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Selection panel is 'outdated'

2010-01-27 22:34

Altus Momberg

Cape Town – The days of a selection panel in South African cricket are apparently over following the sacking of the selectors on Wednesday.

Cricket South Africa (CSA) chief executive Gerald Majola announced on Wednesday that Mike Procter (convenor), Craig Matthews, Mustapha Khan and Winkie Ximaya had been axed.

Majola (caretaker convenor), Corrie van Zyl (coach) and Kepler Wessels (batting consultant) will pick the team during the forthcoming series against India.

It appears as if South African cricket bosses have decided that the concept of a selection panel is outdated and that only one national selector will in future assist the coach with the selection of the team.

The restructuring of the selection panel will be completed as soon as the Proteas have a new coach.

Matthews told Sport24 on Wednesday that the news had come as a shock.

“We had no idea that CSA wanted to get rid of us. But I have to say that nothing surprises me in South African cricket,” said the former Proteas seamer.

“Gerald informed us that the board felt that the selection process is flawed and that is why we have been axed.”

Matthews does not believe that he lost his position because his performance was not up to scratch.

“It’s not as if CSA decided that the four of us could not do the job and appointed four others. They decided that the concept of a selection committee does not work in modern cricket,” he said.

“I don’t have any problem with that. CSA are in charge of cricket in the country and must take the decisions that they believe are in the game’s best interests. They must also take responsibility for the team’s performances.”

Matthews added that he would be furious if they appointed four new selectors to pick the team after the restructuring.

Wessels confirmed on Wednesday that he would accompany the team to India.

“I have been asked to work as batting consultant and assist Corrie van Zyl (caretaker coach),” said Wessels.

He added that he would only be a selector for this tour.

“I have a long association with SuperSport and they have given me leave to help the Proteas. It will be difficult to serve as a selector on a long-term basis. CSA don’t like their selectors doing broadcasting and I am very loyal to SuperSport,” said Wessels.

 

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Comments
  • mike - 2010-01-27 23:18

    What's that noise ahead - I think I hear the gravy train approaching station CSA in the near future. HOPEFULLY im being pessimistic and the games interest are best at hand.

  • Rob - 2010-01-27 23:53

    @mike I'm afraid I agree, but also hope we're wrong and sport wins

  • Jo - 2010-01-28 00:14

    Kepler Wessels Will destroy the game...

  • bc - 2010-01-28 00:22

    This debacle will end in tears. Flogging scapegoats to divert attention from the failings of CSA (read: ANC agenda) only fools buffoons. How on earth can a coach or selection panel achieve transformation? That is the job of the Ministry of Sport, in tandem with the Ministry of Education (school sport) and Local government (infrastructure). Crazy, delirious, idiotic, arse-covering, incompetent cronies. SA's parasitic scurge.

  • Shakes - 2010-01-28 00:22

    Not only is the concept of selectors outdated, the traditional powers of the captain is unhealthy too and is in my opinion so old fashioned and amateurish. Then again cricket is notorious for it's slow paced change in the modern professional era. The time is now for CSA to break out and change the setup to something similar what we have in football and rugby today. No player should be bigger than the manager/coach.

  • Mike G - 2010-01-28 01:46

    Typical of SA sport, A little glitch in performance levels and panic breaks out, sack everyone you can point a finger at, destroy the structure completely...sure this will fix it. Please don't think it through and identify positive actions, that would be ridiculous. Break it completely and start again. Amatures, we'll never realy compete with Australia, they are structured, organised and professional, all the things that we are against.

  • Hennie - 2010-01-28 01:59

    THE REAL ISSUE - Should get rid of schoolboy, Graeme Smith, he has no fighting spirit. Make Johan Botha captain, he has real leadership qualities, fighting spirit, desire to win and an excellent track record especially against the Aussies and that in Australia.

  • russel cook - 2010-01-28 03:03

    why is kepler wessels nicknamed chopper

  • Tommygun - 2010-01-28 03:11

    Out coach! Out selectors! So what the hell is Barnes still doing there? He should have been the first to go!

  • Nasdaq7 - 2010-01-28 03:28

    I didn't like the selections they made and I am a cricket fan for many a decade. Spinners on fast bowling tracks. No spinners on spin bowling tracks, just fast bowlers. Fast bowlers on slow tracks. It was just crazy. I think we lost 2 world cups due to stupid selections. It might not change for the better, but it sure is bad right now.

  • George - 2010-01-28 04:13

    Transformation is a scapegout for "gravy train" That is all it is. Maybe we should change the logo again, do away with the Protea and change it to something everyone can read ......RDP .

  • Babba - 2010-01-28 06:29

    And so the politicians have moved in. Not long before they too will follow the demise like Bafana Bafana

  • @Shakes - 2010-01-28 06:36

    Shakes. What planet are you living on because is obviously is planet earth. Planet of the apes maybe? No player is greater than the manager / coach. I'm afraid to say that each of the players in the SA setup are greater than both Corrie (caretaker) and Gerald (the ar$ewipe). Without great players there would be no team worth coaching - not if you want to maintain the current rankings those players put the team in. I hope and pray that Majola does not have his way - that is competing and hoping to be the likes of Zimbabwe, Namibia and Kenya. That's where it's headed if CSA (read ANC) has it's way.

  • peter - 2010-01-28 06:49

    Yes, all of the above. selection panel, too white. Team, too white. Bafanabafana, too black. Transformation means something else as to what we are being told at news conferences. And this needs to cater for a game with financial gains as well.

  • MS - 2010-01-28 07:08

    Good move. If the coach and captain are responsible for strategy, having a separate selection panel is a bit of a disconnect. Having one selector assisting the coach is a very progressive and positive move. I don't think there's any malicious intent on Majola's part. He comes across as a sensible guy who has the best interests of cricket at heart. This is good for SA cricket.

  • Trevor - 2010-01-28 07:11

    CSA are free to run cricket in SA any way they want. We, the cricket fans who support and ultimately fund the game, are free to stay away if we don't like the product. We'll be watching you.

  • Hugh - 2010-01-28 07:20

    I have never seen Majola's cricketing credentials - has he played any representative cricket?If not how on earth can he be the sole selector for the national team???

  • danny - 2010-01-28 07:35

    Oh dear, and I thought that cricket was safe from political meddling,, to all you guys that have been calling for Mickey Arthurs head, lets hope that Corrie and Kepler are able to perform with the politicians selections. Please guys pick the best on merit only, in sport quota players are not able to make the grade at this level.

  • Larry - 2010-01-28 07:38

    Like everything else, it wont work. I just hope they wont do too much damage before they are convinved that they are killing the Golden Goose?

  • nick - 2010-01-28 07:41

    Shakes is on shaky ground. Football in SA isn't noted for good administration and I would say that in cricket the ranking is better than it has ever been in football. Having said which, I agree that a move to change the selection process in cricket is likely to improve the situation.

  • PhatCat - 2010-01-28 07:51

    @Shakes - I'm assuming you're being sarcastic? Let's all understand the nature of professional sports: if there are no good players, there is no public interest. If there is no public interest there is no sponsorship money. If there is no sponsorship money there is no funds to pay administrators and pay for administrative structures. Very simply put, administrators exist becuase of players, and not the other way around. If you had to rank the most important people in sport the ranking would look as follows: 1 - Players 2 - Fans 3 - Sponsors 4 - Administrators Does that make sense to you?

  • Khalid - 2010-01-28 07:51

    In rugby and Soccer there are no selectors, the coach has ultimate power and is not dictated to by the captain (worldwide). Its about time cricket adopted this policy. By the way I think Shane Warne is the man to coach SA

  • Johnno - 2010-01-28 07:52

    I think the best combination of coaches for SA will be Kirsten (head coach), Wessels (batting) Shaun Pollock (bowling)

  • GVA - 2010-01-28 08:02

    The concept of a coach is also outdated in SA sport.All you need is a comedian of 'colour' to entertain the media and let the team coach itself, like SA rugby does!

  • Benny - 2010-01-28 08:06

    Who ultimately carries responsibility for the success of a team? Many would say it is a shared responsibility between Capt., Coach and Selectors as they all have input and therefore influence the final result. Others would argue that the Captain can only work with the team the coach gives him whilst the coach can only choose a team from the players given him by the selectors. This then begs the question; if the team fails to perform are the areas of responsibility between Capt., Coach and Selectors sufficiently clearly defined for each of these parties to be held accountable for their role in the outcome? What then of the selectors - do they have the freedom to select players from the best available in the country? Clearly they DON'T!! In this country our beloved political leaders deem it necessary to enforce a transformation program that stipulates that National teams should be representative of the demographics of the country ie all teams, it seems, other than the national soccer team? So, if our politicians ultimately influence the make up of a team, and that team fails because it is not made up of the best available talent, do these politicians take responsibility for their actions? Clearly NOT!! When was the last time you saw a politician fired for poor performance? Yet we regularly see coaches; selectors et al fired because they could not get the desired results (from the poor material enforced on them). I personally do NOT have a problem with transformation if this means providing equal opportunity facilities for ALL irrespective of "colour" and the best man/woman gets selected irrespective of "colour".

  • Benny - 2010-01-28 08:08

    Who ultimately carries responsibility for the success of a team? Many would say it is a shared responsibility between Capt., Coach and Selectors as they all have input and therefore influence the final result. Others would argue that the Captain can only work with the team the coach gives him whilst the coach can only choose a team from the players given him by the selectors. This then begs the question; if the team fails to perform are the areas of responsibility between Capt., Coach and Selectors sufficiently clearly defined for each of these parties to be held accountable for their role in the outcome? What then of the selectors - do they have the freedom to select players from the best available in the country? Clearly they DON'T!! In this country our beloved political leaders deem it necessary to enforce a transformation program that stipulates that National teams should be representative of the demographics of the country ie all teams, it seems, other than the national soccer team? So, if our politicians ultimately influence the make up of a team, and that team fails because it is not made up of the best available talent, do these politicians take responsibility for their actions? Clearly NOT!! When was the last time you saw a politician fired for poor performance? Yet we regularly see coaches; selectors et al fired because they could not get the desired results (from the poor material enforced on them). I personally do NOT have a problem with transformation if this means providing equal opportunity facilities for ALL irrespective of "colour" and the best man/woman gets selected irrespective of "colour".

  • Philip - 2010-01-28 08:09

    @Shakes - Do you have any understanding of the game of cricket? It's quite apparent from your comments that you know nothing about the game. In cricket a captain can be on the field for 6 hours a day, and for 2 hours at a time, he has no direct communication with the coach at all. During those periods, a coach has almost no influence on the game, whilst the captian has all the influence. The captain needs to be bigger than the coach, as he is the one who must adapt to situations on the field as they unfold and make difficult calls without the coach's assistance. It's is totally unlike rugby, football or any other sport for that matter. It needs different approaches. There was nothing wrong with the selection panel. Now, one main maccie is going to have all the say in who gets selected. That is not going forward. That is sliding backwards on a slippery slope of sh*t.

  • bevan - 2010-01-28 08:20

    @MS I agree with you & I also agree we need an Aussie as our coach. Attitudes will be altered.

  • Semloh - 2010-01-28 08:29

    Slightly off the topic of the selection panel, but how the heck did Vincent Barnes keep his job as bowling coach? He's been there about 3 years longer than Mickey and is really stale now - bring in Polly or AD.....

  • PhatCat - 2010-01-28 08:30

    @Khalid - actually, in Cricket, worldwide, the Captain is at least equal to the coach, if not the most important person in the structure. The reason for this is that cricket is played in a very different way to soccer and rugby. Soccer and rugby matches are fast, flowing games where there is very little opportunity for the captain to directly influence the players or change the game-plan which had been designed and coached prior to the game. In cricket, particularly in Tests and ODI's, the game is much longer, much more static but far more nuanced and the captain has a far bigger role to play as conditions can change from minute to minute (think of changes in weather, changes in the condition of the ball, chnages in the pitch, different type of opposing batsmen etc. etc.) and the captain has to change the game strategy on the field in real time to accomodate these changes.

  • Soope Koos - 2010-01-28 08:49

    I do not think that 1 selector is good for any sport. I can not think of a single instance where input from other SPECIALISTS has not helped me to make a decision or to adapt my way of thinking. The same should apply to this situation. No single person will ever have the right answer for every situation. I truly hope that there will still be a some form of advisory committee.

  • beware - 2010-01-28 10:45

    .....transformation will destroy the game.... ....quota players will destroy the game... ...polititians will destroy the game...

  • Winston - 2010-01-28 11:00

    This is the first step to the Proteas becoming the Central and Southern African cricket champions, where we will compete with Kenya and Zimbabwe in Tri Nation cricket tournaments and win some of them; but we better stay off the world stage if we thing Majola and his cronies can run, coach and manage the team

  • Sipho - 2010-01-28 11:32

    I think that it would be the right and correct thing to have Comrade Majola and Comrade Dr Nyoka to do the selecting. Then we, the disadvantaged can get right representation. It is calamatious how many advantaged people are in the team. Winning is not everything.

  • Ivan - 2010-01-28 11:37

    @ Hennie. And you are Afrikaans i would guess. Johan Botha is a nonentity (look it up).

  • JustinD - 2010-01-28 11:38

    Barnes is still there because he is a quota selection, albeit crap at his job, he will not get replaced until Makaya get's the nod in 5 years time. Mind you, Telemacus could also be considered, you know, just to keep the numbers up.

  • JOE - 2010-01-28 12:08

    YA K YAK YAK And the soccer staduims would not have been finished and the money would have dried out and the tickets would not have been sold and a lot of white AFRIKANER D.......E IS MAKING a lot of negative noise ? just moveout of Africa we do not need you here .

  • nige - 2010-01-28 13:46

    people, your negativity is killing me! Obviously something was NOT right in the setup, and to be bold and brave enough to make a decision is a sign of good leadership. I am happy that CSA did make a decision instead of allowing things to just deteriorate. Hopefully the new people at the helm will have the balls to instruct AB to take the gloves when needed, be more creative in the approach to our game, and challenge conventional thinking that has paralysed the Proteas. Come on people, change is good, give it a chance before judging, and don't let the colour/transformation issue affect your ability to think rationally. We are going to do well in India!

  • Neil - 2010-01-28 13:54

    Sipho.... winning is every thing for a South African supporter of cricket and rugby...hence the reason why we're the best at both sports. And hence the reason why banana banana is kak. Take away our sport and then theres nothing left to be proud about. And Joe.....im busy packing my bags....only cos you said so hahha

  • El Tamano - 2010-01-28 14:05

    @Sipho - Your idea that winning isn't everything is crazy. Let's accept that winning isn't everything and concede that mediocrity is OK. We then achieve said mediocrity, slip down the rankings and become like Bangladesh & Zimbabwe. Now we have a very average team who no-one wants to support. Like Bafana Bafana. How does that help the disadvantaged? They end up feeling inadequate, rotten and miserable.

  • viva! - 2010-01-28 15:55

    ......getting rid of Mickey Arthur was just another "transformation" execise... ...viva transformation,viva...!!

  • @El Tamo - 2010-01-28 15:55

    Yes, but you should have said Zimbabwe and Kenia, as those are the other 2 African countries South Africa much aspires to in all other aspects of live, so why not cricket as well? It's obvious CSA wants cricket to fit in with the rest of the African cricket playing nations, so that it can also truly be an African cricket nation.

  • hehe - 2010-01-28 16:18

    SIPHO, ......you surely must be a communist...!! ....only communists embrace mediocrity..... ......he he he....!!

  • mfc - 2010-01-28 17:32

    All of u guys are beating around the BUSH! CSA needs a COMPLETE AND TOTAL OVERHAULING....starting from the TOP>>>DOWN to the "LUGGAGE MAN"...This "PICKIN n CHOOSIN" black players in the of' "TRANSFORMATION" is BULL....T! THERE IS NO "DEVELOPEMENT OF CRICKET PLAYERS" from SCHOOL LEVEL , THRU TO THE TOWNSHIP/SUBURBS/PROVINCES than the NATIONAL SIDE! UNTIL THIS HAPPENS ...from PRIMARY SCHOOL UPWARDS ACROSS THE WHOLE COUNTRY....WE CAN NEVER EVER CLAIM TO HAVE A GENUINE NATIONAL CRICKET SIDE PICKED ON MERIT -- be it WHITE;BLACK;COLORED;CHINESE;MALAY;OR HOTNOT..whatever creed or color. ALL CSA IS BUSY WITH NOW IS "DRESSING THE WINDOW"..THE SAME WITH SAFA and EVERY OTHER SPORT!

  • JK - 2010-01-28 21:18

    So we win ONE match in 2009 but no one sees the problem there. No one wants to change the team because of bad performance, but everyone is ready to jump to conclusion that race was the reason for axing. Great thinking.

  • Mike G - 2010-01-29 04:52

    I agree with Joe, Move out of Africa! Then, In 10 years time they'll still be blaming us for all the failures!

  • Adrian - 2010-01-30 06:17

    Reading comment just shows the divide between our different races. I implore whites to watch the movie "SKIN"

  • Adrian J - 2010-01-30 06:24

    There is always racial divide when reading comments. Whites must watch the film "SKIN"

  • JOHAN - 2010-01-31 07:18

    @ JOE YAK YAK YAK JY PRAAT KAK You bloody idiot without White Afrikaners South Africa will look like the rest of Africa, Look at Our Neighbours Zimbabwe bankrupt In Africa The National sport is Killing the Golden Goose that lay the Golden Egg and people like yourself who have this intense hate of the Afrikaner are the type of person who is the cause of the continued racism in this beatifull country. I thank the ancestors that arseholes like you are the minority in our country.

  • @JOHAN - 2010-02-01 14:38

    Johan se my was jy gemaak of het jy gebeur,jy is so negatief as jy in jou kar klim is die battery seker onmiddelik pap...en ja weet jou ma jy is op die net?

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