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Tiger's fee queried

2009-03-19 09:01
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Melbourne - Tiger Woods' decision to play in the Australian Masters in Melbourne in November sparked heated political debate on Thursday about how much taypayers should contribute to his appearance fee.

The golfing superstar will reportedly be paid $2m to turn up to the Kingston Heath course, with the Victoria state government chipping in half.

Victorian Premier John Brumby refused to confirm the figures but said the crowds flocking to see Woods' first appearance in Australia for more than a decade would pump $19m into Melbourne's economy.

"It secures for us an extraordinary drive in our tourism industry -- it brings people to our state," Brumby said.

He released a report from auditors Ernst and Young estimating 10-20,000 overseas and interstate visitors would travel to the southern city to see Woods.

State opposition leader Ted Baillieu said taxpayers would be unhappy to see their money being used to lure Woods to Australia in tough economic times.

"At a time like this, when people are losing their jobs, it's hard to believe that the Victorian public would think that this is a good idea," Baillieu said.

"When there is concern about high levels of executive salary, the government's spending $1.5m on the highest paid sportsman in the world to come here for a tournament which is not an international tournament."

He also questioned the government's figures, saying the Australian Masters was a stand-alone tournament that would not generate the revenue of full tour events.

"Where is the sponsorship deal, where is the television deal, where's the rights deal and where is the evidence that $19m is going to flow to Victoria because Tiger Woods fronts?" he said.

The Professional Golfer's Association of Australia's director of tournaments Andrew Langford-Jones said Woods' appearance would provide a huge boost for the sport in Australia and the appearance fee was money well spent.

"Many, many people in Australia depend on their incomes and their jobs from the golf industry, it's no different from the car industry or any other industry," he told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

 

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Anonymous User4/6/2009 4:00 AM
Tiger will have to pay 45 percent in taxes so the country will be getting almost all of the money they invested back!
linmic3/23/2009 5:48 PM
I'm sorry guys, i'm not the biggest tiger fan, and i will watch golf, with or without him. Fact is, he did'nt make golf the sport it is today, he added to it, and i refuse to accept the fact that because he is at the top, that he requires such a hefty appearance fee. If he so badly wants to play in the Australian masters then he must play, after all if you want to be No 1 in the world, should you not play against all the players in the world and not just america. I am a proud South African Retief Goosen fan, and no NO 1 tiger will pull me away from that. I would rather play a round of golf with the goose than tiger anyway. Where is the pride in the sport, everything revolves around money money money. Get over it guys, play the game, take your winnings and be proud of a job well done.
Mark3/20/2009 7:43 AM
In the world of golf there is no appearance fee on the USA PGA Circuit. This is a PGA rule. Players who play outside Tournements such as Australian open, Dubai and even Nedbank Challenge are intitilled to ask for an appearence fee. Even our Ernie has been known to get a fee of $1,000,000. So What's the big deal? It seems to me that the article has sparked a political debate in Australia, where the opposition state party is trying to score points.
Jurg 3/19/2009 4:18 PM
Johantjie,you are now the one without facts ,please read my comment again and you will see that you are totally off track.There is no doubt that Tiger was great and is a good example and role model for youngsters regarding the fitness , commitment and profile of a proffesional golfer.He just overcharge on appearance fees.His cost and time surely not R20 million ?Thanks to all for todays chats .bye-bye
Johan3/19/2009 3:53 PM
Jurg, is jy familie van Luke Watson - jy begin nou heel kotserig raak!!
Johan3/19/2009 3:33 PM
Vir die Engelsprekendes onder ons: Jurgie. do not just throw an unfounded opinion out there without being able to support it with arguments that are based on actual facts. I just wonder what are you doing to help orphins and underprivileged children. I will not be at all surpised if Tiger has given much more to charity than you - even if calculated as a percentage of his gross income!!
Jurg van Onselen3/19/2009 3:15 PM
Ek sien my opvolgkommentaar word nie geplaas nie -te hardcore vir die site ?Tiger is in elk geval in 2 jaar n "has been "???
Anonymous User3/19/2009 3:12 PM
Surely Tiger WINS enough so why on earth should taxpayers money be used to pay him to be there ... doesn't one normally have to actually pay an entrance fee when entering a sport's competition ... seems times are tough for all then
Anonymous User3/19/2009 2:25 PM
Mr Van Onselen I think you have a great idea. Boycott (I suppose this is what you meant) Tiger Woods and see who comes down to earth with a thud. Let me give you a clue; It will not be the best golfer in the world chasing a record in majors won. It will not be the man that has won more tournaments than anyone playing golf today. It will not be the man who has helped golf become an A spectator sport again after it simply was shunned by many. It will not be the one guy who did so much to generate income for tournament directors, equipment makers and golf course. Funny, the PGA could manage to turn away sponsors and dictate terms of television because of the pull of Tiger Woods and simpletons like yourself blame him for being paid in order to bring more revenue to the state? Really pathetic and jealous, it seems
Anonymous User3/19/2009 2:21 PM
@Quaser somehow, I doubt if Tiger Woods needs to donate money to anyone to enhance his reputation or get someone to sponsor him. Tiger probably has a list of companies waiting for a chance to sponsor him. He does not need to prove himself worthy of a sponsor. At the end of the day, no businesses wants to run at a loss. Tiger is a PTY LTD and hence needs to run his business and pay his employees. Flying to Australia means he has to hire staff including Steve Williams, run his airplane, hire pilots and flight attendants, an accountant, a lawyer, etc. Think about it.
Jurg van Onselen3/19/2009 2:19 PM
"Johantjie " ;My profiel het jy ongelukkig heel verkeerd , probeer weer ....R20 000 000.00 is defnitief te veel vir n sportman.Sy borgskappe beloop meer as dit .Hy en ander sportmanne het ook n sosiale verantwoorrdelikheid om meer beskikbaar te wees ,Geld vir welsyn en wesies is wel goed maar onthou hy moet sy eie sport "promote". Die arme sot wat op RAS bandwagon klim asb ,gee my krag , kry die chip van jou skouer "butie"......Johan Poeskop ek is n trotse kortbroek met meer kultuur in my pinkienael as jou hele parasitiese klomp voorouers ,nie n soutvool wat met een voet in Brittanje staan en die ander een in Kaapstad nie. Wat sal jy tog sonder "braaivleis" ,"lekker" en ander sappige Afrikaanse woorde in die Buiteland wees ... niks net nog n Suid Afrikaanse rooinek sonder sy eie Kultuur om op terug te val 'Dis tog so lekker om Afrikaans in London te hoor....dan voel ons yog so by die huis ,ai tog niks nie ,regtig niks nie.....
Freshly3/19/2009 2:16 PM
Jurgie, you old biscuit (biskuit?)! I am not good at are Afrikaans. However I am pretty good at speaking English. that is why I write in English, speak in English and don't sound like a complete chop when I try Afrikaans. Every man should know his limitations. Perhaps less "spoed" is needed when are typing in your computer, less chance for mistakes then, eh? The lesson we discovered here today kids is that it is not very advisable to be the first to make a comment if you are incapable of actually writing. I are voting for poeskop for president. He is very eloquent.
Nag ou Grote3/19/2009 2:14 PM
Robbo, part of that return is indirect in that iit goes into the coffers of small business operators like restaurnats, tourism and the like..the rest paves the way for amenity spend...so not a bad equation really..remember this is not south arfrica so you would assume transparency in direct and indirect return..
Anonymous User3/19/2009 2:14 PM
Fact is, to run a no-name tournament would generate far little interest and not television interest. It will be another waste of time tournament with a bunch of no-namers and poor attendance. Paying Tiger Woods to bring in the fans and the prestige of the tournament is hardly a decision that requires brains. Tiger Woods is not forcing anyone to pay his fees. Either you pay him to come or not. Why should Tiger fly to Australia and help them earn sh*tloads of money, and then pat him on his back and say here is your $10,000 prize money. Fact is, the tournament needs Tiger Woods more than Tiger Woods needs the tournament. It's not like Tiger Woods demanded the money. He simply stated that his price to fly to Australia in his private jet to use his crowd pulling power is $2million. To call him names shows remarkable stupidity. We all demand salaries and sometimes demand sign-off fees, especially when our involvement will enhance the employer. Just get over your petty jealousy.
Mpho R3/19/2009 2:09 PM
Ask the countries that host F1 how much they are paying for this right and you will be shocked. If it makes business sense (i.e. there is a return on investment) why not?
Anonymous User3/19/2009 2:08 PM
Jurg I suspect you do not know what you are talking about. People go see Tiger Woods because of his abilities, not because he is a golfer. If other golfers were adequate enough to fill in the void, they would probably charge about the same too. Thing is, if Tiger is in the field, more interest is generated.
Robbo3/19/2009 1:47 PM
Invest 2mil get 19 back? Makes sense to me. However, the it's the people who make the 17mil profit that should pay for the 2mil investment.
Nag ou Grote3/19/2009 1:07 PM
Hey I agree with Poeskop...if anybody has commercial sense you look at your return on invesntment..so if you spend what seems a lot (like 2 mill) but you make 20 mill then that is good business..that's why the rich get richer ...but equally if it's a bad investment ie the outcome is a disaster then you run the risk of losing big time....is it speculative in this instance..I think not...tv rating skyrocket when Woods is in the field not to mention crowd attendance..it's like bringing Becks to the US...
andy3/19/2009 12:54 PM
Appearance fees were started by Hollywood hasbeens to shore up ill spent earnings. Nothing is more dangerous than starting a precedent that has not been well thought out. All of a sudden stars expect appearance fees as opposed to performance payouts.
Johan Poeskop3/19/2009 12:48 PM
Hi Jurgie, you are mos a shortpant wif a qik temper, ne? Gaan skuil agter jou ma se rokpante jou groot, vet baba ganoush...hehehehe. BTW, Tiger is worth MORE than USD2mln...check out how little the Million Dollar is worth without his presence.
Chimhosva3/19/2009 12:48 PM
This is the reason the global economy is in all sorts of problems: If the Aussies cannot afford Tiger they should not wish for him. The man has got a price and if you want him to play then you must pay what he thinks he is worth. Otherwise- Greg Norman is just next door......
Anonymous User3/19/2009 12:28 PM
I wonder if Tiger Woods was a white man... Will all you Woods bashers be saying what you're saying in the above??? I THINK NOT... Get a grip people the man is the greatest golfer the world has seen. He deserves every bit of money he earns. You reap what you sow.
Anonymous User3/19/2009 12:22 PM
You want to attract the best you pay the money. I will pay if I had the money for Tiger Woods to come and play a tournament in South Africa. What some people don't realise is that he is the best individual sportsman in the world. He is a tremendous inspiration to all sportsman and woman. What most people don't know is all the behind the scenes work these athletes put in, e.g. running sport clinics, helping under priveledged through donations, etc. Get a grip people the man is great. I also will not watch a golf tournament without Tiger Woods playing.
piet3/19/2009 12:19 PM
Sorry ouens, stem saam met Jurg - Tiger is nou wel 'n super golf speler, iets wat ek voor my oe kan verdra nie, maar dit daar gelaat. Maak nie saak hoe goed jy is of wie en wat jy is nie, in tye soos hierdie kan dit nie geregverdig word om belaglike bedrae geld vir snert te betaal nie. Hoe gaan hy die ekonomie, voertuigverkope, ARMOEDE,werkloosheid, ens verbeter met sy patetiese teenwoordigheid?????? gold bepaal nie die lewe nie.
Johan3/19/2009 11:55 AM
Jurg, ek kan verkeerd wees, maar ek skat jy is nog bietjie jonk en ek wonder ook of jy tans besig is met klerkskap by 'n ouditeurfirma. Nietemin, gaan doen bietjie navorsing, want jou onkunde is besig om jou in 'n verleentheid te bring alhoewel ek twyfel of jy dit ooit besef!! O ja - definieer asb vir my "belaglike optreegelde" soos gesien deur Jurg van Onselen.
Jurg van Onselen3/19/2009 10:49 AM
Freshly Ground -Ek wonder of jy een woord Afrikaans verstaan.Wie en wat is jy wat agter n skuilnaam kommentaar lewer -dalk n Kenner op die gebied van Koffie !Onthou hierdie "Comments " word teen spoed gelewer liewe " English Grammar Proffesor " Tien uit tien vir jou patetiese skuilnaam. Johan , het jy dalk Geouditeerde syfers van die impak ?Die breer prentjie is dat as belaglike optreegeld in die bek geruk word aanhangers van Woods soos jy dalk die geleentheid sal he om hom by Sun City te sien
Golf Cart3/19/2009 10:30 AM
Just another Wanky Panky Yuppie with too much money. Who cares? Golf can survive without this money-slobbering fool.
K.L3/19/2009 10:28 AM
I think the Victorian State Government should pay everything,espacially if they so sure that they going to receive 19m dollars. Why must the tax payer alway's suffer, they don't stand to make anything out of the so called guaranteed 19m dollars. This is ludicrous.
Bob3/19/2009 10:18 AM
I wouldn't bother watching a tournament that didn't feature Woods. The guy is absolutely the best thing that golf will ever see. Can't wait for him to be back at his best. (He went for knee surgery, was gone for ages and is still no. 1. That speaks for itself). Pay him what he wants. Or don't invite him. Simple.
Chimhosva3/19/2009 10:16 AM
The Aussies are at it again! If you do not like Tiger Woods, then don't invite the man! You can't complain about paying $2million dollars to host the most popular sports person alive. Politicians always spoil everything. Obviously the organisers have a business plan and they believe it is a profitable one for everyone concerned. Leave the businessman and businesswoman to run the business of golf and let the politicians concentrate on their stuff too.
Mbatha,Cape Town3/19/2009 10:15 AM
If you want a lamboghini you pay a set price and if you want a toyota you pay cheaper than lamboghini owners,choose a cheaper,less knows golfer.
Freshly Ground3/19/2009 10:14 AM
What is a biocot and a ridicolous? Are they golfing related affliction? Or is they types of jean pant? Proper grammar and spelling are just so over rated these days.
Quaser3/19/2009 10:12 AM
Tiger has huge pulling power and probably deserves his fee. It is also a way of filtering out what must be thousands of requests for his time and is not different to most other celebrities. Tiger is obviously not struggling financially. What I would do if I was him is to still take the appearance fee, but donate it to a charity in the city/country that he is playing in. Imagine the positive PR for both himself and the game of golf globally. (He would probably end up recouperating the "lost" income through increased endorsement deals anyway.)
dvdm3/19/2009 10:12 AM
Are the appearance fees related to any performance output? For example, does he get paid in full if he does not make the cut?
Johan3/19/2009 10:11 AM
Old Jurgie - you don't know what you're talking about. I suggest you first go and investigate the impact that Tiger had on golf worldwide.
LLoyd Leppan3/19/2009 10:07 AM
In past years there has just been too much free money floating around, waiting to find a home. And so we have these ridiculous appearance fees being paid to "mega earning" film stars, sports stars, media personalities, etc. just to pitch up. I'm all for good tournament money, for good movie money, and so on, but let the best person earn that money. It would be nice if these personalities waived their appearance fees and said, let these monies be directed and paid to charities, upliftment of Africa (computers, etc), etc, then they would be leaving a personal legacy long after their personal star has waned and they have disappeared off the scene.
michael3/19/2009 10:07 AM
Sheer greed!! How much MORE does he need??? Conspicuous Consumption - nothing more, nothing less. Isn't the prize money good enough??
Anonymous User3/19/2009 10:06 AM
I dont see what the fuss is about, if you have a problem then dont pay. thats his price. Jurgen, there are plenty of good golfers i agree, but none of them are Tiger Woods.
Anonymous User3/19/2009 10:02 AM
I agree with that. He is paid enough end this kind of demands in today's economic climate seems plain greedy. Now, if he was to donate the same amount to the bush fire victims or some other worthwhile cause IN Australia it would seem less about me me me than what it looks like at present.
JJ3/19/2009 9:50 AM
Then don't invite him. I know the appearance fees are ludicrous, etc, but thats just his price.
Jurg van Onselen3/19/2009 9:26 AM
I think all Tournament Directors should biocot Tiger Woods and his ridicolous Appearance Fee.It will maybe bring him down to earth.There is enough good golfers to watch.
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