get past this nonsense and give the position to the most qualified person!!! No wonder our crickets in the mess it is and it starts at schoolboy level.

      bakkies.botha.39 - 2012-10-17 16:56

      Want hulle is SA!!! Ons is dom en klaar!!!!!

  • zaatheist - 2012-10-17 15:44

    Of you are not good enough to be chosen on merit then play the race card. It works every time.

  • robert.devilliers1 - 2012-10-17 15:44

    daar gaan ons al weer..

  • dave.leverton - 2012-10-17 15:46

    Oh boo hoo. How about you look at the SAFA board http://www.safa.net/index.php?page=committee1 and then just shut up.

      dave.leverton - 2012-10-17 16:10

      40 NEC members 2 of them white.

  • duane.vanvuuren - 2012-10-17 15:47

    Oh boy! Here we go again! Never mind how we perform on the field or if the person elected is best qualified for the job...as long as there's a non-white in charge...

  • sean.odonnell.1466126 - 2012-10-17 15:48

    They are all South Africans... and THAT should be the most important criteria...

  • dino.bravo.560 - 2012-10-17 15:48

    i agree with article

      Kevin - 2012-10-17 16:49

      @DINO Just like your name... short of stature and brains.

      dawood.timol - 2012-10-17 18:01

      @ Kevin what makes u say that anyone that disagrees with your standpoint is short of brains. You do not have a reasonable viewpoint, hence the insulting. B4 u comment, pls read, think and then spew

  • desertratbkf - 2012-10-17 15:48

    Go to Adult World and find yourself something very large and PLEASING!!! GFY!

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-10-17 15:49

    If whites left cricket there would be no sa cricket. Blacks can't get their soccer right but they want to tell others what to do. Next thing we will have Juju singing for cricket freedom

      Priesterb - 2012-10-17 15:53

      Mmmm Douglas did you read the article? This time it’s not about the blacks........

      tshepo.selelane - 2012-10-17 16:00

      Dude you are just as ignorant as Mr Christiansen. Both of you should just shut the ef up and just go enjoy the cricket at the stadium. Get over yourself boet!

      douglas.reid.921 - 2012-10-17 16:29

      Correct Priesterb, its about whites, too many on cs board, did I miss something???

      Priesterb - 2012-10-17 16:39

      Douglas they way I understand the article is that it is our brown brothers complaining as they wish for wider representation.

  • dino.bravo.560 - 2012-10-17 15:49

    we need change

      desertratbkf - 2012-10-17 15:54

      There is nothing wrong with change! But for feeble excuses like this is outrageous! It's like a half wit walks into a hospital and says "I want to be a doctor"! You EARN it! You dont just TAKE it! AND by the way, its called WEK, something the majority dont understand. Its all about WANT! and DEMAND!

      bakkies.botha.39 - 2012-10-17 16:12

      Dino, jy het hulp nodig my maat

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-10-17 15:50

    How many more years until South Africans will be appointed to whatever position instead of race identities. We are becoming more and more dysfunctional in all respects.

  • ludick.media - 2012-10-17 15:50

    Wasnt norman arendse made to step down because of financial irregularities ?

  • gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-17 15:50

    Unfortenately this political bickering is going to plague SA sport forever.

  • nicki.coertze - 2012-10-17 15:52

    18 Years into the new dispensation, I would hate to be chosen on the basis of my race. If my ability does not cut it I do not deserve to be there. Also it should be a falacy that races are supported by the presence of a person of that race on the board. Surely the whole board represents South Africa and not people of their own skin.

  • heathway.master - 2012-10-17 15:55

    The coloureds are really a jolly good bunch, as they do not to a man, vote ANC. Give Arendse the liberty to chirp, if he feels angry and disappointed.

      Erna - 2012-10-17 16:30

      That's fine if he didn't use the race card. He's a sore loser.

  • native.rsa - 2012-10-17 16:03

    Vusi Pikoli that's a joke they couldn't do better that really now

  • trevor.pietersen.3 - 2012-10-17 16:03

    And the Soccer board...and SOCCER TEAM??????

      desertratbkf - 2012-10-17 16:08

      An embarrassment to the nation!

      joe.mangena.1 - 2012-10-17 16:16

      There's no problem with soccer board, \r\nit's south AFRICAn anyway.

      keith.snyman.7 - 2012-10-17 16:16

      Yes, I agree...Why is there no uproar because the entire SOCCER TEAM is black !!!!!! and look at how they perform . oh for goodness sake...this race card is sooooooooooo pathetic. When will people realize that people should be in a position due to their ability and NOT their skin colour.

      hummer.hlophe - 2012-10-17 18:44

      keith snyman dean furman,ricardo nunes,gordon ig,wayne sandillands to name just for sean the cheapest ticket is now 60 bucks how about we get informed peeps?

      Paul - 2012-10-17 20:12

      Sean calm down,we all know that ur a racist

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-10-17 16:04

    You use race if you lose or aim for what you don't deserve or are not competent to deliver. Old tactic in SA. Nevermind that the results can be catastrophic.

  • bakkies.botha.39 - 2012-10-17 16:04

    What a buch of Bollox!!!

  • tumisang.kolobe - 2012-10-17 16:06

    Nonsense Norman must just rest!!The board is fine....

  • trevor.dean.10 - 2012-10-17 16:07

    Obsession with race again. I don't care what race any of them are, as long as they do what they are appointed to do, and do it well!

  • Mandla - 2012-10-17 16:08

    u are represented, there is white an black,Eng,ind,so,afri and u speak afrikaans an engl which mean u in two times then stop crying an let the job begin.

  • ShethMohammed - 2012-10-17 16:09

    This is Rubbish. What does sport got anything to do with race. Bafana is only Black besides the coach. Atleast cricket and Rugby have other races in the squad. The Sport directors pick the best people to win the country and bring pride to the nation which brings all races togather, not by picking below par players and loosing a tournement than criticising the Sports team when they cant even pick their own team without race interventions coming into play. Come On South Africa. Everyone is equal, The rainbow nation means we do not look at race but we are all equal. Than why does colour keep coming into context in everything that happens in South Africa. WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS

      hummer.hlophe - 2012-10-17 18:46

      dean furman,ricardo nunes,wayne sandillands are not black,moron

      ShethMohammed - 2012-10-18 10:55

      In that case I can name soo many players in Rugby and Cricket which are not white, unlike Bafana where we can name them in one hand. But my point is not that football should have white players, my point is pick players, workers, employees etc. on their skills and qualifications and not colour because by picking them on colour is showing that we are not living in unity, and if that is the case, than am Sorry to say but South Africa cannot be called the Rainbow Nation but if people are all treated equally with no discrimination at all, that is the only time South Africa can be called the Rainbow Nation.

  • peter.kreuger.7 - 2012-10-17 16:09

    and the ball is to red!

  • fidel.damons - 2012-10-17 16:11

    Norman Arendse is a D*@&s of the highest proportions. I for one do not want to see him near Cricket in this country. When he was president he regularly interfered in team selection. Even in Biff said in his autobiography that Norman wanted to coach, captain, convenor or selectors and president of Cricket SA. He regularly told the team who to pick. It is only after his exit that we became a total force in test cricket and when team selections were based on merit. And before anyone says I am racist - I am coloured and I don't want this bloody vis vreter near my SA team.

      denver.fourie - 2012-10-22 18:02

      DONT THINK YOU ARE COLOURED BOETIE BOY WITH THAT COMMENTS

  • leedsunitedfc - 2012-10-17 16:12

    Obsessed with race. What a continuous joke.

  • david.khasebe - 2012-10-17 16:14

    Norman just wants job for himself and makes it a race issue.

  • Tiaan Liebenberg - 2012-10-17 16:15

    Shame, there goes his cut-back. Now who to approach?

      brad.wagenaar.5 - 2012-10-17 17:41

      Aargh, look at it positively... A mate of mine was a gynie & he got retrenched... He's now a mechanic & can give your vehicle or bike a full service, through the exhaust pipe!!! Now that to me, is positive thinking!!!

  • annelise.vanderschyff - 2012-10-17 16:15

    Siestog!!!!shame kry vir julle

  • darryl.maze1 - 2012-10-17 16:17

    Oh you you bloody people get over playing the race card. just because you werent chosen as the chair person now you say its racist. Christiansen! get over youself and go join the rest of the race card player under the rock. You yourself are being racist.

      mfundo.radebe1 - 2012-10-17 17:40

      We have a long way to go hey!!! Using the race card seems to be normal in South Africa now!

  • siphiwo.maurice - 2012-10-17 16:17

    Tell me South Africans, when are your minds transformed and let it go, the race card? This sickens me a lot. Even well educated individuals, will eventually resort to race when their ways are blocked and or the other. Let us all learn from Smangaliso Sobukwe when he observed, " There is only one race, Human race". The only way forward in this beloved country, is to stop looking at your skin, look at the brains and competency.

      mahomedrafeek.goolam - 2012-10-17 17:49

      Great my man,what a beautiful country this would be if only we look at each other as humans and not the colour of our skin.

  • Hein Van Wyk - 2012-10-17 16:18

    the sky is too blue...

      mfundo.radebe1 - 2012-10-17 17:38

      Haha!

  • terry.ferreira.84 - 2012-10-17 16:19

    Surprised that no one has complained about the T20 and ODI balls being white. Or is it that they don't mind, cause then they can whack something white when they feel like it. It's days like this that I am so ashamed to be a South African.Rainbow nation is a joke. People really need to actually stop wasting time worrying about colour, and start looking at merit. I can guarantee you that if you asked Duminy or Petersen, if they lost their form and started to play really badly one day, would they want to still be part of the team? They would tell you no, cause there are other players who are in better form, and it is supposed to be about the team. Not the individual. Stop being selfish and just play the game!

      fidel.damons - 2012-10-17 16:52

      That is exactly right Terry. In 2008 Charl Langevelt got chosen over Andre Nel to tour the subcontinent due to Norman's influence. Lange's was not at the time the best man for the job and he knew it. When he was told about his selection instead of being happy about it he just felt disappointed. Every sportsman in SA wants to represent his country as the best in his field, not as some racial quota player.

      mahomedrafeek.goolam - 2012-10-17 17:44

      Correct,Merit should be the only reason one gets to represent his or Her country. Take Amla,he has proven his worth in the team.Why must colour always be an Issue,if you talented,you talanted,represent your country,Indians,Coloureds and Whites don't complain about Bafana Bafana,Gordon is the coach,which was the right choice,and he selects players on merit and we all support them,not the colour of their skin,Period.

  • johan.mostert.986 - 2012-10-17 16:22

    Ek kan nie glo dat ons nog suurgatte in die land het wanneer dit kom by die kies van mense vir 'n joppie nie. Hoe langer ons gaan neuk oor kleurgrense heen hoe langer gaan ons ons gat sien. Best man for the job is the rule and must it stay like that. Well done Dr Willie and your Board for your choices. EN AAN AL DIE SUURGATTE - VREDE VIR JULLE.

  • jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-10-17 16:22

    Ohhh booo frikken hooo,, cry me a frikken river. Like little spoilt children who's sweeties were taken away from them. Earn your spot then represent your country. Who cares what color they are. As long as they do the job, and do it well.

      mfundo.radebe1 - 2012-10-17 17:37

      That's true! Who cares if there are more whites than black, coloured or Indian? Just cause the guy is coloured doesn't mean he deserves it. Isn't there something called merit these days! Gosh

  • Jacques - 2012-10-17 16:36

    Zzzzzzz

  • brad.wagenaar.5 - 2012-10-17 16:43

    How can it be "too white"? There's not enough whites left in SA, to make it "too white"! We either bolting out of here for our lives or being turned down for jobs that we're 100% qualified for... SA's new name: Boswell Wilkie Circus - & we can't even help put the tent up, cause we "too white"!!!

      philemonmaepa.phatlane - 2012-10-17 16:54

      why say so meneer?forget about what white were living before and concentrate on building new s.a

      brad.wagenaar.5 - 2012-10-17 17:25

      We would love to help build a new SA, but how the hell can we, when noone wants to hire us...?! Think looooooong & haaaaard about that 1 my friend ;)

  • Kevin - 2012-10-17 16:48

    Shawn Christiansen .... what a WOP you are. You were part of the decision-making team selected to nominate members for the Board and I am sure your mandate would have included choosing the best person for the job. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. Your Coloured friend didn't make it because he was a political and "politically correct" choice - not because he would be good for SA Cricket. To hell with other "Whites" in leadership positions in the team. They are there on merit and not because some stuffed up person chose them over a politically correct selection. THEY CAN DO THE JOB - THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS !!!

  • MarkSchrade1980 - 2012-10-17 16:49

    Ag just fire every white person that has a job in this country already. Seems like ppl will never be happy until whites have been driven out of every job in this country....

  • Kevin - 2012-10-17 16:53

    Shawn Christiansen ... you are a simple bigot who didn't get his selection onto the panel and you now pull the race card again. When will you learn that the best man for the job should get it. That's why others in the team have been selected - BECAUSE THEY ARE THE BEST ...and not the best black skin. Wake up you giant half-prick

  • mahomedrafeek.goolam - 2012-10-17 17:22

    WTF,why always colour,don't we select people on merit anymore,This country needs a wake up call.there is to much corruption in all departments of our Gov,all we need to do is put competent people,if White so be it. Why must colour always be an issue.I think its time to move on. Our International teams must also be chosen on merit.We are all South Africans,Black,White.Indian and Coloureds.This is our land of birth,just as much as it is your's.

  • lionel.schultz.1 - 2012-10-17 17:26

    “The coloured community in South Africa makes up an important constituency of cricket... as does the Indian community and the white community." If this is the case, then why are there two black board members?

  • dehlia.fredericks - 2012-10-17 17:33

    oh so boring! soccer 2 black....get a life?

      hummer.hlophe - 2012-10-17 18:51

      what has soccer got to do with this coz it was your colored brothers that complained

  • pierre.walt - 2012-10-17 17:38

    No merit only selection based on demographics? Racism again. When the f$$k will you stop racism and select the best?

  • clive.priestman - 2012-10-17 18:46

    Here we go again

  • Richard.vanzyl2000 - 2012-10-17 20:11

    It is never going to stop, they forget that there was a negotiated settlement, but they act unilaterally as if they seized the power from whites. Whites are not considered for employment, if they dare win in competitions like Idols, they're racist and they're simply taken out of the competition. I bet if all sport were not professional, cricket and rugby wouldn't have interested them. Whites, colourds and Indians are going to find themselves more and more excluded from chances to compete fairly in all spheres of society.

  • Paul - 2012-10-17 20:28

    True!

  • dragonfire47 - 2012-10-17 20:50

    why dosent safa get some whites into the team and start winning some internationals or can you only beat african teams in friendlies but not qualify for the afcon, morons

  • sa.gunner.5 - 2012-10-17 21:24

    It's a petty that this ogre is rearing its head. I have been watching a lot of SA recently and I like what I see. We must just ensure fairness and I'll be happy. I am not against Norman Arendse but it is better to journey on without him, given his autocratic and crass nature, covered in a post below. I am disappointed in Christiansen as he nowhere says that he and Arendse are actually buddies and played club cricket together for the same club! Nepotism that failed perhaps in this instance? Perhaps Christiansen should have revealed his conflict of interest in punting for Arendse, rather than using the 'race card' and try to further divide SA society? I can also ask Why Kleinveld instead of Tsotsobe, who has, I believe, been given a raw deal for the Aussie tour. What plans do CSA have for Titans' opening bowler Mbhlati who to me is a far better prospect to have taken on tour, and Phangiso. Why was Levi chosen ahead of Henry Davids for recent WT20. Now before you compartmentalise me I just one openness and fairness. Even the make-up of the nominations contradicts Christiansen "... make sure that all our communities and races are sufficiently represented on this committee. So... we nominated Norman Arendse." in the form of Christiansen himself, O'Connell and Denver Hendricks which made the committee unrepresentatibe. It is important that we have fairness of cricket at heart rather than pursuing devious agendas.

  • leonard.bulle - 2012-10-17 22:39

    Dalk is die man reg.....in rugby het ons 'n All Black span en hulle is die wereld kampioene. So dalk moet ons dit hier ook doen????