ArthurTurner

Beaten Proteas didn't choke

2009-06-23 10:39
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Sport24 columnist Arthur Turner (File)

Arthur Turner

The Proteas' defeat against Pakistan in the semi-finals of the ICC World Twenty20 was against a better team on the day and certainly not due to choking. This defeat is a classical example, as the final was, of the unpredictability of the 20-over game. Also, both games illustrated how a brilliant individual performance can influence the result.

The Proteas lost a closely contested match by seven runs and to term them chokers based on that performance is harsh. Sri Lanka, like South Africa, also only lost one game in the tournament - the final. The performance of the West Indies in the second semi-final looked more like a team choking to me.

In the end the Proteas were beaten by Shahid Afridi who was brilliant with both bat and ball on the day. He was supported by Umar Gul who bowled a great spell at the end of the South African innings. There was not much Graeme Smith and Mickey Arthur could do about those two outstanding performances.

I highlighted in a previous column the inability of Smith and Jacques Kallis to dominate the 'power play' overs. Pakistan’s winning margin of seven runs was exactly the difference between the 'power play' scores of the two teams.

Smith’s poor form was a big contributing factor to this problem. I wonder to what extent his elbow injury contributed to his batting woes and whether he was fit enough to lead the Proteas. Kallis on the other hand finished the tournament with a good strike rate of 126 and average of 59.50, but this does not tell the story of his performances in the 'power play' overs.

The reaction of the South African public has understandably been one of anger and frustration aimed at the team and especially at Smith and Arthur. However, let’s not forget that they have built one of the great South African teams from the ashes of 2005 when we lost to an average England team in a home series. The Proteas are the best team in world cricket right now in all forms of the game and one defeat does not make them a poor team - or chokers. 

I was quite amused to see the British media also getting on the bandwagon with the chokers tag. Personally, I thought it was a bit rich coming from a nation who has never won a global trophy and has lost in three Cricket World Cup finals and also a Champions Trophy final.

Arthur and his management team will be fully aware that the challenges the Proteas face are not their performances in Test cricket, One Day Internationals or Twenty20 cricket, but the need to win a global trophy. They will be aware that they need to address their poor conversion rate in ICC events by analysing their tactics and personnel.

They have three opportunities to rectify this problem in the Champions Trophy in South Africa in September, World Twenty20 in the Caribbean in 2010 and the World Cup in India in 2011. It is clear that the South African public will not settle for any thing less.

I have no doubt that we have the players and leadership to do it and it is only a matter of time before the Proteas emerge victorious.

Arthur is a former cricket administrator and current player agent.

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Your Comments

Docco9/9/2009 5:49 AM
Arthur must be living on another planet. They choked once again plain and simple ! The likelihood of them doing it again is always there. It has become a very disillusining experience watching this team. At the end of the day, they are not as good as the other international teams that do win silverware. That has now become abundantly clear and the sooner we all relax and just let them play , win or lose , the better for the public and the team.
Anonymous User6/30/2009 7:33 AM
Arthur sounds like he wants to try and score some brownie points with the Proteas team management and CSA. We have been through this before. The Proteas are chokers and will always will be until they win a major ICC tournament. Their record speaks for itself 1996,1999,2003, 2x2007 & now in 2009 losing at the crucial stages of a tounament. So Arthur and all others that use the excuse that Pakistan was the better team on the day, wake up guys, if the other team is better, you need to improve your game as well. Something the Proteas never did. That is a fact
Anonymous User6/29/2009 6:41 PM
Let me be Honest !! why are we chokers? cause when it matters we do not switch gears. Look at Australia, Semi final and final they are on top gear, Pakistan was on their top gear in Semi and Final, Any team who does not switch to top gear during Semi Final and Final are Chokers and nothing else. need clue watch any Semi Final any team lost. The winners shift to top gears while losers choke and remain in the same or lower gear, like we witnessed our team during semifinal ie bad fielding, bowling and batting and very un imaginative decisions.. Sure Pakistan Played better and deserved to win cause they shift to top gear. Also i would hire there psychologist .
Lebo6/26/2009 8:43 AM
ladies this issue is done and dusted. We lost the toss and had to field. Batting second on that slow pitch was never going to be easy. We played a beautiful brand of cricket but we lost some key moments that shifted the game towards Pakistan. We let Bom Boom Afridi dominate our bowling attack. It was his day and he took full advantage. Yes, there were two or more misfields. When batting came, Smith's poor run of form, struggle to scrape together some decent runs, led the run chase into disarray. Jakes had to anchor the innings, something that he does best. the turning point of the match really was when Gibbs and De Villiers left without much contribution. That really put the pair of Kallis and Duminy under enormous pressure. The key was to have wickets in hand in order to go at it in the last 5 overs. Umar Gul's bowling in the 14th over disrupted the plan. From thereon winning the match was really a tough ask. I wish perhaps Bouch could've walked in to the crease before JP. But that's gone now, we lost to a team that out-played us on the day. That won't happen again next time, I HOPE. no more semi-final hoodoo.
Willem6/25/2009 10:54 AM
Can somebody please answer me this - Why are we so afraid to try new tactics?? We have some of the most devastating batters on the bench in Albie Morkel and Roelof vd Merwe! Backed up by Johan Botha and apparantly Wayne Parnell can also bat. If we just threw these boys in a bit earlier and say - have a go - if you come off, GREAT, if you don't, it makes NO difference. If Roelof managed to hit 40 off 20 balls, game over. But no, we always stick to the same old boring frickin gameplan. It has long been a problem in SA cricket that we leave too much for the end and we get away with it mainly due to die-hards such as Boucher and the old greats like Klusener. If we want to win the Cups, we need to be inventive! We need coaches and captains that suprise the opponents. Afridi made a big difference this time - why - because he was given the chance. If we stuck with Albie at 3 or 4 for twenty20's, we would score 200 every time he came off. Thats that!
Frans Badenhorst6/25/2009 8:21 AM
I agree they are not chokers, just not good enough on the day. I beg to differ about Kallis. He played brilliantly using his technique to counter the bowlers. We must look at the "others who did not contribute. What happened to brilliant A.B in the final? What if Jaques attemted six reached the other side of the rope? Nothing of this discussion woud have taken place. Jaques is one for the big occasion hope the "others will follow suit
hoo boy...6/25/2009 8:20 AM
Choking happens when you lose a game you could have won but you "tensed up" - hence the expression. That is exactly what happened to the Chokeas against Pakistan. On any other day it would have been a different story, except that it was a semi-final - or a knockout. Hence the Chokeas needed to find a way to lose. We must remember that they have become Master Chokers now, so their abiltity to lose is very subtle and can fool even the most astute professional observer.
KOBUS6/24/2009 11:06 PM
Proteas in cricket = Kiwi's in rugby: Both of them cannot win a world cup or major tournament although they are predominantly the world's number 1 in their different codes. Not winning a world cup ever although you are number one - that's what one calls chocking. Okay NZ won inaugural rugby world cup but SA was not there!!!!
Anonymous User6/24/2009 8:27 PM
FOR COSTA. Proteas are chokers. They were not flexibe with their batting line-up, Duminy was way too passive, and to have 48 dot balls in the innings is disgraceful. The batsman chosen for the first team should be able to react to tough situations. That's why they are first choice. But Proteas just let the situation get the better of them. No courage, valour or meaningful attempt to get the runs. Gibbs must be replaced. His wicket is just too easy to get. Duminy needs some muscles to hit some fours and sixes when it matters and Kallis, Boucher and Smith seem overweight.Proteas will always reamin chokers until they win an event where all teams are participating. Period. No excuses. India and Australia out early, Proteas play bad in semi and help Pakistan to victory. Pakistan were not impenetrable by no means. Proteas just don't get to a higher gear when it counts in semifinals.
SirGibbs6/24/2009 8:10 PM
I PLEDGE MY FULL AND DEVOTED SUPPORT TO THE PROTEAS. SMITH AND CO...IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS OR THINKS ABOUT THE PROTEAS, KNOW THAT YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE MY SUPPORT 100%
Anonymous User6/24/2009 2:25 PM
Errr, Am I mistaken or is that the definition for 'choking' in a tournament...When you play extremely well in tournament after tournament but never ever ever progress past the semis? No doubt, Pakistan was the better team on the day, but was it because they were that good or we were that bad? Don't get me wrong, I am a Protea supporter through and through and I think that SA cricket is brilliant. We are just our own worst enemies when we try to get the silverware to prove it.
Mike cricket father6/24/2009 2:23 PM
The author of this article must be Graeme Smith's AGENT ?
maxie6/24/2009 1:29 PM
Did every other team in the whole tournament except Pakistan choke?????
Ryno6/24/2009 11:25 AM
Guys if you think you have what it takes to bring an end to the so-called chokers label, go ahead make our tournament. Otherwise shut up.
koos6/24/2009 10:55 AM
At least nobody has really mentioned race yet which is surprising seeing as Arthur and Smith seem intent on driving Gibbs back to drinking. I mean the man blady well won the IPL with the chargers - thats wot you call BMT. But they force him out of the opening berth and opt for 2 proper TEST match players. Just another point here, its amazing that Charl Langeveldt doesnt get mentioned either - he's hands down the best death bowler we had. Mickey Mouse Arthur should have should have gone down on his knees to beg Langeveldt to play in this tournament. But no - too much pride to think clearly. T20 is a new format that we have to adapt to with non-test match players. Can we please get rid of Mickey Arthur already?
koi16/24/2009 10:51 AM
I heard Graeme Smith in his interview after the semi-final and he said that we thought we had the formula for T20 figured out but apparently we haven't. To me that is the problem. Cricket is not played thru a formula and South Africa were too rigid in their bowling and batting plans.
lixard6/24/2009 9:31 AM
I support the Proteas and will continue to do so. Even if they choke from time to time! :-) BTW, Arthur is a journalist, hence his CV says he WRITES about cricket, not that he KNOWS about cricket. So give the man a chance. :-)
Anonymous User6/24/2009 9:24 AM
I think the real reason we keep losing these big tournaments is that we keep going into them with little or no gameplan... Pakistan sent Afridi in at No. 3... and how about that attack they laid on Dilshan in the first over of the final... Sri Lanka did well to mix up their bowlers all thro the tournament, opening with the spinner sometimes, even the Windies attacked the Indians with bouncers but SA went in game after game with the same batting and bowling orders... wheres the strategy?! and to me this means our coach Mr. Mickey Mouse Arthur is not doing his job it seems he's either too scared or too useless to try anything different... and it cost us! we fully deserve the tag chokers! because when it comes to the big games, we go in with no strategy... and are unprepared!
Anonymous User6/24/2009 8:49 AM
No one has mentioned the 45 dot balls - that's almost 8 overs with not a single run scored!!! Complete twerps. As for the conditioning of the team - 3 are overweight by some way. I'm angry.
Anonymous User6/24/2009 8:40 AM
Turner, lost all respect for you as journo, my friend! This is so clearly an attempt by a journo to ingratiate himself with the team so he gets interviews...bottom line, big games, these overweight wankers (you eat out a lot with the team, do you Arthur??) always CHOKE!! Check your history books. Your contract with 24.com should come under review for deliberately false reporting
Anonymous User6/24/2009 8:03 AM
I am so sick and tired of hearing all these so called "experts" criticising these guys. Smith is an excellent captain - commented on regularly by all sports commentators during matches and Mickey Arthur has built up a great team - sure, they didn't win the big one, but lets face it, Pakistan came to the game and won it purely on the brilliance of one player Afridi - had he not performed where would they have been. Yes, it would have taken a brilliant performance from one player to take it from them, but with the runs Kallis made, is it really fair to place any of the blame at his feet - come on guys, don't be so ready to pull the team down - perhaps we should have lost one or two of the initial games as Pakistan did and expectations wouldn't have been so high. Proteas, you are BRILLIANT and I wish you all the luck in September - we are rooting for you. and by the way, Stephen the nasty comment you made is really childish - didn't your mother teach you any manners!
Hein6/24/2009 7:38 AM
As always, it is easier for us as South Africans to moan and complain. Chances are that all the people on this forum (complaining) would quickly take the afternoon off from work, if giving a choice, instead of actually working and contributing. And yet they just as quickly jump up and point fingers at someone else for apparently "not hacking it" when it mattered. Did someone notice the enormous amount of support from the Pakistan fans on that day? I was fairly intimidated (and I was just watching TV). I can only imagine how the Proteas must have felt there on the ground. If our support was only 10% of what the Pakistan team was getting, I'm sure the Proteas would've made it. But no, rather crusify them and spit in there faces. Typical. Well done boys (Proteas).
mkaz6/24/2009 6:27 AM
Pakistan played out of their skin and would have outplayed anyone that day... they were very professional and clinical, just like in the final...it goes to show their unpredictability... it just happened to be SA and thus they got re-labelled as the chokers of modern day cricket... having said that boucher or morkel should have been sent ahead of dumminy...
Anonymous User6/24/2009 5:51 AM
Proteas are Chokers, end of discussion!!!!!!
Nathan6/24/2009 5:13 AM
hahaha ... that's funny stuff. I'm sure if you repeat it to yourself often enough you may eventually believe it, but to the rest of the cricketing world, one thing is clear - the best way to win in a high pressure situation is to be playing against South Africa. SA don't choke though ... they continually get outplayed and often fall to pieces when they should win in a pressure situation ... but it's not choking hahaha. Turner, you are in major denial mate but thanks for the laughs, you're also hilarious.
Anonymous User6/24/2009 3:47 AM
Arthur Turner......if we were the best team....why no major trophies..stop writing c****p......chocked we were becos you b**m underestimated the paki power......add more colour and get youngsters from the franchise and we would have won. Big 5 got 2 much money they must go......CHOKERS
Basil6/24/2009 3:39 AM
What were the proteas planning on doing with the 5 wickets in the bank ? Carry them over to another tournament ? Does anybody realise how ridiculous and embarrassing we look when we celebrate Australian losses with more energy than we celebrate SA victories ? We have a team that put in a whole lot more effort to receive the same reward as Australia---nothing. And what's more, Australia were drawn in a group that contained no minnows. I didn't hear any protea fans complaining about having to play Scotland to qualify for the Super 8. I've read a few comments here about dry ptich conditions---I didn't hear any complaints when the proteas blasted 438 runs off a sorry pitch on home turf. Chokers ? No. Losers.
Nic6/24/2009 12:56 AM
Yip we are chokers...and here is why... South Africans, whether black, white, pink or turquois have a history of struggle. Whether it was the great trek for the boers, apartheid for the non-whites or many other examples, we have had struggle in our past. Perhaps for this reason we like the struggle on the field too. With the exception of the Springboks who seem to be learning this lesson (although not mastered yet), all our other sporting codes have this amazing ability to get themselves from being favourites to a place where we are the underdogs. Because of our “struggle” inclined nature we always seem to cough up the proverbial ball when it matters most. It’s almost as if we lose the plot when we are favourites. Look at the Proteas in Oz, we win the test series, come home and only start playing in the 3rd test when we have already lost the series. This happens because we psychologically have removed the struggle (because there is no struggle if you are the favourite, no insurmountable odds to overcome. When you are the favourite you are just supposed to win...without a struggle). Because this goes against our very identity (identifying with struggle) we revert back to the struggle...the quickest way to do this in sports is by becoming the underdog again. (Bulls super 14 campaign of 2008 is another classic example...win it the previous year and bomb the next, in fact the Sharks losing it in 2007 is another good example...they were the favourites and they were winning) Arthur in my opinion you are missing the glaring truth which was that you could see that the Proteas were going to lose...from ball 1...yes we hoped that they were going to turn it around but deep down we knew they were going to lose...their body language showed it...you could see something was missing. Was the Paki team great on the day? No, they were average, Afridi was good, but not brilliant, we self destructed and like you quite rightly stated...we only lost by 7 runs...That should be an indication of how good we really are... We choked and we will continue to choke until we sort out our mindset... In all sports there is intensity that one can sense when a sportsman or team is on song...that tangible feeling was nowhere to be seen during that semi final...because we choked
Steyn6/23/2009 11:44 PM
We can not keep on calling the Proteas a lot of chokers. Pakistan was brilliant on the day. They beat Sri Lanka with brilliant bowling and with Mr Afridi of course. Let us support the Proteas for the ICC tournament later the year. Stop the moaning and the choking stories it is old news now!
DPH6/23/2009 11:23 PM
The difference wasn't really the batting, although I expected a lot more from AB de Villiers in the semi - final. The difference was that the usually miserly Johan Botha chose to bowl an atrocious over, at a very inopportune time. The four successive boundaries that he conceded in that over should never have been given away by a bowler of his calibre. Quite frankly, he panicked, or is that choked?
John6/23/2009 11:23 PM
My goodness, is this the same cricketing public who "hailed their team" after the amazing performances in OZ , ENG & IND ? Get real people, this Proteas team is great !, so they lost ONE match, (yes it was important) they all are really, but this same team is going to bring a cupboard full off silverware to SA in the next 5-10 years, trust me. Start being real FANS not just ARMCHAIR critics for a change and stop sniping at the players ! Pakistan played amazing well and there can only be one winner they did the same to Sri Lanka remember Twenty20 is like that, Unpredictable - that is why it is popular This article is well written and researched, ie the comment about ENG ! imagine having to support them ?? Well played Proteas, I for one am really looking forward to seeing you doing what you do best, dominating the cricket world ! Yottiejohn
aj6/23/2009 11:00 PM
Only 1 batsman in the top 4 got a score over ten in a pressure situation. No thats not choking...
Anonymous User6/23/2009 9:44 PM
*cough cough* CHOKERS!!
Anonymous User6/23/2009 9:09 PM
whateva!!! a choker stays a choker....hahahahahahahahaha!!!!Lets be official about it....Let design a CHOKER trophy....at least they will have sumting in the cupboard
Anonymous User6/23/2009 6:41 PM
CHOKERS !!!
JustGreg6/23/2009 6:24 PM
They are chokers, just deal with the fact. They have no big match temprament!!!
Anonymous User6/23/2009 5:40 PM
Well if we didn't choke that must mean that we will never be able to win any trophy, because this is one of the better side that we had in a long time. Comparing us to the rest of the world, on paper, shows that we are the better team. I guess that is where it will stay..... on paper. Maybe you could draw them a trophy.
Greg6/23/2009 5:05 PM
The team does not have BMT - call it what you like - choker is a label and it will do for now.... until something significant is won
MG6/23/2009 4:43 PM
Choked! They only ever lose the important matches. We need a World cup of some sorts. They can't even get into the final. They always collapse during the important game. Kallis is a good anchor but as you said, not worth much in the power play. If Smith goes early, the whole team collapses after him. Choking is not winning an important game. They will remain chokers until they win a world cup, either T20 or One day.
JOW6/23/2009 4:15 PM
we have not won anything worth mentioning with the old blokes like boucher,kallis and gibbs in the team.time to bring youngsters in for the shorter formatsof the game.
Russ6/23/2009 4:13 PM
They choked - end of story. Maybe I am more comfortable to think of them as chokers, because the alternative is too hard for me to bear thinking about - that they (Arthur and Smith) are inept and incompetent for their positions. Why? 1. Their strategy did not vary - one dimensional perhaps? 2. The entire world wondered why Albie came in so late - btw, the rest of the world were right, SA got it wrong. 3. They prodded and pushed with wickets in hand - did they plan to attack the best bowler/most economical bowler and think they could get 15 per over off him? Umar Gul was TARGETTED???? 4. I define choking as 'deer in the headlights' - can't think, can't react, scared to take a risk, failure looming and can't stop it from happening. And some people still think they didn't choke??? 5. When 'Put-sonder-water' and 'Timbukhtu' plays cricket and do the above, they don't choke, they play as expected. When the best team in the world (and they definitely are) play like that, it's called CHOKING, Arthur!! And yes, because i am an ardent Protea supporter, it REALLY ticks me off when it happens. And I won't stop supporting them. ps. maybe they should replace the Protea with a new flower, "Choquaras Horribalis" (latin for Horrible Chokers)......... :)
Russ6/23/2009 4:05 PM
They choked - end of story. Maybe I am more comfortable to think of them as chokers, because the alternative is too hard for me to bear thinking about - that they (Arthur and Smith) are inept and incompetent for their positions. Why? 1. Their strategy did not vary - one dimensional perhaps? 2. The entire world wondered why Albie came in so late - btw, the rest of the world were right, SA got it wrong. 3. They prodded and pushed with wickets in hand - did they plan to attack the best bowler/most economical bowler and think they could get 15 per over off him? Umar Gul was TARGETTED???? 4. I define choking as 'deer in the headlights' - can't think, can't react, scared to take a risk, failure looming and can't stop it from happening. And some people still think they didn't choke??? 5. When 'Put-sonder-water' and 'Timbukhtu' plays cricket and do the above, they don't choke, they play as expected. When the best team in the world (and they definitely are) play like that, it's called CHOKING, Arthur!! And yes, because i am an ardent Protea supporter, it REALLY ticks me off when it happens. And I won't stop supporting them. ps. maybe they should replace the Protea with a new flower, "Choquaras Horribalis" (latin for Horrible Chokers)......... :)
Anonymous User6/23/2009 3:59 PM
Arthur, you don`t know much about cricket. They are chokers, and that will not change until you get a captain that wants to win at all cost. Smith is an idiot.
Pat Vancouver6/23/2009 3:47 PM
"Team Trachiotomy"
Anonymous User6/23/2009 3:43 PM
DIE GROOT VERSKIL HOEKOM ONS CHOKERS IS EN NIE AUSTRALIE NIE, IS DAT AUSTRALIE AL HOPE GROOT TOERNOOIE GEWEN HET. ONS SAL PAKISTAN 9 UIT DIE 10 KERE WEN AS ONS TEEN MEKAAR SPEEL, RAAI WATTER EEN SAL ONS VERLOOR EN HET ONS VERLOOR? NATUURLIK DIE EEN WAT SAAK MAAK NL DIE SEMI FINAL. AS DIE PROTEAS NIE CHOKERS IS NIE, HET HULLE GEEN BIG MATCH TEMPERAMENT "BMT" NIE. WAT IS DIE VERSKIL??
Skip6/23/2009 3:43 PM
I sadly watched the game and as time progressed and dear old Kallis and Duminy pushing for singles, my heart started sinking... I believe its a combination of SA not PLAYING T20 cricket and really BAD Pitch managment!! Both semifinal pitches was suited to the Pak/Sri Lnk teams. We never stood a good chance of winning with pitches prepared for spinner (SA's achilles heel). That said, we could easliy have put up a better fight, we looked like (whiped dogs) we wanted to just play normal sensible relaxed cricket - (which isn't T20 cricket style btw). Thanks for blocking and running singles guys, just to bad your realised in the Freekn last over that we needed sixes and fours!! IDiots!
Sam6/23/2009 3:39 PM
I'm the hugest SA fan and i'll support them through anything. But we need to accept that our team faulters on the big stage when it matters. This is clearly shown through most of the ICC tournements. There hasn't been a time when SA have been totally blown out of a tournement, except when we went out in the 1st round on home soil in 2003, and even then it was due to a miscalculation of the D/L method. It usually happens in the knock out phase. When a strong team like ours smashes everyone in sight then have a bad game when it counts, unfortunately that is "choking" under the pressure. The only time i can say that they played worthy of a team deserving to be in a WC final was in 1992. That was true robbery, but thats how it goes. Good luck in the Champions Trophy, we dearly need to win some sort of competition and it needs to be soon.
Anonymous User6/23/2009 3:36 PM
The team who were favourites AND are supposed to be number 1 or 2 in the world won every game except for the semis - I call that "Chokers"
Anonymous User6/23/2009 3:35 PM
The team who were favourites AND are supposed to be number 1 or 2 in the world won every game except for the semis - I call that "Chokers"
Anonymous User6/23/2009 3:17 PM
They're not chokers, only pathetic !!!!
MM6/23/2009 3:14 PM
Smith and Micky Arther are one dimensional. The formula worked leading up to the semi's. But make changes and assess how the game is going...Albie Morkel/Roelof VDM should have been sent in after AB as a pinch hitter...have to agree with Kepler, Albie needed to come in near the 12 over mark. I want to see Johan Botha, as T20 captain.
liz6/23/2009 3:12 PM
Such a pity when your country only supports winners and insults and critizers losers. To expect players of any sport to win all the time is blowing in the wind. Come on chaps, support the game and don't moan and moan and moan and moan when a team losers!!!
AJ6/23/2009 2:58 PM
i think that in the semifinal SA choked when they were in the field n i watched the whole world cup n never saw them miss fielding but we saw that when smith miss fielded n AB miss fielded. The other important point is that Pakistan batting in this tournment has been the best against the spinners n u can judge that by looking at the figures of ajantha mendis in his 8 overs bowled against pakistan in this world cup n he failed to pick up a wicket n conceded alot of runs so the SA spinners were negated by superb Pakistan batting. Now if u have to judge the SA batting line up u have to look at the bowling attack of Pakistan. 3 of their bowlers were in the top 5 wiz umar gul n saeed ajmal leading the way n afridi following n they had the best bowling attack. it showed in the SA batting with afridi n saeed ajmal squeezing the proteas n afridi bowling a beauty to bowl Gibbs n got an egde of Ab wiz a beauty of a leg spinner which was dropped before bowling him out. I think a target of 150 was always going to be very difficult for the proteas against the PAK bowling line up n it proved so n one Fawad alam over brought them in the game but they had lost the match well before the last over. They were out played by unstopable Pakistan who out played every team since beating the kiwis n even the Final was one sided game as Pakistan cruised along against a so called superb bowling line up of Srilanka. SA yes did not field well under pressure but they were out played by Pakistan n with the kind of form Pakistan displayed SA choking or not they still would have lost the match.
DirkM6/23/2009 2:43 PM
Chokers!
OzHorse6/23/2009 2:33 PM
First of all, the game wasn't close. 16 runs off the last over and that Younus brain-fallout where he bowled that left arm spinner for the first time in the tournament made the result look a lot closer than it was. That game was lost after 13 overs because SA didn't back themselves. They took the "safe" option by sending in Duminy and that was the decision that cost them the game. You had Kallis going ok at one end - you needed to take risks and be prepared to lose wickets by sending in Morkel, Boucher and Van der Merve to ensure that you only needed something like 7 or 8 an over for the last 6. To have all that fire-power at your disposal and not be pro-active and confident enough to use it..there's an element of choking in that.
OzHorse6/23/2009 2:28 PM
First of all, the game wasn't close. 16 runs off the last over and that Younus brain-fallout where he bowled that left arm spinner for the first time in the tournament made the result look a lot closer than it was. That game was lost after 13 overs because SA didn't back themselves. They took the "safe" option by sending in Duminy and that was the decision that cost them the game. You had Kallis going ok at one end - you needed to take risks and be prepared to lose wickets by sending in Morkel, Boucher and Van der Merve to ensure that you only needed something like 7 or 8 an over for the last 6. To have all that fire-power at your disposal and not be pro-active and confident enough to use it..there's an element of choking in that.
Stephen Protea supporter6/23/2009 2:07 PM
@Costa - Brilliant post. Now I know there are at least some people out there that can think
Anonymous User6/23/2009 2:06 PM
Why is nothing said about firing these big fat losers? Nothing is said about leaving the same players on the bench for the whole tournament except for the one useless whitey. Why not? Because they're quotas? Sickening!
Just6/23/2009 2:03 PM
To the morons that say we didn't choke: Our performance on the day was the worst of the tournament and was caused by the pressure of the occassion. Our usually brilliant fielding was pi$$ poor at times, and we lacked urgency in the middle of our batting innings. Sure everyone has a bad day at the office, and yes Pakistan played their best game of the tournament. But the bottom line is that we should have won. We CHOKED.
Anonymous User6/23/2009 2:02 PM
Arthur, if you think they did not choke then you do not have a clue about 20 over cricket! It was obvious that they were going to lose from over 11 onwards - they just treated us to a slow death!!!! You obviously take drastic steps when you find yourself in that position - Smith took none! Just crept on to a predictable end as before when under pressure!
Anonymous User6/23/2009 1:38 PM
There were two fundemental problems with the Proteas the whole tournament. They never got Albie further up in the innings and like you say maximizing the power plays and it ended up costing them the tournament. I agree they are not chokers. They gave us a lot of joy and I would put money on them beating that Pakistan side 4 out of 5 games.
Costa6/23/2009 1:27 PM
The people on this blog are really really dim. Yes we lost, but come on people. Did you not see Australia get knocked out? was that choking? Gayle smashed Brett Lee, so was that Gayle playing well or Brett Lee choking? Come on, its a twenty over game. Even England lost to Netherlands........ Add an extra 30 overs per side, and suddenly Australia have not lost a world cup game in that format for years...... An come on people, teams drop catches. that is how sport goes. So if someone drops a catch in the early games its rustiness but if it happens in the semis or finals its choking. In certain rugby finals, the tries dry up. Is that choking too? It really is sad that they still allow dim people internet access. In 50 over cricket it might be choking as there are 300 balls to plan your game play. But 20 overs is fast and goes past before you know it.
Anonymous User6/23/2009 1:14 PM
Agreed, same old story. Been following SA cricket for the last 15 years, seeing the same thing happen time and time again: Loosing when it matters. I dont see the value of being the worlds no 1 if we have not won any important games, like finals of tournaments. Prehaps the system determining how a team is ranked should be addressed? Unfortunatley I feel that the team gets a big head after every win, thus thinking they can never loose, but loose anyway because of the overconfidence and underestimation of the next team they play. There is no point winning 9 out of 10 matches when the 1 they loose is a final or semi-final.
Joe6/23/2009 1:14 PM
They stumbled when it mattered most! And the man who scratched and struggled while batting were probably the most experienced viz. Graeme"Choker' Smith and Herchelle ' Dagga Gibbs
Marcus6/23/2009 1:04 PM
SA did well to get where they did, and they did everything but choke. On the day the better team won. If we had choked then the result would have been far worse. The team is strong and I don't blame them for loosing to a Pakistan team that seemed to get stronger as the tournament progressed. Onwards and upwards ... Hopefully we have the next one in the bag!!!
Anonymous User6/23/2009 12:49 PM
The enjoyment of any sport doesn't require your team to win. Why can't we just enjoy the fact that we were privileged to see a couple of spectacular games. Yes, we lost but it was a brilliant tournament. I love the Proteas and will continue to support them, but above all, I love cricket! And YES Pakistan played cricket as it should be played. The Proteas did not choke (I would love to see some of you take a position in the team!), they were beaten by a brilliant team.
D.T.M.6/23/2009 12:48 PM
Oh please!!! They choked!!! How can you loose a game by 7 runs with 5 wickets in hand??? These players are too concerned about there individual performance/scores and don't give a rats ass about the team, or the supporters. Also Arthur, please explain why there are no major competitions silverware in the Proteas trophy cabinet if they are not chokers? The closest they have come lifting the trophy has been Semi Final. If you don't have something logical and realistic to write about, you should rather not write at all. They Choked and that is that!!! Give the most successful domestic coach a chance with the Proteas. Corrie van Zyl is the most successful coach this country have ever seen. If you don't have the best people to do a job, don't cry if the work is not done properly / successfully. It is not acceptable to loose and it is usually the under achievers that want everyone to believe this. We need to get back on the bus and play to win, with the right players and coach. We need to stop making excuses for poor performances. Chokers!!!
Stephen Protea supporter6/23/2009 12:30 PM
Sigh. I see Call Centres are allowing internet access. Please read a dictionary (you know a book) and see definitions of the word "Choke" and "Sport". Plus look at previous games and see the trend of 20/20 games on dry pitches. And in actual fact Proteas have won an ICC tournament where all nations were playing. Go Proteas
Sandelk6/23/2009 12:25 PM
Arthur - they choked. Had they maintained level heads they would've started hitting out with 5 overs t ogo - instead they left it too late and we were left with too much to do in the end. Yes, there was a lot of good bowling, but you need to expect that in a chase and in a knock-out game you need to keep up with thr asking rate - especially with wickets in hand.
Garth6/23/2009 12:16 PM
Arthur, I agree with you entirely. I was seriously bleak after the game but can't feel I can blame the Proteas for choking. Sure, they were not on top form in the semi but who can play consistently brilliantly in a game like T20 cricket? It has been said before but it's true: one person's brilliance (Afridi, in this case) can turn a T20 game. I just wish that some of the other readers would cut our sportsmen some slack and stop hurling abuse at them...
Leon6/23/2009 12:15 PM
Come on people! You all are going on like a bunch of spoilt kids. The Proteas lost, it happens. Pakistan WAS the better team that day and they repeated it in the final. Can you not give Pakistan their dues? They played better THAT day.
Spot On6/23/2009 12:14 PM
Old Fat Captain Smiff and his boys choked, no matter which way you slice it. Why can't you just admit it?
Punani6/23/2009 12:07 PM
I view choking as 'losing a match you should have won'. Form suggested SA should have won. Granted, good batting by Afridi and good bowling by Gul at the end. However, Pakistan were pretty ordinary otherwise. Chasing 7.5 runs per over with ten wickets in hand on a flat deck is hardly a big ask in a 20/twenty game. Batting like frightened kittens in the first 17 overs and leaving an asking rate of 13 per over at the end was asking for trouble. Rather get bowled out than come up seven runs short with 5 wickets in hand. Simply pathetic! Big Arthur, did we watch the same game?
Anonymous User6/23/2009 12:01 PM
I just don't get it. I LOVED watching the cricket, I have ALWAYS being a cricket supporter - but it is even getting too much for me. Winning the matches that don't count (as much) and losing the ones that do. How many more times must I furiously support the SA cricketers only to have them lose when they really need to win. I hate to say this, but I smell match fixing.
Adams6/23/2009 12:00 PM
Most of this crowd just give credence to the sterotypical saffa sport supporter, crticising our team with thinking, perhaps they just outplayed us ! We we beaten in one 20/20 game of the 5 we played in the tournament. The nature of the short game is that results are going to be up and done , Afridi showed why, because 1 player can win the game. Yes smith and Kallis , even Boucher these days should skip a meal, but thats not why we lost and is completely missing the point, but should be addressed by coaching staff. We are the number 1 side in ODI cricket due to continued success, one 20/20 loss doesnt change that.
Anonymous User6/23/2009 12:00 PM
I just don't get it. I LOVED watching the cricket, I have ALWAYS being a cricket supporter - but it is even getting too much for me. Winning the matches that don't count (as much) and losing the ones that do. How many more times must I furiously support the SA cricketers only to have them lose when they really need to win. I hate to say this, but I smell match fixing.
Anonymous User6/23/2009 11:51 AM
Ridiculous rubbish and Fattishly rotund are the words to describe the Proteas team.
AJ6/23/2009 11:50 AM
Arthur our approach to the game was ill informed, we did not take into account some of the well publicised qualities of the Pakistani team and our measurements in the run chase were lacking. If we did not choke, then we wer indaequately prepared or we over analysed it and paralysed ourselves. Either way, it was not an acceptable performance and will always be a game we should have won.
Zulu6/23/2009 11:44 AM
@Kosie... my sentiments exactly... like Chris Gayle facing 9 balls with out getting a run.... choking, no way, match fixing, call it as it lays.....
Anonymous User6/23/2009 11:41 AM
choke or not, they didn't play to their full potential. something is definitely wrong there; bookies, chokies, who knows!
Anonymous User6/23/2009 11:36 AM
The arrogance of certain South Africans is shocking, I wonder what these people do, thanks Arthur Turner for a sensable, well thought out article. Just ignore some of the comments by some morons here. All they know is critisize and promote hate speech!
Frank6/23/2009 11:35 AM
Arthur it might be a bit ritch from England but at least they've played in finals. Let's quickly add all our WC finals... uhhm NIL. Smit is so over weight he let an easy fielding ball go under his hands for four, Botha & De Villiers misfielded (something that never happend until that match). Botha overdid his "fast one" and got punished yet the captain and the senior players did not chage their strategy. That all is, for me at least, a sign that they can't perform under pressure. Pakistan on the other hand had to fight for survival from about the second match and yet managed to win the trophy. That's BMT which our cricketers lack. I'd rather loose a few matches that doesn't mean much and win those that count than the other way around. Having said all of this though I still feel our batting let us down during the whole tourney with no significant scores but one against Scotland.
Marcel6/23/2009 11:32 AM
Yeah we don't choke, we just keep losing the knockout games in tournaments when we're in positions to win them. Look I hear what you saying, but we've got a better team than them don't we? Yet their players played better than our guys. It happens in sport, for sure, just it seems to happen to our cricketers way too often in these tournaments.
Joe...@..Phillip6/23/2009 11:32 AM
Whahahahaha,sniff...whooo,, that's funny Phillip! I wonder which ass he was planning on kissing! If we analyse the game itself, the CHOKING was evident if we look at how Duminy succumbed to the pressure, and his facial expressions gave it away that he cr@pped himself and chokked.
Anonymous User6/23/2009 11:26 AM
How can I put this politely. The Proteas CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED CHOKED
terry6/23/2009 11:25 AM
I do believe that we will win an icc global trophy soon but i think the chokers tag is valid when it comes to these events , we lost the game to pakistan because once again the guys didn't pay attention to the massive scoreboard notifiying everyone at the ground what the neccessary runs to balls required was . In the middle of the innings when the requirement was around 9-10 runs an over we sat on our hands again relying on big hitting in the last few overs to get us there when we know how well guys have been bowling at the death overs . We lacked creativity to deal with the good bowling and protected wickets when we should have protected the run rate, we had wickets in hand and the batting line-up to follow . Kallis who did bat very well through out the tornement should have told Duminy to hit or get out , i mean ... we weren't even picking up 2's not to mention the 35 balls without a boundry (not acceptable in 20/20). Credit to Pakistan as they all pulled around the player who was on form and out played us . Next time pay attention to the maths and be positive, making it your job to ease the pressure on the batsmen to follow and not pile more pressure on .Whether they like it or not they have been labelled (it will come up in future on field banter) and its up to the Protea's to lose the chokers tag!
Joe6/23/2009 11:24 AM
Arthur I disagree......Unfortunately they have earned the title chokers. For failing when it most counts. Pakistan were greater when it counted! And history repeated itself!!
Raymond Hocknell6/23/2009 11:23 AM
Yes, well said, I couldn't agree more. In fact your comment about the West Indies is spot on. Choking is what happens when you suddenly realise you aren't good enough and the moment becomes too big. That is in direct contrast to what happened to the Proteas, and indeed Sri Lanka in the final. Go Proteas, we still support you, please ignore the "supporters" that say otherwise.
MR Joller Bulge6/23/2009 11:17 AM
When you look at Arthur I am now certain that he's the agent for the front row of Smith/Bouch and Jake!!!!!!!!! Look's like they been doing some late night feasting!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wobble wobble...hey jakes get us another steak and kidney and a double thick..oh and a caramel desert..and another boerie roll..thanks ouens!!!!!!
KW6/23/2009 11:17 AM
I fully agree with you Arthur. Anybody who says South Africa choked either didn't watch the game, don't know anything about cricket, or are just jumping on the bandwagon. I think criticising Kallis for not "dominating the power play overs" is a little harsh though. It was more during the middle overs that we actually lost it. Well done Proteas on a good performance throughout the tournament! A big trophy will come.
Mr Pieface6/23/2009 11:14 AM
No they did choke, Smith/Bouch & Jake ate all the pies and choked it all over AB and the entire middle order......I never realised that having a bop was a pre-req for cricket...always thought weight was good for tight five...ya ou boet dis die vaste drie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!May I have a pepper & steak asseblief..make that 5 please!!!!!!!!!!
Jacques6/23/2009 11:09 AM
Arthur, you are clueless. Smith, Gibbs and De Villiers once again threw away their wickets, the same as they did in all the other games where it counted. They were not beaten, they choked - go and look at how they lost their wickets in other big games.
Craig6/23/2009 11:07 AM
How many times must i still hear that arthur and smith build a team that can win anything. i hear that the bourbon makers in tennesee is launching a new bourbon to compliment jack daniels. and they dedicate it to the proteas winning, they call it Jack Sh!t
Philip6/23/2009 11:07 AM
Mr or should I call you Mrs Turner........don't you think you have enough lipstick on in your photo? SA choked and that is it, so do not try to cover that up as well.
Fandash6/23/2009 11:05 AM
Arthur, Arthur. If they are not chokers what are they? Their fielding was below par on the day, big match pressure getting to them. The batting line up was mystifying to say the least. A dynamic management team would have shuffled the batting to meet the challenge. I just knew that you would pen some drivel again to justify your article on SA being the winners before the tournament even started. Arthur you are a fence sitter and will always find something to justify your load of drivel you pen. I suggest you concentrate on tiddlywinks at Putsonderwater on weekends.
Gavin6/23/2009 11:02 AM
Chokers or not, it was a poor run chase. Too many hittable balls were missed and when we saw how well Pakistan had been bowling we should have looked for more singles. We were only 7 runs short in the end!
stephen6/23/2009 11:00 AM
well now, you would say that wouldn't you!! by the way, the photo on this blog - is that of you or is it a photo of Kallis?? looks like you both enjoy a few too many pies and boerie rolls. and there is a lot south africa could have done - like use the services of a conditioning coach to get our tubbies into shape.. then they would be able to run 2's instead of 1's and actually stop a few balls in the field. so never mind Smiths elbow injury - I think its his fat waist line that was a "contributing factor to this problem". a great team is one that goes on to win the great tournaments, anything less is just making up the numbers.
Anonymous User6/23/2009 10:57 AM
ok then explain to me why the proteas always seem to do this when they smell silverware..?? AND are entirely and outright favourites. They haven't won any silverware in a competition for how long, dont you think it would've done the team and country good to bring a trophy home for once..??
Kosie6/23/2009 10:56 AM
Yes, I also don’t think they choked! But they did get a big injection in their bank accounts.... Hansie slim...
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