Champions Trophy

SA flops take media hammering

2009-09-28 12:44
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Proteas coach Mickey Arthur (File)

Johannesburg - Hosts South Africa received a media hammering Monday after a shock early exit from the ICC Champions Trophy tournament.

GALLERY: Proteas v England

The Proteas fell by 22 runs on Sunday to surprise packets England, their second loss in three Group B matches at the second most important national team one-day tournament after the World Cup.

A bowling outfit led by speedster Dale Steyn that conceded 856 runs in three outings bore the brunt of the criticism as a team ranked number one in the world once again flopped in a major competition.

"The home team lost this match with the ball through one of the poorer bowling displays produced by them in recent years," said the Johannesburg Star under the headline "England break SA hearts".

"It was good wicket for batting certainly, and winning the toss was important, but the kind of dross served up by the bowlers would have made it easy for the local B team, never mind international batsmen."

The Star did not spare the batsmen either apart from captain courageous Graeme Smith, whose career-best 141 kept the Proteas in with a chance until his departure triggered a closing-overs collapse.

"Where England made judicious use of the short boundary on the eastern side of the ground, only once did a South African player manage to clear the rope in that area of the field."

Business Day said top teams are there to be shot at and very few underdogs can resist the temptation to come out swinging in the hope of landing a knockout punch early on.

"That South Africa bowled poorly is not in dispute. What they need to address is why. Were they due a bad day anyway or was there a problem with preparation?

"If they stumbled and lost their collective rhythm because they were distracted by the fearless England approach, there may be a problem because every team will play like that now.

The Citizen said it has once again become abundantly clear the South Africa and showpiece tournaments do not mix despite a magnificent innings from Smith at SuperSport Park 40 kilometres north of Johannesburg.

"As with the 2003 World Cup, the South African public will have to stomach the fact that they have to support the tournament without their favourite team now.

"While the Proteas will continue wearing tags labelled "chokers" around their necks, it must be said that this was not a mere choke on a bite of apple.

"Instead, England strangled them like a hit man equipped with a wire after producing a splendid batting effort when Andrew Strauss won an admittedly vital toss."

England made 323-8 and South Africa 301/9 in their alloted 50 overs and the winners became the first qualifiers for the semi-finals of a tournament offering a $2m first prize.

 

Your Comments

Barbara10/1/2009 10:14 AM
South African supporters have got to be the worst in the whole world. I can't believe all the rubbish I have just read. I agree with David Burger. If we beat England at the end of the year all these people will be saying what a wonderful team we have.
Uncle10/1/2009 10:10 AM
Loadmouths dale Steyn and Abie tell media how good the team is. He is a lesson from Robbie Deans working with a Awallaby squad very similar to the Proteas, mentally: ''Personally, I think confidence is overrated. I think a toughness and a resilience is more important,'' he said. ''It is not about how you feel, it is about what you do.''. Take note please
shaun9/30/2009 4:41 PM
Our cricket team still has an excellent win/loss ratio on both tests and ODI's. Let's hope sanity prevails and the powers that me don't make wholesale changes, such as firing captains and coaches. Then we would end up with another Banana Banana, who are only taking part in 2010 because they are hosts. They would not have qualified otherwise.
michael9/29/2009 2:37 PM
All south africans are bad losers
cammie9/29/2009 9:22 AM
@ has been fan - football players are not on the field for 6/7 hours in a game, therein lies the difference. Smith had been in the field for 95% of the game, and the weather in Pretoria on Sunday was hot! Have yet to see a cricket player behave in the unruly manner some of the footballers do when they pretend to have been fouled by the opposition!!!!!
Tyron9/29/2009 8:16 AM
For all you people who say it is just a game and they played better than us please do not try force your acceptance of mediocrity on us. Dont forget that they are a sports team representing their country. That country also happens to be my country - if you are not proud of your country then I feel very sorry for you. When Bafana, the Springboks or the Proteas step on to the field they represent all South Africans and that is why a poor performance can not be forgotten. Remember these are professionals - they get paid very well to PERFORM. What would happen if the teller in a bank has an "off" day and miss places a few million? They wanted to be professionals and every little boy wants to be in their shoes - if you cant stand the heat get out the kitchen. The bowling was pathetic from a PROFESSIONAL team. They never used any variation, were too short/wide, forgot slower balls exist and did not think intelligently (I blame Smith for this). The fielding was weak. Yes there were dives but that is the norm for international cricket. We missed countless opportunites at run outs and the ground fielding against Sri Lanka was terrible. And then the batting. Duminy needs to take a good look in the mirror followed by Morkel - I am almost bordering on one hit wonders here but I will give them a chance. The batting in the middle overs always leaves us with a mountain to climb at the death - you bat so slow and force so many singles that if the opposition do not bowl poorly we will not win. No team can score 100 in the last ten unless the opposition bowl poorly - why wait for the opposition to loose it - let us go out and win it. Poor fielding, poor bowling, poor batting and very poor tactics. I can not just roll over and accept it - pay them less and lets only play Kenya and Zim then we will look like champions. (before anyone replies "Ah but we beat Aus" - when was than and how many injuries did they have and how does their team look now and most important are you willing to bet the farm that this SA team will beat them now?)
Mandoza9/29/2009 7:41 AM
i think that its time that Steyn and Morkel are dropped.these guys are clearly the weakest links on the team.yes lets drop these two oaks and bring in Ntini and Tsotsobe.
AJ9/29/2009 7:21 AM
What is this infatuation SA has with chasing all the time rather than set a target - it shows a lack of confidence in oneself. Secondly take the batting powerplay earlier in the slow overs as opposed to leaving to the end. Against England, Smith & AB would have made better use of the PP then or with JP than at the end. Teams score 8 an over at the end in any case. Poor tactics at the toss, poor tactics during the run chase sealed our fate.
has been fan9/28/2009 11:52 PM
Can you imagine Ronaldo or Messi asking for a runner due to cramp?? hahahahahaha!!
Lesley9/28/2009 10:36 PM
SA cricket outter rubbish and I will no longer support them rather support a team like England and Australia/Sri Lanka/Bangladesh.
FG9/28/2009 10:25 PM
Yes sure, we're cheesed off, but going overboard as a multitude of the comments below demonstrate only highlights our intollerance and ultimately lack of sportsmanship. For crying out loud! It's just a game and surely we are not playing against rif-raf who will bow to our # 1 position. Everything in cricket is relative: there are so mamy factors influencing a team;s performance, whether it be lack of match exposure or temperament issues on the day. They could not become the #1 team if they were the bunch of idiots as many are proclaiming them to be. People, this is just a GAME! Do not insult the standing of the teams who happen to beat us - that is the essence of instant cricket: any team can beat any oponent on any given occasion. If your team takes flak more than you wish them to, opportunity will come around again tomorrow. One would be seriously naive to believe that one's team will/must win evry time. Do not fall for the 'choker' lable: that is nonsence imposed by opposition suporters to the detriment of all of us, as well as to our team. Nee magtag man, staan 'n slag by jul mense en kom oor julle self! As julle dink die span is 'chokers', is julle self 'n klomp moangatte wat nie die game verstaan nie...
Magamore9/28/2009 9:31 PM
I can't believe that the Proteas tried to play the games as if it is a 5 day game instead of 50 over game. With a big score to chase only one boundry in 44 minutes? How is it possible that the batting power play pruduces 50+ runs for other teams but the Proteas lost 4 wickets! My view is that their is something terribly wrong with their mindset and ability to play the "mind" game no strategy at all, just leave it to the last overs to try and win. The boulers were useless! Winnig the toss means you have a "psygological edge" .Smith gave away the initiative to other teams when selecting to bowl. it is common knowledge to set the pace is easier than to chase, that is initiative! Even 0/10 teams know that.
Bloomski9/28/2009 8:45 PM
Proteas or Pansies? Smith must go as Captain. His inflexible manner is not suited for limited cricket and married men score more often than he wins a toss. Mickey ain't no mighty mouse, JP's a flash in the pan, what is Morkels' role in team and lessons from Boks in BMT required. The whole bunch should be fined their entire competition fee and a public appology to the fans would be in order.
hendrik9/28/2009 5:50 PM
We are still in the tournament! Our A team (masquerading as England) is looking pretty good at the moment. Get Trot & KP in there too and nobody can match us. Our B team is out unfortunately, boys coming to a men's game.
Clive9/28/2009 5:18 PM
The source of our ousting goes back to the lack of preparation, which was the main cause of the really awful bowling. Were we really so arrogant as to believe all the hype that we were "unbeatable", and was it for this reason we organised only one meaningful warm-up game after months of inaction? Most of the other teams played tournaments and series over the last month. Management must take the blame for this. I am no great Graeme Smith fan, but I think Debbie is wrong to blame the captain: he, alone, among the batsmen showed some guts and aggression. The Poms hit 12 sixes, our guys just two. Our batting was too timid, and I have believed for some time that Albie Morkel is coming in too late, leaving him too much to do in too little time. I do believe, however, that Smith got it totally wrong when he chose to bowl first against Sri Lanka in the first match. It seems strange to want to bat against Malinga and Co under lights. Anyway, the sun will no doubt rise again tomorrow!
A Choker fan9/28/2009 5:03 PM
David there is always a excuse why we choked this time. CHOKERS CHOKERS CHOKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
StOrM9/28/2009 5:01 PM
So glad you Arrogant BIG mouthed South African's got dumped out AGAIN !!!! England all the way to Win It !!!! all without our best 2 players KP and King Freddy !!! Enjoy !!!
KC9/28/2009 4:31 PM
Protea's are despicable in tournaments. Maybe they should have the World Cup played over a period of time, like a country vs country series. We can only beat teams when there's no pressure! It's sad being a South African, No. 1 with no trophies!!!!!!!!!!!!! As from today I give up watching tournaments like these! I'll still back our boys, but only in 1 on 1 series or a triangular series. I think JP should stop writing those stupid senseless columns and concentrate on his batting!!!!!!!!!
Fred9/28/2009 4:31 PM
I believe they also made a mistake by persisting with JP Duminy. He must either bat at number three or not at all. He struggles to bat at a fast pace. Instead I would consider Robin Peterson or even Justin Ontong as they also provide more bowling options. Kallis' injury (or whatever) took a mainline bowler out of the attack on Sunday which had a definite impact.
@everyone else9/28/2009 4:23 PM
Yes we lost yes we are upset, the players are even more upset, now is the time to put this behind up and stop harping on the "chokers" train, THEY MADE A MISTAKE. We have the talent the ability and we were prepared that leaves only one thing out, "mentality", we dont have BMT. We need a sports psycologist to get the players heads staight so they stop making silly desions.
HONESTY9/28/2009 4:22 PM
Tha FACT here is PARNELL is EXPENSIVE!!!! He's an opening bowler that gives batsman momentum! Back up bowlers suffer because the train is already at full speed.!! he picks up wickets , yes, but after being molled and after creating confedence on the opposition batsman to take on other bowlers. The boy is GOOD!! he must still go back to provincial cric. and refine his game. I think we've rushed him!!!! BRING BACK LOPSI (Lonwabo Tsotsobe) he's taller get more bounce and he's way more economical.I said this from the very start BUT his nooo black soooo....... You all saw how he handled the pressure when the Aussies tried to get after him....e.g. Hussey and Ponting down-under!!!
Debbie9/28/2009 4:21 PM
The Proteas are chokers! i love cricket but i am very frustrated over the fact that the Proteas are out of the tournament. What happened to comments like "No team can beat us". I think Smith needs to step down he did play a good game however i felt that he played for his own selfish gain, he should have acelerated the run rate but he stayed there to make his 100. The cricket board needs to look into handing over the captaincy to probably Johan Botha, he did a good job in Smiths absence.
Debbie9/28/2009 4:20 PM
The Proteas are chokers! i love cricket but i am very frustrated over the fact that the Proteas are out of the tournament. What happened to comments like "No team can beat us". I think Smith needs to step down he did play a good game however i felt that he played for his own selfish gain, he should have acelerated the run rate but he stayed there to make his 100. The cricket board needs to look into handing over the captaincy to probably Johan Botha, he did a good job in Smiths absence.
Koos9/28/2009 4:19 PM
Make Pieter Div the cricket coach...........you go Twakkie!!!!!
dc 4thelove of the game9/28/2009 4:14 PM
we choke on "any given sunday" , its now a FACT. I Think we have too much Ego as a team and a macho attitude. When i percieve in my mind as a supporter that SA is number 1 here and there, their tails are then between their legs, with teams that look smaller , like Pakistan wacking them in the T20 , and now Sri Lanka and England, somethings not on...its either Mickey Arthur or that consistent line up...that feels like apartheid or a quota system, either way one has to GO!
Vuyisa 9/28/2009 4:14 PM
the haven't done something unexpected , let's just face the reality they not so good as perceived by those who want to be so patriotic. all they can beat when they r playing in da world cup would be Kenya and Zimbabwe.why stunned by this. just paid them more and they will loose more and retire to be great businessman.surely they not different to the football jokers of south africa(bafana bafana), it just they don't have a lot of African players.
kyle9/28/2009 4:09 PM
How about some YORKERS, slower balls or some cutters? any type of variation! We have the most predictable bowling attack in the world, the same line , length and pace EVERY SINGLE BALL. How about thinking on your feet and suprising the batsmen, the come down the wicket and hit our "quick" bowlers for six cos they know exactly where the ball will land. Wake up, captain obvious, i wonder who taught them to bowl like this that even though you are getting smacked all around the park, you still bowl the next ball exactly the same??? It makes no sense? Throw in a yorker or something!!!!!
Duns9/28/2009 4:08 PM
I am not a big fan of Smith Captancy. How does he explain winning a toss and choosing to bowl in day/night game?The less said about Morkel bowling the better.He lacks control.But i still support you, one more time until T20 in caribean next year.Go PROTEAS!
Player 139/28/2009 3:58 PM
Solution easy, The Sports minister needs to launch a national inquiry and look at the following 1. Cricket and Football need to do a gap analysis with Rugby as the benchmark.Take it from schools to top management. 2. There is no pride in Cricket and Football playing for your country. 3. Very few new and young players coming through. 4, Greame Smith is good but we need a new captain he needs to do the honourable thing. 5. We need a new coach and Jonty. For the love of the game
ian9/28/2009 3:48 PM
swop vince barnes for allan donald.ad good enough to be englands bowling coach but only good enough to do tv commentting in sa. what a waste
Roberto9/28/2009 3:48 PM
Chokers. watching the cricket side and bafana play is like watching soft porn!! the old men boucher and kallis must surelygo now!!
shaun gray9/28/2009 3:44 PM
come on people...yes,i'm just as frustrated as everyone else.i even put on my facebook and twitter profiles the "chokers" comment,which i truly believe we are. but now we are quick to forget the success we've had the last 2 years.now all of a sudden the knives are out for the players again.no no no.wait untill after the series against england.we lost last night,lets move on. anyway,i must agree with commetns that boucher has reached his sell-by date.i dont think he has much left to contribute to the team.i see him as a tail-ender rather than the feisty bats-man he was.he has done alot for us,but time to look at someone else...duminy,hhmmm,he also needs to impress again.very soon indeed
Ben9/28/2009 3:42 PM
I'd hate to be playing cricket for "fans" like you people...
Stella9/28/2009 3:37 PM
I think the whole problem here was that our team lacked preperation. Most of these other teams were playing cricket non stop for the last 2 months while our boys had time off. Not a good way to prepare for a big tournament. You could see they are rusty. After a couple of games they will be top notch again and will wipe the floor with who ever they play against, and we will cheer again and be happy. Unfortunately, its too late for the ICC tourny.
Roy9/28/2009 3:27 PM
What a bunch of chokers these well-paid cricketers are.To many excuses and very little to brag about. Did they also go on strike for better salaries?
Teddy "Majakathata" Ndlazi9/28/2009 3:26 PM
The Proteas played poorly in the tournament and it came as no surprise that the side failed to secure a semifinal berth. The stage was set for the likes of Gibbs, Kallis and Boucher to put to rest the ghosts of the past. Alas, they failed to come to the party even when they had an easy draw. Chokers For Life. You bet.
Leon9/28/2009 3:23 PM
Don't worry guys. It hurts but it goes away! 20/20 and ODI's is only entertainment. Tests we are no 1, thats what we must retain! Forever Proteas!!!
GeePMB9/28/2009 3:17 PM
Can Caster Semenya bat or bowl??
swong9/28/2009 3:14 PM
At least we were beaten by another South African side.
paul9/28/2009 3:10 PM
How long will the failure continue. We are only no1 by default. One great Australian summer doesn't make up for years of choking. Bring in a new breed of cricketers under the leadership of Duminy or some other youngster. Build now for the future. Smith Kallis Boucher Morkel Gibbs and Kie is the the way backwards. Only thinh going forward is their beer boeps. Screw them all they are passed their sell by date.
mcb9/28/2009 3:07 PM
The difference between the two sides was that England hit more sixes. The Proteas can't expect to win by picking off ones after Over No 35, when the required rate was already over 9. Their problem is thus purely a mathematical one. Somebody should teach their batsmen that the alternative to running 6 single runs, for which you need at least 6 balls (that is an entire over), is to hit the ball over the rope in one shot. That counts for 6, invariably bringing the run rate down according to those laws of mathematics that other teams hold dear. The further advantage of hitting a 6 is that you don't have to run, thereby minimising the chances of getting cramps later on in your innings, that is if you are lucky enough not to get caught on the boundary fence by merely playing one of those usual strokes for which you had been quite prepared to stroll over for a single.
AntiTeas9/28/2009 3:03 PM
That wasn't nice of Strauss not giving Smith a runner. Don't think he's going to be safe in SA come November. Better stay at home Andrew!
Andre9/28/2009 2:53 PM
Time for the useless coach to go and at least 75% of the team who have not an ounce of BMT between them for heavens sake. Boucher must retire, Gibbs must retire to the beach so he can smoke boom permanently, Kallis has lost the plot so fire him ETC ETC. Bring in the young guns with balls and rebuild the team. I've had it with this bunch of losers.
Tubby9/28/2009 2:50 PM
A lot of comment about a game, ODI's are like one arm bandits, if the numbers work, well done, if not try again.Prefer Test matches as each ball bouled is a match in itself.
Alan9/28/2009 2:50 PM
Waahaaa @ Ama Choke Choke. Bunch of useless clowns with the biggest mouths in the world. Smith and Arthur must go - bring back Jennings Hope Steyn is enjoying his humble pie!!!!!!!!!! .
Johan9/28/2009 2:49 PM
I must say, I was stunned by the performance of Smith last night. For a long time now I had my doubts that he's capable of posting any score above 50 runs.... usually wham/ bam and then back in the dressing room, even my friend said he's clever 'cause then he doesn't have to stand in the sun and sweat. But after last night... Smith, I salute you.....! I just think our bowlers were a bit rusty and some batsmen too eager to play strokes and not consentrating..... never the less, GREAT JOB guys ! We still love you !
dennie9/28/2009 2:49 PM
In the future Dale Steyn and A B de Villiers should rather perform on the field with the ball and bat than with their big mouths in the newspapers.
Camel Man9/28/2009 2:49 PM
@Colin. Agree 100%. No win-no money.
Riaan9/28/2009 2:43 PM
First. Stop the racist remarks. Look at each player and then you will see all of them under performed. Smith has shown now for several years that he is not a good captain. Some of the older players like Kallis, Boucher need to be replaced by younger better players. I think some of these players lost to much weight to fit in that new shirts that they need enhancers to perform
dustin9/28/2009 2:39 PM
didn't prepare properly, not enough cricket played, pretty obvious i thought - oh well :)
Neville9/28/2009 2:35 PM
There is no more excuses in the book , our coach and some of our players is on a honeymoon and i think this honeymoon must come to and end , how can chokers be no.1 in the world , they must perform when it matters, it is a shame that players is getting so much money for nothing to show. VIVA SPRINGBOKS you are worthy champions
Ash9/28/2009 2:35 PM
Maybe one day the loyal South African cricket fans will be awarded with jubilation and the opportunity of victory in a major cricket tournament! Here in Australia, the Protea's were just likened to the All Blacks rugby team, always ranked with the best and hosting major tournaments, yet to win one in their own country! Someone, please give the Protea's the Heimlich maneuver!
Mike9/28/2009 2:34 PM
We lost, we'll win another day. Get over it!
Mikedascot9/28/2009 2:33 PM
If the bureaucrats had not punished the Wanderers there would have been 30000+ noisy supporters instead of the inaudible 15000. If Strauss had acted in a sportsmanship manner, Morkel may have had the opportunity to actually bat. The moaning a****ole supporters who don't seem aware that the Proteas are/were the No 1 team in the world but have not played competetively in over three months sound like the moaning POMs normally sound and surely will again by the end of their tour. Well done captain fantastic, your effort was inspiring.
John9/28/2009 2:31 PM
The poor batting of the others was exarcebated by Boucher,Botha & Roelof virtually throwing away their wixkets.Just one of these guys could have potentially won the game if they just plugged up the one end for CC.
Thandile9/28/2009 2:30 PM
Blame it on Apartheid
John9/28/2009 2:30 PM
The poor batting of the others was exarcebated by Boucher,Botha & Roelof virtually throwing away their wixkets.Just one of these guys could have potentially won the game if they just plugged up the one end for CC.
ASIF9/28/2009 2:28 PM
Yet another flop at a major event..how many more must we the supporters endure? Drop Boucher..he's had his days!! make AB keeper. As for Duminy -OVER RATED.he needs to be dropped and earn his place in the team again!!
dd9/28/2009 2:28 PM
chockers..just admit. fire the coach...they where not supposed to lose to SR of all teams
Les9/28/2009 2:27 PM
Oh come on now!! The proteas have lost... whopeee... teams do that all the time!!! If we lost in the semis.... we are CHOCKERS...... if we lost in the FINAL then we are CHOKERS.......... we didnt even make the semis.... so we are CHOKERS??? So basically only winning the tournament would make us NOT CHOKERS?? That is disrespectful to the other 7 teams playing and with the quality on show there is no way that this tournament was ever going to be an easy win for the Proteas. We have a quality squad that on most days will beat England, no doubt in my mind. England played really well though, and we didnt beat them. Thats life. Chins up Proteas, here is at least one fan that is realistic and supportive through think and thin (and in fact this has been a superb season!!!). Pity SA reporters and public dont believe that you should be allowed to lose from time to time......
Too Soft9/28/2009 2:27 PM
The SA Media must adopt the English Media's approach. If their team fails they don't have headlines like the Star "England break SA's hearts" - they'd say 'You cocked it up you bunch of f****....AGAIN!!!" Please CSA, how long do you still put up with Arthur and his pathetic bowling coach, surely by now someone must've seen they talk up a storm and produce nothing. And before someone say, well SA became no1 under them, let me just say, we became no1 by default, it had F-all to do with how we performed on the field. We caught a cripple Ozzie team. Put Kepler in charge and Clive Rice as selector. Bring back the discipline into the team and send the players who stay there season in and season out, merely on reputation, packing. Could've, would've, should've is just not good enough at this level. And while you about it, give each team member an abacus - and teach them simple maths 101. No over reaction, professionals know how to and when to prepare. Wankers!!
Joe9/28/2009 2:26 PM
OK, so i'm waiting for the race card. Could someone please play it already? I know it's not relevant, but SOMEONE has to play it, FFS!
Mfanafuthi9/28/2009 2:26 PM
@WTF-Clearly you're the one that don't know cricket.You say "People who rant and rave about tournaments and silverware don't know anything about cricket" In other words to you even if we beat understrength Ozz,NZ,Eng and India and remain #1 you'll be fine,come WC we bomb out first round. At the world cup in West Indies we were also favourites,what happened? CHOKE..CHOKE...PUKE...PUKE...i'd rather have an English team that loses a home series 6:1 and wins away a tournament like this.This is the mini world cup,true test of character in ODI.I'd rather have bafana bafana, they lose to everyone but come Confed Cup and World cup they play out of their skin,then win all friendly games and lose all WC games, and they are correctly ranked down there unlike the CHOKEAS.
Will9/28/2009 2:25 PM
I was at the game at Centurion last night and must say that our players in comparison with England looked tired and most of them (Kallis, and kie) overweight and not as sharp and desperate to win as their competition, England. England's players looked hungry, sharp in the field and everytime a ball was hit to a fielder, went aggressively for the ball and saved a lot of bounderies on the night. Our fielders just gave up when a ball was hit to the boundary. Must believe that our players looked unfit and not "lus" to play. Maybe we need old Jonty's hand again. Sorry, but this was absolute rubbish and our cricket looked very ordinary and 2nd grade on the night. I said a few times during the game to my choms that this team looks like a Provincial outfit and not our National team..... Sigh, what a dissapointment!!!
Franklin9/28/2009 2:25 PM
Our players simply lack the KILLER INSTINCT that is the stuff of champions. You don't win contests of this nature on sheer ability. And Gibbs is far better at no 4 in the order. And drop Morkel.
Chokalingum9/28/2009 2:23 PM
If SA can score 438 in 50 overs, why are we sitting here and discussing cramp ? I feel a strange sensation in my chest, I think I am about to choke.
Craig9/28/2009 2:23 PM
I wish the media and all the other nay-sayers would grow a pair and stop acting like such freaking babies! Its a game, it happens! We need to stop praising them when they're up and kicking them when they down. Thats not being a true supporter. So media & all you other negative A-holes...GROW UP OR STOP WATCHING CRICKET! its a big boys game.
Michael9/28/2009 2:23 PM
Why is no-one talking about Cricket SA? How much did their petulance in moving SA's games to Centurion have to do with the team's problems?
Chuckie9/28/2009 2:23 PM
WCC - World Champion Chokers! and England destroyd us WITHOUT KP and Andrew Flintoff ! Wake up and smell the coffee
Philip9/28/2009 2:22 PM
Our cricket is like the All Black rugby team, all year the best until something like the World Cup, then we CHOKE, and choke and choke, come on guys what the hell is going on? every time the same story
Michael9/28/2009 2:22 PM
Why is no-one talking about Cricket SA? How much did their petulance in moving SA's games to Centurion have to do with the team's problems?
Andre9/28/2009 2:20 PM
As with my SHARKS team before the Super 14, the Proteas won the ICC trophy before the first ball was bowled. Stop talking before competitions and let your achievements do the talking.... I'm sick of the National cricket team not performing. At least they shrugged the "choker" stigma as we didn't have time to choke we were killed instantly!!!!!!
Michael Seres9/28/2009 2:19 PM
The difference Wernher Albertse is that Bafana Bafana is not the number one ranked team in football. Sure, we expect alot from them next year but if they fail to impress, it wil be nudged off because they are simply a team that is making up the numbers in a major tournament, much like when say Canada or the Netherlands plays in major cricket tournaments. And don't get me wrong, I am backing Bafana Bafana wholeheartedly but I won't lose any sleep if they don't make it past group stages. We are the number one cricket team in the WORLD, let's start acting and playing like it.
Sian9/28/2009 2:15 PM
oh for god sakes its life you can't win all the time. Graeme Smith was awesome last night our bowlers let us down. we haven't played enough which is not Cricket South Africa's fault neccessarily its up to the ICC who plays when. but anyways it isn't the end of the world. as for who will win now either Pakistan or Australia it would be awesome if New Zealand won though. England may have a chance but i don't think they have it in them. oh and may I just pay a warning to Strauss Graeme Smith is going to remember that you didn't allow him a runner. but well since Strauss never actually ever has an innings like Smith did last night Smith won't ever have the opportunity to give him a taste of his own medicine.
Schumi9/28/2009 2:15 PM
@ Jono. Man, I wish you were right, but if I heard correctly yesterday we had to get 314, Sri Lanka is currently in front when net run rate is concerned.... I agree with the most of you: we didn't choke, just played BADLY. Maybe next time hey.
GATVOL9/28/2009 2:15 PM
South African Cricket = All Blacks Rugby = CHOKERS!!!!!!! We dont deserve to be the No1 team in the world, cause when it counts we fail BIG TIME!!!!
Sandra9/28/2009 2:14 PM
Before the tournament started, Dale Steyn was quoted on News 24, singing the praises of a more or less unbeatable Proteas side.When I read that I knew we were headed for heartbreak. Self-confidence is a good thing, but could we please have more of the quiet variety. (and could team members please be kept away from the press before the England series)
Rob9/28/2009 2:14 PM
Lets be honest we are not good enough for one reason PRIDE.
FYI9/28/2009 2:14 PM
This is what needs to happen. There are 2 USELESS guys in that SA squad. firstly, Mark Boucher, and then 2ndly, JP Duminy. drop boucher and let AB be wicket-keeper batsman, that way they'll be room for another batsman / bowler in that team. can anyone tell me what good boucher serves in the team? AB is just as good as him in wicket-keeping anyway
Kim Barlow9/28/2009 2:13 PM
Its heartbreaking being a Proteas supporter. They always get themselves into "so close yet so far" situations which could be avoided. It was a nail biting match and one that we shouldve won. No use crying over spilt milk i guess.
Mr. Rainbow9/28/2009 2:13 PM
How fickle the SA public are.....Yes the chaps played badly bar Graham (Well done mate, you played like a true captain) They return from Australia to a hero's welcome and now seen as the villians. No one will be more disappointed that Mickey and Graham, trust me they will have wanted to win at all costs. Some of the guys like Kallis,Boucher,Mokel will have to say what did we bring to the table in the tournment....the answer is NOTHING ! Give the guys a break and let the selectors yield the axe to those that are not performing.
Frans9/28/2009 2:13 PM
It is a sad day for S.A. sport if one looks at some of the comments made. It is almost like an attack on individuals, we as Protea supporters are worse than the English press. We are all dissapointed, but ODI cricket is a gamble and especially this tournament where every game is basically a sudden death. One brilliant individual performance can turn a game on its head.( Dilshan, Shah, Morgan, Malik,). The boys will make us proud again during the English tour later this year.
Sandra9/28/2009 2:13 PM
Before the tournament started, Dale Steyn was quoted on News 24, singing the praises of a more or less unbeatable Proteas side.When I read that I knew we were headed for heartbreak. Self-confidence is a good thing, but could we please have more of the quiet variety. (and could team members please be kept away from the press before the England series)
"Q"9/28/2009 2:12 PM
Santana, Mickey, and Aaron Mokoena must all go...
Burtfred9/28/2009 2:12 PM
Ho-Hum, Useless bunch of blommetjies. At least we're good at rugby!
Shaq9/28/2009 2:11 PM
Well done England. WTF is roelof still doing in the team....he needs to go NOW!! the same with boucher( he even looks extinct!!) Duminy needs to up his game or else ship him out too...SA cricket needs a reshuffle in the 50 over format. Its the same old thing every game....so predictable. What a disgrace!!
michael woods9/28/2009 2:11 PM
i think its time for the CSA to examine some squad selections...Albie Morkel is supposed to be our allrounder, fair enough he is capable of producing runs very quickly but there is no point in going out there to make a quick fire 40-50 runs if you gonna get hit for 60+ runs in your bowling. I also think JP Duminy's role needs to be reevaluated, since his sensational knock in Australia he has not done anything significant since then...i think its time SA did some soul searching and really assess if they have the side they need to solidify the No1 in the world status
faithless9/28/2009 2:10 PM
Always making excuses for a useless captain and an average batsman at best...Rusty my behind....professional sportsman should be in top form all the time. If your captain is a fat unfit cramper then what do you expect he rest of the team to aspire to. Poor performance and no excuse. But seeing as this is SA...reward Smith and say what a sterling job he is doing and how much you support him. Pathetic
REG9/28/2009 2:10 PM
i think there is something wrong about our SA sport cause is not our cricket team only which is dissapointing the counry Bafana bafama aswell. look @ what happen last nite with our under 23 team playing world cup in Egypt they were leadingg 2-0 until @ 90 minutes they equalized. it may that we always think we can play better than other teams we win the game in the dressing rooms not in the field. something have to b done to SA SPORTS.
Tsepo9/28/2009 2:10 PM
Mickey mouse must go. Botha for captain...
@Diane9/28/2009 2:06 PM
Its Cricket SA who are to blame for that, no competitive matches, or do they not play on purpose? Look at Bafana Bafana, they played competitive matches and lost 6 on the trot, I swear SAFA, Cricket SA, Athletics SA are a bunch of retards. Embarrassing. No wonder the Springboks excel, they are run properly and have pride when they wear the Green and Gold
Arno9/28/2009 2:03 PM
I was one of the ones who said they are not chokers and have been judged too harshly for (some unlucky) exits out of major tournaments, but I have to say this: in big games, good teams will find a way to win. Even if only one or two individuals put up there hands. Anderson, Shah, Collingwood and Morgan did it for Eng. Why wasn't there one or 2 outstanding bowling performances on our side. Yesterday, Smith only needed one or 2 partners, because batting cannot be done alone, but nobody put up his hand! Not AB, not Kallis, nobody! With the exception of Smith, not one bowler or batsman can say they tried their best! There is also no imagination or flexibility there. Boucher and Morkel should have come in before Duminy, who shouldn't be in the ODI team.
Kim Barlow9/28/2009 2:03 PM
Its heartbreaking being a Proteas supporter. They always get themselves into "so close yet so far" situations which could be avoided. It was a nail biting match and one that we shouldve won. No use crying over spilt milk i guess.
Wernher Albertse9/28/2009 2:02 PM
Huh,poor Proteas they lost a game and they are out of the tournament,wich happens time to time in any sport.I hope the media are going to have their mouths full like this next year with the soccer worldcup if Bafana Bafana looses,or are there gona be excuses for them?
dianne9/28/2009 2:01 PM
In the past I used to be disappointed when we lost, but after last night, I'm angry. Scuse my ignorance, but why do we appear to be the only team who hasn't been playing virtually the whole year and were anything but match ready. Smith might've been fit and raring to go, but I think the bowlers spent 3 months on the beach!
Ryan9/28/2009 1:59 PM
Very disappointing, but not that surprising given the 3 month layoff. When will cricket SA learn to do some proper planning ? Our batting depth is not as strong as many believe. The lower order can do well when we are on top but seldom perform when we are under real pressure. AB de Villiers must live up to his hype. A great talent but must perform in big limited over matches. Smith was brilliant last night.
Gert9/28/2009 1:57 PM
This is not new to the south African public! Tell us the old, old story! Cheers I am done with South Africa cricket! A total flop and embarrassment!
zolani@fouche9/28/2009 1:55 PM
Unfortunately for you our captains Performance can be Measured, Just look at his world class stats, on Cric Info, nothing you or anyone can say to take the stats away, smith is a fantastic world class player, and any cricket team in the world would love to have him, why the Scorecard readers who dont even watch cricket are so negative about our team , its like saying TIGER WOODS sux Because he last last weekend, come on guys wake up the stats are there
fred smith9/28/2009 1:53 PM
C'mon guys, let's not give them such a hard time. I thought they played quite well for a bunch of senior citizens. It's difficult to be quick between the wickets when you keep tripping on your walker. Bad enough when you're choking...
Jono9/28/2009 1:52 PM
Firstly we didn't choke. We just bowled badly. Had we had swept all before us in the round robin stage and then failed in the semis - that's choking. Secondly, call me optimistic, but we aren't out of the tournament yet - if England beat NZ (and they should) then it will come down to run rate between us, NZ and Sri Lanka.
DP9/28/2009 1:51 PM
As usual, we talk big before the tournament and have to eat humble pie after. Dont feel sorry for them. Lets stop running cricket like players have the right to be in the team and reward performance. Big game mentality is non existent. Sure the bowlers messed up, but we have (supposedly) the best batting line up in the world. But as usual, we panick and just plain stupid batting resulted in....egg on our faces...again...
zolani@fouche9/28/2009 1:50 PM
Unfortunately for you our captains Performance can be Measured, Just look at his world class stats, on Cric Info, nothing you or anyone can say to take the stats away, smith is a fantastic world class player, and any cricket team in the world would love to have him, why the Scorecard readers who dont even watch cricket are so negative about our team , its like saying TIGER WOODS sux Because he last last weekend, come on guys wake up the stats are there
zolani@fouche9/28/2009 1:47 PM
Unfortunately for you our captains Performance can be Measured, Just look at his world class stats, on Cric Info, nothing you or anyone can say to take the stats away, smith is a fantastic world class player, and any cricket team in the world would love to have him, why the Scorecard readers who dont even watch cricket are so negative about our team , its like saying TIGER WOODS sux Because he last last weekend, come on guys wake up the stats are there
william9/28/2009 1:44 PM
can we just get a better ethic in the team.....STOP talking yourselves up, and behaving like it is your first time out of the house and let your cricket do the talking...you are making f**** of yourself infront of the whole world...AGAIN
fred smith9/28/2009 1:43 PM
C'mon guys, let's not give them such a hard time. I thought they played quite well for a bunch of senior citizens. It's difficult to be quick between the wickets when you keep tripping on your walker. Bad enough when you're choking...
Syd9/28/2009 1:43 PM
@Ike; you do not want to start the name calling game.lol. This is simple, Aus have dominated world cricket for more than 10 years and have major trophies to show for it, where is ours? The Proteas are CHOKERS!
LH9/28/2009 1:42 PM
Would have, should have, would make no difference now! It's done, we are out. Let's look ahead and support our team no matter what. All these ugly comments of "supporters" who I'm sure have never played cricket themselves, get a life or go live in another country where matches are won EVERY TIME!!! Maybe ...... a..... nowhere!!!!!!
Alan9/28/2009 1:41 PM
I agree with all who said Mickey mouse Arthur must go.How long has he been the coach and not won any ICC event.We need a coach with fresh ideas.Even it means losing the not so important games but went it comes to top matches, we come home with the cup.We have talented players, not used and coached properly.
AAFiasco9/28/2009 1:41 PM
I am annoyed that people are blaming the bowlers. Please have a look, realistically, at Duminy, Amla and Gibbs...the total affirmative contribution to the series was less than f****l. We went against England and Sri Lanka 11 versus 9.
Hilton9/28/2009 1:38 PM
Great comments guys.....Irrespective of your feelings......One thing....When a company gets into trouble.....dont fire the tea girl....You fire the Managing Director......Mickey Arthur is such a poor Coach / Manager...He has simple no idea... He simple has no finesse.....How the hell can we be the No1 team in the world..God only knows....
brad9/28/2009 1:35 PM
i know parnell takes wickets, but they usually at the death, when the slog is on and most of the damage has been done up front, he is far to expensive to be considered for international standard now, let him play mkore domestic cricket and learn then return. For now we have a whiley character like Ntini with all the experience in the world on the sidelines, use him or even Tsotsbe who may not prove as expensive as Parnell
protea 4 ever9/28/2009 1:35 PM
Mpredi................bafana reached the semis after losing one drawing one againt Iran and winning 1 againts new zealand, When last did a SA soccer team beat world class opponents like Brazil, Spain???????? Rather stick to soccer and keep your mindless opinion for yourself
LH9/28/2009 1:35 PM
Couldn't have said it better Michael Cousins. Everyone is dissapointed, but isn't it just like these so-called Protea supporters. Instead of supporting the Proteas, they try to break them down to the ground. I have not seen one team in ANY kind of sport that can win ALL matches they play. You win some and you lose some. This will only make them go back to the drawingboard and fix the errors. It would have been another story if the Proteas won, these same so-called supporters would have been o' so kind. Build a bridge and get over it. STILL A PROUD PROTEA SUPPORTER!!!!!
Who to support?9/28/2009 1:34 PM
A team of overrated individuals vs a team of underrated individuals, the result was inevitable. At least now the SA fans can just relax and watch the rest of the cricket, it is very stressful being a Proteas Fan... why is it that our players can not work out that needing 100 runs of 60 balls means run a ball is just not going to get you there???!!!
Fouché9/28/2009 1:33 PM
The problem lies at the feet of Graeme Smith, a mediocre player, and a rubbish captain that can't begin to understand what it means to provide leadership. Well done.
Ike9/28/2009 1:33 PM
typical SA supporters. cant wait till you put a foot wrong. ungrateful t****, sunny day "supporters." as for me, this team has made me proud over a long period of time, and there will be bad days at the office. this was one of them.
Graham9/28/2009 1:33 PM
Oz..........that explains your racist comment........climb back under the bush where your type belong. Such comment's are not on !
Renny9/28/2009 1:32 PM
Mickey & the the boys, you broke our hearts with that defeat. You should have prepared better. Ouch!!!
Blueface9/28/2009 1:27 PM
I just wanna say...CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Protea supporter9/28/2009 1:27 PM
It kills me how fickle cricket supporters are!! The Proteas didn't get to number 1 for nothing. They deserved it. Every other team in the tournament had been playing for months before coming here. Match practice is what was lacking.
paulvs9/28/2009 1:26 PM
@Colin. Good point. The actuall truth is that the players are unfit, and overweight and some are over rated. Surely there are other players that can fill the boots of Kallis, Boucher and Steyn. We need competitive players, not one day wonders. As highly paid sportsmen, they need to perform, for that is what us, the paying public, pays to go and watch.
Syd9/28/2009 1:26 PM
I will say this; I am a proud South African but we CHOKED again! This needs to be addressed. While there are a lot of reasons why the team performed the way they did, it also means people are responsible for it. Arthur should have made sure we were better prepared, Smith should try having a plan B on the field and think on his feet more. Individuals: Arthur should be DROPPED as coach, Smith dropped as captain and play as a batsmen, Boucher should be dropped in all teams, Kallis should play only Tests, A Morkel should be played at 5 at all times, v/d Merwe should be used as a pinch hitter at any time, Botha as Captain, De Villiers used at 3, JP either dropped or used as opener, Gibbs dropped. All in all; we need to change things drastically
Leon9/28/2009 1:26 PM
Because they refuse to take on new talant. Neil Wagner whom left SA for NZ bacause the SA team refused to give him a chanse is currently the top wicket taker in NZ for the past year, but unfortunately he must play for 3 year at a club before he can join the NZ national team. SA, be aware, the players you refuse now, is going to break you two years from now. VIVA NZ
Sangoma9/28/2009 1:25 PM
That game should have been easily won. My feel is they got their planning wrong again: They should have taken that last powereplay before the last 10 overs as most teams (and i say most including Bangladesh) up the tempo anyway in the last 10overs. JP and Smith would have had to play normal shots and easily get value for their shots if they had taken that last powerpaly earlier. They always say we have the firepower down the oders to chase 9/10 an over, while that is true it does not mean you should tempt fait all the time to see as tow wether that firepower still applies. I understand if you are 5 down and there is a need to consolidate before giving it a bash to leave 9/10 runs an over to the guys down the order. As much as i disike Austaralia, this is where they are good, even if they are chasing a big scrore, Australia always keep up with the rate, hence they usually win with overs to spare when chasing BIG scores. If Gibbs or AB had stayed for a little while longer (i.e either one gotten a 70 or so), we would have probably won that game as these two really know how to setup a run chase, particularly AB. Gibbs always plays as if he is chasing 399 that's why he doesn't always come off. I love Morkel in 20/20 (ala 20/20 game agaisnst Aus @ wanderes) but even Morgan for Eng has done more in 50 over format over a sorter period of time. My point being they are puting too much pressure on him when leaving 9/10 an over when chasing. Lose this STUPID mentality of saying we have firepower down the oder to chase 9/10 an over.
Jonnie9/28/2009 1:25 PM
This is what upsets me about SA and its fair weather supporters! we still have an awesome team capable of taking on any team in the world. England played their best ODI game in a very long time, and were the best team on the day. Matters will be ste right on their tour later this year. @Brett: Kallis suffered a side strain and couldn't bowl, idiot. Smith didn't want to risk him as a batsman to push him for more overs.
WTF9/28/2009 1:25 PM
Who cares. It's the nature of tournaments. To win tournaments you have to be lucky. To be #1 team in the world, you have to be good over a protracted period, which is why Eng are 4th or something. Tournaments produce shocks. (look at NZ's exit from the 07 RWC against France, for goodness' sake). SA just played badly at a time when they should have played well. So that's happened in 3 or 4 matches over the last 10 years. Big deal. We're still the best ODI and Test team in the world based on long-term form, and that's more important. People who rant and rave about tournaments and silverware don't know anything about cricket. We may lose the occasional battle, but we're way ahead in the war. Don't touch this team. Just give them a month or two to shake off the winter rust and then we'll see.
Richard9/28/2009 1:25 PM
Smith - What is it with all this cramping!! Seems unique to SA players. Photos of him without his shirt on seems to suggest he is pretty flabby and potentially not superfit. This is the top end of international sport. That fitness coach better get his act together. Same applies for the stocky Kallis who also cramps after a few overs.
Dewald Nel9/28/2009 1:24 PM
Dale steyn se woorde voor die begin van di toernooi.... "no team can match us"... miskien was hy onder di indruk zimbabwe & bangladesh speel(wonder wt se hy nou?). Om te se suid-afrika het wedstyd oefening kort gekom.... elke keer is daar verskonings wanneer ons in groot toernooie misluk... Die springbokke het n baie moeilike jaar agter die rug sover, maar ht vriend & vyand verras mt hul briljante spel, selfs weg va di huis af. Selfs di bafana het beter gedoen, te minste het hul di halfeind gehaal. Hulle het al my support vi volgende jaar!!
Anon9/28/2009 1:24 PM
When SA do well Smith gets all the credit, when we fail (which is every tournament btw) it is always someone else. The buck stops with the captain. And as it stands, he has been in charge for years now and the trophy cabinet is still bare. There needs to be a change from CSA in their approach to tournaments, perhaps a new captain is not far amiss. Sadly Smith is protected from any accountability. The SA team also seems so arrogant, not like the boks who are the picture perfect chamption team. Dead wood needs to be cleared out of the SA team, starting with Smith as captain.
Ben9/28/2009 1:24 PM
1. We are rusty. 2. Our bowling was average at best 3. Could have done with at least one more batsman coming to the party. 4. Mpredi you're a moron. Why watch if you don't like the game? Go watch bafana then. Your idea of the stats is that of a n00b! You're the worst kind of "fan". Love em if they win. Hate em if they lose. Pfft. The coming British tour is going to be killer! The boys will be firing on all cylinders by then.
Trev9/28/2009 1:23 PM
The Proteas have never been able to win the big important games. Unlike our Springbok Rugby players, when it comes to the important big games, the Springboks raise teir game and win. The Proteas need to learn how to raise their game and win the big games, otherwise they will always be chokers! The Proteas trophey cabinet is still empty!
Jon9/28/2009 1:22 PM
They're born to choke. Not always as embarrassingly as that cringeworthy and infamous Klusener-Donald absolute choke-of-the-century, but choking really is their team hallmark.
Willie Smit9/28/2009 1:22 PM
I think the bulk of the problem has to lie with our coach Mickey Arthur. I am convinced that we have the best squad in the tournament, but the team selection, preparation and on the field decisions have been appalling. The reason we are not match ready is 100% the coaches fault, and certainly no excuse, it is not like they only found out about this tournament 2 weeks ago. Secondly it is the coach's responsibility to prepare to team for facing a new challenge like Sri Lanka's Mendis, but obviously the team had no plan in facing him. We also persist with the same team and same game-plan for every game, even after it failed so miserably in the first game. When last did we see an unorthodox bowling change or field position get us a wicket, or a shrewd selection based on the conditions of the day, win us a game. The opposition know exactly what to expect, and we are getting out smarted by everyone else.
Chris G9/28/2009 1:21 PM
At least now they can rest for a month before they play again, I'm sure they're exhausted after having to play a whole 3 games.
Trev9/28/2009 1:21 PM
The Proteas have never been able to win the big important games. Unlike our Springbok Rugby players, when it comes to the important big games, the Springboks raise teir game and win. The Proteas need to learn how to raise their game and win the big games, otherwise they will always be chokers! The Proteas trophey cabinet is still empty!
Gary9/28/2009 1:20 PM
@David Burger - what is the point of going at '60% for the summer' when you need to be at 100% at all times in international cricket - this is a professional outfit and no excuses are acceptable. England are going to become an increasingly tenacious enemy under Andy Flower, something SA need to get their heads around.
Graham9/28/2009 1:19 PM
Oz..........that explains your racist comment........climb back under the bush where your type belong. Such comment's are not on !
Webb9/28/2009 1:19 PM
Perhaps it was a bad day at the office as you can't be expected to win everything - but i***** and arrogant comments from players like Steyn prior to the competition as to how brilliant the Protea's are, don't win any friends or sympathy. It's back to the drawing boards with the tag "chokers" well and truly glued to their necks!
Malcolm Graham Jefferis9/28/2009 1:19 PM
The team just do not have BMT. They are arrogant and believe that by pitching up they will scare the opposition into submission. Mickey Arthur has done nothing for this team, please bring back Ray Jennings or Keppler Wessels. At least they bring dedication and discipline to the team. Also the team became No 1 in the world by default thanks to Australia's poor form. They did not earn the position. We are hugely disaapointed and perhaps those players shouting their mouths off by claiming to be the best team in the world can now bask in their embarassment. Get rid of Mickey Arthur now.
Willie Vermaak9/28/2009 1:18 PM
AMA-CHOKE-CHOKE.................................
koos9/28/2009 1:18 PM
@Brett...j is natuurlik n boer want j kritiseer net Parnel.At least het hy wickets gevat.Julle liefling boerseun,Dale Steyn, het ook netso kak geboul ma j mention nie hom nie.Hy is n arrogante doos want voor die tournament het hy gese,NO TEAM CAN TOUCH SA.En die kolwers het hom goed gemoer.
Doc9/28/2009 1:16 PM
What utter rubbish comments being posted!! SA were outplayed (only just) by a brilliant England on the day. This is the same team that just recently beat Australia in one day series at home and away, the same Australia that beat England 6-1 just before the Champions Trophy!! The players don't become rubbish just overnight. As for Kallis not bowling more than three overs - HE WAS INJURED! Brett was obviously drinking at Centurion and not watching the cricket....
Nicholas9/28/2009 1:15 PM
At least we won something: The ICC Champions Trophy Chokers Award
DPH9/28/2009 1:14 PM
They deserve all the criticism they receive! The label of 'chokers' has been associated with this team such a long time, I think they have actually begun to believe that they cannot win a major trophy. The Proteas are Cricket's equivalent of the All Blacks, only any good when not competing in a major tournament. I can now understand how the New Zealanders must have felt every time their Rugby team exited the Rugby World Cup prematurely over the past 20 years, One ICC Champions trophy victory in 20 years is slim pickings for the most talented team on the planet. Come on Proteas! How much longer are your fans going to have to stomach this persistent under - achievement?
terry9/28/2009 1:13 PM
Who was the i**** who decided that it was fine to come off a 4 month spell of inactivity - straight into this tournament without any warm up matches? That diplays a level of arrogance and stupidity that I thought only SAFA and ASA could dish up!!! Against SriLanka and England our bowlers dished up a load of rubbish that showed they were clearly short of match practice - in both cases they leaked 50 excess runs that ended up costing us both of those matches.
Ian9/28/2009 1:12 PM
Anotrher tournament,another disastrous result for South Africa.One could barely accept Micky Arthur's excuses after the loss to Sri Lanka,and we wait expectantly for more sorry excuses for yesterday's performance.The mantle of the number one side in the world does not sit easily on the Proteas shoulders.There has to be a common denominator in all the so-called shock losses over the past years.Other than the players,the name that stands out above all others is Arthur.Surely it's now time to get a coach who produces the goods rather than just talks a good line.We will never be the true number one side in the world until we win a championship. How much longer do we have to wait?
Geeven9/28/2009 1:11 PM
Arthur, Gibbs, Kallis and Boucher should all go now! If they don't then we will end up like Australia when Warne, Mcgrath and Gilchrist went We are never going to win anything with 'dead wood' that dictate. Drop Duminy for a match or 2. That should wake him up. It will also send a strong statement to younger, hungrier players that there is a chance to make the national team based on performance and that the team is not reserved for certain players. Lastly the Protea team doctor should be taught how to administer the Heimlich :-)
Stephen Giles, Kroonstad9/28/2009 1:09 PM
Like we Ozies; you can't win every time!
Michael Cousins9/28/2009 1:09 PM
Well done England. A great all round team performance. Andrew Strauss is a gentleman and a credit to the game of cricket. SA were beaten fair and square by a superior performance on the day. This is tough to acknowledge been a staunch SA supporter. Give credit where it is due
Stephen Giles, Kroonstad9/28/2009 1:08 PM
Like we Ozies; you can't win every time!
hugo9/28/2009 1:08 PM
And then the fools want to know why they weren't nominated for the ICC awards. Bunch of choking jokers!!!
Hannetjie9/28/2009 1:08 PM
I think the Proteas suffered from a lack of match practise and proper preparation - no team can have a 3 month layoff and then come into a world tournament and expect to perform. It is the team management that should be critisized. In addition, why did nobody support Graeme Smith while batting his heart out? Gibbs, Kallis and Abe de Villiers falling to 'soft dismissals'. Our bowlers were poor !!!!! Hats off to Graeme but he cannot do it alone.
Dan the Man9/28/2009 1:08 PM
It seems that we simply cannot prepare for an international tournament properly. Either we peak at the beginning of the tournament and don't sustain this form till the end - or we don't peak at all. How we expected to win a tournament with no preparation is beyond me. And Mickey Arthur trying to use it as an excuse is preposterous - Mickey, you're the one who should be making sure the team is prepared and if they are not should be held solely responsible for it. We have the talent, but we still seem to be lacking the brains/mental strength/creativity/flair (or all of the above) to make the most of it...
Tony9/28/2009 1:05 PM
They batted like it was a test series and showed no urgency in anything they did. Another typical choke.
renier9/28/2009 1:05 PM
this happened due to lack of preparation, all other teams played cricket very recent while we have not played for over 2 months, looks like a error from management, or did we think we were good enough
Brett9/28/2009 1:04 PM
I hope our loss yesterday is a big wake up call and a lesson to be learnt. Our performance showed what a 1 dimensional team we actually are and this is one of Mickey Aurther's shortfalls is that we lack a plan B. It is almost a certain that the opposition know when our spinners are going to bowl and that Steyn and Parnell will bowl at the death. Fair enough but what if Parnell and Steyn are going for 6 and 7 an over. Granted it was a very flat pitch yesterday. However Kallis who was going at 4.6 per over only bowled 3 overs??? Why not let him have a bowl at the death, he couldn't have done any worse that Parnel. I also think our batting seriously let us down as we gave away at least 5 wickets and we lacked serious intensity and motivation. I was at the game and it looked as if the boys were just going through the motions. I am bitterly disappointed not because we lost but in the manner in which we lost... What is PLAN B???
Oz9/28/2009 1:04 PM
What is wrong with the SA team? Are they still being so dumb!!!!!!!! Drop Boucher, JP and Kallis, there is de villiers that can stand wocket and bring two fresh new batsmen in. What is wrong with Loots Bosman? Still bloody racist cricket and good for you that you lost!!!!!! Catch a wake-up and learn. I hope this gets posted!!!!!
David Burger9/28/2009 1:04 PM
Complete over reaction. Our guys have only had 3 matches after a 3 month layoff and are rusty. Engalnd have been going at it all summer and learning some lesson from Australia. Our bowlers dont become rubbish after 3 months all of a sudden! England played above themselves and still only beat us by 20 runs. We have not even hit 60% for the summer!
V77769/28/2009 1:04 PM
another flop....so whats new? Sad thing is now I have to surrender the remote to the wife....no SA to watch!
Mpredi9/28/2009 1:03 PM
Wow! Chokers!!!! I think Baffons Baffons was little more better than this "world No.1" chokers. Atlest Bafana reached semis at their backyard in a similar tournament. I think we are manipulating world rankings. England is far better team, let alone Sri Lanka, Australia and India. SA must be No.6 in the rankings behind the above teams and Parkistan and New Zealand. What a waste of time watching this tournament, CHOKKKEEEEERRRRRRSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
David Burger9/28/2009 1:03 PM
Complete over reaction. Our guys have only had 3 matches after a 3 month layoff and are rusty. Engalnd have been going at it all summer and learning some lesson from Australia. Our bowlers dont become rubbish after 3 months all of a sudden! England played above themselves and still only beat us by 20 runs. We have not even hit 60% for the summer!
Colin 9/28/2009 1:00 PM
Maybe its time to pay on performance. Both batter and bowlers have averages, if they perform below, get below pay, and vice versa.
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