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Cricket chaos - McKenzie fired

2010-02-08 23:05
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Neil McKenzie (Gallo Images)

Eduan Roos

Johannesburg – The chaos in Gauteng cricket deepened on Monday when Neil McKenzie was sacked after six years as captain of the struggling Lions.

This follows a dispute between McKenzie, one of the country’s most experienced and successful batsmen and captains, and Lions coach Dave Nosworthy about the “direction” the Johannesburg franchise should take.

Sport24 understands that McKenzie heard about his sacking from the Gauteng Cricket Board (GCB) after Nosworthy approached them about the matter without consulting any of the players.

The board is engaged in a power struggle with a number of the province’s clubs following the GCB’s public spat with Cricket South Africa (CSA).

The union was banned from hosting any international matches at the Wanderers before sports minister Makhenkesi Stofile intervened.

A new GCB-council was picked after the heads of former chief executive Alan Kourie and president Barry Skjoldhammer rolled.

Kourie was appointed as “interim advisor” by the union two weeks ago after a majority of the clubs apparently decided to get rid of the current council. It is believed that he will still receive a severance package of R4m, but as a consultant is apparently earning around R125 000 per month.

Up to eight of the country’s 10 other cricket unions have threatened a playing ban against Gauteng.

McKenzie confirmed on Monday that he had been “summarily sacked”.

“It was unexpected and has not sunk in yet,” said McKenzie, who played the last of his 58 Tests just over a year ago against Australia.

“It’s not a personal thing between myself and Dave, but rather a matter of different management styles. He likes a certain structure, while I rely more on instinct and experience.

“I’m nevertheless grateful for the opportunity I had to work with brilliant people at the Lions for six years.”

Nosworthy was asked at the end of 2008 to get the Lions back on the winning track, but under him the team ended last in the recent MTN40 one-day series.

They were the second worst team in the SuperSport Series and have lost their only game to date in the Pro20-series.

“There is a lot of uncertainty about what is happening at board level, but the guys tried their best to ensure that it does not influence our performances,” said McKenzie.

He accepted a Kolpak offer from Hampshire at the end of last month, which probably means that he will not play for the Proteas again.

“I realise I am no longer part of the national plans, but am still more than prepared to do my best for the Lions in the Pro20-series if I’m picked,” said McKenzie.

Thami Tsolekile will take over from McKenzie until Alviro Petersen returns from India.

 

Your Comments

chris2/11/2010 2:08 PM
Cannot wait for the day when every Protea - there will be no more Springbokke, in every sport in South Africa, will be non-white. Hopefully fools like Siyolo who can do nothing else than stirr, will shut up then. South Africans, wake up. The Whites are not welcome in their country of birth anymore. Accept it!!
@ Africa Stile2/10/2010 3:13 PM
Neil is not the only batsman to have made runs for the Lions. Look at guys like Cook, Petersen, Vandiar & Van Jaarsveld, they have scored as many runs if not more than Neil this season. Your comments are biased and invalid. Neil was fired because despite being in charge for ages he failed to lead the team to any significant amount of victories. Under his leadership the Lions have always been at the bottom of all the logs in all formats of the game.
Petersen2/10/2010 11:56 AM
Alviro Petersen is the right man to take over from Neil. Despite the fact that McKenzie is about the only player of class in the Lions outfit at the moment, his captaincy will be missed. Alviro, on the other hand, is a good enough player, with lots of experience at domestic & international level, to lead the team. I think he earned the position which was left vacant & he deserves it. Well done Alviro. But we still need Neil in the team.
Chris2/10/2010 7:45 AM
Go Alviro Petersen
Slog Sweep2/9/2010 7:48 PM
The Lions cricket shouyld follwo the rules about managers and coaches a la the English premiership, if the team fails to perform, sack the coach and get a better one. As for Siyolo, are you on LSD, You clearly have no clue about South African cricket. Even teh EWCB recognise the true worth of South African players who have been shunned in their own country for the sake of PC and Targets.
AFRICA STILE2/9/2010 6:24 PM
Neil you are the best player for the lions,you are the only one that made runs for the lions,How must you win a cricket match if you must play players that doas not deserved to be in the team but must be there because there must be a amount of you know players in the team.I say if you good then you must play.Lions just one thing to say you just lost a good player in your team and South Africa you just lost your best player also.Go over sea Neil South Africa is named the best seller of there sportsman.As for all of you out there Prince is a bad cricket player,check his stats for the last 10 Test matches then we talk again.Then you people out there want to talk about Boucher.Wake up we loosing all our players.
Twisted@Siyolo2/9/2010 4:45 PM
Are you the same Siyolo that got kicked in the head by a racehorse?
Muntuwabantubakuthi2/9/2010 4:44 PM
Change must happen, there is no sport code for such and such people here, there are no Cricket kings we all are and finish and clar. We all own this country not minority or not majority just us and us. if it is time for a black to lead, he must do so tu and who ever must follow just tow the line please people. In soccer we had Neil Tovey as the captain and Gavin is the coach no one is moaning and mummering ( excuse my spelling). Why in cricket and rugby do we have such arguments about who must be and so and so and blar.......blar ....blar. Just stop it maan.
@ Siyolo too,2/9/2010 4:34 PM
Siyolo - did you just watch the last four days of the test in India, did you watch the series against England? Do you even know anything about cricket? Rather keep silly comments to yourself mfana, as a non-white myself, people like you just wanting colour with no merit is very dissapointing, and Tsolekile sucks!
Panties in a bunch2/9/2010 4:11 PM
Siyolo, you are just a stirrer. You know nothing of the game, you only come onto sites like this to cause havoc amongst the people who actually have something usefull to say. Why dont you climb back into that whole you crawled out from and wait for the world cup. Gee, wonder if your knowledge on soccer is as profound as you cricket info.
Just love cricket2/9/2010 3:23 PM
I just do not understand why every discussion of cricket matters always becomes a racial matter. It is actually tiring as we should just discuss the merits of the game without having to bring colour of skin come into it. South Africans have a lot of growing up to do
Steve2/9/2010 3:20 PM
Apply a BEE policy to the team. You can then rename the team to the Black Mambas
JP2/9/2010 2:53 PM
Whitey, Thami is as underprivileged as I am a fish. He is a lazy bad tempered little man with a bad attitude and has taken what he has been "GIVEN" and pissed it away. Ask nyone who has played sport against him and you will hear the same thing. How wouold you like to be calles a c%&t evertime you play sport against someone.
Sean2/9/2010 2:41 PM
Neil is a good man and good player, but the time has come. Six years with a really poor performance record as Captain, maybe time for a new wave after him having already gone through 3 or 4 coaches. Really glad to see a player go this time and not a coach, as I have never seen a coach bowl a ball, set a field, or hit a boundary. The Captain needs to take responsibility in cricket for on field performances! Go the Lions on your new route
Craig @ Siyolo @ bob2/9/2010 2:28 PM
Hey Siyolo Did you actually watch Tsolekile keep wicket in India? Boucher keeping with a bad back is far better than Tami ever was. Ya know, just 'cos you're black doesn't mean you have to support black incompetence, you do have the option to support the best player.
Auzzie-ECC2/9/2010 2:27 PM
This was l-o-n-g overdue.Time to go mate.Transformation is now in full swing in the corridors of power.Mr Butana I commend you for the work put in behind the scenes. Virus I have said it before in fact last year already that this guys is destined to great things to come.Now bring in the trophies buddy Auzzie salutes you because you've come a long way since we met in Pretoria.To those who feel aggrieved (go to the nearest coast, take a boat sail into the ocean and fall of the edge/horizon) it is the making of a very new SA in cricket circles and the changes will soon ring in the national team too watch the space.
Gerald2/9/2010 2:18 PM
Tsolekile's 1st-class average is 27.5 which is pretty low even for domestic cricket. He will never play international again. As for McKenzie, he did well for the Proteas for a season or two and then lost form contributing to our loss against Australia at home. Prince recovered from injury and replaced him as opener - who had been in imperious form when he fell out. Since then McKenzie has not scored enough runs domestically to bring himself back into contention. Not sure what you people are complaining about. Personally I would like to see one of the specialist opening youngsters like Dean Elgar (22) get a look at instead.
Whitey2/9/2010 1:52 PM
For everyone bashing Thami, please go and research why he attended six disciplinary hearings in hockey. Among the reasons is that his team was not dressed in the correct kit, for a team from an under-priviliged community kit was an expense that they could not budget for they had greater challenges facing them. reading some of the reasons I think it was just a matter of snobbish behaviour from officials that resulted in him being labelled as ill-disciplined. In any case this article deals with McKenzie's inability to lift his team from the bottom end of the log for some years now!
Ross2/9/2010 1:47 PM
tsami is a shi**y cricket player i am sorry to say that. Neil you have been a great representative for SA cricket nationally and domestically. For you idiots out there saying prince is only there cause of his skin colour is horse sh*t. There are no openers in SA so they have to sacrifice prince as an opener. Look how well he was doing at 6 before he got injured, he is an amazing cricket player. I perosnally think JP duminy needs a little rest from the international team to get his game back on track. Stick prince in at 6 and then start trying out some young new openers ie: Rylee rossouw just a thought. Herschelle you are still the best boet
TB2/9/2010 1:46 PM
K*k province, k*k team, k*k attitude in Cricket & Rugby, Highest crime stats in SA. What more do you need to convince yourselves that you should be incorporated into Zim?
valentino2/9/2010 1:09 PM
siyolo, there are three things wrong with thami's cricket, he cannot w/k, he cannot bat and he is a quota player keeping other talented players out of the team. Oh , keep your opinions to banana banana, it befits your lack of intelligence.
valentino2/9/2010 12:59 PM
sijojo or whatever, i suppose JZ is also your "hero" ne. Ha ha ha, with that quota player thami in charge you will probally see gauteng demoted to club level, hell but it is sad when other sport codes is brought down to the standard of soccer in this country.
@ Siyolo2/9/2010 12:46 PM
Stop teasing everyone Siyolo. They will think you are really as stupid as the funny comments you post.
phakmi2/9/2010 12:45 PM
Mackas ma booi!! Come down to the Dolphins!! We need a good captain!
CJay2/9/2010 12:19 PM
When will Gauteng cricket and rugby wake up. I thought we were suppossed to be the wealthy province, however seems like we cannot get our teams to perform, and it always goes back to the administration. My son plays for U12 area cricket and they have cancelled area cricket because of administration problems at that level. Seems like it's out of control across the board and the players and supporters are the ones who suffer. No wonder no one wants to attend the Lions cricket or rugby games?????
MARS2/9/2010 11:54 AM
Neil, Come play for the dolphins
Louis2/9/2010 11:27 AM
I see the stirrings of a soccer-type take-over by the greedy. Woe betide the game of cricket. As for pie-eating has-beens, enough said.
JP2/9/2010 11:24 AM
Siyolo my friend! Have you ever met Thami, or even played sport against him. Leader my a..! Got thrown out of hockey for hitting a player over the head with a stick. Abuses anyone he plays against! Messed around at WP like he was Gods gift to cricket. Fine choice for Captain!!!
Gatsby2/9/2010 10:51 AM
McKenzie vs Prince? You guys can't be serious! McKenzie is a good player, but his abundent chances to make good in the SA squad have bared no fruit. One lack-luster performance after another, with the occassional decent score. McKenzie's whole stint with the SA side went through what Prince is going through now. McKenzie failed to rise from the ashes... Not everyone is as fortunate as Jacques Kallis, you know!!!
Richard2/9/2010 10:29 AM
McKenzie HAS A WIN RECORD OF 36% as captain so if this is how you rate success i feel very sorry for the LIONS that they did not have anybody to put in his place earlier.
CitizenX2/9/2010 10:26 AM
Looking at the performance of the HL over the last few seasons perhaps it is time for major change from top to bottom. Years ago the "mean machine" of Transvaal was a highly respected cricket province yet today they simply prop up the logs at the bottom and in all honesty are not getting any better. This happens in most cases where the head has no idea on what it is doing. As in GL rugby.............fire them all!
Athenkosi2/9/2010 9:58 AM
" Gods Grace be with you all "
Punani2/9/2010 9:45 AM
A four million rand severance package for the pie-eating champion Alan Kourie? 125K a month to consult? This for a hefty has- been spinner with no known business credentials. I thought those sort of packages were the sole domain of corupt government officials! Nice to see a fat white boy on the gravy train!
Mean machine2/9/2010 9:26 AM
Sorry to see you go Mac - you didn't deserve such treatment at all. Sign up with Titans, as they are the only professional franchice. Nosworthy might be a great guy, but he hasn't delivered the silverware at any franchise before - so, he should be fired! Tami, great w/k but too old to add value. Lions in any case a bunch of old "has-been-players" i.e. Tami, Zander, Deacon...not to mention their slow/overated bowling attack. It muct have been Mac's biggest furstration to manage them. Get Ray Jennings in charge and sign new upcoming bowlers asap...otherwise GCU will become the "bafana-bafana's" in SA cricket, if it isn't already the case!
Siyolo@ bob2/9/2010 9:15 AM
Tsolekile has not been given fair opportunity to show his talent, they have persisted with the " great Mark Boucher" hahaha, you are such an idiot, Boucher is useless, old and untalented..........Tsolekile beats him in all departments, batting, keeping and is a fantastic leader and captain.......... I think you need to read more cricket books to get an understanding of this game, you silly fool
Arabile2/9/2010 9:07 AM
This man was a stalward and will be missed. I feel for the lions as their team just never cuts it. The bullring will never be the same again.
bob2/9/2010 9:04 AM
@Siyolo - Wow, have you even picked up a cricket bat in your life??? Thami is a half decent player, and I say Half decent because only half the teams he's played for have actually stuck with him!! As a keeper he is ok, but as a batsmen he is useless - do you really think that he is better than the Great Mark Boucher? Do you really think he is a better captain than either the Late Hansie or the Great Graeme Smith... Get a life Siyolo!!!
carl2/9/2010 9:02 AM
what most of you tend to forget is, That a team can only succeed if it is formed forged from true and reliable potential. Why must a truly great batsman be sacked when the coach is not able to motivate and cultivate a winning side. Sack the coach and management. And to the rest of you that always have so many bad things to say about our sportsman. How many times have you represented your country. And trust me guys W@ nking doesnt count.
JJ2/9/2010 9:01 AM
Why can the dolphins follow suit and sack Khan and do a cleanout of management. If MckEnzie was given the same opportunities to fail as Prince, I am sure he would have come good by now. He was good and could have forged a great partnership with Smith.
tman2/9/2010 8:58 AM
To all those wasting web-space writing hatred..white/black i don't care...but please this is a cricket matter so stay away from bafana if u have no interest in them, it is idiots like you why our teams never go forward, coupled with the selective journalism from the joke that claims to SA media...all shall witness when Babylon falls, watch this space..one love
Dave Robbins2/9/2010 8:53 AM
This is not good for SA cricket, and it gives the national selectors a dilemna because they can't bring McKenzie into the opener equation (for my money, go with Herschelle Gibbs - he is class) any longer. The comments about Tsolekile; ask any cricket or hockey player in the Western Cape what they think and you will be left with no doubt in your mind that he was ill-disciplined and temperamental. I can't see the Lions improving under his captaincy.
edward2/9/2010 8:48 AM
At last there is a reader [Siyolo] who knows something about cricket.Fota should stick to tiddlywinks as he clearly knows nothing about cricket.Even Kepler knows Tsolekile should be captain of South Africa.The only reason he was dropped by WP was because he was black.He told me that himself so it must be true !
tom2/9/2010 8:46 AM
For those of you who don't know, "Tsolekile received a suspension from the sport of hockey after hitting an umpire." ( http://www.thepost.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=&fArticleId=vn20060731111952130C572514) Is this the kind of guy you want to be captaining your team? He puts a different spin on "leading from the front"!
Stuart2/9/2010 8:44 AM
I am sorry to say that Thami Tsolekile might be a good gloveman but at least we in the Cape recognised that you can not just be in a team for that. His captaincy like his batting is very poor. In the 80's/90's Richie Ryall was far a better gloveman then Tsolekile and for the same reason never made the SA side as Richardson could bat. Oh and for those who forget where was Tsolekile last year.........club cricket for Langa CC.....
LBW2/9/2010 8:43 AM
Dear Siyolo:I really wish that they'd make the entire Proteas team black to keep people like you (who don't know anything about cricket) happy.I'll have to start supporting a different team now that McKenzie's been sacked as the Lions will probably never win a game again...Up the Bucs!
elsa2/9/2010 8:39 AM
it is always about skin colour. no matter how good you are..
KELVIN MUNSTER2/9/2010 8:39 AM
Edward, wake up and smell the coffee. MCKenzie is a true professional, great batsman and outstanding captain. He is way better than Ashwell Prince, who is only in the Proteas team because of his dark tan.. But thats the way it is in SA...white players have to be sacrificed in terms of abilty so that we can please the politicians. neil you are an excellent cricketer..good luck at Hampshire. As fpr Tsolelkile...he is not good enough at international level..let the facts speak for themselves.
Peter2/9/2010 8:33 AM
Has anyone considered that the coach is also responsible for results ? What has Nosworthy done for the franchise ? Not one piece of silverware - and Kourie got rid of the last coach who won a trophy, Gordon Parsons / 20/20. Why not get rid of the coach to ?
iain2/9/2010 8:27 AM
Siyolo on what planet are u on.Clearly u neva played cricket and dont know cricket.Please stick to what u know cause its clearly not cricket.
@Siyolo2/9/2010 8:27 AM
You have got to be kidding, Its not April Fools yet. Lets have some constructive commentary, not BS, please.
SIYOLO CLOWN2/9/2010 8:24 AM
Siyolo...stick with soccer - go back to your pathetic bafana...you don't pack a clue !!!
Obvious2/9/2010 8:23 AM
Didn't McKenzie make the most first class runs in SA last year? I know he was tipped for opening during the England tour when Prince started failing. Obviously motivation/form wasn't lacking on his side
ANON2/9/2010 8:20 AM
Idiot Siyolo graces us with his stupid comments again. I didn't think that there were people that dumb.
matt2/9/2010 8:18 AM
Neil dropped and they going to put Thami in his place? What on earth are they smoking, Thami has no discipline, never has never will. Sad loss to Lions cricket, pity they haven't learnt from WP mistakes when the persisted with Thami and were let down at every turn
Sticky wicket2/9/2010 8:11 AM
Siyolo - In your dreams Bra.... What are you smoking?
Cricket lover2/9/2010 8:00 AM
First of all I don't think that Neil is a bad player at all and is one of the better captains in local cricket. He has a sound technique although he is sometimes found wanting outside his off stump. As for "the last rhodesian" Prince's inclusion as opener has nothing to do with colour but more a case of having to include his class and opening is the only spot available. He has struggled lately but many batsmen go through a slump from time to time ( How about Kallis and AB's slumps? they were still included) Neil was never going to be a longterm memeber of the Proteas so give the spot to someone who is. I guess your screen name of "the last rhodesian" just gives us an insight into your psyche and wanting to play the race card.
Leon2/9/2010 7:58 AM
Neil M has a freakin hot sister and desrves to be made president just for that...
William2/9/2010 7:55 AM
Why is there so much politics in our sport? Let the administrators administer and the players play. I think Dave No(s)worthy should get the boot as he has done nothing to improve cricket at the Lions - just look at their results! Sorry to see Neil go.
Sean2/9/2010 7:50 AM
@siyolo - you know nothing about cricket, if you have nothing of value to say then rather keep quiet and dont embarrass yourself - this is a good rule to apply in life and you might actually gain some benefit from it.
Tieho2/9/2010 7:49 AM
Gauteng cricket has never been honest, straight nor just ever. Mckenzie is a great player, the coaching team-is both clueless and have favourites. Vaugh-what has he ever done consistantly to deserve the chances he has always been given-all he has remained is a child star. How many Gauteng cricketers-not about race-mostly black have had to leave and run overseas to play-i can name five currenlty! look at thier developement structure non existant-the only great thing they have done in the last few years was bring in Fridel and perhaps Thami. Anyways a backward union ran by individuals who i suspect may have a problem with Mac because he may be pushing for more transformation in the union's develop. structures!
shame2/9/2010 7:42 AM
Edward must replace McKenzie, he doesnt even look at the same games or stats as we are and that are the kind of people running the lions, he will fit in well with them as well as giving an alien to make the team. Problem is : Cut crap of picking useless players because of having political correct teams.
Siyolo2/9/2010 7:32 AM
Tsolekile should be the captain of South Africa, not just the lions!! If Gauteng cricket board can see this, surely the SA selectors can see this too!! WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!
Derek2/9/2010 7:26 AM
Once again those who cannot play the sport know better than those who are out there actually doing it. MacKenzie's relaxed captaincy has always drawn the best from players.
FOTA2/9/2010 7:24 AM
@Edward - your dealer must be a rich man. Tsolekile better than McKenzie???. Not ina single discipline, least of all his leadership ability. Average player, pitiful tactician. Calling McKenzie a loser is just plain ignorant, there are very few side int he world that would not have him. He is going to star overseas and we will be left asking, again, why we do not have him in the national setup. Wisden Cricketer of the Year in 2009?. Tsolekile - cannot even find him on Cricinfo?
@TheLastRhodesian2/8/2010 11:51 PM2/9/2010 7:05 AM
your name says it all i guess. catch a wake up boet
Adri 2/9/2010 7:05 AM
@eward your cricket knowledge is lacking.Mckensie is the best captain in South Africa and that includes Grame Smith.
Andre2/9/2010 7:04 AM
I liked Mckenzie, but has everybody chose to ignore the fact that is under his captaincy that the team is where it is at the moment? It is not only his fault, but, somewhere down the line the captain needs to take responsibility. "instinct and experience"??, sorry buddy, but Gauteng needs the structure!
sam2/9/2010 6:30 AM
so bored with cricket politics!!!!
Steadfast2/9/2010 5:59 AM
Here we go again - politics interfering in sport. I will not go to the Wanderers again until they remove the present board. I will have to find another team to support now as well. Good luck in England McKenzie. At this rate we will better talent plying their trade overseas than in our local teams.
Emile2/9/2010 4:31 AM
That is what happens if you play for a "k**" team. A natural talent like Mckenzie could have excelled at national level if he had stayed with a professional unit with professional support structures. Why the hell he decided to ever move to the Lions remains a mystery. Something is seriously wrong at the Lions and it is time the UCB steps in and clean out all those old "f****". As the biggest union, they are an absolute disgrace. Wonder why the same is happening at the Lions Rugby franchise? Both Lions franchises are based in JHB, the biggest franchises and both have diabolical administrations. I'm not referring to BEE management - it is those old white farts occupying space in their comfortable offices while their teams struggle every year. Why no changes in management?
Burtfred2/9/2010 2:16 AM
@Edward Wrong on both counts. McKenzie is still avery capable opening bat - far better than Prince in that position. Thami Tsolekile was a K** captain at WP. They dropped him from the side for poor discipline and missing practices. Gauteng cricket, just like so many previously succesful institutions in SA, is being BEE'D to death.
Chumani 2/9/2010 12:57 AM
I dont know where "TheLastRhodesian" gets it that McKenzie was sacked due to his skin colour, as he (Mckenzie) clearly states his demise was brought about by a difference in approach to the game with his "white" coach. I also dont know how Prince forms part of Mckenzie's dismissal as captain of the Gauteng Lions. I dont know about being a great opener though, he, just like Ashwell Prince was converted from a middle order batsman to opener and just like Prince scored well in the beginning but faded badly as his "great opener" prowess waned badly. Judging by your nom de plume one can seriously see why you'd deliberately put race ahead of facts to advance your argument, you weakling. By the way I think he has a fantastic cricket brain and my money was on him to captain South Africa after Shaun Pollock left.
TheLastRhodesian2/8/2010 11:51 PM
well this is sad news, particularly cos McKenzie is still thousands of time s better at opening then Prince!!!!! great opener just a shame he hasn't had a consistent spell for the proteas because of the colour of his skin!
edward2/8/2010 11:39 PM
I am surprised that Mckenzie has lasted as long as he has.He is not only a poor captain but appears to be still sulking after losing his place in the national side.Hampshire must be desperate to take such a loser. What makes a player think he can carry on for ever.At least in Tsolekile The Lions have a captain who deserves to be in the team and has proved his ability as Captain with Western Province
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